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post Apr 17 2018, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 13 2018, 09:10 PM)
=.= ... I knew they gonna hike up the t8 premium tank ...... RM300 bucks with no discount.
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QUOTE(Catnip @ Apr 14 2018, 02:46 AM)
Now baru cleared stage 1 and stage 2 in progress...

my aim is to clear until 50% discount, but seeing that XP requirements is pretty hellish for average players like me...

now I have 420k free XP... keep thinking which tier 9 to unlocked: (tend to avoid tier X which is another credit sinkhole)

1. I witnessed several times that, Obj 705a & 705 being helpless against T110E5/S.Conqueror/Obj 268v4/other fast heavies, their turret traverse and hull traverses too slow...

2. IS-7 being ammoracked by my FV4005 AP with DeadEye perk, and the occurrence not consider super rare

3. Grille 15, being hit by my T8 prems easily due to its tall profile (feel borsig is the best T8 TD with 750 alpha)

4. Maus bounced my FV4005 AP hits from the side after angled just a bit. Maus is definitely a monster with a very smallweakpoints which is hard to aim without taking damage from Maus...

5. FV4005 HESH is getting more useless after first strike on enemy scouts, AP ammo with deadeye perk have a much higher chance to be useful for team...

6. I can anticipate Italian T8-T10 will be competitive enough when current meta is focus on High PEN + good reload time, Italian's auto-reloading mechanics is very flexible, my Mauerbrecher is 100% bullied by Progetto in distance + speed + semi reloading advantage with high PEN hits. It made me feel like I being hit by FV4202 on steroid + autoloading rapid hits while unable to fire back in distance...

now I am torn between T95 & STRV-103-0 as tier 9, both of them have their very unique personality & playstyle... or any other special & decent Tier9 which I can spend freexp on it...
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post Apr 17 2018, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 17 2018, 01:29 PM)
I would pick t95 because of how insane the tank can guard 1 line, but its gonna be a super slow tank.

In battle field it depends on how good you are able to utilize different aspect of the tank you are driving. In the hands of very pro player its not easy to pen ....

In this game I feel like the tank that can do most is light tank, like BC-t series ..... or t54 ........ LTTB, etc ...... reason why is in t8 good enough pen, small profile ...... a lot of maps got pocket of bump that is good enough to take cover on the move. With good acceleration and manuverability they can pick out tanks that went solo, or hit camping tank that wasn't aware .....

but of course it will take a lot of practice before you could master the skills of using its speed to bully slower tanks .....

I had a few games where I took out 7 enemy tanks 1 - 2 tier above me and still not able to get Master ....... even after reset every week. That's a sign that a lot of pro is also playing the tank every week.

As for that progetto I feel that it might have been over hype by WG ..... auto reloading is like a lazy man's switch sure if you get flank by 1 you are going to loose a lot of hp, but their tank can be pen by most of the guns and they are pretty tall for their class ...... I constantly able to ammo rack them with O-HO's glass cannon gun and I find that their tank can easily get rack by HE shells ....

So if their gun take dmg or ammo rack their reloading time become insanely long, which force them to just back up and camp .......

If you can the next time if you see 1 try HE and see if they still bold enough to stay at the same spot or not  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(damnkids01 @ Apr 17 2018, 03:38 PM)
t95. period. current meta a lot HE better dont go for strv
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Thanks for the advice, guess I pick T95, as HE doesnt really kind on 103-B... and that Quad tracks drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

Very soon, I need to at least unlock 120mm gun using freexp, to avoid painful grindings as usual for most T9 tanks... 120mm supposed to be competitive enough to be useful while grinding towards 155mm right?

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Duno why I somehow really prefer those tanks that going all the way to the extreme:

FV4005: Sacrifice almost everything for Biggest alpha gun and 1 of the best stock AP PEN
T95 : Sacrifice the mobility severly, but gets a scary gun + imba frontal armor + pretty good camo for first strike.

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1 of the first TD that, repairs always > camo, AND clutch braking > offroad driving...

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post Apr 17 2018, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 17 2018, 05:56 PM)
I would recommend equipping heavy spall liner, because you are so thick its every hard for enemy to pen you especially moving front, with a few exceptional tank that has 310 pen and above ....... everyone is gonna spam HE at you and spg gonna make you their top priority.
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Enhanced Coil + Spalliner + toolbox first? since coil needed for supporting 120mm without upgrading the tracks first? Rammer is not so needed on 120mm I suppose?


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post Apr 18 2018, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 17 2018, 06:30 PM)
I don't think you would want toolbox, cause you are slow you are not going to move away fast enough before getting 2nd shot by enemy.

Reload in this tank with top gun at 3.28 also not gonna help you much cause your tank ain't gonna dash out dmg as fast as other tank .... I would pick fill tank with co2 so HE chance of setting me on fire is even harder and just troll enemy into spaming bullets on me.

But I think anyone with a t95 in this forum would have a better perspective then me since I don't own one.

I hate facing t95 most of the time but I notice there are module difference as some t95 are so easy to set on fire with HE while some others are just doing 10 .. 20 dmg to them with HE.
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Red: Engine + Fuel Tank

No wonder, either engine fire 20% or else so big fuel tank area with thin side armor... Almost hinted, preventive maintenance perk + CO2 fuel tank + Spallliner are badly needed rather than EGLD/VENTS/Rammer.

Its front is pretty solid, but not its roof & sides... thats why arty pose more threat than flanking mediums... Since the buff T95 able to steer way faster than Brecher.

120mm is good enough to start the 150mm gun grind? or I directly spent some cash to free XP the top gun as well?

My current regret list:

Churchill 3 (Feel like kena cheated RM30++ as it is my very first premium tank to grind until my KV-2, it sacrifices everything for rapid machine gun shots with 0 PEN)
Obj 252U (the glacis plate is too big and armor sometimes trolling, macam punishing myself buying tier8 prems let tier 9 and 10 bully... gun handling sux I ever met among all my tanks)
Skorpion G (Gun trolling on me despite 0.29 dispersion, gun-shield is too big tall profile and always being exploited by enemy sideway peekaboom, enemy always get me twice trading my 1 shot)
M4A1 revaloise (this tank is decent for ridge line MT hunting, but I regret to put a female crew on it)
Blackdog (not much interest on LT for now... Tanks like progetto/Sheridan/T49 and autoloaders always bully me, HEP sometimes trolling me at some critical times)

My current "feel baloi" list:

Mauerbrecher (cool design fact + Quad tracks hands down, its gun handling and its flat armor ricocheting performance are GREAT even though its full of weakpoints, with superheavy spalliner lagi imba)
Alpine Tiger (I get a pike-nose IS-6 version with a 250mm gold PEN heavium, without the IS-6's slow top speed & pathetic 217mm gold PEN, at the cost of RM60++, apa saya mau lagi???)
STRV-S1 (my current most active sniping TD, some ppl might prefer turreted TD, but this tank's siege more with 8 km/h is way better in sniping enemies & retreat safely, its gun can snapshot with 0 gunbloom!!!)

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post Apr 18 2018, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 18 2018, 12:11 PM)
Idk for me I wouldn't rush t95 ...... cause the next one t110e3 not famous for trolling ....... and on top of that its using the same gun except a bit higher pen. It sec super turtle for mobility.

Don't get fooled into thinking the cupola is easy target ...... 7 out of 10 shots with AP or APCR don't go trough.

120 should be decent if you don't like the stock ....... for me I would just play with the stock, cause the t95 is to train how to be a troll ......... not rly a dpser.

as for vehicle, I don't have a regret list ........ my fav tank is skorpion G ..... 912 match so far ...... in my opinion its like a mini jagpanter 2 ... as long as enemy trying to close up distance I get to punish them with heavy punch. Even skilled scout can't weed me out in mid range. The gun is a bit trollish at times but I made a lot of high tier tank cower in fear especially those that rush  laugh.gif .
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For T95:

1. Noted, I shall only free XP the 120mm as 105mm stock PEN is too painful to grind 51k XP (1 sec reload difference but loses too much PEN)

2. Will use Enhanced Coil springs to temporary provide tonnage for 120mm, until 150mm + suspension module grind is done.

3. Equipments will be Coil + Spalliner + CO2 (rammer doesn't improve even 1 sec reload) until the modules grinding is done.

4. Oh I not really worrying direct shots on the cupola, more worry about HE from Arty hehe

5. So far no plan going to T110E3 cause I don like its armor layout and design is ugly to me... T95 Quadtrack is awesome~

For SKG:

Its true it will made enemy higher tier feel the fear, provided only if your team MTs/LTs doing a good job on halting the advance of enemy wolfpack or made enemy hesitate in distance... High Alpha high PEN at the expenses of armor + camo...
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post Apr 19 2018, 02:39 PM

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After do some checking & compare:

I have 3 options to get my hands on T95:

1. Shortest route from T3 HMC to T28 => 220,090 XP
2. More expensive route from hellcat line to T28 Prot. then T28 => 333,090 XP
3. T2 Medium tank line transition to T28 => 279,305 XP

TD route:
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MT to TD transition route:
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Pro & Cons:

1. Option 1 is the cheapest way to T95, but no other tech line open up.
2. Option 2 provides another path for T110E4 grind without the need of grinding tier 3 and 4, but at the cost of 110,000 XP, but you do get the T28 Prot. & T28 together.
3. Option 3 opens up the USA MT line & HT line, but at the cost of extra 53,785 XP in order to reach T28

Which route should I pick?

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post Apr 20 2018, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 19 2018, 11:02 PM)
I usually don't focus on picking the shortest route .... to me more important is the journey ..... everyday only like 1hr to play I don't want to play in a tank I hate. I'm having lots of fun in t67 now.
Also ...... anyone having internet issue? Ever since ytd my connection not stable, keep jumping up and down and screen jerking, very hard to play ...
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Currently I am using Maxis broadband, when the clock hits 2330-0000 onwards very spiky between 80 ping to 500+ ping...

I will start practicing early morning tanking to check the connection.

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Yeah I am actually more lean towards T67 line as I like that super sneaky open-top scout/TD a lot... It will be slight more costly to unlock T28 prot line if I were to get both T30 and T95 at a shot...

How do you think on current T28 & T28 Prot? From the stats on paper T28 Prot. its has everything better than T34 except mobility...

Comparison:

Wolverine to T28 => 333,090
T67 to T28 => 341,160 (additional 8070 XP needed)

From T67 to T28 is the most expensive option to reach T95, but in this way I can get T67 + open up a path for a turreted T30...

Now struggling between opening up other options VS cheapest XP cost to T95... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Apr 23 2018, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 21 2018, 12:45 AM)
T28 prot is actually quite famous, the front is decent and the size isn't big ...... its a comfortable tank to graind both, but personally I wouldn't graind T30 cause its similiar to T29 and T34 ..... which I have played. the problem with this model is although you have a thick face your haul is cake pen, at high lvl its a bit fustrating cause not everytime you get to find good spot to haul down.

In t9 and t10 match your thick face can be pen by all the famous TD direct too, so making haul down like playing in a t8.
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Got my T95 and start grinding since Fri night!!!

Made the choice of spending the least free XP route to unlock T95...

Still using 122mm with Enhance coil suspension to grind 155mm tho...

My advice on this beast after using it for a couple of game:

1. Get its engine upgrade first if you havent, engine is more important than the suspension. Stock engine is terrible (T28 user wont feel this pain...)
2. 2nd get its main 155mm gun asap, 21 degree of gun arc + terrible gun traverse takes a lot of skills for using 122mm to aim at enemy weakpoints + wriggling to avoid being shot, all that for 400 damage only.
3. 155mm gun not only contribute its shock factor to stop enemies to advance, it increased the Zoom turtle's total damage output per game a lot as it don't have many chance to keep brawling with tanks...


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post Apr 23 2018, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 23 2018, 02:32 PM)
Lol ...... You skip all the line just to be in t95?

Anyway ....... how much discount you have on the projetto now? I'm at 50% but after seeing them in battle field I don't think they are worth it, sure it could surprise and kill lone wolf .... but its sitting between a MT and an autoloader firing capabilities ... what suck most is it punish you for spamming bullets ...... so if you ever get caught against an autoloader you gonna die rly fast. Also pretty easy to pen them. Looks like a so so tank only. The autoreloader is kinda gimmicky.
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Yea this T95 might be the last tier 9/10 tanks that I use free XP to skip all the way... other tier 9/10 tanks not really my taste cause generic design & no unique personality...

FV4005 = Go Big or Go home with massive gun
T95 = Massive armor + Massive gun to breakthrough

Both of them the play-style totally opposite with the traditional TD... If I want to play traditional TD, might as well as going for STRV series (perfect sniper for binocs + net)

About the progetto discount, currently working on my way to 50%, I feel its baloi if 60% discount which is RM120++ ... progretto is actually pretty kacau against slow tanks & excel in Hit&Run tactics...

Italian reloader cannot be compare against autoloaders, to me it is actually better than autoloaders in term of catching golden opportunities for more kills.

A lot of ppl compare it to the autoloader, which is wrong from the beginining:

1. cause autoloader need full drum swap reload, so cannot compare the same way

2. on paper it seems losing about 40% of the autoloader damage burst if compare to lorraine40T, in my eyes it has a good 720HP burst potential to finish dangerous melee brawling or mid range enemies

3. It makes the tank so flexible in engaging multiple enemies & enemies wont dare to charge at you if their HP is 720HP and below. On Lorraine40t I will take my chanec to charge cause I know I will win when I able to bounce some of lorraine shots and lorraine went into reload drum mode, Progetto still can fire back to me like normal single shot tank.(longest reload time for first shell.)

4. Progetto benefits from rammers(quite a lot)

5. I don't have any autoloaders yet, but I already can feel how flexible and powerful progetto can be, than lorr40t in supporting the battle

6. 1 on 1 still progetto win lorraine40t (3+3 shots with 30-33 sec reloader VS 4 shots with 33-35 drum reloader)

7. the only 1 thing I really feel not baloi is, 240 alpha but with 212 PEN????, in tier 8 prems, I feel they need at least 220-230 PEN in order to do damage on tier 9-10...

TL DR;

1. Progetto lose 40% of burst fire if compare to Lorr40t, but its flexibility outshine its loss of burst fire.
2. In total DPM Progetto still wins Lorr40t
3. Progetto is Hit&Run, Lorr40t is Hit Until destroyed but 33 sec reload you miss a lot of chances, while progetto gets to shoot single shot at least.
4. Aim time & intra clip reload => Progetto wins a chunk, I feel its much more sneakier than Lorr40t
5. I duno what to feel on FV4202 anymore after this Italian comes out...

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post Apr 23 2018, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(damnkids01 @ Apr 23 2018, 04:36 PM)
play the t95, face them upfront, and see them cower in fear of the doom turtle! biggrin.gif
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once they see I am using 122mm instead of 150mm... they wont fear at all hahaha cause gamble taking 1 hits from me and try to flank me~

120mm to 150mm grinding is so painful... Top Gun free XP is a must...
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post Apr 24 2018, 10:10 AM

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After unlocked the 155mm gun finally:

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The PEN and alpha instantly boosted into 2.4k and finally I able to fight tier9 and 10 tanks with its decent 276 PEN...

I am so worried my recent performances at the weekend is caused by my poor skill of driving T95...

T95 with 122mm finding enemy weakspots while moving: More challenging than using FV4005 and survive...
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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 26 2018, 02:15 AM)
This anniversary so nice ..... x5 exp 1st game, 2 day premium, maximum bonus consumption ....... Manage to get the jagdtiger, IS-M and ikv 90 b laugh.gif
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Part 2 announced

6x Special 'Summer' Camo
6x Special 'Winter' Camo
6x Special ' Desert' Camo
12x Anniversary emblems

1x Garage Slot
1 day Premium Account time

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Btw, I giving up Progetto... 40-50% discount with stupid bundle price is not worth for a 212 PEN with 9 degree of gun depression. At least M4A1 ravioli still have 390 alpha and can snipe from sides. Unless they decided to release Vanilla Progetto with garage and applicable with discounts.

If I am looking for Autoloaders with short drum reload CD, I might well as focus on T57 line grinding with Premium accounts. Planning to trade my SKG/Ravioli to T34...

STRV-S1 imo still the best T8 prem for adapting T9-10 matches...



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post Apr 27 2018, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 26 2018, 06:39 PM)
A few of my expert pal say the progetto only worth if you are very good at medium tank battle and fairly familiar with the timing ..... I have lots of match where they spam bullets and end up getting rush after the 3rd shot because enemy counted.

As for the T57 ...... I would actually recommend karnvagn instead. A bit less pen compare to the t57 but trade for better face armor and a troll in haul down situation. I find t57 cheek too easy to get pen most of the time when it comes to trading.
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Not sure about progetto's turret/hull layout, but with 212 PEN and 240 alpha, I rather play FV4202 (which I just sold due to anemic alpha but still good 230 PEN) at least its turret is pretty solid when doing ridge line sniping, no point to keep staying at a point but keep dinging on tier 8-9 enemy weakpoints with so-so shell velocity.



M4A1: 200 PEN APCR with 1.4k shell velocity (great for sniping scouts/MTs), can do heavy damage on HTs/TDs when flanking.
FV4202: 230 PEN AP with decent shell velocity (great credits against all type) due to its gun handling
Progetto: Have to stay in a place for 6 secs to dish out some decent damage with a huge chance of RNG dinging on ppl weakspots.

There is a reason why I stick to M4A1 due to I am just an average player but I wont buy this Italian tank:
- M4A1 significantly cheaper and tradable (no stupid bundle & 30% discount is not uncommon)
- T8 medium prems for current MM setup, Alpha/PEN/Shell Velocity need to in a good balance in order to survive & print credits, medicore alpha + medicore PEN definitely a bad idea for T8 prems.

The key of rushing a progetto: counting ur own HP then charge at them hahaha, unlike lorr40t need to count shots/reload time

After considering all the factors of autoloaders & perks of each line, T57 remain a solid choice as in:

1. PEN/Gold PEN superior
2. Reload time significantly lesser
3. T57 line you can get a decent autoloading tier 9 MT, T54e1 (more variety per line is good for mission)
4. Emil 1 & 2 very similar but seems better tier by tier

Well until I get another 2 female crew again, otherwise I will still stick to my T95 & FV4005 (0 female crew in reserve now)

Other paper TDs: Shoot & hide
T95: Shoot & tank in the face until camo kicks in again.

The only bad part I feel so far is low engine power on slopes. Other aspects I am very satisfied.

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 27 2018, 01:02 PM)
They always treat asia server like sh*t one, among all counter part I think asia server no say, only follow ..... just look at how fu*ked up chrismas event was, EU and NA get deco, we for some funny restriction cannot get and yet they don't bother enough to change or compensate asia server due to this. That means EU make game changing decisions, NA make commercial changing decision, asia is only yes master.
Well in my opinion the progetto is more of a recon flanker, not suppose to go face to face against heavy with a pen more then 225, cause that would mean 80% of the tier 8 will be a no match against a MT autoreloader that could butter most of the HT's HP in 3 load at the front. That's like bringing a sniper spg before their dmg got nerf. Certainly crazy and over powering. Their intention is just to give this tank support ability with a gun that seek opportunity.

For me the reason why I skip this tank is because I'm ok in mid range fight, but the size is much bigger then the current MT that I enjoy, which is the T-44 and I prefer a solid average reload then unknowingly fu*k up my shots when I get too excited. So I am most likely just gonna graind the tree instead of having the premium.
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Lorr40t: 230 PEN, I would rather buy Lorraine if I want decent PEN with good alpha. This is why progetto's price maybe should set to the same lvl as M4A1 ravioli or slightly more expensive instead of that stupid bundle.

Yesterday many of my T95 games, Progetto always very fast die or die in a very stupid way... players always overestimate tank's reloader mechanics thus overwhelmed, reloader mechanics are supposed to provide flexibility instead of replacement of auto-loaders.

Nowadays, without having 1 or 2 female crews for commander + drivers, I will not explore a new tech tree line~ repairs/camo/sixth sense/clutchbraking/off-road too important to miss...
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QUOTE(Catnip @ Apr 27 2018, 10:13 PM)
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Walau eh, I wish I can get that bicycle!!! spent RM200++ for the BERLIN version but its bicycle stacked at back... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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As long as it doesnt bundle with all the stupid stuffs, I am ok to apply the disocunts, but -30-40% for Progetto simply NOPE...

QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 30 2018, 11:52 AM)
This tank a lot of noob spammers .... I have bait so many to spam 3 shell then bully them ......  laugh.gif

Its a good mid range fighter at the hands of pro but very tau fu.
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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ May 3 2018, 02:46 AM)
Sigh...
Must look for updates on mods again..

What's this with the free external camo?
Didn't realise this as I camo'ed my LTTB and walker bulldog...

Then played after 3 week hiatus and got 6 sets of camo... Could have saved my money.. Lol

Are the free ones the same as paid ones?
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1 of the free summer camo sets out of 6 sets
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My handpicked customized camo: (50% discount)
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imho, these 6 sets of free camo good for smaller tanks such as mediums/lights cause it look quite messy even if you set forest/Summer free sets as Large on Large tanks.

Overall I like my handpicked ones more than the free camo sets.

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QUOTE(mowlous @ Apr 30 2018, 11:52 AM)
This tank a lot of noob spammers .... I have bait so many to spam 3 shell then bully them ......  laugh.gif

Its a good mid range fighter at the hands of pro but very tau fu.
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This progetto against my:

STRV S1: if he know to constant track me & wait for help coming in 3 shots, then I will die, if not, I will snipe him to death easily while he is dinging my autobounce hull
T95: I can HE finish a 500hp++ progetto with ease
252u: Progetto see me he will run, my lower plate is always thicker than his standard rounds
Revaloise: Whoever outspot wins.
Mauerbrecher: Progretto always bully my rear and tracked me, while I am unable to shoot back in time.
FV4005: 1 HESH shot always.
Alpine tiger: Can win but need to snipe progetto.
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QUOTE(jtan.pdr @ May 3 2018, 05:06 PM)
You are one scary person..
Stuff of my LT nightmares!
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LT is very tricky to play at tier8-10 games, as most of the MTs can sometimes outspot LTs in passive scouting due to super long view range. Thus I put my blackdog resting at garage first until WG decided to do something about current LT meta.

Among all my prems, Progetto can only bully my:

- Skorpion G - Progetto can easily hit my gun mantlet & retreat before I could firing back, without building cover, basically I am food for this tank.
- Blackdog - always lose to auto-loading meds in similar top speed.
- Mauerbrecher - Slow tank & turret traverse thus very vulnerable to Progetto flanking hit & run attacks.

My current requirements of prem tanks before I putting real cash in:

- Alpha/PEN/Mobility/Gun handling must be balanced enough to fight at least tier9 regular tanks, unable to fight tier 10 tanks is pretty normal
- Sniping type always > shell velocity top priority over alpha/PEN - Revaloise/STRV-S1
- Brawling type always > 220 PEN for weakpoints - Defender/IS-3A
- for Mid-range support Either extreme armor or else extreme camo for protection (Mauerbrecher/STRV-S1)

The only 2 functioning prems that I find a bit awkward: Skorpion-G & SU100Y - both need large covers in order to function well. Poor camoflage/huge profile and almost 0 armor, only for a massive gun with so-so handling.
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QUOTE(mowlous @ May 4 2018, 12:00 PM)
Idk ...... for me progetto never get to bully me while I'm in my skorpion g, cause he never get to find me in the battle field. Most of the time if I'm the last few to die I usually die in the hands of scout.

as for other tanks .......

E100 vs prog =  laugh.gif

Jagdtiger vs prog =  laugh.gif

Bc-t vs prog = lure him shoot, then charge and zig zag when he is at the end of his last shell, run around him and make him small.

T44 vs prog = this tank can out trade the prog because of fast treverse speed. Pop out, snap shot then pop back in and usually he will miss especially if you are behind a cover. But if you get track and he spam then you'll get punish for 50% of your health

obj 257 vs prog = your tank can cut them like butter, just make sure you don't give your @ss.

skorpion G vs prog = So far I had never expose my self to a prog, pretty sure in 1 to 1 situation at close range I"m gonna be dead, but if you ever get caught at mid range or close range by MT or HT you are dead anyway.

T-10 vs prog = t10 is a little dissapointing cause at tier 9 the tank is performing like tier 8, the gun only had slightly better pen but the armor isn't as superior as all their counterparts in the tech tree. I would say you'll have to be really careful if you are using t10 to fight. I just hope the new tier 10 they replace gonna be some insane beast.

e-75 vs prog = fairly good chance to out trade, just make sure you don't give flat side to enemy

jag e100 vs prog = well this will be in the near future, but jagdtiger already made them smell like burn mushroom at long or mid range, I'm pretty sure this is going to butter them so hard they jizz fire out of their hatch.

In any case the progetto is a mistake punisher, it will test your knowledge in close quarter combat as well as mid range combat. If you meet one its like a time for a test, how much you know about the tank, how much you know about YOUR tank, then it will depend on your reaction when facing one. I see a lot of new player from both sides, one don't know how to deal with them, another don't know how to play them. A trick that always works is to count their shots. If you see one happy trigger trick them to fire multiple shot, when they do charge at them, their reloading is so slow after the 3rd shot you can usually squeeze 3 shot to trade against his last reloaded shell. Unfortunately a lot of kids in battle field never count, after his 3rd shot still allow him to hide or camp to reload.

Most of the time I might spend on premium depends on how much threat I feel when I'm fighting them in battle field. So far the highest threat and the ones I hate to face is super pro skorpion G, especially when they are at long range, no matter what tank also might get dmg, and you can't see them, you might waste return fire and your team just too noob to spot them out, which is why in reverse I love my skorpion G so much, long range camping, noob enemy too afraid to scout, MT and HT charge. Boom ..... money drop like chrismas.
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My case if I met these 2 sniping tanks as enemies:

Skorpion-G - slightly rush a bit will reveal their location after they firing at me. Longer reload time allow me to breath and move away. SKG thin armor allow me to fire back with full damage
STRV-S1 - if spotted, some of my tanks shells will bounce on them when firing back. Flat ridgeline super low profile will make me feel frustrated to even aim at them. Their reload is insanely fast with good crew and equipments.

Me as user of both prems:
Skorpion-G - Gun always troll me at AP/APCR even though 0.28 dispersion, low shells speed and large turret bloom also hard to snipe fast moving target, firing without large covers to fall back is basically suicide high risk spotted.
STRV-S1 - High speed shell velocity with 0 gun bloom & fast reload always give me a more consistent sniping experience, & this series is 100% extremely excel in open areas. Even with small maps with buildings they still have autobounce to protect at least a bit.

Both tanks share a great trait: Able to equip camo net and turn turret without breaking the net camo. But STRV-S1 turn a lot faster with 0 bloom.

Btw, currently IS-7 line ginding is on going, but after I do some paper stats comparison, found out that 257 is much better than IS-7 as in:

1. shell velocity wins a lot (1260 vs 900)
2. tank traverse wins a lot (41.71 vs 29.2)
3. Terrain resistance wins a chunk
4. PEN is same as IS-7 (248mm vs 250mm)
5. more ammo (40 vs 30)

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post May 4 2018, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ May 4 2018, 03:42 PM)
True. I rather play obj 257. Feels like playing my obj 260.
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on paper stats imo:

260 is better than IS-7 as in: (tank traverse same)

1. Engine power
2. Gun handling
3. no penalty as crew trainer

Basically 257's mobility much better than both of these thicker armored tier X.

Because either how, in tier X games, almost all tier X TDs gonna PEN these 3 tanks anyway, with or without Gold shells.

Might as well as pick a better gun handling + trolling side armors + great mobility to outmaneuver the rest...

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