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Hansel
post Nov 24 2016, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 23 2016, 10:50 PM)
keypoint:

the Manager expects the DPU yield to increase moving forward..

so basically it's good news  rclxms.gif
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Bro,... just dropping-in to ask this question : does the Mgr's expectation normally come true when a Msian REIT Mgr says the above ?
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post Nov 24 2016, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 24 2016, 10:52 AM)
Normally come true but it's won't be full.. Partial only..
Like they say EPU expected to increase by 2sen, actual could be only 1sen..
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Okay,... tks bro,... then that's good,...
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post Jan 25 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 25 2017, 02:12 PM)
You never know at this craze.. it might happen..  laugh.gif

My reit holdings has already given me 8-10 years of dividend in form of capital appreciation.  rclxms.gif
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Same here, though my REITs (and Trusts and Stocks too), are across the border, they have given me lots of capital appreciation too in the last 8 to 9 years. On top of that, since I bought low during the GFC, the yield has been good, dividend has been healthy,....
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post Jan 25 2017, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 25 2017, 02:09 PM)
I will most certainly dump IGBREIT when net yield drops below 4%.

That would be, based on historical dividend, around RM1.87 unsure.gif
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IGBREIT is safe,... if you dump this REIT, you must be able to find another REIT to place this,... will you be able to find one which has the same qualities as IGBREIT ?
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post Jan 25 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 24 2017, 10:52 PM)
Carry trade is no longer usd. Now the hedge funds are pairing sgd or jpy trades. These currency still have low interest and is linked to usd weakness. For example sgd/inr is a favourite pair.

But then again you might be right, as i check all the reit holdings have very little foreign holders....

Flight to safety also does not make much sense as you can see there is prolonged weakness in solid divvy stocks like nestle or heineken. Some of these now out yield the reits.
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To me, the best carry trade pair is the AUD-JPY pair. AUD, though has dropping central bank rates recently, has always been strong, hence, minimising forex risk in the trade, while holding.

Whereas, for the JPY, the BOJ has always wanted the JPY to be weak,...

I've held on to some AUDJPY pairs for a few years, and have been enjoying picking-up the differential yield earned.
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post Jan 25 2017, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Jan 25 2017, 04:13 PM)
All malls will die someday, I believe years ago no one would have believed Sg Wang to have its current fate.
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That's an interesting observation,... hmm.gif
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post Jan 26 2017, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 26 2017, 07:38 AM)
How do you hold on the AUDJPY pairs for so long? Forex brokers?
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My broker, isn't this normal ? How long do you hold ?
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post Feb 3 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 3 2017, 11:39 AM)
About 5.7% net, kira ok la if u compare to IGBREIT and KLCC punya 4%+
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Looks like highest is ard 5.7% only,... for MY REITs,... can't beat S-REITs and A-REITs,...
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post Mar 7 2017, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(holybo @ Mar 6 2017, 10:53 PM)
sold off all igbreit, i dont think they will privatize reit, it is overvalued for a business owner / developer
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If IGB wishes to privatise IGB REIT, the parent will know how to 'depress the price' first, in order not to pay more to investors to release the units. That's the 'first trick'.
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post Mar 8 2017, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 7 2017, 01:53 PM)
FD no capital growth tongue.gif

FD no revenue growth tongue.gif

FD no AGM to attend to get freebies tongue.gif
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On the flipside;

FD has no possible capital loss.
FD also has no possible 'negative revenue'.
FD has no hassles of needing to consider carefully and deciding to participate or not participate in possible corporate actions that may possibly, say.. dilute our holdings, hence less thinking required and less headache.
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post Apr 15 2017, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 15 2017, 12:42 AM)
Lol...not really buy all companies lah...buy top 200 "good" companies...good is subjective tongue.gif
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Actually,... I know of a few clients of mine who are able to earn SG dividends, and after converting into the RM, they are enjoying a good living in KL. A few SG fellas who migrated to KL and Penang under the Msia My Second Home Program are also living very good lives from their SG dividends.

Their lives become even better when the RM depreciates further against the SGD,... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif they're always saying this,.... they're always waiting for this. They say: earn SGD, but spend in RM. And no tax against their SG dividends.

So, living on dividends in KL and Penang is actually doable !
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post Apr 15 2017, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Apr 15 2017, 02:30 PM)
Bro, I am half jokingly talking about making a living from eating buffets at Agm! Not from dividends. If 100 shares cost rm100..and per year u get to eat one meal worth rm30 and door gifts worth rm20... that's 50% per annum return ... haven't count regular return yet
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Okay, bro,... thumbsup.gif That's a first,... I htought it was divvies you were talking abt,...
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post May 27 2017, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ May 27 2017, 02:09 PM)
so in your opinion, the reit is okay?
don't need to worry about the losses?? temporary only??
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If the loss in the YTL Income Statement is due to forex only, then the losses are not realized because the loan (3.2Mil RM) is not paid back yet, and has NOT BEEN RECALLED by the creditor.

Hence, it is only numbers here. It is an accounting procedure, and does not really affect a big company too much. In future, if, and only if,... as in the eg given earlier, the AUDMYR exchange rate can return to 3.00, the loss will be erased off via a future report. But, if the exchange rate remains above 3.00, a loss continues to be reflected in future Income Statements.
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post May 27 2017, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 27 2017, 04:43 PM)
If the rate will be higher, then its realised income from Australia operation will be higher as well.

Aud rise, you will have
a) realised income rise, higher DPU.
b) loss in forex, hence may report loss in P&L
c) Revaluation of property in term of Aud afterwards may chalk in forex gain in RM, eventually higher P&L for that particular year.

Aud drop
a) realised income reduced, potential lower DPU.
b) gain in forex, higher P&L.
c) Revaluation of property result in forex loss, hence impact the P&L
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I think if we are to stretched it beyond just the currency of forex effect, then, to be more accurate, it's not really straightaway to realised income incaresed or reduced. IT's more like in the following :-

Aud rises, you will have
a) gross rental collected rises
b) but property expenses, taxes, etc also rises
c) finally translating into realized income rises or falls, further translating into dpu rise or fall.

But, the P&L or Income Statement will of course reflects a rise in the revaluation of property in RM terms.

Aud drops will exhibit the opposite of the above effects !
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post Jul 28 2017, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Paddy Teddington @ Jul 28 2017, 05:52 PM)
I don't dare collect because it's trade receivables is at an elevated level meaning got overdue rent. Even at last agm, mgmt admit some of its tenants at subang parade have cash flow problems. Be careful of bad debt write offs.
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Paddy,... thank you for this important update,... THis is an alert for investors on this ctr.

The REIT that I invest in in SG has holding positions in Hektar REIT too,... I'd hope the REIT, Frasers Centrepoint Trust does not increase its position in this 'lousy' Hektar,...
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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Aug 7 2017, 08:06 AM)
If the REIT has steady occupancy rate and operate under long term lease eg 15-20 years, it might worth a look into.
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Thing is under poor mkt conditions, IPO Issuers will not jack-up the IPO price too high,...
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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 22 2017, 02:11 PM)

Only thing is forex risk as some properties are overseas.

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Bro,... I believed for the RM-denominated REITs, there would not be too much of forex risks because the RM tends to weaken against many currencies of the world,... when the RM weakens, the gross rental collected would be MORE,...

Our SG friends are more nervous abt forex risks because the SGD tends to strengthen against many currencies of the world,....
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post Aug 29 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 29 2017, 09:59 AM)
Sadly to say, Malaysia online business is not booming as fast pace, as many people are still skeptical about online buying, as many did encounter not so good experience over the course in term of online buying.

Eager to have those kind of reit in the market, so that investors have more choice, instead of only office, industrial or malls.
Even Sg only has 1 data center reit for "newer" type of reit.
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The yield for Keppel DC REIT is not particularly that great too,...
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post Aug 29 2017, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Aug 29 2017, 11:56 AM)
I don't really like Data REITs, high capex once the lease is finished and you need to get a new tenant. New tenant usually have high spec for these kind of properties, for their server to co-locate.
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How do you mean, bro,... by high capex once the lease is finished ? Is it that the trustee-mgr need to renovate again at high cost with additional tech specs before renting out to another tenant ? If the premise is not a BTS type, why shld additional specs be added ?

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