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post Feb 18 2015, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Feb 18 2015, 03:00 AM)
hi, do you guys face this problem like mine.
I recently bought far cry 4(uplay legit), and i play it on 900p high medium setting.
The frame rate are about 30-45. But the problem is the frame rate will drop 20+ for a few sec then when back up, this is very frustating when playing a game.
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Not a Acer user, but I think your GPU or CPU is throttling. Try disable your Intel Turbo Boost. and lower your settings. 860m can't play Far Cry 4 on medium high settings on 900p I believe. try 720p instead.
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post Feb 18 2015, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Feb 18 2015, 10:10 PM)
I did turn off turbo boost, its just the same.
what I noticed thought when the gpu hit 85c, the cpu will downclock and the gpu usage with drop then along the fps will drop. but my cpu temperature are just along 70-80. I think ill send it back to check. Not sure I get a flawed gpu termal pasre or fan.
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Just to let you know, Nitro fan kicks in a little late, you need to wait for it to spin sweat.gif
Also, I think by default they are using stock thermal paste, it sucks. So just ask them to use IC Diamond or any other good thermal paste.
Can you try on other game as well ? Cause so far what I know is, 860m is not suitable to play Far Cry 4 on mid high settings. This game is very demanding same like Crysis 3. Watch Dogs and AC is also another example, but mostly it is because ubisoft game is always not optimized sweat.gif
Try lowering your resolution to 720p.
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post Feb 18 2015, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Feb 18 2015, 11:23 PM)
erm, what do u mean wait for the fan to spin, I tried ply that game for like 2 hour just to test it, it just went to this same cycle,  gpu hit 85c, then usage drop -gpu temp then drop for abit-gpu temp rise to 85- then repeat the process. 
I tried 720p medium setting just now, it did not seem to be change. :-( I starting to worried that either my gpu fan something wrong or the gpu thermal paste problem. because the cpu temp are not so high 70-80.
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CPU temperature is lower than GPU is normal, as your game utilize GPU more than CPU. Nitro is using dual fan so they are using different heat pipe, so you can see two different temperature.
Mostly GPU will heat up to 70-80+ degree C when you're playing game, especially high demanding game like Far Cry 4, Crysis 3, BF4 etc etc.
I highly suspect your GPU is throttling. If playing other lower demanding game is still the same, mostly is hardware failure.
Did this happen on the previous driver version ? (before you update to latest nvidia driver)
Send it to the shop back for a 1on1 exchange (if is still within 1 week) or service center to have a check up
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post Feb 19 2015, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(iverice @ Feb 19 2015, 12:06 AM)
I tried older game just now on my  steam(dead space2),
the cpu and gpu ranging in a whopping 60-70+c, as I think like what u said that ds2is a much undemanding game. but I bought this laptop to ply latest game, but the gpu will throttle in those latest game. This is just sad.
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Well 860m is not high end GPU. It can play latest demanding game, but not in high resolution + high settings. COD AW is okay as it is 2014 game. Some 2014 and up coming 2015 game may not work well.
I think better send it back to have a check. Cause for Nitro to go till so high is quite unusual, cause most user temperature is <85 degree c
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post Feb 19 2015, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(lopiop @ Feb 19 2015, 11:50 AM)
i dont think its a hardware issue, the game is just demanding thats all
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Well problem is the GPU is suspected to throttle. I think new GPU won't have this kind of issue in low settings + reso. 860m is a budget + decent GPU, not entry level also.. So shouldn't be throttling much
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post Feb 23 2015, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(hctang @ Feb 23 2015, 10:21 AM)
What software do u use to monitor temperature?
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HwMonitor

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post Feb 27 2015, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(aloy88 @ Feb 26 2015, 10:43 PM)
sigh... the problem is i bought from lazada.

i guess i need to head straight to the warranty center.

not a good start. but so far so good quite impress with this laptop.

by the way, do you all have this issue where some of the software are not full resolution ? i realise when im installing some software, can notice the pop out tab is not optimize to HD
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That's why I don't like to purchase stuff like laptop from online, especially those online store which is not from the official brand itself.
You should have a warranty card or code which comes along with your laptop. The warranty will most probably be from Acer directly. Just head to Acer service center and show them the code or card or any document.
Then you can proceed to claim for your warranty. Lazada doesn't provide any laptop warranty. But I think there is a 1 to 1 exchange if your parcel is damaged, but I not sure you're able to do so or not since you're already using it for few days already.

QUOTE(hctang @ Feb 26 2015, 11:58 PM)
may i know where u apply ur thermal paste? am looking for trustable technician.. scare they might spoil my new lappie  tongue.gif
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Just head to Acer service center or the place you bought it, and tell them you want to reapply new thermal paste. And specifically tell them which thermal paste you want, like IC Diamond or other. DON'T use Stock Thermal Paste. Extra fee will be charged.

QUOTE(gid @ Feb 27 2015, 09:23 AM)
I was searching high and low got CPUID before CNY because I suspect my laptop not working well
then I found this ...

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my bus speed ok but not the multiplier. it stay at x8.
I send it back to Acer for checking, and YES, there is a problem.
Still waiting for their report.
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If you're not OC-ing your CPU, under Balanced mode x8 is normal. smile.gif
But if it is constant x8, there is a problem.
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post Feb 27 2015, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(aloy88 @ Feb 27 2015, 11:28 AM)
just send my laptop to claim the warranty for keyboard. quiet impress with their service. 10am delivery 2pm can take back smile.gif

btw how much is the extra charge for the thermal paste ?
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It depends on what type of thermal paste you want to use. Some charge RM50 for IC Diamond (IC diamond itself + service charge)
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post Mar 2 2015, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(shadowlck @ Mar 2 2015, 12:36 AM)
The performance between 2GB and 4GB didn't have much difference though.
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FYI, if you're playing previous year game on ultra settings, it may affect your performance. More vram means you can render better texture
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post Mar 2 2015, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(austinjklim @ Mar 2 2015, 10:37 AM)
So what is your personal opinion of the Nitro?  The price tag of RM3280 compared to Y50 RM 2900 is kinda far though but u get a much better IPS screen.

PROS of V15 Nitro
- Much better IPS screen compared to Y50
- Dual cooling Fan
- 3 Usb 3.0

PROS of Y50
- Cheaper than V15
- Has the 4gb gddr5 maxwell gtx860m compared to the V15 2gb gddr5 maxwell gtx860m
- 2 years limited warranty compared to acer 1 year

Im really dissapointed about Acer giving only 1 year warranty though. I dont know how much does the extend to 3 years carry in warranty cost though.
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Lenovo Y50 is RM2900 only ?? Since when so cheap ?? I remember it is RM3.3k above. Even Lenovo MY side is stating RM3599 for lowest spec.
Make sure the unit you get for that price is not AP set. A lot of Lenovo AP set in the market.
Both Acer and Lenovo is using dual fan.
IMO, Lenovo screen is a big let down, only 48hz response time and TN panel. You can't get 60fps when using v-sync. Others seems fine though.

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post Mar 2 2015, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(austinjklim @ Mar 2 2015, 04:38 PM)
I found one seller in lyn selling at 2.9k not AP set (i think) since its offers 2 years warranty. Been trying to find the lowest price of V15 nitro but no luck sad.gif
Why u buy from lazada so cheap d? The most cheap i saw is Rm3280 here in lyn. sad.gif The warranty 3 years bring in right?
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You need to confirm it yourself. AP set also comes with warranty.
Last time Lazada got promotion so he get it during that time.
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post Mar 3 2015, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(aloy88 @ Mar 2 2015, 06:43 PM)
Cause I bought from lazada which is one year Acer warranty , knowing tech stuff which will might have some risk cause of own personal bad experience with tech items.

I went lowyat all shops selling the super care 2 for rm 250. Aone plus sold it to me for rm 180 for super care 2.

If u guys wanna buy seperately u can go aoneplus in lowyat to purchase the supercare 2 and look for James
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May I know the extra warranty you bought is International warranty or Local ? and is it their Acer warranty or their own shop warranty ?

QUOTE(austinjklim @ Mar 2 2015, 07:55 PM)
Thanks but too bad i personally dont live in KL sad.gif I heard got news that the new gtx 9xx series will be coming out for the Nitro this month smile.gif hope its comes to malaysia market asap T_T
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I think the 9xx series won't come cheap. I bet it will come after GST also which will be more expensive.
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post Mar 3 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(austinjklim @ Mar 3 2015, 02:56 PM)
I hope they release the spec faster.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3112306
9xx chips are better performing and maybe at the same price as 8xx series. Hopefully they release the spec fast so I can decide whether to buy it now or just wait few more weeks to get the 9xx series depending on the price
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Well, 965m is indeed better than 860m, but it will 100% to be more expensive than 860m. But if you could afford 965m, you may as well top up a bit more to get 970m which is even better, the price different of 965m and 970m is <RM200 (ILLEGEAR S5 model)
For 960m vs 860m, the performance increase is just 30%, from 30fps to 39fps. The increase is not dramatic enough for me to get it if the price different is more than RM100.
Personally, I won't expect the 9xx series is going to be the same price as 860m or very near it. Nvidia is dominating mobile gpu market, impossible they will give u a good gpu with budget price.
Just my two cent though.
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post Mar 5 2015, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(ai_m @ Mar 5 2015, 12:00 PM)
already got a group, i welcome myself into this group then.

I upgraded my v Nitro by adding 128gb SSD to M.2 slot, and buy a seagate 2TB external hdd and crack it open to use for hdd part.

I also open up and re-apply a thermal paste using Xigmatek thermal paste i got spare. I forgot to make some before temp. for gaming. but usually I can get around 70C for GPU now.

and i dont actually like turbo boost that much coz it adds up heats and only provide some unsignificant performance boost, so i set my power profile to use 99% power to disable turbo boost.

what you guys have done to your units?
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Wah.. Why don't just get a 2TB 2.5'' HDD instead of cracking your External HDD ? You already have the HDD beforehand is it ?
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(chiong1983 @ Mar 10 2015, 07:46 AM)
For those with cooling problems i found a way to control the both fans speed , and i think that auto fan speed never use the full potential of those fans , because i got even 94°C cpu temp and the fans sound aren't nearly close to the nousy sound when i set them to max speed.
You need to download rw everything from here http://rweverything.com/ and launch it , then select the "EC" tab that is circled in screenshot.
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Then go to 90x03 that is for right fan near the GPU , it should h;ave value 04 for auto fan speed , you must modify it to 14 for manual fan speed then you can modify the speed in the next column (90x04) with values from 99 to 60 , where 99 value is the lowest speed and the 60 value the highest speed , in the next column (90x05) you will see the actual speed of the fan
For the left fan near the CPU go to 90x06 and do the same thing: 04 for auto fan speed , 14 for manual fan speed ; and in the next column (90x07) set the speed with values from 99 to 40 , where the 40 is the max speed of that fan.
With the fans set to maximum speed , i never exceed 65°C in GPU and 80°C in CPU that is set to run with all four cores to 3.5GHZ from intel XTU.
I think that the cooling system potential on this laptop is more efficient than the one from asus G571 which is giant.
I hope that was useful for those with high temp problems.
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Nice. But didn't Acer V Nitro has a settings or macro key to set the fan speed to maximum ? My Z5 has it so I use it every time I'm playing high demanding game like COD AW.
Good temperature you get there smile.gif should ask the TS to stick it on the first page so all Acer V Nitro user can read it.
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post Mar 12 2015, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Mar 12 2015, 12:26 AM)
Sifus, just got my nitro v15 yesterday. I want to ask. Do you sometime feel the words on your screen blur? i felt that especially in Spotify.

Also, if i open dxdiag, under DISPLAY will show INTEL HD GRAPHICS 4000. Under Render will show NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX860M.

is it meant to be like this? It will auto switch to NVIDIA when gaming? sorry , quite blur on this.
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QUOTE(shadowlck @ Mar 12 2015, 08:27 AM)
Well, you need to set the text smaller by going to your desktop => right click => screen resolution => Make text and other items larger or smaller = > then choose 125% - medium
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I think it should be right click on desktop > Personalize > Display > change from medium to smaller (100%). Everything will be sharp then, but the font and icon will be smaller though
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post Mar 14 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(ylums @ Mar 13 2015, 10:23 PM)
After playing Watchdogs, see the max temperature. Already max the fan speed and turned off the turbo boost. Any suggestion will be good.  biggrin.gif
ps : GPU max 86c
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You laptop is overheating. The temperature of your CPU and GPU shouldn't be that high. Either repaste your thermal paste to a better one like IC Diamond or GC Extreme.
Do dust cleaning and try again. If not there is a serious issue in your laptop already.
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post Mar 14 2015, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(hctang @ Mar 14 2015, 10:37 PM)
wouldnt i will void my warranty if i go repaste my thermal paste? thought of buying supercare extended warranty
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Ask them to repaste for you and specifying what thermal paste you want. I believe the service center will do it for you.
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post Mar 15 2015, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(hctang @ Mar 14 2015, 11:16 PM)
have u done this before?
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Sorry I'm not Acer V Nitro user. I'm ILLEGEAR Z5 user. ILLEGEAR allow you to repaste it youself as long as you didn't damage the component. They provides services to repaste the thermal compound for their laptop also.
I think Acer service center will also provides this service also
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post Mar 24 2015, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Stardust2197 @ Mar 24 2015, 12:42 AM)
I'm having this laptop for several days already . So far so good is all i can say.
Screen and sound is considered very good for a laptop of this size. IPS panel certainly did its job. No way you could complain bout the audio as well until you switched off Dolby Digital Plus.

As for the overheat problem .. Well it depends ..

I ran NFS Rivals ( MAXED OUT ) on it , CPU temps on average is hovering around 84-89*c , reaching a maximum of 92*c , GPU temps on average is around 80-83*c , maximum of 85*c. Constant 30fps as NFS capped it there.

I also ran BF3 on high-ultra settings ( custom ). Without V-sync = similar results as above NFS Rivals but FPS got up to over 100fps. With V-sync on = CPU temp is still almost the same but GPU dropped to around 75*c and FPS capped at a respectable frame rate of 60FPS.

Please take note that I ran those games mentioned above in normal room condition with just a ceiling fan ( no air-cond or whatsoever , however there is a cooling pad below which is a cheapo one that was given as a freebie when i purchased this laptop ) . WASD and the overall left side area was cooling all the time . Lower right, the palm rest area ( below arrow keys do get a bit warm but its acceptable ). Above F7 - F12 function keys do get kinda warm while gaming where that is the place of all the processing chips .

As for COD Advance Warfare , I played it in an air-conditioned room. CPU temp around 72-82*c , GPU temp around 69-75*c with FPS around 35-40 with default graphics preset ( I din check )

ALL TEMPERATURES WERE MONITORED USING MSI AFTERBURNER's ON-SCREEN-DISPLAY

WIFI
I have no issues with the WiFi. I'm getting identical results as my desktop which is connected using LAN cable. No dropped connections and 5 bars all the time . About 20 feet away from my router.

I am using the newer model ACER ASPIRE V15 NITRO VN7-591G-744NK . I hope the above information helped you with your overheating concern on this laptop with a little bonus clarifying what people say about poor wifi connection.
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The new one with gtx960m ? I think it should be cooler right ?
COD AW should be able to play on high settings preset 1080p and you could get 60fps constant without v-sync. Your temperature is quite high compared to others though. I remember there is a Acer user which get 85 degree C max when playing BF or Far Cry. I think maybe your cooling pad is disturbing the air flow ?

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