What I don't understand is this;

Prior to this RAM-Gate,
Everyone was like, uhh 970 is the best card and performs better than 780.

After discovering that the 0.5GB RAM is not the same fast RAM,
Uhhh now my 970 sucks and I need refund badly. NVIDIA penipu scammer

My question is that, has the performance of the GTX 970 changed after knowing the issue? If not, then why everyone cried for a refund? Or just people wanted to take this advantage to get a free upgrade to GTX 980 instead?

frankly, TLDR version of ram-gate

> users upset cos kenot muh 4K with 3.5GB VRAM


i do agree with the parts where GTX970 is still a whooping powerful card, just not at VRAM intensive games

I wonder if GTX970 will fully support Direct12 eventhough the spec said it does.

gsync also gimmick rite? AMD 4GB really 4GB?

hey guys, just curious, since 970 having problem about vram, so i was wondering, is it a  good purchase if i want to buy 970 or should i go with other cards ? Thanks !

Me, too. Having such dilemma.

I been changing back and forth from nvidia to AMD, I dont experience any problem with both. Dont get too attached to one company for no reason.

Reference cooler? There are better 3rd party cooler that done better job for roughly the same money so that is a moot point to bias to one side. Talking about reference cooler, not the entire lineup uses the same great cooler, for example GTX 760 uses crappy stock cooler that never ever touch the boost clock the longer you play the game.

You have Carbide Air 540, should be no problem using open cooler cards 

The GTX 780 launched at $650 MSRP while GTX 980 was $550, but 780's time it's 3.2+ ringgit per usd lor heh.

exactly. besides if we look at the performance charts, every next gen e.g. that usual 2 year product update, the usual performance change is usually roughly 15%

only some of their products had a huge leap in performance over the immediate previous generation especially when it's new architecture.
but it's not only fps % increments to look at, there are other feature sets that should be taken note of

- directx 12 (though not sure how soon the newer games will start having this)
- gsync support (still too expensive to own a monitor with gsync module. The only other alternative is free sync on ati cards, but i don't think their tech is as good as gsync)
- HBM (ati's product will be getting this sooner than nvidia by roughly a year ahead. Because nvidias volta HMC didn't pan out so they switched to HBM as well, so thats why they are slower than ati this time around) anyway this tech is vastly increased memory bandwidth which has been a long time bottleneck on gpus. Though it's presumed volta will be 2nd gen of hbm with even higher bandwidth, possibly double if the rumors to be believed.
- unified memory (sounds good could be a game changer)
- graphics technologies to improve visuals (physx, gameworks on nvidia)
another interesting development, now their saying pascal and future gpus could possibly add vram from a sli configuration. before vram wasn't a single pool. but come pascal onwards it will, but with some rules to it. games need to be coded to support it or something.

yeah but the cost.... even i don't have a gsync monitor unfortunately 

i use a Dell U2413 24'' GB-R led AH-IPS wide screen
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2413.htm
mostly because i watch anime and play games. Would suck for me having tn panel. A pro gamer would be more biased for a TN panel with a higher refresh rate 120-144hz coupled with a gsync module. Can't say i blame them, but we each have our own priorities 

so either a ah-ips or a tn gsync high refresh rate monitor for both roughly the same price (both expensive and yet your still sacrificing one thing over another )

Looks like it is less resource hogging when compared to FRAPS.

What's the recorded video size? The ones from FRAPS is huge which is a problem when one games on SSD.

I noticed that Shadowplay recording doesnt include interlay, like in the shadowplay setting. It should be able to show FPS and webcam interlay too.

i still don't understand why people still swear by vlc, when kcp has obviously become the best easy option    still can tweak further sure, but even the default presets are quite good already.

I was asking about the GPU coolers.
It is actually the normal temp due to the cooler design. I have also asked Cyntrix about this and they say its normal. But i just think that how can such an efficient GPU reach the temps of 83 degree. Just want to try switching the coolers since both the mounting holes on my Asus HD7850 and my Zotac GTX 960 looked similar.

Well, thing is its not a reference cooler. Here is the link My previous Asus HD7850 max temps at 63 degrees though so I don't think my casing airflow is a problem.

Nope mine is the normal version . I agree with you that the gpu should not reach 80 degrees since this is a very power efficient card.