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TSdanny88888
post Dec 31 2014, 10:07 AM, updated 11y ago

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Hi, i believe many asian have lactose intolarence, so which type of weight gainer do you all recommend? Cheers
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post Dec 31 2014, 11:08 AM

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The reason to buy weight gainer?

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post Dec 31 2014, 11:17 AM

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If you think of buying a weight gainer, stop going to gym immediately. Stop listening to your "bros", and go study natural bodybuilding for at-least 1 month.

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post Dec 31 2014, 02:31 PM

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lol this forum has something against weight gainers..

you can make your own weight gainer by blending. plenty of recipes.
common one is pb, oats, whey, milk, and banana.
find a protein powder that contains lactase. i know Dymatize Elite has lactase in it. or get lactase separately and add it in.


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post Dec 31 2014, 10:06 PM

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2 sets of McDonald's Meg mac set meal.
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post Jan 1 2015, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(kshen @ Dec 31 2014, 10:06 PM)
2 sets of McDonald's Meg mac set meal.
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post Jan 1 2015, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Dec 31 2014, 11:17 AM)
If you think of buying a weight gainer, stop going to gym immediately. Stop listening to your "bros", and go study natural bodybuilding for at-least 1 month.
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LOL, you should also stop taking your regular Whey Protein supplement and go fully Natural Food for life rclxms.gif
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post Jan 1 2015, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Jan 1 2015, 01:25 AM)
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All muscle bro, all muscle.
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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 1 2015, 10:53 AM)
LOL, you should also stop taking your regular Whey Protein supplement and go fully Natural Food for life  rclxms.gif
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You don't need whey to make gains. Just calorie surplus from natur food.
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post Jan 2 2015, 06:01 AM

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Using your reasoning, you also don't need whey to gain muscle, just protein surplus from natural food.

So those who always against hard gainers for taking weight gainers supplements, should also follow their own advice and stop taking protein supplements and instead get their protein from natural food. smile.gif

Note :- I am just making the above statement in sarcasm to make a point. I am not against taking supplements. I myself have taken both Weight Gainers and Whey Protein Supplements depending on my needs at that particular time.




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post Jan 2 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 2 2015, 06:01 AM)
Using your reasoning, you also dont need whey to gain muscle, just protein surplus from natural food.

So those who always against hard gainers for taking weight gainers supplements, should also follow their own advice and stop taking protein supplements and instead get their protein from natural food.  smile.gif
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There is a big difference between someone who takes mass gainers and whey protein. Try ask the mass gainer guy what is TDEE and check his phone for MyFitnessPal. A properly educate natural almost never buys mass gainers.
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Jan 2 2015, 09:33 AM)
There is a big difference between someone who takes mass gainers and whey protein. Try ask the mass gainer guy what is TDEE and check his phone for MyFitnessPal. A properly educate natural almost never buys mass gainers.
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Of course there's a difference.

That's because their needs are different. So they take according to their needs.

1) A skinny/underweight guy who is already eating regular meals and still can't gain weight will turn to Weight Gainers for extra calories + some protein. His priority is to gain weight first.

2) Same reason, a body Builder who can't get sufficient Protein from eating Natural Food will turn to taking Protein Supplements.

Both are taking supplements to aid and speed up their objectives, to each his own. No need to always shoot people down just because they want to take Weight Gainers for their own reasons and is different from yours.

Armesh, for your info both Weight Gainers and Protein Supplements are made by the same companies.

Generally these companies will label as such :-

High Protein + low Carbs + extras= labelled as Protein Supplement
High Carbs + some protein + extras = labelled as Weight Gainers

They can even cheat and label a Weight Gainer as Protein Supplement, you never know. The fact is if you are saying Weight Gainers are not natural, then you are also saying Protein Supplements are also not natural.

So practice what you preach, and stop taking Whey protein supplements and just take natural food for your natural needs biggrin.gif

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post Jan 2 2015, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 2 2015, 10:06 AM)
Of course there's a difference.

That's because their needs are different. So they take according to their needs.

1) A skinny/underweight guy who is already eating regular meals and still can't gain weight will turn to Weight Gainers for extra calories. His priority is to gain weight first.
No such thing. F***ing guarantee that "skinny guy" phone no MyFitnessPal

Maybe 1 in a million who got some very special metabolic problem? Maybe...

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post Jan 2 2015, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Jan 2 2015, 10:12 AM)
No such thing. F***ing guarantee that "skinny guy" phone no MyFitnessPal

Maybe 1 in a million who got some very special metabolic problem? Maybe...
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Then why don't you stop taking Whey Protein and eat natural food for your protein source smile.gif . Apply your own theory, I am sure you don't need the help of Whey supplement to gain muscle. Get all your protein from natural food alone.

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post Jan 2 2015, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Ngto @ Jan 2 2015, 10:06 AM)
Of course there's a difference.

That's because their needs are different. So they take according to their needs.

1) A skinny/underweight guy who is already eating regular meals and still can't gain weight will turn to Weight Gainers for extra calories + some protein. His priority is to gain weight first.

2) Same reason, a body Builder who can't get sufficient Protein from eating Natural Food will turn to taking Protein Supplements.

Both are taking supplements to aid and speed up their objectives, to each his own. No need to always shoot people down just because they want to take Weight Gainers for their own reasons and is different from yours.

Armesh, for your info both Weight Gainers and Protein Supplements are made by the same companies.

Generally these companies will label as such :-

High Protein + low Carbs  + extras= labelled as Protein Supplement
High Carbs + some protein + extras = labelled as Weight Gainers

They can even cheat and label a Weight Gainer as Protein Supplement, you never know. The fact is if you are saying Weight Gainers are not natural, then you are also saying Protein Supplements are also not natural.

So practice what you preach, and stop taking Whey protein supplements and just take natural food for your natural needs  biggrin.gif
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No such thing, dude. Both can get from natural food.

1. "Bros" turn to weight gainer because they believe the supplement can build mass. As the product says "Mass Gainer". In chinese, they call it "Grow meat/muscle protein".

2. You can get sufficient protein from natural foods but it will overshoot the calories requirement if you're on a cut. That's the usage of whey protein.

I have nothing against weight gainer. I used it twice. We just need to educate these ppl that mass gainer is not weight gainer and whey protein is not a cutting supplement.

Weight gain = Calorie surplus
Cut = Calorie deficit
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post Jan 2 2015, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jan 2 2015, 10:42 AM)
No such thing, dude. Both can get from natural food.

1. "Bros" turn to weight gainer because they believe the supplement can build mass. As the product says "Mass Gainer". In chinese, they call it "Grow meat/muscle protein".

2. You can get sufficient protein from natural foods but it will overshoot the calories requirement if you're on a cut. That's the usage of whey protein.

I have nothing against weight gainer. I used it twice. We just need to educate these ppl that mass gainer is not weight gainer and whey protein is not a cutting supplement.

Weight gain = Calorie surplus
Cut = Calorie deficit
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Finally someone who understands my point. Like.

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post Jan 2 2015, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jan 2 2015, 10:42 AM)
I have nothing against weight gainer. I used it twice. We just need to educate these ppl that mass gainer is not weight gainer and whey protein is not a cutting supplement.

Weight gain = Calorie surplus
Cut = Calorie deficit
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So, what is an effective weight gainer? hmm.gif
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post Jan 2 2015, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(futra @ Jan 2 2015, 10:55 AM)
So, what is an effective weight gainer?  hmm.gif
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See the bottom line?

Whether its weight gainer, whey protein, healthy food, bad food or whatever food. Calorie surplus.

Effective weight gainer? My suggestion would be fast-food.
LArge pizza = 2k calories
McChicken set = 1k calories

You want to get mass gainer by all means go ahead. I don't want to bring that to work. Fast-food is everywhere and taste a hell lot better.

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post Jan 2 2015, 11:18 AM

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mass gainer is made from low quality protein (which contains whey protein concentrate) + shit load of sugar. why not make your own? the low quality protein is what cause you to have gas. not to mention weight gainer is expensive as hell, not worth the money.
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post Jan 2 2015, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(The Silent Killer @ Jan 2 2015, 11:18 AM)
mass gainer is made from low quality protein (which contains whey protein concentrate) + shit load of sugar. why not make your own? the low quality protein is what cause you to have gas. not to mention weight gainer is expensive as hell, not worth the money.
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Indeed it's expensive and taste like shit. I'd rather have 200grams milo (850calories). 1kg softpack cost RM 17+. I can take from office. Free mass gainer there. laugh.gif

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