I already bought FRAPS, that was before GFE and Raptr came out with video recording capability. Not inclined to spend again on another video capture stuff.

I'm not considering it because it seems to be able to record desktop as well, I don't recall being able to do that on FRAPS.

https://mirillis.com/en/products/action.html

Smooth Windows Aero HD desktop recording, easy tutorial creation!
Action! defines a new standard of performance
and user experience for real-time desktop
recording software. Record smooth high framerate
HD videos of your dekstop and applications activity,
add microphone audio commentary and create great tutorials with ease!

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so, the above advertised feature is not part of it?

on the features tab it says "30bit Windows desktop recording".

and

Video recording modes
- Games & applications
- Active screen
- Active desktop region

no idea, you have to ask TristanX or download the trial to test it out.

interesting.

I'm still thinking between that vs RAPTR vs GFE vs FRAPS.

ooops

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2887234/nvi...erformance.html

you must view the bus width in relation to the memory speed.

that also you need to consider the architecture. For example the R9 285 is 256bit but it is almost as fast as R9 280X that's 384bit with higher GB/s.

it's also quite common to see newer cards with lower bus width perform similar or better than old cards with higher bus width.

Before the GTX 960 came out I did predicted its performance based on memory bandwidth but it performed better than my prediction.

It's exactly like the R9 285 where lower bandwidth doesn't exactly take a hit.

Below is my test

card + setting	load temp on Furmark BIT
Palit GeForce GTX 960 Super JetStream (auto)	72
Palit GeForce GTX 960 Super JetStream (manual – full)	61

1. burn in card makes the card run warmer than usual.
2. the above is using a higher clocked card with custom cooler
3. above temps are taken with room temps around 25c.

From my experience the GTX 960 even on reference cooler shouldn't be reaching 80c on games unless
1. fan set to auto (not always the best setting)
2. casing airflow is not good
3. room is really really warm, as in above 30c.

Reference cards often run at lower clocks too, much lower than the one as on the Palit JetStream.

I'm currently running the card on folding@home with room temperature, fan duty at 42%. temperature holding at low 70s.

and what was your ASUS HD7850 was using? DirectCU II Top?

the above, i missed out one minor detail - room temperature for the above is estimated 28 - 30c now. air cond not in use.

so lousy? I used it for so long also never have this issue.

will let the GALAX people know.

that's because you're folding!



For gaming I don't think the heat is any much of an issue.

not all DCU2 are tri-slot.

as to how far a card bends, that depends very much on the build of the heatsink, how the heatsink is mounted and whether the card comes with back plate.

I got a feeling that a 970 Ti and 960 Ti might just appear soon.

There's a gap between the 960 and 970, and between the 970 and 980.

I feel that the gap's quite big.

Price wise (compare within brands), each of them has around an RM 600 - 800 gap.

Performance wise (based on Unigine Heaven 4.0 as reference) there's a 15 - 30 frame gap between each.

I don't recall any 960 that I can OC to 970 speed, as for 970 the one that I can OC close to the performance of a 980 was the GALAX 970 HOF and that costs quite a fair bit more than the usual 970.

You're right on that.

Looking back at what I posted (about 970 HOF OC) - I just realize that my post just echoes what you said,

The gap between the 970 and 980 is pretty much filled with the already existing High clock / High OC type GTX 970 that a GTX 970 Ti wouldn't make sense.

Yes, huge gap it is.

I tried GTX 960 SLI and it barely gives GTX 970 a challenge, which I think speaks a lot on the cards' performance.

Yes, as much I like the GTX 960 in performance and power draw, the price is often not attractive.

Anything above RM 900 is urggghh, those RM 800+ are just barely acceptable.

It's good to hold on for a bit, seeing that AMD's supposed to be announcing their line-up today. There could be price adjustments.

4K has jaggies............ if you look really close.

In the end the AA debate is rather pointless, actually you guys who say NEED also is about your preference.

4K screen so huge (generally) and from the distance I'm sitting, AA wouldn't be helping. And game time, no time to observe jaggies. They're not like CRT days when we play 1024x768 on 19".

Yup, usually set to 2xAA only, or none at all.

When actual gaming, really no time to observe all this.