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 Fixed Deposit Rates In Malaysia V. No.8, Please Read Post#1 and #2

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AVFAN
post Jan 3 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 3 2015, 01:04 PM)
To ALL:
We are now in a similar position to that in 2008/2009 where we had a slow-down.
In mid 2008, banks were still offering FD about 4% interest rate (like what we have now). USD/MYR went above 3.5 (same thing now) and petrol went below USD60/barrel in 2009 (like what is happening now).
But by mid 2009, interest rates went below 2%!!!!
Below is what was posted by our President/CEO of FDMCGC MilesAndMore:
You can check FD interest rates between 2008 and 2011 at Original FD Thread.
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this is very interesting. never considered that... but was thinking what else happened in 2008-2009...

with all those troubles in 2008, what did "they" do to get rates down to 2% by 2009 so that people continued to spend n consume? hmm.gif

i m not well not versed with the subject but i do think that has to do with a major change in policy in 2008/2009 - gates of debt opened, hence continued consumption/gdp growth while gomen n domestic debt started to climb dramatically since 2009.

question is... is there capacity now for same debt recipe to get us thru this time? if no, what will happen to int rates, bond rates and rm exchange rates? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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The federal government’s borrowing shifted into higher gear from 2008, the year the Barisan National coalition lost its two-thirds parliamentary majority.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...illion-by-2020/

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http://www.consumer.org.my/index.php/perso...-it-sustainable

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post Jan 3 2015, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Jan 3 2015, 03:26 PM)
Bro, with crude oil price below USD60/barrel now, you think our debt going to increase or government going to revise the budget? Debt is suppose to be good to boost the economy  tongue.gif 
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i wasn't really expecting much response to my question as this is fd n that is a much bigger issue...

anyway, with all this debt/crude-commodity low price/bigspender-allisgud-gomen, i will be the last one to think fd rates will go lower in the next 12-36 months.

i just hope depositors give a little thought if 2%, 6% or 10% fd is on the way or not... n why.

i dun remember much about 2008-2009 but more about 1998. tongue.gif

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post Jan 11 2015, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Jan 11 2015, 06:05 PM)
Personally I will still put in some more bullets to AmBank 3 yr 4.5%.  biggrin.gif Oh, still will top up some more to EPF though some people has expressed some concern.  hmm.gif
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even at 4.5% but 3 yrs, i am a little hesitant at this time with fresh funds. i hv some locked at 4.0% 15mths a few months ago but will wait a bit if i hv fresh. not that we haven't seen high int rate before!

anxiety over rm value, int rates, epf... all becos there is little transparency but plenty wayang going on with some big monies - to the tune of billions n tens of billions.

maybe by 30 jan we'll have a better idea...??

http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz3OUVAci3G

http://www.kinibiz.com/story/tigertalk/133...i-1mdb-2.0.html

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post Jan 12 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Jan 12 2015, 02:59 PM)
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mean i get interested twice in a year? Which is roughly 8+% per year right?
Is that any offer better thn this currently? Not too sure those 6, 9, 12months is working the same way anot or just meaning longer u put higher u get instead or giving interest every 3 or 6 months.
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read the print again. it is p.a. = per annum or 12 months.
6 mths period, you get 6/12 of that.
bank int rates ALWAYS quoted in p.a.
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post Jan 13 2015, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(ragk @ Jan 13 2015, 03:06 PM)
So mean if i put 6 months, they will gave me the 4.08% at month-12? hmm.gif
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u definitely need to learn how to read ads with fine prints better...

the big numbers in red says 4.28% with small print p.a.= per annum = per year.
below, 4.08% p.a. first 6 months, 4.28% p.a. next 6 mths.

now, go further below and read small print: effective campaign rate for 12 months placement is 4.18%.
it means this promotion is ONLY for 12 months, cannot do 1 or 3 or 6 or 9 months.
months 1-6, it is 4.08% p.a., so u get 6/12x4.08% = 2.04%. months 7-12, it is 4.28% p.a., u get 6/12x4.28%=2.14.
add the 2 periods, you get 2.04+2.14=4.18% which is what is stated too.

that's the way it is done. ads with big and small prints are meant to attract attention but qualified in case they get sued for misleading public.

if u ever read any ad and think it is 4 or 5% for 6 months or 10% for a year, u know it is wrong. no bank is offering that much at this time.

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post Jan 21 2015, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jan 21 2015, 10:38 AM)
Really tempted, now SGD 2.69. Wonder wanna keep in SG or change back for SCB 4.5% hmm.gif
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QUOTE(okuribito @ Jan 21 2015, 10:52 AM)
Currency movement can be more powerful than extra 0.5%-1% over 15 mths. Summore dunno what the exact T&C is regarding the CASA.... Anybody got the black & white T&C?
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these are very valid questions. more so at this time. no one knows the future but can look at the past...

i hv on my record, jan 2014 sgd/rm 2.550. today 2.70 = 5.9%.

where will it go from here?

there r enuf threads, posts, analyst reports, new reports around to read...

one's view on this will be the driver for one's actions.

my next fd is maturing in april - will see what's available then...
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post Feb 14 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(cj7lee @ Feb 14 2015, 08:01 PM)
For the SCB Saadiq Term Deposit-i, interest rate for 9M is 4.25% and for 15M is 4.50%. This promo is until 31 Mar.

The info and T&C can be found HERE
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i m worried when i read fd rates are now 4.25, 4.5%. reminds me of current russia and venezuela...

it means there is awful pressure for all rates to go up, all borrowing costs to go up incl ext borrowings like bonds, ringgit going down and down.

fd 4.5%, epf 7%... urban real inflation will be 8-10%, mixed rice/nasi lemak will go up 10-15%.

does not bode well at all - for those with rm savings and income... sad.gif

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post Feb 14 2015, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Feb 14 2015, 08:51 PM)
You got a point there, rest of the world interest rate going down, we on the other hand going up  tongue.gif
Bro, RM strengthen against AUD 2 weeks ago and for the first time in the last 3 years I managed to get AUD/MYR below 2.8 and that was TT rate smile.gif Money changer all still above 2.8 because their stock cost high.
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aud is one of the few "majors" that did worse than rm in recent months... and we know why - oz like canada n the like are commodity based currencies, got hammered when commodities incl oil goes lower n lower, no sight of incr consumption even from china.

i have interest in aud.. u remember i been planning for my child's coming expense. nov 2013, it was rm 3.0x when i visited melbourne. now, 2.77. but aud is very poor with usd or even sgd.

my point is... should i lock in aud now or just hold on to usd/sgd..?? hmm.gif

any pointer? thanks.
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post Feb 15 2015, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Feb 15 2015, 12:11 AM)
SGD and AUD almost dollar for dollar.....

As for should you hold on to USD, I don't know because if you see previous charts, it goes up and down. As for SGD, aeiou228 pointed before, it's on the uptrend like forever, hahaha

As for AUD, as far as I know, RBA still wants it to go lower. In 2008 AUD/USD went as low as 0.65 and AUD/MYR 2.2. But I not so greedy, when reach AUD/MYR 2.5 or below (TT rate) I will transfer my funds and go buy a property (it's like I'll be getting 30% discount from AUD/MYR at 3.3 in 2012 to 1st quarter 2013).

And talking about inflation, because of the high USD relatively to RM, we can expect imported goods prices to increase... e.g. new cars.

Bro I know what investment is fool proof... Rolex watches, hahaha

Above may be OT to some, but if RM weakens further... we all will be wishing we have converted our RM to USD or SGD  tongue.gif 
Many expected interest rates to go up in USD months ago, however last quarter data US economy not so good. Malaysia on the other hand reported better growth than most economist predicted.
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tq for comments.

aud/myr 2.5? that must be a long time ago, briefly? i wud think rm2.70 is a more realistic target as aussies at this time seem to be resigned to aud=0.75usd, so i read...

sgd... sg gomen been easing a bit, so may not get too strong. still, sgd on par with aud = rm2.70 is realistic!! tongue.gif

anyway, will keep monitoring. wink.gif

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post Apr 3 2015, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 3 2015, 06:31 PM)
kmarc and AVFAN - AUD/MYR went below 2.8 yesterday and getting nearer to 5 year low (2.72). If go below 2.72, then it is getting nearer to my target of 2.5, but then maybe I will turn extremely greedy and hope for 2.3, hahaha.
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thanks.

i hv been monitoring. as long as commodities particularly iron ore are in the doldrums, aud will not recover!

will try to catch the right time to go usd/sgd->aud.

cheers. smile.gif
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post Apr 11 2015, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Apr 11 2015, 12:15 PM)
i read that too.. how it works? how often OPR change?
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bnm meets every qtr.

opr can change or remain.

next meeting may 7:

http://www.bnm.gov.my/?ch=mone&pg=mone_mpc&lang=en
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post Apr 11 2015, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Apr 11 2015, 04:41 PM)
one of the comments caught my attention..
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ha... now u know how crooked minds think! tongue.gif
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post Apr 16 2015, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Apr 16 2015, 05:23 PM)
Nowadays banks want to know source of our funds  tongue.gif 

Last time another member mentioned he wanted to place a FD with OCBC but they told him to "balik kampung" and place the FD with their branch near to the address shown in his NRIC.

Yesterday I went and withdraw my money from UOB in cheque and cash forms. They also wanted to know why I taking out the money, For the cheque, I said to go deposit with other Bank's FD Promo. For the Cash, I said I going Genting laugh.gif And they actually keyed into the system what I said  thumbup.gif

I then when over to MBB to deposit the cash into my Savings Account with the teller (as I wanted the money ready for Q-Cash first thing in the morning today), and they made me fill in a Declaration Form  stating the Source Of The Fund doh.gif As for the Bank Draft where I placed with MBB Promo, no question asked.

Nowadays, banks very fussy where Source of Our Funds come from, especially if you are new to them.
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this is serious. looks like bnm issued memos to banks to collect data to feel the pulse of rakyat's money direction given the rm going down n down, 1mdb, etc...

thinking back, uob asked me the same question 3 months ago, so it has been going on for some time, maybe more serious now.

i like yr answer to uob. to that same question, my answer was, "you people want depositors to play fresh funds merry-go-round, burn petrol, pay parking and waste time. so, here i am, taking it to another bank. you banks very happy, yes?" laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2015, 06:21 PM

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there has been speculation bnm will cut rates soon, part reason for weak rm.

this looks like squashed for now, unlikely rate cut on may 7, rm strengthened.

that was march. post apr gst, we hv yet to see...

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The ringgit appreciated after Malaysia's Statistics Department said today the nation’s inflation, as measured by the consumer price index (CPI), increased 0.9% in March from a year earlier.

March's CPI's increase compared to the 0.1% rise seen in February. Reuters reported that emerging Asian currencies rose on Wednesday as the dollar retreated slightly, while Malaysia's ringgit extended gains after March inflation data cooled any lingering expectations of a rate cut there.
http://www.theedgemarkets.com/my/article/k...git-strengthens

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post Apr 27 2015, 06:02 PM

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i redeemed a matured fd at HLB today, got banker's cheque.

no questions asked.

wonder what's with uob asking silly questions. rolleyes.gif

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