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 [OFFICIAL]Rig Suggestion Q&A Thread V8!

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post Apr 27 2015, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(xtrm_cdr @ Apr 27 2015, 03:24 PM)
Oh OK. Thought so too.. But what if my budget is RM500? Is it possible then?
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Nope, it will be more than RM 500, since you need PSU and chassis too.
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post Apr 27 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(xtrm_cdr @ Apr 27 2015, 04:46 PM)
Can someone quote me the price of all this items:

AMD A4-6300 Processor
4gb DDR3 RAM
FM2 mobo (cheapest)
PC case (cheapest)
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AMD A4 6300 - RM 199
Corsair 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 124
MSI A68HM-E33 - RM 199
Cap ayam PC case ~ RM 50
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post Apr 27 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(xtrm_cdr @ Apr 27 2015, 05:37 PM)
So it's going to cost me RM600... OK tq sir smile.gif
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Do you have PSU? If don't have, then you might need to buy cap ayam PSU to power up your system too.
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post Apr 27 2015, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(SAB2811X @ Apr 27 2015, 07:26 PM)
Can someone quote me the price of all this items:

Intel Pentium G3258
MSI H81M-P33
Sapphire R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 OC
Kingston Hyper X Fury 8GB 1600MHz
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM
Thermaltake LitePower 500W Black Edition
Thermaltake Versa H25 USB 3.0 Casing
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Intel Pentium G3258 - RM 259
MSI H81M-P33 - RM 199
Sapphire R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 OC - RM 459
Kingston Hyper X Fury 8GB 1600MHz - RM 259
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 7200RPM - RM 199
Thermaltake LitePower 500W Black Edition - RM 179
Thermaltake Versa H25 USB 3.0 Casing - RM 135

Total: RM 1689 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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post Apr 27 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(SAB2811X @ Apr 27 2015, 08:29 PM)
Does the PSU good enough for OC and do i need to buy cpu cooler or just use the stock cooler? btw thanks.
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If you want OC, you need to get Z series mobo, current one cannot use to OC, get a better quality PSU and aftermarket cooler is recommended if you want to OC.

If you still can find Z87 mobo, go for it, it is cheaper than Z97 for around RM 100.

As for PSU, get a Seasonic for better stability and performance.

You can get a cheap aftermarket cooler like CM TX3 EVO @RM 99 if you are not a heavy OC'er.

Since getting a Z series mobo and aftermarket cooler will eventually jack up the price, you might as well go for i3 which supports hyperthreading instead.
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QUOTE(windwaker @ Apr 29 2015, 10:17 AM)
Hi guys, just bought a used HD7950. Seems like my current CPU is bottlenecked by the GC lol.

So, can i get some recommendation for a new CPU and Motherboard that fits the GC? Gaming purpose. Budget is rm1k for both, cheaper is better. Thanks in advance biggrin.gif
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 719
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264

Total: RM 983 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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post Apr 29 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(windwaker @ Apr 29 2015, 10:33 AM)
WOw thanks! Noob question, just checked the viewnet price list. Why is i5 CPU preferred over the AMD FX CPU for gaming? Seems like at the same price, the FX series has more speed, core, and cache.
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Intel processor is leading in gaming performance at the moment and most of the games favor Intel processor too.
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QUOTE(BOBmad @ Apr 29 2015, 02:07 PM)
Hi all Sifu...

Can you guys look into this rig build...is it OK?..if not give me a suggestion

my budget around 5.5k and i'm not OC...

CPU = i7 4790
GPU = MSI GTX970 GAMING
MOBO = MSI Z97 GAMING 3
RAM = KINGSTON HYPER X FURY 1600 8gbx2
SSD = 120G SAMSUNG 840EVO
HD = WD 1T
PSU = SEASONIC M-SERIES BRONZE 620W
COOLER = CM SEIDON 120V

I'm still new in this rig area... smile.gif
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If you are not going to oc, then no need to get a Z series mobo, the cheaper H series will do nod.gif

And you don't need a water cooler to chill your processor since it is locked, a cheaper air cooler or will do the job.

Intel Core i7 4790 - RM 1199
Asrock H97-Pro4 - RM 369
Kingston HyperX Fury 8GB DDR3 1600MHz RAM x2 - RM 518
Leadtek GTX980 4GB GDDR5 Hurricane - RM 2179
Liteon S900 256GB SSD - RM 429
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
Seasonic M12II EVO 620W PSU - RM 379
CM Hyper 212X - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 5580 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)

More powerful GPU, bigger size SSD.

If cannot accept slight overbudget, reduce the SSD size to 128GB @RM 269 and the remaining budget can be invested in a better case.


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QUOTE(BOBmad @ Apr 29 2015, 03:12 PM)
HI...Thanks for that build..

Can you give me a build for a standard OC Rig...Budget around 6.5k

Thanks in Advance... smile.gif
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Just change the following parts.

Intel Core i7 4790k - RM 1329
Asus Z97 PRO-GAMER - RM 663

Include a better cooler such as AIO water cooler if you want.

Corsair H100i GTX - RM 519

or cheaper CM Seidon 240M - RM 389

The rest of the budget can be used for bigger size SSD or better looking case.
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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ May 1 2015, 12:30 AM)
My Budget less than rm3k excluding monitor and speakers. Just cheap reliable wired basic gaming keyboard and mouse enough.

Would plug to LED tv samsung or lg. Why monitor still preferred when there's bigger hd led?

Is Amd FX8350 @4ghz good rm649 or intel i5 4460 @3.2ghz rm623 or i5 4590 @3.3ghz rm679? No clocking.

I need only 8gb ram and 1 gpu, moba doesn't need too many slots. Just more usb ports. Long term reliability and able to withstand heat priority as no aircond here. Asus, gigabyte or msi?

ATI Radeon r9 280 ddr5 3gb 384bit or nvidia geforce gtx760 or gtx960? Asus or MSI brand, any difference between these 2 brands in terms of performance? Need it for gaming and watching videos.

PSU sifu advice go for quality ones like corsair, is 650w enough for AMD no clocking? Or should i go for gigabyte higher end at similar price?

Memory prefer kingston hyperX 2400mhz XMP beast 8gb rm305.

Hdd WD black 7200rpm 2tb at rm440.

Heatsink is vital since no aircond. No watercooling or liquid. Which is good? Expensive corsair or coolermaster is fine? What do they use? Vacuum drive fan?
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Get Intel Core i5 4460, it beats AMD in gaming. As for brand, Asus, MSI and Gigabyte are "premium" brand in Malaysia here and tend to have higher "premium" price compared to other brands so if you are on tight budget, just get the cheaper brand and variant, it will just do the job fine, performance difference is small. As for PSU, for non oc build and Nvidia 9xx series card, 500W is already enough. And you don't need performance RAM, it won't help much in terms of performance, just get the value RAM. WD Black is overpriced, for 2TB, I would go for Seagate Barracuda, much cheaper. And lastly, if you are not going to oc, stock cooler will do the job fine but if you want it to run cooler, air cooler like CM Hyper 212X is a good choice.

The prices for the parts you stated above are outdated, hard to find those items at those prices now.

Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 719
Asrock B85M-HDS - RM 264
Kingston 8GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 229
Leadtek GTX960 2GB GDDR5 Hurricane GPU - RM 849
Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD - RM 299
Seasonic M12II EVO 520W PSU - RM 299
CM Hyper 212X - RM 169
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139
Logitech Wired MK100 combo - RM 39

Total: RM 3006 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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post May 1 2015, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ May 1 2015, 12:04 PM)
Very good and detailed info, thanks a lot.

Price of hardware went up becoz of gst sad.gif

Yes, i shall go for intel then.

1 more question, between premium hd led tv vs high end monitor, which is better? Is the monitor using hdmi or dvi plug?
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I will go for monitor because I have bad experience with HD TV, the text is not clear and the ppi is way lower than monitor which hurt my eyes. Low and mid end monitor normally have VGA, DVI, some of them have HDMI, higher end monitor will have DisplayPort. If you are using premium HD TV then I think it should be ok, just don't sit too near to it.
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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ May 1 2015, 10:13 PM)
Unlike cpu, when comes to gpu, it's quite confusing on specs. Take only ati radeon card sapphire brand to compare the few models it offered. The R9 280 comes with 3gb DDR5 and 512bit but why is it cheaper than some R9 with only 2gb DDR5?

For non~water cooled heatsink, what do they use? Just fans right? Some can reach more than rm300. Are they mini aircond?
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R9 280 comes with only 384 bits and I don't see any 2GB R9 card is more expensive than it.

About the aftermarket cooler, some of them are having more heat pipes which is more efficient in cooling the processor, some are expensive due to brand and the design.
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QUOTE(kungfugymnast @ May 1 2015, 11:54 PM)
Thanks again Terence.

Sorry, i meant not water cooled heatsink. I am not convinced with water~cooled as i worry it might have leakage or water pump faulty when old like radiator and hoses in cars.
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Yes I know you are not talking about water cooler, the heat pipe I mentioned is something like this

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The amount of heat pipe (bronze color) on the heatsink plays on important role in heat dissipation.
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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 2 2015, 03:52 PM)
Noted. Thank you for the piece of information.

Would it be suitable if I swap out the GPU with a GeForce 970/R9 280? Or do I have to upgrade other stuff in order to do this swap?
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It is ok to swap but you will have to top up your budget tho.
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QUOTE(neoarc @ May 2 2015, 06:55 PM)
Is there a way to cut down so that the price become 4-4.5k and im probably not overclocking due to lack experience.
Ty very much.
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Either reduce RAM to 8GB and remove the SSD or downgrade the GPU to GTX970.
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QUOTE(Besanth @ May 2 2015, 07:35 PM)
Is there much difference when using Corsair RAM compared to he standard Kingston RAM?
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Corsair and Kingston Value RAM are same, no performance difference between them. You can choose Kingston by topping up RM5.
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QUOTE(Woopy_901 @ May 3 2015, 09:25 PM)
Mainly for gaming purpose and watching movies.
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Intel Core i5 4460 - RM 719
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 189
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 119
Sapphire R7 260X 2GB GDDR5 GPU - RM 459
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 199
FSP Hexa+ 550W PSU - RM 159
Thermaltake Versa H25 - RM 139

Total: RM 1983 (Viewnet price inclusive of GST)
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QUOTE(neoarc @ May 3 2015, 10:10 PM)
Theres one more thing thats bugging me. Do you suggest intel i5 4690k or intel xeon e3-1231 v3 .
Whats the difference. TYVM  smile.gif
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Of course the xeon, xeon has hyperthreading technology and will definitely help in future upcoming games as more games are utilizing the extra threads. Xeon build will also be cheaper since you do not have to spend another RM 200 for z series mobo and stock cooler will run fine too on xeon so you don't have to spend more to get an aftermarket cooler.
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QUOTE(mumukau81 @ May 6 2015, 09:33 PM)
sorry to ask. if i wanna put a graphic card on my old hp 3330 MT with i3 processor,what GC can it support?
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OEM PC's normally need to upgrade PSU as well if you are going to upgrade the GC, if you are getting a low end GC with only 300W needed, then your current PSU might be able to support, if you are getting a mid end or high end GC then you will need to get a new PSU.
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QUOTE(genuinehuman @ May 7 2015, 12:03 AM)
Hi guys,

I plan to get a gaming rig , below is my suggested rig. budget max 1500 , gaming @ 1600x900 @ no OC (Mostly old game like Diablo 3 , Starcraft 2 , Crysis etc)

Pentium G3240
AEGIS 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Asrock H81M-VG4
1TB WD Caviar Blue
Sapphire R7 250X Vapor-X GHZ
FSP HEXA+ 550 / FSP HEXA+ 450 ? ?
AEROCOOL GT ADVANCE BLACK

Or

GPU I use GTX 750 (Resell value higher ?)  + Cap ayam psu and casing

Kindly advise which part can be more cost saving/efficient/durable  notworthy.gif
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Get an i3 if possible, the hyperthreading really helps in some games. The RAM can change to value RAM to save some money.

Intel Core i3 4150 - RM 402.80
Asrock H81M-VG4 - RM 178.08
Kingston 4GB DDR3 1600MHz Value RAM - RM 119
WD Blue 1TB HDD - RM 193.98
Sapphire R7 250X 1GB GDDR5 - RM 339.20
FSP Hexa+ 550W - RM 179
Aerocool V3X Advance - RM 104.94

Total: RM 1517 (Price with cents is from Jayacom, the rest is from Viewnet inclusive of GST)

QUOTE(naseem rosla @ May 7 2015, 12:09 AM)
Hi,I need help choosing PSU.My budget is around RM 150,Can anyone suggest me a decent one?
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Your current PC specs? Cannot recommend if we don't know your current PC specs.

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