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post Jun 17 2015, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 17 2015, 03:32 PM)
When people cant even take what AMD themselves say with confidence...tongue.gif
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Haha, just skeptical a little because they didn't show the numbers at E3 last night.

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2015, 03:34 PM)
Hbm reduces tracelines of memory controllers n pcb thickness.
So not suprising on the length

Interesting part now is how the gpu die tdp is gonna affect that vram stack. Its got to be smoking.
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Ya mang, that interposer gonna be hot as fak.

Anyway, how do you apply thermal paste? tongue.gif
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post Jun 17 2015, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 17 2015, 04:13 PM)
Thats what happened to me with titan blacks . When i used hydrocopper bios. Higher vgpu n clock for idle state.

Not sure about amd.
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Yup, when using 144hz monitor the card will use UVD clock similar when u're using multiple monitors. At least that's what happened for GCN1.0.
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post Jun 17 2015, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ Jun 17 2015, 06:30 PM)
Pricing by GTech Solutions (Hikari85)
Sapphire R9 Fury X 4GB RM4899
Sapphire R9 390X 8GB DDR5 RM2059
Sapphire Nitro R9 390 8GB DDR5 RM1569
Sapphire Nitro R9 380 4GB DDR5 RM1039
Sapphire R9 380 2GB DDR5 RM899
Sapphire Nitro R7 370 4GB DDR5 RM799
Sapphire R7 370 2GB DDR5 RM699
Sapphire R7 360 2GB DDR5 RM509

That FuryX price is definitely wrong. I think should be RM2899?
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Fakap as always especially at launch. laugh.gif
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post Jun 17 2015, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jun 17 2015, 07:18 PM)
waiting for fury nano...
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post Jun 18 2015, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jun 18 2015, 12:36 PM)
"Latest news..fury will have price drop to below 3K SRP"
i received this msg this morning.
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That's more like it. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jun 18 2015, 08:42 PM

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MSI R9-390x Gaming 8GB review by TTL.



Basically a soup up 290x.

Guru3D review - MSI Radeon R9 390X Gaming 8G OC review
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post Jun 19 2015, 04:32 AM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 19 2015, 12:45 AM)
2999 is fury price.
Still got two more tiers .. X air n x wc
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From GTech, RM2,999 is Fury X. Don't know whether air or water.

Hope it's not another mistake. laugh.gif
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post Jun 19 2015, 11:29 AM

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Apparently HBM overclocking is currently disabled by AMD.

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AMD will not allow you to overclock the memory when the first Fiji cards are released. AMD feels that the memory technology is too new and there is more than enough bandwidth, so they are locking down the ability to overclock the memory in AMD Overdrive. This might change down the road, but for the time being only the core clock can be overclocked by end users.

Sauce:


QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 19 2015, 10:05 AM)
Whats the magic on 390x other than faster vram???
Its beating 980.

Although most reviews using overclocked 50mhz units.

I trust hardwarecanucks more than anybody else.

980 20-30percent lead gone.
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Which benchmark you looking at? MSI 390x is clocked at 1100/1500, at that clock it's definitely faster than a stock 970 and close to 980 and at 4K it definitely on par or slightly faster than 980 in some games.
Most of the reviews didn't provide enough info, no average boost clock for Nvidia cards, no exacts settings for the game their tested.

I haven't tested the latest official beta driver but it's pretty similar to modded win10 driver i'm currently using. That driver have much less driver overhead compare to previous 15.5 and below.

I'm waiting for HardwareCanucks too and hoping they will include average clock speed graph like they did with 960 reviews.
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post Jun 19 2015, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jun 19 2015, 11:38 AM)
After seeing all fury X spec and some leak benchmark.
Should I pull my trigger?
Or wait for full review?
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Wait for more reviews. ph34r.gif
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post Jun 19 2015, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jun 19 2015, 12:18 PM)
I am just curious. Do amd lock the core and ram clock?
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Only the memory on Fiji, not sure if it's temporary or forever though.
I'm not sure if the copper base is actually touching the memory. Cooling the HBM is abit tricky because it's stacked, i read the bottom stack can only rely on the built-in micro bump passive cooling.

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post Jun 19 2015, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(sentlon @ Jun 19 2015, 12:52 PM)
I think the ram clock do not play important rule to drive up the performance. However the core clock speeds are the main things to boost performance
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Depend on games imo, most don't benefit that much. Some did though.
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post Jun 19 2015, 02:27 PM

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Sapphire R9-390x Tri-X review from HardwareCanucks out. Only 1440p and 4K though.

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Source: The AMD R9 390X 8GB Performance Review

I have no idea how this card clocked at 1050mhz can be on par or better than 980 in many games. Is it possible to disable GPU boost on 980?
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post Jun 19 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jun 19 2015, 07:29 PM)
Try looked at the tomshardware review of 390X. They put an oced watercooled 290X too to compare and not much difference between 290X and 390X, and the reference 290X lags behind. Also interesting is they compared it to stock overclocked cards such as MSI GTX 980.
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Interesting, although HIS 290x VDDC is identical but power consumption is much lower. Those extra 4GB use so much more power or the 390x chip they got leaked like a baby??
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No chance against aftermarket 980 that can boost so much. laugh.gif
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post Jun 19 2015, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Desprado @ Jun 19 2015, 10:02 PM)
It is a reference GTX 980 vs R9 390X OC so what you expect.

It is a cherry pick because most of GTX 980 owners run GTX 980 at 1500MHZ which is 18% faster than reference GTX 980.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jun 19 2015, 08:31 PM)
No chance against aftermarket 980 that can boost so much. laugh.gif
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post Jun 22 2015, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 22 2015, 10:20 AM)
For some reason, I really worry about AMD Fury product competitiveness.

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1. There's adapter for that, will be release later this year though.

2. 8Pack claimed you can easily overclock the card 10% over stock without voltage adjustment and sometime reach 1200mhz.

3. May i ask what software did the reviewer use? CCC have no voltage adjustment, MSI Afterburner is not compatible with Fury X yet. There's a concern about overvolting though since it can affect the interposer and HBM temperature as well.

4. It will be limited but i doubt they only have 30k for the launch.

6. No the tessellation performance is not specific to R9-300.
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post Jun 22 2015, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 22 2015, 02:12 PM)
You will need to do a chroma subsampling like what nvidia did before for 4k@60

Thats pretty impressive for 10% oc on stock voltage. I wonder how much is the stock voltage seeing all 390x now running at 1.2v

They can do legacy support like what they did for titan x etc. That need to ask unwinder

only way to confirm the numbers is asking hwlabs how many rads they shipped out
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Read about that but it need the monitor to support it too? I have no idea about these stuffs. sweat.gif
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1. HDMI 1.4 does support 4K @60 Hz

HDMI 1.3/1.4 can transmit 4K@60Hz using YCbCr 4:2:0 color instead of the default RGB 4:4:4 format - this requires half the bandwidth/clock and falls well within the 8.16 GBit/s bandwidth and 340 MHz clock limit in HDMI 1.3/1.4.

You need to ensure that both video card drivers and your TV set support 4:2:0 color subsampling (at least Sony and Samsung support it in their 4K TVs according to the Anandtech quoted above: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8191/nvidia-...support-kind-of). The image quality difference will be negligible.


Yeah that is pretty good overclock and i reckon pretty good performance gain too if overclock performance scale like Hawaii/Tahiti.

AMD and Unwinder.. like oil and water imo. laugh.gif

What if the issues is not about rads availability but HBM/DIE. I still not sure whether TSMC produced Fiji die or GloFo.
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post Jun 22 2015, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(antaras @ Jun 22 2015, 04:10 PM)
With GST?
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post Jun 22 2015, 04:38 PM

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Cool, now i only need to trick someone to buy my card for RM1k.
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post Jun 23 2015, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(tlts @ Jun 23 2015, 05:13 PM)
r7 360 good ka? is it an upgrade from my gpu?
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Same GPU bro, just YOLO overclock your 7770.

QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jun 23 2015, 05:25 PM)
yeah no reply today... ask "Consignment Number"  maybe busy.
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