Hi, i believe many asian have lactose intolarence, so which type of weight gainer do you all recommend? Cheers

The reason to buy weight gainer?

This post has been edited by Amedion: Dec 31 2014, 11:08 AM

If you think of buying a weight gainer, stop going to gym immediately. Stop listening to your "bros", and go study natural bodybuilding for at-least 1 month.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Dec 31 2014, 11:17 AM

lol this forum has something against weight gainers..

you can make your own weight gainer by blending. plenty of recipes.
common one is pb, oats, whey, milk, and banana.
find a protein powder that contains lactase. i know Dymatize Elite has lactase in it. or get lactase separately and add it in.

2 sets of McDonald's Meg mac set meal.

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All muscle bro, all muscle.

LOL, you should also stop taking your regular Whey Protein supplement and go fully Natural Food for life

Haha, gainsss.

You don't need whey to make gains. Just calorie surplus from natur food.

Using your reasoning, you also don't need whey to gain muscle, just protein surplus from natural food.

So those who always against hard gainers for taking weight gainers supplements, should also follow their own advice and stop taking protein supplements and instead get their protein from natural food.

Note :- I am just making the above statement in sarcasm to make a point. I am not against taking supplements. I myself have taken both Weight Gainers and Whey Protein Supplements depending on my needs at that particular time.




This post has been edited by Ngto: Jan 2 2015, 09:48 AM

There is a big difference between someone who takes mass gainers and whey protein. Try ask the mass gainer guy what is TDEE and check his phone for MyFitnessPal. A properly educate natural almost never buys mass gainers.

Of course there's a difference.

That's because their needs are different. So they take according to their needs.

1) A skinny/underweight guy who is already eating regular meals and still can't gain weight will turn to Weight Gainers for extra calories + some protein. His priority is to gain weight first.

2) Same reason, a body Builder who can't get sufficient Protein from eating Natural Food will turn to taking Protein Supplements.

Both are taking supplements to aid and speed up their objectives, to each his own. No need to always shoot people down just because they want to take Weight Gainers for their own reasons and is different from yours.

Armesh, for your info both Weight Gainers and Protein Supplements are made by the same companies.

Generally these companies will label as such :-

High Protein + low Carbs + extras= labelled as Protein Supplement
High Carbs + some protein + extras = labelled as Weight Gainers

They can even cheat and label a Weight Gainer as Protein Supplement, you never know. The fact is if you are saying Weight Gainers are not natural, then you are also saying Protein Supplements are also not natural.

So practice what you preach, and stop taking Whey protein supplements and just take natural food for your natural needs

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jan 2 2015, 10:30 AM

No such thing. F***ing guarantee that "skinny guy" phone no MyFitnessPal

Maybe 1 in a million who got some very special metabolic problem? Maybe...

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jan 2 2015, 10:15 AM

Then why don't you stop taking Whey Protein and eat natural food for your protein source . Apply your own theory, I am sure you don't need the help of Whey supplement to gain muscle. Get all your protein from natural food alone.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jan 2 2015, 10:26 AM

No such thing, dude. Both can get from natural food.

1. "Bros" turn to weight gainer because they believe the supplement can build mass. As the product says "Mass Gainer". In chinese, they call it "Grow meat/muscle protein".

2. You can get sufficient protein from natural foods but it will overshoot the calories requirement if you're on a cut. That's the usage of whey protein.

I have nothing against weight gainer. I used it twice. We just need to educate these ppl that mass gainer is not weight gainer and whey protein is not a cutting supplement.

Weight gain = Calorie surplus
Cut = Calorie deficit

Finally someone who understands my point. Like.

Mass bro mass!

So, what is an effective weight gainer?

See the bottom line?

Whether its weight gainer, whey protein, healthy food, bad food or whatever food. Calorie surplus.

Effective weight gainer? My suggestion would be fast-food.
LArge pizza = 2k calories
McChicken set = 1k calories

You want to get mass gainer by all means go ahead. I don't want to bring that to work. Fast-food is everywhere and taste a hell lot better.

This post has been edited by Amedion: Jan 2 2015, 11:10 AM

mass gainer is made from low quality protein (which contains whey protein concentrate) + shit load of sugar. why not make your own? the low quality protein is what cause you to have gas. not to mention weight gainer is expensive as hell, not worth the money.

Indeed it's expensive and taste like shit. I'd rather have 200grams milo (850calories). 1kg softpack cost RM 17+. I can take from office. Free mass gainer there.

damn straight bro. i was one of those gullible sheep who spend hundreds of ringgits buying those fluff powder and turned into a fatf**k in 3 months.

people are given a wrong perception when supplements company use bodybuilders to promote their product. "take this powder XYZ and be big like me!", not knowing that most of the pros and enhanced. what can i say, it's a multi billion business.

anyway, one of the best gainer's friend - nuts, lots of em. walnut, cashew nut, or just stick to the cheap alternative - peanut remember to track the calories, don't go nuts on them (no pun intended)

happy bulking

1. Who is to say/guess that "Bros" turn to Weight Gainer because they mistakenly think it grows muscle Mass. Can you read their mind? We are talking about underweight guys here. Isn't it more reasonable to think that they want to take Weight Gainer just to Gain Weight?

2. "Weight Gain - Calorie surplus". Isn't that the point I was making all along.

Go back and read my previous posts . You don't understand the point I was making, because I used a lot of sarcasm in reply to Armesh's reasoning. Whenever someone asks about Weight Gainers, he just shoots them down without finding out what they require it for.

Thanks for the reply.

Lots of so called Whey Protein supplement have whey Concentrate added too. Go figure.

Because there's no need to know. 99% people take it cause they do not know anything about basic bodybuilding nutrition.

Anyone who have basic BB education will not buy a mass gainer... let alone make threads on asking people to recommend him mass gainers. People who buy mass gainers say things like "Berries where got calories" or "Apple got calorie meh?". They have absolute zero education and full of bro-science. That's why i ask them educate themselves and change their info source instead.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jan 2 2015, 01:03 PM

wah lao... mcchic set for 1k calories i guess that's about 2.5 mchic burger..... 1 mchic offer 20g protein.... so thats about 40g protein dy.... crappy protein source but taste superb...

https://mcdonalds.com.au/menu/mcchicken

Yeah. Our advise is all texts so they find it hard to believe. Unless you show them some juiced body.

i used to eat nuts but my tooth is getting bad. Peanut butter now and yeah, dont go nuts on them.

Oh ok. He's famous for being harsh on newbies. Sorry for my honesty.

Np.

McChicken Set , bro..
Mcchicken + Drink + Fries = 1k calories.. Hope I don't get it wrong..

I've used mass gainers to my benefit before because, as with all supplements, they are convenient. There's more than one way to skin a cat and mass gainers are simply just another means to an end. It's not as if they're testosterone "boosters", which actually are useless.

Don't misinterpret this as me saying to disregard basic nutritional knowledge or anything of the sort, because that is not what I'm saying.

This post has been edited by -Dan: Jan 3 2015, 07:56 AM

Talking Co*k again. The furthest thing on a 52kg skinny ectomorph's mind is trying to look like Arnold because he knows the reality. He just wants to take Weight Gainer to gain some weight. Not everyone wants to be a wannabe Bodybuilder like you. Always assuming you know what's on people's mind.

You are just a 60+ kg at 175cm but talk very big as if a professional Bodybuilder. My advice to you, just give up your grandeur illusion and practice what you preach and stop taking Whey supplements. Just taking Whey alone and exercising your mouth won't make you anyway near a Bodybuilder

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jan 3 2015, 09:08 AM

At least someone understand what I have been saying all along, Each type of supplement as it's own purpose at different times for different people.

After all it's just a supplement, an aid, not like is is supposed to replace a healthy natural meal.

You can take it in between meals, before bed, basically any time of day. It Just takes a minute to prepare. After all a skinny guy needs 5 or 6 meals/snacks a day to get his calories for gaining weight, how to expect him to prepare or look for natural food all the time.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jan 3 2015, 09:12 AM

I'm 53kg, 180cm and I don't take whey.

This post has been edited by Armesh: Jan 3 2015, 09:35 AM

Not what you said before .

Hi, felt sad for you when your question was to ask bout recommendation for lactose intolerance weight gainer and you got bunch of answers replying out of topic..I totally get it, bcoz the moment you guys start asking bout mass gainer in this forum, ppl here started judging you thinking that you're gonna skip workout, skip real foods and rely merely on mass gainer to get big...in fact they didn't know some of us actually know what we're doing (at least i do)..

Last time when i was skinny (55kg), eventhough i've read everything here with almost everyone saying mass gainer was useless and nothing should replace real foods, i never take their words..

Knowing the reason that im skinny bcoz i have super low appetite and i just cant swallow in alot of food, i give it a try and took mass gainer for bout 3 months..yes, i did gain some weight of course coupling with all the essential workouts activities...sooner or later, i started to realize that mass gainer was not necessary anymore as my appetite started growing and i can eat alot each meal...thats when i ditch my unfinished mass gainers and took only real foods (supplement only whey + creatine) in my growing regime. Now im weighted 70kg with some decent muscles.

What i wanted to say here is because we've all took that route, and we can not stop you guys from doing anything. What we can do the most here is to share our own experience and telling you the outcome of what we've done. If you insist of taking mass gainers, by all means go ahead and the times will come to you to realize whether how useful and effective the things to you...there's no right or wrong with that...I believe thats human nature, the more we got restricted, the more we wanna try..Just like your parents telling you not to have gf during schooltime, but that's the first thing you wana do at school.


Anyways, back to your questions... i'm lactose intolerance myself, and last time during early time of my working out, i've tried nutrabolics mass fusion and dymatize super mass gainer..and they both gave no problem in terms of lactose intolerance...you can try..cheers

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Well said bro. Love all your replies here.

It's ok . Not my intention to make enemies with any one here. Just want him to have a more balanced perspective that's all.

Apologies to TS for hijacking this thread with arguments , but it was a necessary evil so that future threads about Weight Gainers or any other supplements are answered with a less harsh or confrontational attitude.

Peace

This post has been edited by Ngto: Jan 4 2015, 11:39 AM