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jenova
post Sep 8 2023, 07:02 PM

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Hi Sifu-sifu..Would like to ask ya...the location is KL (Under DBKL).

When we do reno, can we increase the floor ceiling height? Because old designs always come with low ceilings...if currently the 2sty house (end-lot) per floor ceiling is about 8ft only... Can i change it to 10ft or 12ft high ceiling per floor when do reno?

Besides, can rebuild to become 3sty? What is the requirement to do this?

Thanks Sifu-Sifu~

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jenova
post Sep 9 2023, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(ArchId @ Sep 8 2023, 08:51 PM)
good day mate.

answer

1) The ground and 1st floor must follow standard height according to the original development.. must follow the rest of your neighbor standard unit height
2) The new floor ( 2nd floor or 3storey ) can adjust to a maximum 3500mm height -2nd floor slab to top of roof beam level ......
3) Total height must not exceed 12 meter from ground floor level up to highest pitch roof level.... (must inlcude top of roof level)
4) Requirements- need to prepare drawings to the following department and get approval
a) approval plan building control department  (JKB)
b) approval plan town planning department (JPRB)
c) approval plan engineering department

hope this answer your question

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Many thanks for your help Sifu!!

Sad then... Still thinking to remove the front part of 1st level and make a high living room style.

If follow old structure (same ceiling height with neighbor), then this idea not doable T.T

Or have any solution to have this kind of design? Abit like a duplex or loft design

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jenova
post Sep 11 2023, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(Phyarc @ Sep 10 2023, 01:32 AM)
I've done it for 1st floor front (higher than existing/neighbour) but never tried ground floor.
Ìf house at DBKL, >10 years, end lot and rebuilding front with extension, you should have a fair chance.
Duplex or loft is doable but you lose plenty of space unless you don't mind or your lot is big/long.
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Noted. Thanks Sifu!!!

Sorry one more question...how about if hacking the floor? Because the house is built on a sloop, so inside the house, living room area and dining area is not flat, dinning area is on a higher level, about 5 staircases high (total i guess around 60cm+- high). The neighbor's house is like this as well.

So if i hack it to flat, is DBKL allows to do that? and any cons of doing that? Water leaking issue?

Thanks Sifu nod.gif

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post Sep 11 2023, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(ArchId @ Sep 8 2023, 08:51 PM)
good day mate.

answer

1) The ground and 1st floor must follow standard height according to the original development.. must follow the rest of your neighbor standard unit height
2) The new floor ( 2nd floor or 3storey ) can adjust to a maximum 3500mm height -2nd floor slab to top of roof beam level ......
3) Total height must not exceed 12 meter from ground floor level up to highest pitch roof level.... (must inlcude top of roof level)
4) Requirements- need to prepare drawings to the following department and get approval
a) approval plan building control department  (JKB)
b) approval plan town planning department (JPRB)
c) approval plan engineering department

hope this answer your question

cheers mate
Izwan
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Sorry one more question...how about if hacking the floor? Because the house is built on a sloop, so inside the house, living room area and dining area is not flat, dinning area is on a higher level, about 5 staircases high (total i guess around 60cm+- high). The neighbor house is like this as well.

So if i hack it to flat, DBKL allow to do that? and any cons of doing that? Water leaking issue?

Thanks Sifu
jenova
post Sep 13 2023, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Phyarc @ Sep 12 2023, 09:32 PM)
Subject to DBKL personnel. No, if they think too risky. Maybe yes, if submitted design/document satisfies them.
Without original foundation drawings, nobody knows what is below. Houses are not all built the same.
If you have intermediate ground beam (at middle of living room), then can you demolish that also?
Will the soil collapse during digging, rainy days or due to presence of running water etc.
Can the contractor's worker take care enough not to damage existing foundation while hacking.
Can you dig below existing structure, without destabilising.
Your adjoining neighbour worry also about your works.
All these are only something to think about.
You need to consult experienced engineer and/or contractor.
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I see. So it means if want to hack the dining area to become the same level as the living room area also (make the floor the same level flat) also possible not doable. sad news cry.gif

The sample like this image:
https://img.iproperty.com.my/my-iproperty/p..._1920x1080.jpeg

thinking to make it flat, so safer for kids and elder.



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post Sep 13 2023, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(Phyarc @ Sep 13 2023, 02:41 PM)
Unless someone can share precedent case, nobody can advise definite yes or no.
My opinion is, for your case to rebuilt living room with higher headroom is possible to get approval. Lowering existing ground slab to make same level throughout is also doable but need professional input due to complexity. Just highlighting the risks so you are prepared, not saying not doable.
If want to try, you can make the enquiry at DBKL or pay someone to submit application to know outcome.
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Okay, Thanks for the advice Sifu. smile.gif
jenova
post Oct 7 2023, 11:38 PM

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Good day Sifu-siu here, curious to know that if it's a Corner Lot house, can I relocate my front gate to side? Under Kuala Lumpur DBKL

Or I have to remain the existing gate, and have an additional gate on the side of the corner house.

Because the front gate is facing a shortcut route, so alot of car passing by everyday. 😁
jenova
post Oct 8 2023, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 8 2023, 06:34 AM)
Legal aside, do it for your safety and if it does not affect others plus no encroachment onto public land.
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Thanks for your suggestion. But more or less it will "touch" a little bit of the public land or road, because needs to build a new pavement/access road to link the side of the house for the new gate to the road. So i can park my car in the house
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post Oct 10 2023, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Oct 8 2023, 01:10 PM)
Small problem. If me, I will go ahead. But do it nicely.

For pavement, try to use pavers instead of just cement for long term. Cement will crack and edges will chipped off.

Tiles will be too obvious on 'encroachment' 😄
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Thanks for your suggestion! thumbup.gif

 

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