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 Traders Kopitiam! V7

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Boon3
post Apr 26 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Apr 25 2015, 10:23 PM)
boring ngm boring ah u ... everyday also same stock.... any other kangtao bo boon gor? lol
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So what stock you wanna talk?

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post Apr 26 2015, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 26 2015, 10:10 AM)
Tht quarter the perf was such a dissapoinment. But it doesnt matter as its already priced in even before announcement was made as evident by the -13% dip before announcement. Once u entered during this period look at how much u would made after a month, whooping 22% gain...
Even if u entered before correction u still make a 6% gain after a month of the announcement made.

My point is at current situation market already expect the worst possible performance, as evident with the -8% correction, even if it did perform badly come nextwednesday/tuesday, price are gonna still moved upwards....
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Eh?

Are we looking at the same data?

Homer started the year at 86 sen.

Stock ran all the way up on the back of new shareholders changes + the fact it was heavily recommended on some so-called investment forums+blogs+facebook etc (lol .. the power of promotings!) + not forgetting the announcement of the EXACTl ex-date of the 3.1 sen dividend (another bafffler .... lol....)

Stock was bubbly all the way till the day it made the announcement on 29th Jan (sorry not Feb .. brains not functioning well atm)

stock did a dramatic u-turn on 29th Jan midday.
I still recall...
lol...
how the buy bids disappeared...... siddenly.
stock retraced back to 96/97 region....

for me?
it appeared the market got it all wrong...
it ANTICIPATED profit growth (on the back of a very strong USD which should boost profit margins)....

profits disappointed...
but most important the company said the higher USD did damage to its material cost...
as high USD made their leather import (which used for their upholstery) more expensive....
that was a .......... rolleyes.gif
unexpected....

so company stock FELL due to poor profits...
and those who chased up (in ANTICIPATION of good profits) got their hands burnt.....

now come the interesting part....
after that correction....
stock did not fall anymore....
it stabilized at the 96/97 region...

why?

cos... imo.... Homer lost its profit growth...
but....
despite that...
Homer was cash flush...
and based on dividend yields...
at around 96/97....
the yields was still very much interesting.....

then for me....
in trading......
if the stock doesn't want to go down anymore...
it should probably go back up again....
lol.... and rallied again... it did. biggrin.gif

now?
different imo...
stock WAS in a tight trading range...

(I have no expertise in such trading...
cannot find any godam edge with such trading...
it's always a 50-50 game...
stock could always break down as much as it could break up)

AND....
the past few days...
stock broke DOWN ....
on the back of a higher than average trading volume...

for me....
atm.....
this signals weakness....
the market does not ANTICIPATE any good news....

which brings the question for me...
does the insider know?
does the insider already know poorer results AGAIN from Homer?

no matter what....
I cannot get comfy with such trades....
I have no edge...

which means....
sitting on the corner ...
and playing with that lonely spider...
is the best option for me....
for there is no need for me to get every stock right at all times...

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post Apr 26 2015, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Apr 26 2015, 10:23 AM)
i have a few in my mind ... but fundamental wise sure sad sad 1 wor ....

i have a good fundamental stocks.. because i get to know a amoi staying over that area...

ENGTEX  icon_rolleyes.gif
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waaaaa...... ENGTEX ah?
not bad wor....

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post Apr 26 2015, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 26 2015, 10:49 AM)


(I have no expertise in such trading...
cannot find any godam edge with such trading...
it's always a 50-50 game...
stock could always break down as much as it could break up)

ps/

if it breaks out of the range.....
ie break UP ....
I obviously might consider chasing the stock up....

which brings me the issue...
since it now breaks down ...
instead of breaking up....
why should I chase the stock down?


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post Apr 26 2015, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Apr 26 2015, 11:10 AM)
Same data but different methodolgy and analogy perspective. Anyway ur point noted.

This counter always seem to dissapoint during its qtr performance report
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No problems...
I am not an active trader...
Hence my preferences and risks tolerance would vary greatly.....


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post Apr 26 2015, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(kueyteowlou @ Apr 26 2015, 11:04 AM)
biggrin.gif i will polish this gem into beautiful beautiful .... see how it goes....
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Polish ?

New profession mehhhhhhh?

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post Apr 26 2015, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 25 2015, 11:30 AM)
good day boon, any stocks to talk 3 talk 4 lately? how about FIAMMA HOLDINGS BHD 6939?

same case as homeritz. do you think so?
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err.... ya... same as Homer... weakness seen in recent couple quarterlies.... sweat.gif
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post Apr 29 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 29 2015, 12:21 PM)
Bila mau back to 25 sen..  laugh.gif

I waiting with dump truck ready...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Where is the rotan???

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Lol
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post May 6 2015, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ Apr 30 2015, 09:18 AM)
lai lai everyone chase homeritz up please ehhehee
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Happy now?

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post May 19 2015, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ May 12 2015, 09:18 AM)
so boring here.....any tipsy??? hehehee
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post May 20 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 19 2015, 11:58 PM)
your homer fatt tatt liao la
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You think got Happy Family soon?


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post May 21 2015, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(jerrychoo2004 @ May 21 2015, 03:09 PM)
i not yet sell wor....is it a good time or there is still room to run?

seems like market got a little bit bloodshed now
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post May 23 2015, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(SimonLee92 @ May 23 2015, 04:59 PM)
Hi everyone. I am an undergraduate student from Universiti Malaysia Sarawak. I am currently writing my undergraduate thesis which titled "Is colour affecting stock investment decision?". Can you please spend few minutes to provide your feedbacks in my survey? Many thanks.

URL: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/18IJn8jpi8Z...jML6n4/viewform

I believe there are various factors which lead to the final decisions such as market conditions, news and so on. And since less researches have been conducted in this area, I would like to test the indicator - colour. Your feedbacks are highly valuable to my research. Thanks for spending your time. smile.gif
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Dude, you want a blunt answer?


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post May 30 2015, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 29 2015, 07:14 PM)
If u free go see their cash flow baru u know what is strong bait.
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.... and what is your risk assessment of this company at this moment?
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post May 30 2015, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 30 2015, 09:18 AM)
property sector remain unclear at the moment especially after the implication of GTS.
And 1 thing to note is this counter has a low liquidity.So to those who interested, make sure u have the holding power.
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..... is that all meh?


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post May 30 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 30 2015, 09:21 AM)
I just a newbie mah. Need sifu to teach me. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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..... newbie for life ah?







so where is the company's main property growth?
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post May 30 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 30 2015, 09:28 AM)
At Goodview Heights, Bandar Sungai Long South and Rawang Corporate Industrial Park, Sungai Choh.
So the answer is at Selangor? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
me is once newbie, forever newbie. icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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that question needs to be asked cos this phenomenal growth for SHL did not just started....
it already happened few years back...

so we need to assess if such high growth rate is sustainable or not.

so Sungai Long and Sungai Choh HAD been the company goldmine yes?
when did this boom in these two areas first started?

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post May 30 2015, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 30 2015, 09:51 AM)
I think nth can sustain forever. but how far can it go, I sincerely donno.
Normally I pick stock I preferred to go by history. continuously increase in earning and dividend.
For the future, I just let the company go by itself.
Maybe someone will question me good company will turn bad in the future but I can say good company wont become bad in overnight.
It need a period of time and it will also show signal in its cash flow and also earning. So far this method is working for me but I donno for others.  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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yeah... sticking to what works for you.... is important. thumbup.gif


The key to the question is to look at the track record.

the table is out there... in the net. tongue.gif

if you look you will see SHL terror geng growth first started in fy 2013....

where profits jumped from 18 mil to 34 mil.

this is when you would want to look into this company.

looking at it fy 2013 Q4 report in May 2013.... what do you see in the company's notes?

Sungai Long and Sungai Choh....

same two area..... which is also the main profit contributor for current fy profits....
meaning to say we have 3 EXTREMELY good profits driven by these 2 projects....

where profit went from 34 mil to an incredible 104 million now.

so how more can the growth last from these 2 areas?

then.... compare the stock price....

end May 2013 ... stock price how muchie?
end May 2015.... stock price how muchie?












( of course there are other issues/factors to consider also )


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post May 30 2015, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(wenqing @ May 30 2015, 10:28 AM)
So I am too late for the party?? cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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well... that's basically your risk. tongue.gif


of course, unless if you know that SHL have other golden rivers such as Sungai Long and Sungai Choh ....
and that SHL can replicate same success ......
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post May 30 2015, 10:44 AM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ May 30 2015, 10:39 AM)
this comment.. i can only see silver lining leh

any tipsy lately?
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