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ttwangsa
post Apr 24 2008, 01:29 PM

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i've been reading this thread.
some say asb limit is 200k
some say its 500k

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/347861/+40

which one is correct?
i looked at the pnb site, no info...
anybody can prove its 200k or 500k?
ttwangsa
post Apr 29 2008, 12:22 AM

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can anybody fill in the blanks...
as a bumi, i can just go out and buy ASB as long as I have not exceeded my limit of 200,000.
I mean I know I cannot go out and just buy Amanah Saham Malaysia (ASM).
You have to wait till somebody sells, then you can buy.

i can see there are two categories
(a) you can buy as much as you want, but limited to a certain amount (asb, limit 200k), can never be sold out, can only be maxed out.
(b) you cannot buy if its sold out (ASM).


i have three questions.
1. are there other AS(something) that uses rule (a)
2. if there are, what's their average payout for the last 3 years?
3. besides (a) and (b), is there a AS(something) that does not fall in (a) or (b)?

thank you


Added on April 29, 2008, 12:23 am
QUOTE(Darkchild11 @ Apr 26 2008, 06:17 AM)
Actually it is possible for u to have ur 200k limit increase.It happen to me..My maximum investment limit is 230k.I

personally went n check few months back..
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how did you do that?

This post has been edited by ttwangsa: Apr 29 2008, 12:23 AM
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post Apr 29 2008, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 29 2008, 08:39 AM)
This is new to me.
Yes. At ASB, you can buy anytime as long as you have not exceeded the RM200k limit.
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that still does not answer 3 questions


Added on April 29, 2008, 9:24 am
QUOTE(ttwangsa @ Apr 29 2008, 08:46 AM)
that still does not answer 3 questions
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another question

asb dividend calculated in December

say i put in 10k in erm.. October
and dividend announced in December is 8%

do i get 8% of 10k (800)
or
i get 3/12 of 8% of 10k (200)
because its not there for a full year?


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post Apr 30 2008, 08:45 AM

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i've looked at asw and asb. asw you can use epf. asb cannot. so i think i'll withdraw epf into asw. bumi allocation still available? have to call them to find out?
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post May 5 2008, 08:34 AM

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anybody doing asw using epf?
it says here http://www.asnb.com.my/english/asw.htm
that
QUOTE
Payment of Redemption  On-the-spot, but for EPF Member's Invesment Scheme, redemption amount is payable to EPF only.


i think it says if you buy 2k of asw using epf, when you sell your 2k, the money goes back to epf.
my question is
what about the Net Distribution per unit (sen) ?
2k of for 6 months and a rate of 6.8%, I'd get roughly RM 68.
does that go to epf, or i can get my hands on them?

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post May 5 2008, 11:26 AM

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honestly, i think it would just go on normally.

ttwangsa
post May 12 2008, 08:24 AM

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asb always available

http://www.asnb.com.my/english/asb.htm

Approved Fund Size Unlimited.

that means bumi can always buy (unless they change the rules)
but up to a limit of 200,000 units per person
(the stock is unlimited, but max is 200,000 per customer)

whereas some other funds
the limit is on the Approved Fund Size
but no limit on the person
(no limit per customer, can buy a lot, but depends on available stock)
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post May 19 2008, 08:03 AM

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QUOTE(hangus @ May 18 2008, 11:40 PM)
Well , you just go to the bank and tell them that your ASB book has gone missing and they will issue you a new one tongue.gif
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i think you have to to PNB and get a surat sumpah, saying that you have lost it.
in other words, its illegal to say you have lost it when you haven't.

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post May 30 2008, 12:44 AM

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quick question.
if i have ASD passbook, do i have to go to PNB to buy more units?
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post May 30 2008, 08:47 AM

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compound bonus friend
wait a
i paste excel result
this one dividend at 7%
0 200,000.00
1 214,000.00
2 228,980.00
3 245,008.60
4 262,159.20
5 280,510.35
6 300,146.07
7 321,156.30
8 343,637.24
9 367,691.84
10 393,430.27
11 420,970.39
12 450,438.32
13 481,969.00
14 515,706.83
15 551,806.31
16 590,432.75
17 631,763.04
18 675,986.46
19 723,305.51
20 773,936.89


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post May 30 2008, 08:52 PM

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its not 200k
its compounded

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post May 30 2008, 10:34 PM

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the 200 is the limit you can put in
after that its compounded
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post May 30 2008, 11:11 PM

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i have a friend who works for PNB.
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post May 30 2008, 11:50 PM

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MilesAndMore,

you sure?
it says on item 2 of your statement 2007
JUMLAH PEGANGAN = (number greater than 200,000)

and on item number 3
PENGAGIHAN PENDAPATAN EXACTLY (16,000) ?

you had minimum, 200k+ through the whole 2007
and the dividend they paid you was exactly 16k?
you should complain.

I don't have RM 2xx,xxx in ASB,
but that's what i've been told.

its compounded
for example
if you have RM 350,000.00 in 1 january 2007,
and never withdraw, till 31 dec 2007,
you get 22,400.00 in dividend,
and depending on how long you have been saving,
you get your bonus.

the 200k limit imposed is so that you cannot add more cash
once it reaches 200k
so
if you have RM 350,000.00 in 1 january 2007,
you cannot put in more cash
maximum it can go is
22,400.00 in dividend.

ttwangsa
post Jun 2 2008, 05:29 PM

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ok.
saw my dad's asb.
dividend is more than 16k for year 2007.
so
confirmed.
its 8% of TOTAL
not 8% of 200k.


Added on June 2, 2008, 5:31 pm
QUOTE(vergas @ Jun 2 2008, 04:48 PM)
Guys, see my previous post on dividend and bonus calculation:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/347861/+779

Yes its compounded. But not monthly compounded, its yearly compounded as the dividend is only credited at beginning of next year.

Yes if you have reach 200k limit, its is still compounded.

Do distinguish Dividend and Bonus, Dividend calculated based on average lowest monthly bonus for 12 months, while bonus (for ASB) calculated based on average lowest monthly balances for 120 months (12 years)
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vergas
120 months true
12 years, not true
its 10 years

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post Jun 5 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(sabrateur @ Jun 5 2008, 02:24 PM)
I agree with ttwangsa. The dividend is calculated on the total, not just 200k.

And here is another thing:

If you already put 200k and then got 16k dividend after first year, your total now is 216k right? The limit is also increased to whatever balance you have now. For instance, if you take out 50k, you are left with 166k, but after a while you want to put back money in. How much can you put? 34k (cause limit is 200k), or 50k? The answer is 50k, bringing your balance back up to 216k.

The limit increases with your dividend, and it does not reset to 200k.
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thank you for agreeing with me
but..
i don't agree with you on the limit.
let me confirm with my PNB friend.
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post Jun 5 2008, 05:18 PM

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islam = get bumi status?
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post Jun 9 2008, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Jebonmacho @ Jun 9 2008, 10:44 AM)
When Amanah Saham Didik will announce their devidence?
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from
http://www.asnb.com.my/english/asd.htm
june 30th
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post Jun 9 2008, 05:38 PM

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i've been told
BLR will go up

i've been told
BLR up = FD rates UP

i've not been told
if FD up, ASB dividend = UP / DOWN / TOTALLY UNRELATED.

anybody knows?
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post Jun 10 2008, 03:19 PM

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can someone confirm this is true or
confirm this is false.

"FD rates has never ever ever been higher than ASB dividend".

i think this is true


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