hi,

adecco got my resume from jobsdb and they are interested with my profile and requested for me to attend a job interview..RM7k job (related to my working interest of course)..

should i go? my concern is that i just took 2 days leave last week due to personal problem and now i will need to take another half day leave for this..it's not so good for my reputation in my current company..

plus, i'm not 100% confirmed getting this job..so i'm just thinking should i apply leave for this interview or not..

risking my reputation for something that is not confirmed yet..but the offer is too attractive to be rejected..

what say u?

This post has been edited by GenkiGal: Sep 29 2006, 02:28 PM

just feel guilty about it..altot none of my work will be delayed or affected..

i'm those tht do not take leave unnecessarily..

still struggling..should go or shouldn't go..arghhh.. =.="

it's true that annual leaves are meant for you to take..
but when comes to performance evaluation for bonus, they'll take d number of leaves/MC u took into consideration..more leaves, bad performance..that's the company practice..try all ways to reduce ur bonus..haha

Just applied half day leave on this coming thursday..boss approved without asking much..i just put "Personal errant"..haha

Wish me luck, guys..i wanted this job badly..it'll b a big turning point in my life ^^

For those who left your advice..thanks a lot..it does help me to make up my mind..hehe ^^

will update u guys more when i'm back frm d interview..

haha..fake MC is worst than a half day leave
i'm 24 tis yrs..tht's why i'm telling u RM7k is a big amt for merely 3 yrs exp like mine, it's RM2k plus different from what i have now..since they belive in me, i decided not to hold back and give it a try lor..

it's an australian based company..i'm not sure and not so confident tht i'll get the job yet..will let u guys know more bout d company once i went for the interview 2morrow..

pray hard for me too..hehe ^^

This post has been edited by GenkiGal: Sep 27 2006, 05:28 PM

i'm back..i'm back frm d interview!!!
i have high chances getting into d next round of interview..wahahha \^o^/

just 2 update u guys for those who asked about the company info..it's an australia company, quite established in m'sia..
d position they are offering me is managerial level/team lead for IT projects..heheeh ^^

bsides this australia company, there are few more companies tht are interested in meeting me (according to adecco la, but dunno how true is it)..but anyhow, priority will b given to this australia company..coz they urgently need ppl..

will need 2 wait till monday for the adecco lady to call me to confirm whether or not i'm in for d 2nd interview..if i'm in..i'll b meeting d company's CEO..great ^^ will pray very very hard starting 2day 2 get this job..i cant wait to start a new chapter in my life

thank you all for those that concern..arigato ^^

IT industry.
Guys..guess wat..i'm shortlisted for the 2nd round interview already..being notified yday evening..3 hrs after my interview..i'm sooo happy !!!

now is final round interview in 12th October..there are 4 ppl shortlisted including me..success rate is 25% each..kinda worry..coz i got to know tht i'm d youngest among them..tht's a disadv coz i might b lack of knowledge n skills compare to them

but anyhow, will not give up till d end..will try my best..

quite suprise that this post's still alive..

Gan => I'm more into Software Engineering, and i'm currently having master in IT as well as master in Software Engineering..about SAP, will get myself into it soon, coz SAP candidates are like hot cakes nowadays

Hazremi => thx a lot for ur words..hehe..we have to alwiz bear in mind tht age is not a problem, it's d skills and knowledge that matters when it comes to job searching (hopefully it applies 2 my case oso ) \^o^/

Yes, i'm in leading position now..team lead of 12 technical person including programmers, designers and analyst.

Of course i'm not onli going for the $$ but also the exposure the company can offered me..i see a future in that company compare to my current company where i cannot grow anymore..

Guess tht u r doubting my leadership skills since i'm too young, rite..never judge a person on their age

Thinks highly on themself and have appropriate self-confident is 2 different things..the first 1 is nothing but egotism - just an empty shell, the latter 1 is understand ur self value and improve urself from what u know about urself..

My self confident is from myself as well as from people around me and how popular my career profile within job hunters define my value in the market..anyway, i just got another offer from Jen International (another job hunter) for the position of senior IT consultant/manager..guess tht did define i still worth a cent in d current market ^^

Cheers to everybody that is finding job outthere and dun b afraid to be confident on urself

Go Mavik..giv me 5 !!!! ^^
I do agree tht human need to be constantly challenged, then only u'll find improvement in urself..life'll b bored without new challenges

wow..seems like it suddenly turned out to be lots of flaming in here..
cool down, guys..

dreamer101 thank you for standing up and have confident in me eventhough u dun even know who am i..

for Gan, honestly..i did felt offended and insulted initially by your words, but anyhow if i cannot even deal with people like u, that will show that i have 0% of leader quality in me..leader does not act emotionally, leader thinks logically and act for the win-win situation.

When you are asking "What sort of leader are you?", what are u expecting me to answer actually? How do you define what categories of leadership? In my opinon, i am not in the right position to answer that question as i foreseen no matter what i answer you will flame me back as thinking too highly on myself, that's your characteristic that i observed through your conversation with dreamer101, you are very defensive. It will be better that if any of my subordinate saw this and answer it on my behalf as they've been working together with me for sometimes and they know my characteristic well.

anyhow, for dreamer101, you do not need to entertain Gan, he has his freedome of speech..whatever he said which you think is right then u just take it into mind else just ignore him. dun let him has d chance to make u angry and catch your words especially when u are angry and your only aim is to prove him wrong..different people has different perception..i do not need his perception to prove that i am not a leader as he does not know who am i at all. but anyhow, would like to thank u again for standing up for a stranger like me, cheers dude !

Again in my opinion, none of us have the rights or i should rather said that we do not know each enough to judge whether he/she has the quality of a leader or not.

Our ex-pm Dr.M, he's a great leader, we can't deny that, but look at the recent case between him n Pak Lah..as conclusion a leader is also a human, human do make mistakes, human do have the time when they lost control of their emotion.

To extol, i'm not sweating over small stuff, i understand that this is a public forum and everybody has the freedom of speech. But sometime it just cant help to feel slight irritation when people are criticising you based on nothing. But anyhow, i'm ok bout it after a split seconds reading Gan's post. And definitely i'm not asking anybody to back me up. I just feel that it is unnecessary for both party to continue the fire here by trying to prove that who's right or who's wrong. Back to the origin, this is just a simple thread posted by me asking for advice whether or not i should attend the interview. Thanks for all the encouragement, i've been t o the interview and has been shorlisted for 2nd round interview this coming 12th October.

To dreamer101, forget bout the family name matter, this is just a public forum. Gan's not even here to comment anything anymore, just chilled and have fun sharing opinion, dun be so tense up

for my double master it's a distance learning actually..i only go to class during weekend..MIT is from OUM and MSE is from La Rochelle Uni, France. the cost of taking both together is more worth than taking only 1 at a time. sometimes will feel tired, but anyhow it just a 2 years course, should do it while young..else if i grow older i'm not sure whether will i still have this kind of determination to do so

about how i got into management..

my 1st job was project coordinator in an online gaming company. at that time i already got involve in project management, ppl management and so on. i quitted that job after 1 and half year coz i do not want to move in management too soon, i wanted to strengthen my technical skills. coz in my opinion, if u know nothing technical then u will not be able to lead tachnical people, and of course people will not listen to a boss that knows nothing as well.

Currently i am a senior analyst programmer, of course there'll never b enuf learning of technical stuff in IT fields as the technology is changing at a very fast pace. It's hard to explain, but anyhow i feel that it's time for me to move on to a better company that can offer me more opportunity to learn new things..

At the same time, Adecco and Jen International (head hunters) approached me. Since i have the plan to move on, so why not give it a try especially there are golden opportunity in front of me. Personally, i prefer Adecco's client and wish that i'll got the job instead of the one from Jen International..hehe

I dare not said tht i will definitely get either one of the job, if i failed then i'll try again, but anyhow i do pray for the very best

about what kind of leader am i (asked by Gan before..)..
i'm neither a hard or soft leader, i am in d middle i guess . but i am definitely a result oriented leader, dun tell me bullshit, just give me the result. and of course i am someone who are tolerance enuf to let my guys have a short break after a successful big project. In my opinioin, work is impt but job satisfaction is impt too, once in a while some small reward will make the ppl feel that they are appreciated and in return they'll work harder for u..win-win situation, aint it

hope that the above do answers ur questions, rollinpark and whtrader

hahaha..feels like doing pop quiz like that

1) what is quality?
quality of an IT project is how well it fulfills the user's need using the minimum cost and time to produce a workable system, which it's practical enough to be managed in long term and will help organization to gain profit in long term.

2) no.1 prob in any project is always people. time & cost can be negotiated, resources can be obtained if u try all ways, but human behaviour is difficult to change within a short period of time. that's why there are a saying that said that organization can be success because of its employees as well as can be failed by its employee.

p/s: sorry, got too much to say. din manage to make it 1 sentence for question 2..hehe..hope this answers ur questions.

[E]velyn, thanks for ur opinion, i already went for the interview, indeed i'm going for 2nd round interview this coming thursday, wish me luck ^^

goliath, for the 2nd answer i used to failed to identified it..i always tot that resources available are the key factor that governs a project success or failure, it tooks a painful lesson to learnt that human is the greatest resource for a project.

dreamer101, u make me feel like i'm practicing how to anwer for my upcoming interview..haha..

ok here come d answer (this round i'm not sure my answer is right or not, just my opinion)
1) software testing main purpose of course is to find bugs and fix it but also indirectly it's a way to force d user to learn up the system as well..haha..as they'll need to sit down and run through every test cases, steps by steps.

2) common prob in software testing again is human, but this round it's the user. user's unlike developers, they can use millions of ways to go around the system, which sometimes we developers will never thought of , thus created bugs. plus, users are mostly not technical person, thus guiding them through testing and sometimes trying to ask them to simulate back the problem is a real tough job, coz they sometime dun even remember what they did to got there, funny..but it's true..

Thanks for the input, it might help in my interview ^^

haha..yeah i know what u meant kennyL2 and jojoko1982

me myself when i read back this thread i was wondering what am i thinking back then mann..d question of asking should take leave for interview or not seems so childish..

mayb there's too many things happened at once at the period of 2 or 3 days..i just took leaves bcoz a close relative of mine passed away, i've been at the funeral place for 3 days till midnite everyday..was tired n exhausted..

when back to work, there are lots to do, lots of decisions to be made, lots of meetings to be attended..then all of sudden i was spotted by job hunter..not 1 but 2..so i was doubtful that time, not sure what should i do..althought i plan to leave my current company but is now the right time to do so? to attend interview? take leave or not is not the main concern actually..hehe..it's that i haven't prepare myself to take d 1st step out to search for a new job..so indirectly i'll feel guilty if i take leave for that purpose..

half day leave might seems like nothing for most of the people, but half day leave for me is a very big thing..lots of things will be pending if i took half day leave (i already took a few days leave back then)..and it affect not only my performance but my whole team's performance..

if u read all the post since beginning, i am not actually unable to make decision, i'm just doubtful at that time..within less that 30min this post has been posted up i have already make up my mind to applied for leave and already booked an interview time with the head hunter.

yeap, i know this sounded like an excuse, but anyhow i'm still a human being, i do get tired and at my brain did get point blank sometimes..but anyhow, i'll learn to be stronger next time!!! thanks for the positive critics

This post has been edited by GenkiGal: Oct 10 2006, 02:46 PM

i've seen natural born leaders, even they are not in leading position, people tend to listen to their words coz their words have the power that i do not know how to describe..this does not apply to working environment onli..it also apply to our daily group activities with family and friends.

of course there are ppl that learnt to be leader..ppl in this categories have to been thru a lot and experience lots of things to get them to the level, i'm in this category..i'm not a natural leader..i've been thru a hard way to earn the respect and to be where i am at now..

anyhow, just like to announce tht 2day is d big day..i'm goin off at 12.30pm later..please pray hard for me to get the job..i need not onli skills and knowledge to get d job, luck does play an impt role too

again, thank you all that being supportive all the way, i appreciate it very much..regardless i'm goin to succeed or failed d interview later, i'll do all my best \^o^/