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League GTR2 Malaysian Racing League, Round 8 Imola = 21st Jan 2007

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post Dec 29 2006, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(Redline @ Dec 29 2006, 10:00 PM)
ok will change the tire wear from 2X to normal....but will do that after no one practising on the server...saw 4 or 5 drivers practising now.....
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post Dec 30 2006, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 30 2006, 12:19 AM)
Yeap...i think NAP already put realistic tyre wear...like evo said, it can put another compound (hard) as an option. I think fuel usage is ok as 2x.

How about weather effects huh guys? heh heh heeeehhhhhh...(dry oso kenot now want rain...useless)

EDIT: wut happen to the test race? left 3 ppl oni?
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what to do, the race for us 3 guys is just plain too long. I decided to take a rest 10 minutes from time. Sakit belakang woi...Seriously the race will be more challenging for the mind and the body. Tomorrow go to work, sleep at office. tongue.gif

QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 30 2006, 12:33 AM)
if everybody is on high end PC, then we can have changeable weather... but if on mid or low spec PC, it will kill the FPS
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post Dec 30 2006, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 30 2006, 12:48 AM)
lol... preferably nvidia 7600 GS agp and need to upgrade psu also... i think the main reason why my GC went kaput.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  total noobie in PC gaming... that's why i sticked with console last time...

let me give an example why we need longer races...

eg: a race of 28 laps.. full tank - 14 laps

for example driver A can do 1 stopper with hard compound and a full tank ...he'll probably gained an advantage as he probably can skip the tire change and just take fuel. But he cant push too much or his tire will suffer.

driver B can do 2 stopper with softer compound with less fuel.... he can push all the way on track but will losses time in pit....
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The advantage and disadvantage of race strategy already in my book. But I hope the rest of the field understand them as well. If not the gap is going to get very huge.

Evo, 7600GS good choice already. Overclocked the proc? I did, mine was 3200+ 2.0 - now at 2.86 GHz, really help crunching those numbers faster.

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Guys i think we should just remain with the current format. Previous test race is just too long. There's still an excitement with the current format.

Just a suggestion, i hope we can have close gap racing as close as possible by having medium compound mandatory during the race. Just like the MSS series only allow medium compound tires for the entire event.


No icon_question.gif , I like soft tyres, the only thing to do with the soft is take care of it. To close the gap is to put penalty. Perhaps race winner must use hard compound at all cost?

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post Dec 30 2006, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 30 2006, 01:13 AM)
sabelt : that's why i'm suggesting 55 min race by abolishing warm up session.

pccrazy : thinking of that... but poket kering rite now.... if i cant settle my problem soon, i'll miss this coming race sad.gif

EDIT : i propose pccrazy n redline should be given a weight penalty.... tongue.gif tongue.gif
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Oh no, I sell my AGP already, otherwise will borrow it to you. Yup if warm up session abolished then good. Btw, I hope all racers understand the consequences of choices made during the race.

Me penalty? I think the GTR2 weight penalty system is flawed? But if race winners to take penalty for the sake of close racing I'm up for the challenge. The fun factor is first and foremost important agenda that we seek here. Kudos.

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Haha ok la i hope you guys can workout how to let the rest of the pack as close as possible just like in 1990's BTCC with many limitation rules....


Btw, the rest of the pack must keep learning the effect of setup one by one. Don't do to many things at once. One practice session for cambers and suspension, Another just for tyres, etc.

Differential although seems stupid, but one of the most important thing to keep the balance of your car. Adjust this first if you have trouble accelerating and decelerating.

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post Dec 30 2006, 01:38 AM

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QUOTE(Naka7a @ Dec 30 2006, 01:35 AM)
you guys know what is the settings for lambo in monza ?
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ask the race winner at monza-alan
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post Dec 30 2006, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(Redline @ Dec 30 2006, 02:17 AM)
lol....60mins can make me sakit pinggang & also to some of the veteran racer....

i think we should not change the current format....

but to make the game more interesting & to reduce the gap........

PCcrazy & Me will start from the back.....lol....are u OK PCcrazy? We do the test race 1st....if they tapau us then...no handicap lah....hehehe
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yup I'm good.

Guys we are professional simracer and I hope our ethics is also of high standards. Be it off track and on track. The manner in which we espoused our view must also be of high standard. We are men already afterall.

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Regarding weight penalty for the winner, tak tahu ler bagus ker tak....tapi kalau nak implement kena lah kepada yg finish podium position...
The question here is, is it really implementable?


Ask redline, He is the mastermind, The culprit and the transgressor. tongue.gif

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post Dec 30 2006, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(karom @ Dec 30 2006, 02:51 AM)
Guys....be prepare if GTR 2 succeed to become one of the games for WCG 2007. It is as i took a poll for the WCG 2007 poll. And GTR 2 was on the list among the other games.

I hope our champion will be able to compete with others....if GTR2 nominated.

Weight Penalty: Takleh takper la.....buat mcm biase dah la bro redline.

P.S: Hustler mestilah start dari depan......mcm schumacher ngan alonso...even diorang dominated the world.Takder isu untuk suruh diorang start dari blakang..hehehe...
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Great if GTR2 is going to be nominated, but I doubt it seeing the popularity of this thread to the masses.

As for starting from the back no problem karom, My motto - " I'm always up for any challenge". Lagipun we have to encourage the others as well. Give them chance to win and lead, so from there the motivation to be better exist hence positive results with the least interference.
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post Dec 30 2006, 03:15 AM

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QUOTE(karom @ Dec 30 2006, 03:13 AM)
Ala....tak best ler gitu....then naper nak qualifying cam tu..yg penting sakrang ni rasanya ialah create an environment yg mana race strategy is important.
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Karom aku tak kisah with whatever suggestion as long as it's logical and can be implemented. I have one brilliant suggestion though, Redline, go and drive the viper tongue.gif

Ron chassis tu mantap la. Momo punya steer angle, tak lenguh ker, I put books to make the wheel as very slightly inclined. Sbb klu inclined sgt macam bawak pakai steering bas jer.

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post Dec 30 2006, 03:33 AM

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QUOTE(karom @ Dec 30 2006, 03:24 AM)
Mcm bagi tahu tadi...
Duration:25%
Fuel:X3 or X4
Tyres:X2

nak kasi byk kali masuk pit ni.....heheheh
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I will try and formulate a proposal, with scientific reasoning of cos (if I'm capable lah). But green light is always needed from redline. Maybe perhaps I can discuss with redline or evo on this matter (my proposal) and get back to you guys.

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i tried maserati car just now..
wow...its easier handling compare to 575
but still cant get good time..
but better than 575 time..
Some cars are easier to drive but very difficult to setup. Some cars are very tricky but can do very fast laptimes. But overall I don't like 575 as well, it's quite easy to drive but difficult to go faster.

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post Dec 30 2006, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(kimi @ Dec 30 2006, 08:34 AM)
wow we are already close to 100 pages

cannot join u guys for test race last night, my downshift button double shiftin so goin merry go round all the time - that is the problem with homemade wheel using cheapo parts - but already fixed it this morning more rugged homemade switches (idea datang lepas subuh)

back to race format - i hope we dun go any shorter than current but 1 hour would be lotsa fun, n strategy can come in play

hey now that we can customize skins maybe should consider racing single make cars in the near future, the fast drivers surely be faster anyway but it will be closer dun u guys think?
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Agreed that's the only way I see as fair and true comparison of us. I pity the 575 racers, the cars are slow, I mean the MC12 which I drove is always consistently faster almost 1 sec than the 575 I drove. Maybe I don't understand the 575 as I can drive the 550 as quick as the MC12.

Homemade wheel, can show me the pic, maybe you can teach me how to do homemade clutch.

Check out the Mclaren GTR.

http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=277956

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post Dec 31 2006, 03:49 PM

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GOing for holiday with friends for a day. G.luck
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post Jan 1 2007, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(evoHahn @ Dec 30 2006, 11:07 AM)
lol banyak nak reply nih.... so bear with me lah...

pccrazy : its not the fault of aliens (including you tongue.gif) in our league who are fast, i know most of you practice very hard. so i guess the current culture of sharing setups is good to close the gap.

pre NAP 575 was the fastest car in GTR2. in pre league races, i only use the default settings (just adjust wings+ ride height); and i usually qualified on pole or in second place. and in our first race in Monza, i did crossed the line first, but was given a 20 seconds penalty... and the win was handed to alan.

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Thanks, but I'm still new and aliens doesn't describe me that well. I have just started playing sim with a wheel few months ago.

As for the 575, I'm glad that the 575 is actually quick at some of the tracks. Maybe Donington is just isn't its track.

Tried playing with mouse and reduce the steer sensitivity to 5%, Guess what, it's playable dude. So guys who played woth keyboard might wanna consider giving mouse steer a second look.

QUOTE(sabelt @ Dec 30 2006, 12:35 PM)
Just stick with the current format and make this race as close as possible with other competitors. Change this and that would kill the interest of GTR2 LYN community...

PCcrazy. I choose 575 because this the only cockpit gave me good FPS. Yup my pc sucked. Have some other commitment to maintain every month. eg. car, kart , house etc. But i do enjoy sim racing to be in shape from time to time...
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Sabelt, some say if you turn off motec, You could have better FPS. I don't really know exactly what they mean by that.

QUOTE(maranello55 @ Dec 30 2006, 02:33 PM)

A lot of guys here can guide u in setting up. I know for sure PCcrazy can. Here is one guide ive been using all this while. I hope it helps.
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I just wanted to help closing the gap, and make people understand default setup won't get you anywhere. Setup is about to suit the car with tracks and you. Since you guys have no problem with racing lines and things like that, setting up the car will improve handling significantly.

I will be in the server tonight, Long time tak practice nih.
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post Jan 1 2007, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(ryugan @ Jan 1 2007, 08:23 PM)
PCCrazy..any latest setup from u dat i can share..thnx..

ur time @ donington park ..too fast blush.gif
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I'll try tonight, it's been a long time since I drive the 550.
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post Jan 1 2007, 11:22 PM

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iZZnata suma skin dah siap kan?
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post Jan 2 2007, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(karom @ Jan 2 2007, 04:02 AM)
Donnington ni siapa qualify depan mmg susah nak kena overtake baliik lah ek?
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It's almost impossible to pass, unless the car in front is very very slow and commit mistakes. But there is always pit stop to depend on.

iZZ can PM me the link to the server.
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post Jan 2 2007, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jan 2 2007, 09:39 AM)
pccrazy, gave us your ghost car file for reference  tongue.gif
MOMO Vs G25.
Or is it that Maserati is the fastest car in GTR2.

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Madnoren has the most forgiving car in gtr2 but slow, my car is one of the most punishing (you have to be as smooth as buta to be quick) but the fastest of em all particularly through fast turns. 550 is the combination of the two, but normally in gtr2, people are quicker in the 550 than both of the car mentioned.

oh btw, alan is the fastest person here, I remember he clocked 1.26.xxx. His pace scares the shit* out of me. rclxms.gif

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post Jan 2 2007, 11:50 PM

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Madnoren, Alan can I trade motec with you guys.

Btw, madnoren dulu aku janji nak kasi, now here it is.

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If ham is still not okay, I think it's obvious that we have to postpone.

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Maybe quicker with aids ON tongue.gif
I saw a lot of 550 clocked the fastest times.
Maybe aids ON...that's why kot.


I don't think the pros have the aids on. They are just simply out of this world, a.k.a aliens

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post Jan 3 2007, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Redline @ Jan 3 2007, 12:04 PM)
OMG !!!!  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif  ohmy.gif your race time was too fast for me to chase...lol

i haven't run the full lap yet...still tweaking the setup...after reviewing your log data...i'v to reduce the wing to catch your speed but still not enough....i think i reached the limit already...your average race time = my qualify time.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

if the ham still not ok, we have to postpone.....or another solution, everyone get the version "kotak".....lol
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LOL I thought last time you mentioned about the time being 1m 28.1xx, So I got scared and spend a lot of time improving the hanling of the MC12. Little did I know it was your qualy pace. blink.gif

QUOTE(alan9347 @ Jan 3 2007, 12:26 PM)
ohh benda tu ke....aku xde ar.....mcm mana nak letak benda tu dlm pc aku....ajar la skit... maklumlah aku xtau sgt pasal benda2 ni

pccrazy, u r so crazy man, nak kejar kete mc12 pun xlarat....nak pinjam motec??? kelakar ar bunyinya....skang ni nak wat clock 1'27 pun dah susah sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

nak try practise mlm ni la....tu pun kalau ha***ci dah ok
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lol, u also the same, last time mentioned about 1m 26, What happened to that? Hah, I know this must be some kind of a conspiracy plot by team lambo. Hiding the real potential until the race itself. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Redline @ Jan 3 2007, 04:30 PM)
berbaloi jugak rasanye sebab ade org nak buat MOD GT 2006....
kotak ajaib yg boleh mengempiskan beg duit......lol

kotak tu versi ......sendiri paham la....bahaya nie...
borrow your word....nanti kena dgn mod....susah pulak....hehehe
OK, after this season over, we will move from tin car to open wheel series (OWS) = rFactor !!!!!!!

Several choices of the OWS in rFactor....

1. CTDP F12005 (if 2006 released, we use 2006 mod)
2. Formula Nippon
3. GP2
4. F3
5. GP1979 (classic wooo)

Vote now !!!!!!! hehehehe

No need hama**i with rFactor.....download & buy @ www.rfactor.net
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Me want v8 factor, the car is so damn cool. Close racing at its best.or F3 or whichever slower.

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mengapa daku bersendirian didlm server cry.gif
xnk practice ke


Can't log in.

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post Jan 4 2007, 02:41 AM

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Tried 550 during time trials, I got late 1m 27, go into open practise, struggling to get 1m28.5. So I need to see the tyres, it's not at optimum temp and pressure. The back end very light under braking. Sorry mr ryugan.
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post Jan 4 2007, 07:20 PM

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For those who want to race tonight, try login the ham as early as possible. It took me 30 mins to get in.

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I ran a quite assymetrical setup on my tyres to get even preassure on all sides. But still the FL tyre is always overheating....I need to check my camber hmm... hmm.gif

What do u think of assymetrical setup? Only on tyre pressures. I hope dampers dont have to be assy too? hmm.gif


Not symetry is needed only when fine tuning. The basic setup is symetrical.

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