QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 10 2015, 02:24 PM)
Certainly,.. a weapon that can be used when times are bad.Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)
Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)
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Sep 10 2015, 02:32 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 03:50 PM
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Just general statements Vincent heard of from one individual,... guys,..
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Sep 12 2015, 03:54 PM
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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Sep 12 2015, 03:51 PM) The difference between ASB n Banks is the former have no ATM card whereas the later have ATM card which facilitate withdrawal anytime n anywhere The person Vincent spoke to may not use the ATM at all,... could be an elderly man depending on over-the-counter withdrawals only. There are still such people around, elderly parents and grandparents of my clients.... |
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Sep 12 2015, 06:10 PM
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Sep 12 2015, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 12 2015, 06:07 PM) about the ASB 200k.. in AR 2014 don't write 200k, but 50,001 to 500,000 range (total 786,207 unitholders) May not reflect the net worth accurately, because they can take loans to buy the units. For units under bank loans, are these reflected as the units of the unitholders or as the units belonging to the banks ?let's take 500k above group. there's around 16,298 unitholders who hold around 12bil units in ASB plz noted that 6,160,398 unitholders holding LESS than 5k in ASB |
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Sep 12 2015, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 12 2015, 06:21 PM) the ASB certificate kept by the bank. yearly dividend are credited into ASB passbook » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « In that case, the units which were purchased by bank financing is also reflected a the unitholder's units. Net worth = assets minus liabilities. Hence, the number of units held by the categories of the unitholders do not really reflect the net worths of the unitholders. This makes it difficult to judge if the large number of units held by the 16K+ unitholders represent the saying that 5%of the population holds 95% of the wealth. 'Banks could be holding' the large number of units here instead of the individuals. |
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Sep 14 2015, 09:27 PM
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Don't pull out all YET. Perhaps just half, halve your risk first. Observe the 20B's performance....
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Sep 14 2015, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 12 2015, 11:50 PM) Hansel If somehow ASM stays as FP and tax exempted is extended, will you try to buy back the units you sold? Or you will move on? If the funds hav been sent out, I wouldn't want to bring them back anymore.As dreamer put it, my EPF in this country is already exposed to this country, hence, it's good to diversify outside of the country after the EPF. |
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Sep 15 2015, 07:54 AM
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 14 2015, 09:47 PM) Can never be sure, but there is still time to withdraw ALL if we wished to. I'll wait for the budget ann't first, and if the Gov't does not have concreteplans from the budget without using more of PNB money, by then we can always decide to pullout all. Prior to the above, we can wait to see if the 20B pumped into the KLCI will really yield results. Earn more dividend while you can, pull out all when all hopes are deemed lost, and before time's up. This post has been edited by Hansel: Sep 15 2015, 07:55 AM |
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Sep 15 2015, 08:19 AM
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Sep 15 2015, 11:06 AM
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The irony of the matter is :-
1) On the FP to VP matter : if there is going to be any change, The MP will only reflect the change in the 2016/2017 version. 2) On the Taxation matter : if again, there is going to be any change, the MP will only reflect the change in the 2017/2018 version. We can't depend on the MPs for any hints of any possible changes that might take place. |
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