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 Would having a PhD/DBA deny you a job?, Corporate sector jobs

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post Jun 16 2015, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(juniortok @ Jun 16 2015, 12:00 PM)
I actually notice the reverse.  I found that many companies are hiring PHD now due to the Big Data trend.  I was just having a drink with the MD of an online hotel booking last week, they hire 6 PHDs just to try different things (marketing experiment, data analysis).  I dont know if he was drunk, he said that they pay these geeks US$300k p.a (not fresh grad, after a few years in the company).  As long as you have good technical skill and build your network, you will find something interesting.  I also know that various developers in China are hiring PHD to run their market analysis.  Multi-factor model, elimination of noise and factor analysis seem to be the trend these days. If you read chinese, this is what is on the internet - starting pay is around RMB 400-500k for fresh PHD grads:

碧桂园集团“未来领袖计划”,一个为青年才俊量身定做的高端人才品牌项目,旨在吸引:地产相关专业博士,由碧桂园高管亲自担任导师,通过系统的复合式人才培养模式,将人才在最短时间内培养成企业中高级经理人。现在已有诸多来自哈佛、麻省理工、斯坦福、帝国理工、新加坡国立等海外名校,以及清华、同济、浙大、东南、天大等多所国内高校的优秀人才加入碧桂园。
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I think there are some missing premises here. To have a meaning discussion on this topic, we should not forget the context in which these arguments / opinions are formed. First off, the answer is subject to which area of expertise one earns his / her PhD from. Yes, what you said may happen to some IT/ programming / software engineering / data analysts but it could rarely apply to say, history graduates. I think you are just this close to telling stories like some Wharton MBA holders earning really lucrative income --- what you say can be true, it is just that this is way too misrepresentative to PhD graduates in general.

Moreover, which school / lab one graduates from can make a huge difference. I for sure would not be surprised if any fresh graduates with excellent track of publication records from MIT, Stanford, Carnegie Mellon, and the likes get paid of 300k USD annual salary. Certainly, this is no longer news in Silicon Valley or many cities in California. Even Chinese companies, more than often, are biased towards graduates from elite universities.

One more thing, I can read Chinese and I could not help but suspect there is a slight chance you are doing advertisement for this group or corporation you mentioned, purposely or inadvertently tongue.gif


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post Jun 16 2015, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jun 16 2015, 01:48 PM)
a friend of mine has a phD and two master. he realised that his phD was hindering his hiring chance when he was told he was over qualified or missing out on interviews. after hiding his phD, he got many offers and now he's with Merrill Lynch
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While I do understand the reason why your friend do this, I just wonder how he gets away or explains the supposedly 'missing' say, 3++ years in doing PhD? Well, also that puts him in some sort of risk which I think he is willing to take --- for not being honest on education qualification can be a good reason to get fired, if found.
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post Jun 17 2015, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(cedyy @ Jun 16 2015, 03:19 PM)
understating one's qualification shouldn't be a serious offence i guess if compared to overstating one's qualification
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Well, I am not judging... in the end, the seriousness of this issue is up to the company management executives to say, not us. I am just merely pointing out it could be risky... after all, concealing qualification related information during hiring process can be interpreted as dishonest or even violation against certain policies. Just saying. Frankly, I am more leaning towards your friend and understand why he is doing this.

 

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