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post Feb 25 2015, 03:34 PM

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"Death row inmates are routinely whisked into the dense forest at midnight......"


it is inside the compound, not in the dense forest, not whisked but under direct supervision of officials....these people really love to dramatize things
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post Feb 25 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Feb 25 2015, 03:35 PM)
They expect Australia to intercept the Hercules?
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These flankers are unarmed with empty hardpoints....just an expression of sternness from the Indonesian governmet
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post Feb 26 2015, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(madoka @ Feb 26 2015, 08:39 AM)
Yup because of that, Brazillian President using that issue to boost her popularity in which has drop so low because of Petrobras Scandal
Haha maybe Malaysia interested to get our fresh delivery Astros with discount prices  brows.gif harga bisa nego lah
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If spare parts become problem....maybe pinoys will be interested with Super Tucano
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 26 2015, 09:58 AM)
I'm not sure Pinoys are interested in COIN aircraft nowadays. They want/need jet fighters.
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After F/A-50 arrives....they need to replace Bronco
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Xsence @ Feb 26 2015, 11:00 AM)
Found this thread!!!  Yes...
Can someone tell me or explain to me why
A aircraft carrier is so superior?
Overrated?
It's so huge... Won't it be a easy target?
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Carrier isn't overrated...itu influence began to be felt the raid on Taranto harbor by Royal Navy...the Italian Navy is nearly paralyzed only due to a few biplanes...

then Pearl harbor attack and the Pacific War was dominated by carriers....not battleship..

Carrier battle groups primary defense are their own aircrafts that can destroy targets from hundreds of miles away. Then there are escorts....read Wikipedia about the capability of Arleigh Burke DDG, Ticonderoga CG and Los Angeles SSN. They can even intercept ballistic missiles and destroy satellites on orbits
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post Feb 27 2015, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 27 2015, 10:16 AM)
Have the possibility to beat Su-35 and TNI-AU forced to use Typhoon, if government considers the overall lower operational cost and PT DI can build final assembly line.

But, PT DI is still busy with R&D of KFX and N-219, I don't think it still has enough remaining resources to absorb and implement Typhoon's technology


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post Mar 2 2015, 05:28 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Mar 1 2015, 11:27 PM)
what type is it ? cruiser? destroyer?
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ASW destroyer.....have weak air defense
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post Mar 2 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 2 2015, 09:18 AM)
event ASW capability also weak ...
almost outdated and old DDG.
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Also with poor endurance.....need to accompanied all the times with oiler and tug.....
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post Mar 2 2015, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 2 2015, 01:00 PM)
Not really, russian vessel except for its nuclear powered are designed to operate well within its waters and slightly beyond. Any further would require a replenishing tankers. Tug are bring along just in case anyone breakdown.  Russia dont favour docking at unknown port and will drag their ship back to homeport if have to even it a emergency. There a few report of its as well.

If our vessel were to travel beyond our waters, they would also need to have a tanker nearby to refuel.
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Yeah....wonder why don't visit ports to refuel...smaller corvettes can sail from Europe to SEA without oilers
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post Mar 4 2015, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 4 2015, 12:58 PM)

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- 16x Mk 41 VLS for Raytheon ESSM surface to air missiles located forward, behind the main gun


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?o...sk=view&id=2454
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so...4 quadrupled ESSM x 16 VLS = 64 ESSM ?
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post Mar 4 2015, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 4 2015, 06:49 PM)
Russian Jets Penetrate NATO Ships' Air Defenses in Black Sea

Russia's newest Su-30 fighter jets and Su-24 attack bombers are using two NATO ships in the Black Sea to practice penetrating anti-air systems, a source at the Sevastopol naval base told RIA Novosti.

"These ships' crews are doubtlessly conducting exercises in repelling air attacks from our planes, which gives our pilots the opportunity to gain experience in maneuvering and conducting aerial reconnaissance both in the range of anti-air systems and outside their range."

Other than that, the jets are monitoring the movements on the two ships, the USS Vicksburg missile cruiser and the Turkish TCG Turgutreis frigate, which are located in the southwestern part of the Black Sea. On Tuesday, three Su-30 jets and four Su-24 bombers conducted monitoring flights over these ships from the Novofedorovka air base.
"Our pilots are first of all, tracing the headings of the NATO ships and monitoring the assignments they are performing during their sea voyage."

Russia's Black Sea Fleet began receiving Su-30 jets in 2014, following Crimea's reunification with Russia. The USS Vicksburg is the flagman of the Standing NATO Maritime Group 2.

http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150304/1019036875.html
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In real war situation...these planes will be splashed by the SM-2 barrage from many miles away
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post Mar 5 2015, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(MrUbikeledek @ Mar 5 2015, 08:32 AM)
I think the SU-30 was there to provide ECM support to the SU-24. They will try to jam the SPY on the Tico.
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It is questionable if the ECM is effective from 100+ km away, when they are already in SM-2 range of fire.

This is still an easy scenario....it is much more likely that they are already intercepted from 300km or more by carrier-based Hornets in war situation
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post Mar 5 2015, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 5 2015, 10:13 AM)
On the other hand, in a war scenario the Black sea will very probably be a virtual Russian lake. They may not be able to venture out into the Mediterranean, but in a practical situation the Russians would probably dominate the entire Black sea area via their Black sea fleet, Crimea-based planes and shore-based AShM and conventional SRBM missiles.
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Yes.....too risky for US Navy to operate in Black Sea during wartime....better blockade the Bosporus strait and Aegean sea. Also need full presence of USAF in Turkey, Bulgaria and Romania to block any Tu-22M and Tu-160 strike
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post Mar 5 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 5 2015, 10:40 AM)
no worry, most of ship attack by jet is using low fly,  due to Earth horizon,US Destroyer SPY radar (apply  to other radar) only can see su-30/su24 about 70km+- if both jet flying 10 meter about sea level. than release Anti-ship missile at this range.  after this it depend how good destroyer to defense missile.

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Useful...if there's no nearby carrier with its Hawkeye and Hornet

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