topped up 10k... not many people this year... maybe all no money liau?
AS1M, ASB, ASW,ASM,ASG,ASD
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Apr 21 2009, 09:43 AM
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topped up 10k... not many people this year... maybe all no money liau?
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Apr 21 2009, 12:46 PM
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Apr 21 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(StupidZ @ Apr 21 2009, 03:09 PM) Yes, I think just fill in the red form (Jualan Balik), like normal saving account withdrawal, then can get the money. Humans are like that. When it's not your money, you buat kerja sambil lewa. But when it concerns you and it's your money, gigih !!------------ But this arise a new question to me, if someone sell back the unit (e.g. 10000 units), so there should be 10000 units available for other peoples to grab, right? But how come today when I go ask for ASW2020, the person in charge didn't even check the system record, directly said not yet open for sell, wait for next release. I just want to check whether got at least minimum 100 units for me to open account first, then next week directly top-up, but unsuccessful. Can anyone explain on the buy-sell process for Amanah Saham? Actually you can buy ASW2020/ ASM everyday if there are people who sell out the units... But who in the world will have time to check for you? (more so if it's not his money and business to do so?) |
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Apr 21 2009, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(StupidZ @ Apr 21 2009, 03:33 PM) actually can be done one, but like I said, most likely they couldn't be bothered to check. The reason is most of the time they would be grabbed as quickly as they have been sold.Added on April 21, 2009, 3:41 pm QUOTE(H4RRY @ Apr 21 2009, 03:35 PM) The thing is most people don't take out their money. So, they usually don't bother checking for u. yes, unless you very kamcheng with them .. if not.. soli... taraMaybe you can transfer some of ur unit trust to others? This post has been edited by soul2soul: Apr 21 2009, 03:41 PM |
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Apr 21 2009, 05:18 PM
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Apr 22 2009, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(reevephon @ Apr 22 2009, 04:57 PM) hmm, lucky manage to bought 20k yesterday during lunch hour, but a bit weird last time 1000mills can last about 4 days, but this time only one and half. because they increase the maximum amount to RM20,000 from RM10,000 which effectively halves the number of people who can invest. Besides, they impose a 30% quota until 20th July, and that move restricts greatly the amount of units available.Anyway, mark down the date in July.... after they remove the quota, you may invest again at that time. Added on April 22, 2009, 5:03 pm QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 22 2009, 04:51 PM) You didn't read my post clearly mate. There is no more unit available for sale for non-Bumi as we speak. If you are interested in investing in ASW2020, you will have to wait till next Monday (27 Apr 2009) and you can invest a maximum of RM20,000 only. Yea, malaysia government is literally borrowing from the chinese to finance their deficits.Malaysian Chinese are known to have huge cash reserves. It is not surprising at all. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Apr 22 2009, 05:03 PM |
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Apr 23 2009, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE(blasto @ Apr 23 2009, 07:57 AM) it's impossible to 'trade' your units. As soon as you sell your units, some other people in malaysia would snap it up. There are people in the industry checking the system every minute to look for new units you know.ASM sold out as at 12.17pm Wednesday This post has been edited by soul2soul: Apr 23 2009, 11:04 AM |
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Apr 23 2009, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(adymfi @ Apr 23 2009, 12:15 PM) So, if you afraid that the Malaysian government literally borrowing the chinese money to finance their deficits, you may put away the money at another fund in Public Mutual perhaps. The non-bumi fund only 49% only maa.. What a sceptical thought.. no lar , i think government very smart in terms of finding ways to finance their deficits. Instead of borrowing from outside, they borrow from their citizens...something like the War World 2 bonds in USA last time. This post has been edited by soul2soul: Apr 23 2009, 01:49 PM |
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Apr 23 2009, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Apr 23 2009, 02:40 PM) Why can't they make the fund first come first served like Sukuk or BSM ? Quota system is so yesterday. Survival of the fittest. Early bird catches the worm. I think it's fair. you can see the amount of cash among the malays and indians... obviously not so much.... The government wants to give them time to buy also mah... Give and take.... |
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Apr 23 2009, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE(htt @ Apr 23 2009, 03:18 PM) One thing to notice is, our government had been in red for years, never come out. So when we laugh at US, we forgot we are similar to them (government only, Malaysian kedekut). I thought we have been in red since 1998.... running on deficits.... but better than zimbabwe lar |
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Apr 27 2009, 02:25 PM
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went around 11.45am to withdraw money.. during lunch break to pay income tax. Went inside Maybank ..... HAVOC!!!
One chinese lady just screamed at the managers when she cannot open any account ... feel a bit malu lar this chinese like that.... show some courtesy lor... not the malay staff fault mah.. they all only makan gaji only.. why so racist ler? |
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Apr 27 2009, 02:48 PM
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I think the reasons why ASW2020 sold out so fast this time is
1. Sufficient notice - 1 week government announced in advance. This gives time for people to break their FD and get enough cash to be invested 2. Increased limit from RM10,000 to RM20,000. This automatically halves the number of people who can invest in ASW2020 assuming most chinese top up RM20,000. 3. Low Fixed deposit rates. People take out FD to put into higher yield ASW2020. Added on April 27, 2009, 2:51 pm QUOTE(H4RRY @ Apr 27 2009, 02:39 PM) I waited from 8.30am till 11.50am when the lot is finished. At post office, used to have zero people lining up, now got at least 30++. On the day of ASM start selling, I was there asking about ASW2020, the officer said can buy ASM, regret didn't listen to him. Got 2 person in front of me when the officer announced it is finished. Damn, waited 3.5 hours for nothing. I put my money into ASM last week because I anticipated this problem today.This post has been edited by soul2soul: Apr 27 2009, 02:51 PM |
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Apr 27 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE(storekeeper @ Apr 27 2009, 03:13 PM) Mean last time ASW2020 & ASM limit only 10k for individual's max deposit.? Now..20k pula.. Low FD rate, this one I really agreed coz after the recent (March'09) announcement from the govt makes most of the commercial bank's interest rate drop like hell. Receivable rate drop then Payable rate drop such as house & motor vehicle loan interest rate. yes, in september 2008, the maximum amount has been reduced to RM10,000 per account. But this time dunno why they increase to RM20,000. Maybe they didn't expect the response to be so good due to slowing economy. |
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May 2 2009, 09:15 AM
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QUOTE(clement8115 @ May 1 2009, 10:36 PM) good! you are great! at least you seek what is right. Bravo! Actually you should ask yourself this question, does the bank officer owe you anything? Do they have to sell it to you when they have their own priority customers to take care of? (who buy unit trusts from them, who take loans, helping the branch to earn millions a year)?Let me tell you all my story. I took annual leave to buy ASW units. You know what, not only those aunties making noise like nobody business and jumping queue, I got to know that the bank officer instruct the teller to do transaction for his/her family members first before opening to those who queue up for the day. It is because i saw a few application on the table where there is no one queing up at the counter doing transaction. How could this happened? Arrghhh!!!! You only show up during ASW2020 or ASM time, so you are not really a priority customer to them. (if you qualified to be 'customer'). Hope you understand the Bank's POV. They are all money oriented, business-sense, profit-minded entity. If got important customers ask their help, as a bank manager , would you entertain them over the aunties who only turn up twice a year but don't care anything about your business? But here you are, carrying RM20,000 cash making demands in front of the counter staffs who probably earn less than RM1500 a month and have hard time making ends meet. It's not even their money... if I were them, I understand why some of them just don't give a *amn about the customers complaints. Put yourself into their shoes, and you will see how sick they got with the constantly demanding, noisy, nosy and tiring customers. I was there at the bank (not buying ASW2020 but paying income tax), and I saw with my own eyes how difficult some of the chinese were. I did feel malu why some of them behave like that.... screaming at the counter people, arguing with manager, throwing application forms...some of them even made racist remarks.... This post has been edited by soul2soul: May 2 2009, 09:29 AM |
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QUOTE(GAIA2006 @ Jun 8 2009, 08:26 AM) Anyone knows if ASW/ASM is guaranteed by the government in case anything happens?For example banks are guaranteed up to RM60k per account based on the advertisement in the newspapar. I don't remember what it's called. Thanks! The government would never let ASW/ASB/ASM fail. The day PNB fails is the day malaysia becomes a failed state. When that happens, all the banks will fail too. |
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Jul 16 2009, 09:13 AM
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http://www.bernama.com.my/bernama/v5/news_lite.php?id=425484
20,000 units per account from 21st July until 27th July, and unlimited after that. Time to start camping in front of the post office already. |
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Jul 16 2009, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(Lawyer1 @ Jul 16 2009, 09:48 AM) People,...... think first before you buy,.... Always remember diversification ! Don't put everything into one basket. I am a noob in investment, and I am not a risk taker. I got burnt in stock markets, and I want to live a bit longer. The moving figures of KLCI and Dow Jones can make me get heart attack very fast. I sniff a danger here - gov't wanting so much money from us. ...... Added on July 16, 2009, 10:36 am QUOTE(1000 @ Jul 16 2009, 09:42 AM) Beside cash and IC, what other document do we need to prepare? to make things faster, photocopy your IC first (2 copies just in case), and go to the bank today to get a ASM form. Fill it up first.Should i go take the form (ANSB propectus form) before go camping, ha ASM giv how much % annually? average 7%? ASM average is more than 6%. It's definitely higher than the bank FD rate of 2%... This post has been edited by soul2soul: Jul 16 2009, 10:36 AM |
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Jul 19 2009, 11:00 PM
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ASM, ASW2020 is meant for the less sophisticated malaysians.
You want the aunties and uncles to invest in stocks, futures or forex meh? English don't understand, computer also cannot use how to trade ?? |
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Jul 20 2009, 03:32 PM
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Tomorrow is ASM day....good luck to you all.
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Jul 21 2009, 07:23 AM
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wah my mother lined up at post office since 6.30am. She told me got 10 people ahead of her, and now got 20 people behind her.
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