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post Apr 23 2009, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(soul2soul @ Apr 23 2009, 03:23 PM)
I thought we have been in red since 1998.... running on deficits.... but better than zimbabwe lar
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post Apr 28 2009, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(blasto @ Apr 27 2009, 11:40 PM)
when is the next heat coming ?
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Wait for re-open of ASM in July?
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post Apr 29 2009, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(yks8845 @ Apr 29 2009, 01:06 PM)
still a lot of unit for BUmi and Indian citizen to purchase,...if u are chinese..sorry that unit for chinese was totally sold out.

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I think ASW only have bumi & non-bumi, think indian are classified under non-bumi, means... yawn.gif
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post May 4 2009, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(howeijie @ May 4 2009, 04:37 PM)
I think government sure will have second round for ASM n ASW2020
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Not so fast I think.
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post Jun 10 2009, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(backislan @ Jun 10 2009, 09:01 PM)
hi guys,just want to ask u all,is it worth making a loan and save in asb/asm safe or not?cause loan from bsn start form 3.5% and asb/asm interest is 6-7% peryear? or just save bit by bit per month?appreaciate all the info cause thinking of applying for a loan,i'm a gov servant
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Those loan in the past made some handsome return. But no one knows future for sure... tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(backislan @ Jun 10 2009, 10:56 PM)
thats why i'm trying to get input b4 making the loan,what do you suggest?
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If I am you, I will take loan & buy. But subject to the amount I am comfortable with. Don't over invest. tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Jun 11 2009, 06:57 PM)
I strongly disagree with this idea, at least for the time being. There is no guarantee that dividend for ASM will exceed 6% next year. Due to the economic recession, I foresee the dividend will potentially go below 6%. It isn’t a good alternative to borrow money from bank in order to invest in ASM and ASW. If the bank interest rate is 3.5% vs ASM dividend @6% or below, you can only make a max profit of 2.5% only! You can simply get 2.5% if you put your money into FD x12 months.

ASB might be a better bet, as it may give special dividend. However, the net return won't be spectacular in view of the interest rate @3.5% and above!
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ASM no loan, I think bank only loan for ASB tongue.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(winner @ Jun 11 2009, 08:04 PM)
SV proposed that government to give partial loans for our Indian fellow friends to subscribe ASM.
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I think I shouldn't put one line comment that cause confusion to others.

My rationale:
Assumption:
- Risk averse personnel.
- No other equity or high.
- middle income, government job? Assume RM3,000/ mth.
- monthly investment (repayment of loan) constitute 10% of income (max 15%). RM300 repayment per month.
- Total unit buying, 12,085 unit (RM12,085)
- Interest rate, 1st year 3.5%, 2nd year 4.5%, 3rd year 5.5% (rising BLR? unlikely that much but I put it as the case).
- Return of 7% per year (i think that should be much higher, judge from history).
- No down payment, loan 100%.

Calculation:
By saving speed, one should have RM9,900 if he saved RM300 for 33 months (discard saving interest rate).
By 36 months (3 year), the amount should be RM11,139 (compound interest of 2% p.a. but no one pay you 2% interest when the amount less than RM1,000, I include that anyway).
By 36 months, the loan of RM12,085 should be fully repaid.
The difference is the power of leverage, not all leverages are bad, without leverage, we might not be able to buy a house until late 40s.
The calculation by simple excel spreadsheet.

Hope I made it clear. I did it for free, please don't hold me for responsibility.
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post Jun 12 2009, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(winner @ Jun 12 2009, 11:08 AM)
I'm not sure if I did get what you meant. Were you trying to say getting loan for ASB investment is a viable option?

As for ASM, should loans be available to investors, it is a bad investment, as mentioned in my previous posting. Your assumption indicating an annual return of 7% or higher is unjustified, taking into consideration
the dividend payout @6.25% for financial ending March 31, 2009. It is the lowest income distribution level since the fund started in year 2000.
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Yes, ASB, no ASM, I never heard anything like loan for ASM anyway, maybe I was ill informed on that.
Well, that's just my personal opinion, I ask no one to follow.
ASM? If ASM better than ASB then I wonder why Bumi portion for ASM can remained unfilled for so long?
6.25% for ASM but no ASB, mind you check the return of ASB before comment?
I think I would just put a stop here, I don't want to argue for the sack of argue...
Good luck and all the best...
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post Jun 12 2009, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jun 12 2009, 04:03 PM)
ASB and all AS something is a unit trust. But how come they always report profit while public mutual cannot report profit every year?
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Because AS are more on long term unit trust, actually the new unit holders are sharing profit gain using old unit holders' capital (share was dirt cheap 10 or 20 years ago, over the years, they keep much reserve for future return, kind of earning modulation, that's also why you won't see them distributing 20% dividend in a year or so, even if they made that.). Imagine they might still holding on some Maybank's share maybe at cost of RM1, you guess what's the yield now? But new unit holders will become 'old' one day also biggrin.gif

PB Mutual is higher in risk appetite. High risk high return always true (high risk high loss also true tongue.gif ). What they made immediately shown in the price (what they loss also).

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post Jul 15 2009, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Jul 15 2009, 05:33 PM)
ASM to release further units for purchase on 21 July

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIM...icle/index_html
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post Jul 16 2009, 08:20 AM

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QUOTE(simplesmile @ Jul 16 2009, 12:18 AM)
I'm new to ASM/ASW.
I want to understand why the rush to snap up the units.

If the return of ASW/ASM is less than 9%, then why not people but REITs? Can easily earn 9% return.

Is the income from ASW/ASM tax exempted?

Is the income distributed in cash, or units?
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Tax exempted.
Unit; if unit finished, cash. Anyway, unit = cash.
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post Jul 17 2009, 06:45 AM

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QUOTE(wengfreedom @ Jul 16 2009, 11:26 PM)
so buy ASM or AS1M better?
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ASM, personal opinion only.
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post Jul 19 2009, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(daveylee @ Jul 19 2009, 08:02 PM)
I have interest to buy ASM. BUt i dun know how to buy it.. ANy one can tell me/?? any document needed?
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If you are bumi, go tomorrow to bank (MBB/ CIMB/ RHB) or post office with 2 copy of photocopied IC & money (or equivalent, but money easier tongue.gif ). If you are Chinese, go Tuesday.
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post Jul 20 2009, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(yks8845 @ Jul 20 2009, 03:09 PM)
Sorry for annoying question here..

i am interested to buy ASM tmr...which place i can buy besides PNB?

i mean those agent place as mentioned in newspaper ? RHB ? CIMB? Maybank and pos office ?

Thanks..
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You already mentioned all the place you can buy from, then what else you want to know? tongue.gif
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post Jul 31 2009, 11:31 PM

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Think will only buy 100 unit to open the account, not going to Q on the first day also (if there is Q tongue.gif ).
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post Aug 1 2009, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(abarai @ Jul 31 2009, 11:47 PM)
i kinda feel the same. previously everytime asm or asw opens up, i'll be there queueing...but somehow i don't feel so hot about this one. i think i'll diversify to some other types of investments. (maybe even forex)
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You are not alone...
Me too feel a bit tak betul...
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post Aug 3 2009, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Aug 3 2009, 02:04 PM)
But through my crystal ball, I can see that you will be the first in line on Wednesday morning. Con or not con, there will be still a lot people buying this bond.
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Please give me the 4D number from your crystal ball... for next draw...
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post Aug 3 2009, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Aug 3 2009, 05:21 PM)
1818, sure kena one. But do not know which draw yet.
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Then I go buy BJ Toto better... tongue.gif

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