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PhantomThief
post Jul 14 2008, 08:31 AM

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I think a gaming mouse is only a necessity after you actually get one. Now that I have my Deathadder and DB3G, I really can't go back to normal mice. They feel horribly insensitive. Compared to moving the Razers, it's like trying to move a brick around. But before I got the mice, I was perfectly happy with some cheapo Microsoft mouse. Guess that shows the difference.
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post Aug 12 2008, 11:19 PM

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I use DA and DB3G, neither of them have failed me, though the DA did have a bit of a scratching problem with the Goliathus control I had. It's pretty much alright after switching to the speed edition though.
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post Aug 13 2008, 12:51 AM

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The mouse was scratching the mousepad, actually. Cause if you observe the bottom of the DA, the centre actually bulges out with the stupid piece of plastic around the sensor. That thing was scratching my Goliathus control to hell, so I changed to Speed edition.
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post Aug 13 2008, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(CasaNovaâ„¢ @ Aug 13 2008, 01:21 AM)
oh..wat u said only make me notice of mine..but my 1.1 doesnt scratch..thank goodness..u got add mousefeet?
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Nope, but going to. When my order of HyperGlidez arrives.
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post Aug 13 2008, 10:42 PM

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30 bucks, including delivery. Not too bad, since it's two sets of mousefeet, if I'm not mistaken.
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post Sep 4 2008, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Sep 2 2008, 08:23 PM)
eh, guys, which one better for claw grip gaming: razer boomslang or logitech g9? currently using deathadder but not comfy when gaming.. (especially playing high speed fps games like et wolfenstein) both almost got same price de...
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Neither. If you're a traditional claw grip player, you're best off with ambidextrous mice like Razer DB3G. Lachesis might be worth a try too, but it's quite similar to the Boomslang in the sense that it has quite a high profile so it might not fit your claw grip. The G9...well, read a few posts above mine to see the problems.

QUOTE(studwo @ Sep 4 2008, 08:13 PM)
A4tech X7 user reporting in ... hehe 3.2 K dpi
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Lachesis user, 4000DPI with 100IPS. tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2008, 11:20 PM

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I use full DPI when surfing, scrolling and other basic uses. Of course, turned down in gaming or it's near impossible to play. Btw, DPI and CPI, polling rate and usb speed, both pairs are two sides of the same coin. Just different terms that different companies use to try and get us consumers going against each other. It's quite retarded. Counts per inch, dots per inch. Whats the difference? Toh-may-toh, toh-mah-toh, poh-tay-toh, poh-tah-toh!

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post Sep 9 2008, 07:16 AM

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QUOTE(longpants @ Sep 9 2008, 12:10 AM)
Guys, i need a gaming mouse. Cannot tahan using Dell standard optical Mouse to pawn ppl in cod already. Keep missing targets. =.=

Planning to get a laser mouse but like so exp la. Saw the 518, but not laser sad.gif sigh. how how? need to pair up with everglide titan gaming pad- just got one recently.

i want less than 150 bucks with good ergonomics.
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Agreed. 2G laser sensors are far from being the best for gaming. Don't believe the hype, go optical! MX518 is still among the best mice of its class.
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post Oct 5 2008, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(majujaya @ Oct 5 2008, 05:15 PM)
Everytime I browse the forum saw the ipcam88 always fire on others brand. Feel very strange mad.gif
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He's commenting on his personal experience with the Sidewinder. What's so strange about that? What's stranger is that a guy with 7 posts who just joined today is making comments about what another member is "always" doing.

Back on topic though, my Lachesis at 4000DPI with 1000Hz polling only eats about 15% CPU max, and this is with other programs running in the background. Likewise for my DeathAdder. Maybe you have a slow CPU? Ultrapolling does tax CPU resources, but 30-40% is insane.
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post Oct 5 2008, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(tks068 @ Oct 5 2008, 10:09 PM)
guys i have a question to ask hope its not too troublesome ,

im thinking getting either MX518  or G5 , however MX518  is optical right? so i need opinion if laser mouse better than optical mouse?

i like the MX518  design and it suite my palm , plus cheaper lol ......

any difference between optical and laser mouse in terms of performance ?

hope u guys can help me out thx in advance biggrin.gif
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Optical is better than laser. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. The only advantage that laser has is a higher DPI rating. And when it comes to the difference between the G5 and MX518, we're talking about 400DPI, which is not too much of a difference. If you like the design and most importantly, you feel the MX518 is comfortable, go for it. There is no reason to pay more for the G5 just cause it's laser.

For differences, optical has better tracking speed. In other words, you can move your mouse quickly and it'll work fine. Laser mice tend to skip at high speeds. Other than that, the differences are minimal.
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post Oct 5 2008, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(somiao5625 @ Oct 5 2008, 10:44 PM)
The person on top of this post is partially right, no doubt he read alot of western gaming forums =P
The new generation of phillips sensors do well at low sens too, unless at a super low sensstivity like something 40cm/360 more ever more...
I doubt any local player play at that sense, if there is, do tell me, i would like to video that idiot who playes game with a 3 metre mosue pad =D


Added on October 5, 2008, 10:45 pmThe person on top of this post is partially right, no doubt he read alot of western gaming forums =P
The new generation of phillips sensors do well at low sens too, unless at a super low sensstivity like something 40cm/360 more ever more...
I doubt any local player play at that sense, if there is, do tell me, i would like to video that idiot who playes game with a 3 metre mosue pad =D
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Lol, this is true. But unless I'm much mistaken, the only mouse that uses the Phillips Twin-Eye sensor for now is the Razer Lachesis. I did a comparison of 1G and 2G laser sensors vs optical there, mostly 1G. 3G laser is another beast altogether, but I thought it might be pointless since there's only one mouse in that category biggrin.gif

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post Oct 6 2008, 02:02 AM

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Sometimes, it's the surface that is the problem. For example, none of my mice work on my desk anymore. Years of wear and tear seam to have worn down the surface so much that it can't be detected by the mice. So maybe that's whats happening in this case.

As for warranty, I'm not too sure. However, I think that the shop provides their own warranty while the 3 year would probably involve an RMA with the distributor. Again, I'm not sure, just guessing. Limited warranty is just a type of warranty.

If I'm not mistaken, the new MX518 is 1800DPI, while the first MX518 that was released (and thus the ones that were reviewed) were 1600DPI. At 1800DPI, there's even less difference with the G5, only 200DPI. MX518 for the win!
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post Oct 7 2008, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(xTraVagaNza @ Oct 7 2008, 05:28 PM)
hye..im sry to ask maybe some silly question.but im comparing razer salmosa,mx518, a4tech x7-748k. which one is ur guys preferred?i kinda like the a4tech..but i see u guys seems liking mx518 alot..
any suggestion?
thx..
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Razer Salmosa - Small hands, claw grip. Sensor wise, pretty much the same as the MX518. Except the light is infrared, so if you don't like the red lights beneath the mice, that could be a factor. Otherwise, the size and grip is the most important difference here.

Logitech MX518 - Bigger hands, palm grip. Optical sensor, other than that, very similar.

A4Tech x7-748K - No comments to make here, I'm not a big fan of their products. Though others swear by it.
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post Feb 22 2009, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(CasaNova™ @ Feb 21 2009, 11:15 PM)
the design is not bad. what sucks about the habu is the sensor. the placement of the sensor. google or check out gotfrag mate. a gaming mice is not all about the dpi. the ime3.0 n imo1.1 only 400dpi which does not have internal memory and gold usb connector n all. but why its used by the professionals ei?(i'm referring to professional cs players just incase)
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Not just the placement of the sensor. The performance of the sensor itself, in terms of IPS and max acceleration is very poor, typical of first generation laser mice. And also, an extra 200 DPI over the DeathAdder hardly makes it a superior mouse. For pretty much most purposes, it makes no difference whatsoever.
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post Feb 22 2009, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(Wolffeh @ Feb 22 2009, 01:03 AM)
Anyone here have a Lachesis and willing to answer a question?

Do you feel that there has been any improvement in your gaming since you started using it?

I'm just curious about how much of a difference gaming mice actually make.
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I've got one. It feels light, precise and responsive. The glide is great, and the shape fits my grip which makes it comfortable. It gives you a slight edge while playing. Most importantly, having a good mouse in your hand gives you confidence which can have a huge impact on your game. But if you're expecting to instantly get higher kill/death ratios and start pwning, think again. Unless you've been using an ancient, horrid mouse, it all still comes down to skill and a new mouse is not going to be game changing. But you will feel the difference, and for me, I'm never going back to ordinary mice.
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post Feb 23 2009, 08:27 PM

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I've tested the IME3.0 at autosurf in SS15. I don't like it much unsure.gif

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