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post Jan 30 2015, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 30 2015, 10:11 PM)
The Bible doesn't mention about dimensions but speaks of 3 Heavens.

In Genesis 1:6 & 1:14 And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water | And God said, “Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years
Here is where Earth is created and talks about separation between Sky (Heaven) and Land speaks of Earth Atmosphere, our immediate Sky. First Heaven
  
In Genesis 1:1 & 2:1 God created the Heavens and the Earth. | Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
Plural, speaks of Deep Space and Galaxies. The second Heavens

In 2 Corinthians:12:1-4 I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven.
Third Heaven is basically believed by many Scholars to be the dwelling place of God, the His Throne, his Angels and his saints.

Perhaps out of reach for some, but never for his children.

In our finite mind it's hard to understand this But God is not really not millions of light years away.

If you look here

Matthew 12:28 (KJV) - But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.
Luke 17:21 (KJV) - Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

it means that wherever God is, is where his Kingdom is. Something like Doraemon pocket of multiple dimension. This means that as Believers, we have the Kingdom of God in us, why? Because Jesus resides in our heart.

Consider this verse:

*2 Chronicles 6:18 - "But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built!

Then read this

Jeremiah 23:24
Who can hide in secret places so that I cannot see them?" declares the LORD. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the LORD.

The keyword is: He fills the Heaven and the Earth, in other words: He is EVERYWHERE. Omnipresence.

In Closing Summary, He is within reach.

*2 Chronicles 6:18 basically speaks of a very common question we all ask: Where does God reside? And God answered in Jeremiah 23:24 & Luke 17:21.
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Yeah, I know. It's only an opinion. While He is within our reach, I'm saying it is only possible because He allows it to be. On the other hand, since we are 3rd-dimensional beings, it will be impossible to reach God physically, and I think that's because we will need to transcend the higher dimensions, which we have no access to.

While this opinion may not be biblical in nature, but somehow I think it provides a lot of answers to many questions whenever it involves the existence of God, and also the question of free will, and as well as the question of predestination.



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post Jan 30 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 10:11 PM)
Is it compulsory to join a ministry?

I sad to say that I'm a lazy person. But I will do my best. Maybe flower arrangement.
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nope it's not necessary, i used to be in a ministry too but then i quitted already
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post Jan 30 2015, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 30 2015, 10:41 PM)
Yeah, I know. It's only an opinion. While He is within our reach, I'm saying it is only possible because He allows it to be. On the other hand, since we are 3rd-dimensional beings, it will be impossible to reach God physically, and I think that's because we will need to transcend the higher dimensions, which we have no access to.

While this opinion may not be biblical in nature, but somehow I think it provides a lot of answers to many questions whenever it involves the existence of God, and also the question of free will, and as well as the question of predestination.
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Just have to determined our spirit being, belongs to what dimension.

Because that is the form which by we can see God or reach God. God after all is a spirit being. (John 4:24)

Dr Yonggi Cho stated that the Holy Spirit is in the fourth dimension, very possible so is our spirit being.
Not to say, that this is a confirm fact (honestly I don't really know) but just for discussion sake.

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post Jan 30 2015, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 10:04 PM)
When is CNY? I'll be going to Cambodia next month.

19th and 20th Feb.

Barry Meguiar is the President of Meguiar. An Evangelical Christian.
Valentine Day is an over-rated Western culture and is overly commercialized.

Even when I was in a relationship, I didn't see any big deal in celebrating this pointless day.

To me, everyday is a Valentine Day.  laugh.gif
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It's really overrated here as well, it gives another reason for vendors and restaurants to jack up the prices on that day itself.

It shows you're a reasonable girlfriend, not spending unnecessary money.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:16 PM

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kron_ka back to our last conversation, God created Eve to accompany Adam. Don't be so down, bro. Cheer up smile.gif better days are coming.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(Carlo J @ Jan 30 2015, 11:13 PM)
It's really overrated here as well, it gives another reason for vendors and restaurants to jack up the prices on that day itself.

It shows you're a reasonable girlfriend, not spending unnecessary money.
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I only spend it on handbags, clothes and shoes.

Better to spend that extra money on family instead. BF can find, but family you can't.

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post Jan 30 2015, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 30 2015, 10:54 PM)
Just have to determined our spirit being, belongs to what dimension.

Because that is the form which by we can see God.

Dr Yonggi Cho stated that the Holy Spirit is in the fourth dimension, very possible so is our spirit being.
Not to say, that this is a confirm fact (honestly I don't really know) but just for discussion sake.
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Hmm, I wouldn't be too sure about, because the 4th dimension is actually time. Imagine looking at your right and left, and you are able to see yourself 5 minutes in the past, and 5 minutes from now. You could be reading a newspaper in the past, or brushing your teeth in the future, but you'll always see yourself always reading a newspaper in the past and brushing your teeth in the future...constantly, just by simply looking at your left and your right. As 3rd dimensional beings of course, we are always a slave to the present, as we have no physical means to be able to reach to the past nor the future...with the exception of waiting for the future to arrive every time.

Imagine asking a friend out. A 3rd dimensional being will ask 2 things: 1) The place, and 2) The time, or vice versa. A 5th dimensional being however (with access to the 4th dimension), have no need to ask for both information, as they have physical access to time itself. This means they only need to ask where, and 5th dimensional beings will be able to meet each other, unlike us, the 3rd dimensional beings.

This is why I think God is above the 10th dimensions (or even higher) where He is completely unrestricted in time and space, and realities, unlike us human beings.

I don't know about Dr. Yonggi Cho, but I'll need to research a lil' bit more.

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post Jan 30 2015, 11:31 PM

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Paul teaches us to be humble right, but even then, some of us can't emulate Paul let alone Jesus.

Acts 20:19

I served the Lord with great humility and with tears and in the midst of severe testing by the plots of my Jewish opponents.


But Paul had ‘all humility’, including humility of mind: intellectual humility.


http://www.metropolitantabernacle.org/Chri...Trowel-Magazine

Satan was proud right, thinking that he's on equal terms with God?


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post Jan 30 2015, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 30 2015, 11:29 PM)
Hmm, I wouldn't be too sure about, because the 4th dimension is actually time. Imagine looking at your right and left, and you are able to see yourself 5 minutes in the past, and 5 minutes from now. You could be reading a newspaper in the past, or brushing your teeth in the future, but you'll always see yourself always reading a newspaper in the past and brushing your teeth in the future...constantly, just by simply looking at your left and your right. As 3rd dimensional beings of course, we are always a slave to the present, as we have no physical means to be able to reach to the past nor the future...with the exception of waiting for the future to arrive every time.

Imagine asking a friend out. A 3rd dimensional being will ask 2 things: 1) The place, and 2) The time, or vice versa. A 5th dimensional being however (with access to the 4th dimension), have no need to ask for both information, as they have physical access to time itself. This means they only need to ask where, and 5th dimensional beings will be able to meet each other, unlike us, the 3rd dimensional beings.

This is why I think God is above the 10th dimensions (or even higher) where He is completely unrestricted in time and space, and realities, unlike us human beings.

I don't know about Dr. Yonggi Cho, but I'll need to research a lil' bit more.
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Too much of "Interstellar." blink.gif
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 11:32 PM)
Too much of "Interstellar."  blink.gif
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Lol, I already like the string theory before I watch that movie, and I loved it even more after watching Interstellar.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 30 2015, 11:33 PM)
Lol, I already like the string theory before I watch that movie, and I loved it even more after watching Interstellar.
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Does it matter which dimension God is at?

God is omnipresent.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 11:35 PM)
Does it matter which dimension God is at?

God is omnipresent.
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Yeah well, the theory is that the reason He is omnipresent was because He isn't bound by the limitations that we have, by being in the higher dimensions.
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post Jan 30 2015, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 30 2015, 11:36 PM)
Yeah well, the theory is that the reason He is omnipresent was because He isn't bound by the limitations that we have, by being in the higher dimensions.
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This reminds me of Stephen Hawking. He's convinced that God doesn't exist. But he can't prove it.

IF God didn't exist, who created the Universe? Who created God? God didn't create himself.

God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).

1. God exists in timeless eternity
2. God exists in multiple dimensions of time

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/w...reated_god.html



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post Jan 30 2015, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 30 2015, 11:43 PM)
This reminds me of Stephen Hawking. He's convinced that God doesn't exist. But he can't prove it.

IF God didn't exist, who created the Universe? Who created God? God didn't create himself.

God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).

1. God exists in timeless eternity
2. God exists in multiple dimensions of time

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/w...reated_god.html
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AH! I understand what you mean. But you see, little do the physicists know (or at least I think they're keeping quiet about it), is that the string theory today, i.e. The Theory of Everything, could very well prove the existence of God, and answers many questions within the scientific community. Problem is, it remains still a theory today, and only in writing, because mankind has no really found a way to create a machine or to control these dimensions. Until then, there will be people in the scientific community who are not going to believe, which I believe by the time they're on to something, the existence of God will pretty much be established.

To all quantum and theoretical physicists who are reading this, this is merely my opinion. Chill.

The string theory, the Dark matter, and the Dark flow are currently, in my opinion, are the only game in town (within the scientific community) whenever it comes to the science to the question of existence, and perhaps, to the question of the existence of God.

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post Jan 31 2015, 12:00 AM

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Ah, I was never a good science student. rclxub.gif

Bet DE going bonkers IF he read about this theory.




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post Jan 31 2015, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 31 2015, 12:00 AM)
Ah, I was never a good science student.  rclxub.gif

Bet DE going bonkers IF he read about this theory.
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Nah, no worries. I sincerely believe that the best way to enjoy science is to have an interest in imagination itself. The string theory was written based on how we can imagine ourselves looking at a piece of paper with two points in space, and how we can simply fold the paper itself to create what physicists call the "wormhole", to literally "bend" time and space. That takes imagination, and is obviously not observable. But since they can write out the equations on a piece of paper, it is somehow integrated to science, that is, a scientific theory for the time being.

Oh no. I'm afraid he'll misunderstood scientific theories for his ego.

But this is something really cool, and when I'll draw a diagram soon, just show I can post it here. It's basically how we, as human beings view time and space, in comparison to how God views them.

I was always stucked in the questions on how God can exists without affecting free will, and without affecting the world how He wanted it to be. With string theory, I may have very well found certain (which is close to scientific) answers to those questions.

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post Jan 31 2015, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 31 2015, 12:09 AM)
Oh no. I'm afraid he'll misunderstood science for his wild fantasies.
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The right thing is ask HS. Always ask HS and don't think right / wrong.
I think this is his famous tagline. laugh.gif

Basically you can ask DE all kind of questions, regardless or not he knows the answers (most of the time he don't have a clue)....Then he'll tell us "Ask HS."

There's a famous quote, "There's no such thing as a stupid questions, only stupid answers."

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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 31 2015, 12:16 AM)
I think this is his famous tagline.  laugh.gif

Basically you can ask DE all kind of questions, regardless or not he knows the answers (most of the time he don't have a clue)....Then he'll tell us "Ask HS."

There's a famous quote, "There's no such thing as a stupid questions, only stupid answers."
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We better stop. Didn't want him to feel too bad reading this.
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post Jan 31 2015, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jan 31 2015, 12:18 AM)
We better stop. Didn't want him to feel too bad reading this.
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But he's annoying. Plus reading his English gives me headache.

He's a grown man, besides he's probably sleeping now. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(tinarhian @ Jan 31 2015, 12:24 AM)
But he's annoying. Plus reading his English gives me headache.

He's a grown man, besides he's probably sleeping now.  laugh.gif
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Nah, I didn't feel like poking fun at him too much.

God knows what he's been through, and I didn't wanna judge.

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