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 ringgit Malaysia drop , how to I change my RM to USD

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Hansel
post Jul 2 2015, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jul 2 2015, 05:30 PM)
Back to b4 Fitch release report
1.00 USD  = 3.77716 MYR
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Hmm,.. so fast,.. well, anticipated this earlier,... see my posts these one and two pages back.
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post Jul 3 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 3 2015, 11:43 AM)
happy to say i got 3.77 before the fitch effect totally wore off.

now 3.7838.

today, will likely break recent low of 3.7843.

u know why...
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Congrats then,... AVFAN,... you were in time to catch the dip.

Anyway, wht we see on Bllomberg Finance or Yhoo Finance are the centre-points of the rates, very close to the Inter-Bank rates. An individual bank can put up its own Buy and Sell Rate below and above this 'centre-point', respectively. The diff between the Buy and the Sell of a particular bank is called the Spread. When you wish to buy the USD from, say Maybank,... you use the SELL number, because the bank is selling to you and you are buying from the bank. But if you have USD in hand after you returned from your trip to Washington DC, and you wished to change back into the RM for your local use, you look at the BUY number, because you now wish to sell the USD to Maybank who will normally be wiling to buy from you at their BUY rate.

That's the general idea, concepts are similar at the money changers too.
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post Jul 3 2015, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 3 2015, 04:47 PM)
Any idea which local bank offer the best exchange rates? I better exchange usd10000 before it hits 4. Need it to pay something next year.
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Try RHB,...

Wahh,.. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif if everybody in Msia starts doing what you are doing now, soon our kerajaan will impose some form of controls already. sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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post Jul 3 2015, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 3 2015, 05:44 PM)
Actually according to Gen-X a while back, the controls are already starting to be enforce.
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Can you show me the link ? How is it being enforced now ?

I do know that procedrs hav always been in-place whereby everytime we need to send funds out, we must fill-in the Form P for the central bank, and the transmiting bank will want to see some proper paperwork to justify sending the funds out,. like the institution invoice, or supplier's invoice,... Are you talking about this procedure or is there a new procedure being put in place or added-in ?
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post Jul 3 2015, 04:58 PM

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I think Ramjade needs to TT out the USD10K, so must use the banks. I know, I know,.. some money changers 'can do TT' also,... but that's being controlled now.

If Ramjade wants to have notes, then yes, I would agree that he tries the money changers,... try the ones at Sungei Wang in KL, if Ramjade is based in KL.
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post Jul 3 2015, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 3 2015, 06:16 PM)
no la... those discussions in fd thread does not relate to normal individuals transferring money abroad.
i tt'ed usd10k a couple of months ago, no problem, just a form to fill up.

u r planning for next year but w/o a usd acc in yr name, where to tt to?
u can use a trusted friend's account, that's one way.

buy n keep cash usd is not a good idea.
by n keep travelers check also bad idea, expensive.
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Tq for the input,... so controls are still not in-place yet,...

How would you know that he has no USD acct abroad ?
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post Jul 3 2015, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 3 2015, 06:21 PM)
if he has, why wud he ask questions here? biggrin.gif
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Well,.. he is not asking abt opening an acct anymore, just asking about changing his money,...
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post Jul 4 2015, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 3 2015, 06:29 PM)
No I don't have USD account nor am I in the USD. Just that payment required in USD. sad.gif

I am still open to ideas on how to open a foreign account.  tongue.gif That's why I am asking around, how to open an account in a foreign country. Don't tell me to fly to the US/UK. Too expensive. My best bet is SG, AU, NZ. At least have some backup in some foreign country.
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Are you a strong user (close client) of Maybank in Msia ? Quite some amt in Maybank Msia ?
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post Jul 4 2015, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 4 2015, 03:27 AM)
Yes. I am a strong user. All my online purchase goes through them. But unfortunately I am poor kid. When and apply for m2c last time at garden got rejected cause no salary. I don't have substantial amount in maybank. I put in money into there only when I need.

Most of money is locked up in FD, as1m (mother's) Right now I have about Rm45k in m2savers which I am going to use to convert to usd in 2 weeks time. That's why I am asking for bank with best rates.
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Try with Maybank Sgp. Tell them tht you are a loyal client with Maybank Msia. Let's see if they will open an accunt and USD FD for you. Plese PM the results of your try. One forummer earlier promised me to update me but after almost 2 months, no news.

Pls do update results.
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post Jul 4 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 4 2015, 09:23 AM)
Singapore?  There's no way no way I can go Singapore. I am not in johor. I am in selangor.

If you are talking about opening account in Sg,, then yes. I am willing to travel down to Singapore to open
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My friend, yes, go down to Maybank Sgp fro them to see yr docs. Bring all possible docs along. Go to the HQ at Battery Road. Try yr best,...
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No stopping th onslaught. Too many prbs at home and abroad.
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How much does tourism and medicl tourism contribute to the GDP ofMsia ? Do we have the numbers ?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 9 2015, 09:24 AM)
Why we want GDP growth?
Because we want to build up wealth, increase per capital income, increase purchasing power so that people are better well off across the nation and prosperous.

If the country need a weak currency to grow, indirectly means purchasing power is sacrificed,
which in the end of day, you have GDP growth but no increase in purchasing power, it is like a zero sum game already.
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If the currency is wek, the purchasing powr will be sacrificed ONLY IF the nation affected imports most of her everyday items. Othrwise, no. Thn this leads to personal inflation - if one uses mostly overseas items, thn his/her purcjasing power wil be affected.
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QUOTE(xftwww @ Jul 9 2015, 09:46 AM)
I have no problems with anything u are saying. From an economics perspective ure mostly right.

But that isn't what's happening atm. It isn't a case of weak currency leads to increase growth in GDP. Now it's a case of a depreciating currency AND a reduction in GDP growth. So... Using your game theory terminology, it's more like a negative some game. In out payoff is negative no matter what hahahaha
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I would call it everything negative for us now, don't know how to apply economics principles to wht that is happning to Msia. Corect in that point about us being in a 'negative sum game' now. sad.gif sad.gif Crazy... everything drops.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 9 2015, 09:17 AM)
Is a 15% component supposedly growing later be able to offset the slacks in the othr exports and industries, hence being able to maintain our GDP growth and trade surplus ? How long wil this 15% tourism and medical tourism industry take to offset ?
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QUOTE(xftwww @ Jul 9 2015, 03:01 PM)
Except prices and taxes biggrin.gif
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Prices and taxes positiveleads to negative effects for us, so we cant stop at increase in prices and taxes only. We need to look at the the metrics which affect the population wellbeing.
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QUOTE(xftwww @ Jul 9 2015, 03:11 PM)
lol. it was a joke.
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Sorry for the defensive statement.
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post Jul 9 2015, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 9 2015, 03:33 PM)
Even you don't buy import items, there may be inflation on local export goods, (set aside the issue that we won't able to escape from import goods, as in today world it is impossible to be self sufficient in every aspect of goods and foods)

Eg.
Palm oil is produced here and an export item.
When USD vs Rm was RM3.00, palm oil price may be RM2000.
Now USD vs Rm become Rm3.80, there may be increase in demand for palm oil, as it become 20% cheaper.
Increase demand potential higher price.
So export items also may become expensive due to market force.

Goods price is not dictating locally nowadays but overall demand/internationally.

If local price is too low and not profitable as compared to a better price in export, business will export the goods or elsewhere that have better price, so you have no supply locally until local up the price.
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Firstly,.. ther are things called export controls and excise taxes. Export contrls and Excise taxes ensure that the locals get the benefits of cheaper goods first before the foreign countries. However, again we go back to enforcement of the comtrols and the collection of such taxes. If enforcement is not good, the locals will stil not get the desired results.

The above controls are similar in principle to Import Duties being imposed to protect the local manufacturers.

"Now USD vs RM become Rm3.80, there may be increase in demand for palm oil, as it become 20% cheaper. Increase demand potential higher price."

I do not think the above can happen, why ? For in the first place the increased demand is not totally becos of true increasing needs of the commodity, rather it is an 'artificial' demand because of the exchange rate. Hence, higher price WILL NOT have a chance to kick-in. The moment the price tries to go up because the sellers are trying to mitigate the exchange rate problems caused by the dropping RM against the USD, the 'artificial' demand will disappear, causng the price to drop again.

Sellers wil want to up the price when the exchange rate goes against them,.. becos they are not stupid too. The sellers would know how to calculate in order to MAXIMISE their profits. Secondly, do not forget tht the ingredients required to produce the commodity may be imported. Using yr example here, it would be fertilizers. If the RM drops badly against many currency regimes, thn the cost of fertilzers wil go up, increasing the cost of producing the palm oil. Increased cost means need to sell at a higher price again.

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