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post Mar 3 2015, 01:27 PM

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And in today's Star: http://www.thestar.com.my/Metro/Focus/2015...h-its-local-de/

"The predominant Chinese community in Tanjung Sepat New Village worship many deities but extra reverence is accorded to Tie Dai Yuan Shuai (the Iron General). It is said that the deity came from Shantung, China. A villager who refused to be named said that one of the most prominent stories told about the deity was that it protected the villagers during the May 13, 1969 riots."

Never heard of him before.
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post Mar 8 2015, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Mar 8 2015, 06:49 AM)
Why is bamboo often associated with Hell deities?

One often sees Hell deities wearing garments with bamboo or bamboo leaf motifs; you can see similar imagery decorating the Hell sections of temples and sintuas, too.

Bamboo is a plant that, according to myth, has evil-dispelling properties. Other myths associate it with death, on account of how the bamboo plant's massive root systems impoverish the soil and prevent anything else from growing nearby.

So there you go - associated with death, and capable of warding evil. Sounds like a pretty apt plant for the Hell deities, don't you think?

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But I thought bamboo is also associated with Guan Yin and many Buddhist temples also have bamboo plants within their compound.
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post Mar 9 2015, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Mar 9 2015, 07:07 AM)
Within the Buddhist context, which is different from the Hellish context that I've outlined above, the bamboo symbolises perseverance and the ability to withstand tribulations - good qualities for a monk or nun.

At any rate, however, the plant classically associated with Guan Yin is not the bamboo, but the lotus - a bloom that represents purity.

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I think the lotus is commonly used by all Buddhist deities/bodhisatvas as it symbolises purity, not just specific to Guan Yin alone. If you noticed, she's also usually holding a stalk of bamboo.

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post Mar 9 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Mar 9 2015, 10:36 AM)
That's supposed to be a willow branch, lol.
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Oh sheesh..I always thought it was bamboo..lol.
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post Mar 11 2015, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 11 2015, 10:07 AM)
still continue, 2015 season just aired 7th March, featuring Sarawak , i am not yet watch.
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Is it on youtube? How can we watch it?
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post Mar 16 2015, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(sales.convenience @ Mar 16 2015, 08:45 PM)
anybody keen on abit of thai-buddism ?
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Probably on another thread, else Nacht will kill us..lol.
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post Mar 19 2015, 01:06 AM

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Question...why is it that Hokkien seems the most common, if not the only dialect used by the medium under trance?

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post Mar 25 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Mar 25 2015, 10:01 AM)
I have never seen the "statue" of Nine Emperor b4 as the old folks say we are not allowed to see him & he is not visible. Is there such things?
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post May 5 2015, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(estcin @ May 5 2015, 12:07 PM)
Thanks Nacht. No wonder they say woman suicide in red cloth is more powerful.
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I always wondered why a woman who died wearing red is more powerful...could it be because "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"? LOL
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post Jun 14 2015, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 13 2015, 10:14 PM)
'Kept ghosts' can be divided into three categories.

The first category are those who are fugitives from the spiritual law, who are trying to escape their final judgement - they find refuge with those who are willing to keep and provide for them, in exchange for favours.

The second category are those who are detained against their will by black magic practitioners and forced to serve their captors, cruelly prevented from crossing over into the next world.

The third category are authorised by a deity or deities to be kept by certain individuals (e.g. priests, monks, spiritual masters) and perform good deeds in their service as a form of penance or spiritual cultivation.

People who keep ghosts belonging to category #1 are guilty of harbouring criminals on the run.

People who keep ghosts belonging to category #2 are guilty of unlawful detention/slavery.

Severe penalties apply to such offenders, so avoid such activities like the plague.
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How are categories #1 and #2 possible? That means the spiritual police are incompetent?
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post Jun 25 2015, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 25 2015, 07:59 AM)
Spirits that inhabit plants can be of many different types.

Some are spirits of dead people.

Others are non human spirits - elemental beings, animal spirits, nature spirits, earth deities, and so on.

The Bamboo Troopers belong to the second category, and are considered to be a homogeneous type of spirit creature - a distinct 'species', if you will.

They could potentially coexist with other types, but have a wild streak that would probably rule this out in most cases.

And yes, they can inhabit all sorts of old growth plants, although bamboo is their favourite haunt.
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That's interesting, because usually in old growth plants, usually there's already a shrine to Datuk Gong.
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post Jun 25 2015, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 25 2015, 12:18 PM)
Datuks fall under the earth deities/nature spirits category.

Not all old growth plants are inhabited by Datuks, by the way.

They may harbour spirits from any category, or even not harbour spirits at all.
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Eh...wasn't it mentioned before that Datuks are mostly historical Malay figures?
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post Jun 26 2015, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 25 2015, 08:52 PM)
Would that really be incompatible with them being earth deities/nature spirits?

Not at all, if you ask me.
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How so? Being an earth deity is more like the Taoist concept of Tu Di Gong. Unless...what the Guai Tan series said is true hehe...that local masters after their death can become the local Tu Di Gong.
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post Jun 28 2015, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 27 2015, 11:02 PM)
Hello blek,

Lord Guan is considered to be a Dharma protector by certain Buddhist sects, a view that Chinese folk religion devotees generally agree with; we therefore offer him vegetarian items only, along with standard incense.

His sacred dates include the 13th day of the 1th lunar month (the date of his ascension), the 13th day of the 5th lunar month (the date he attained enlightenment, which falls tomorrow this year, on the 28th of June) and the 24th day of the 6th lunar month (his birthday); we hold feasts in his honour on these occasions.

The 1st and 15th days of each month are also appropriate times to present him with special treats.

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But wine, sacrificing a black ox and white horse should be fine since he swore the 'Oath of Peach Garden' in the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms, right?
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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Jun 28 2015, 11:07 AM)
For instance, take the practice of datuk worship, since it was obviously a practice rooted in traditional Malay society but since eradicated with the advent of a more conservative brand of Islam. I find it intriguing that the Malaysian Chinese community has adopted and syncretized the practice while many Malays are not aware of its roots.
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Actually I think traditional Malay society just kept it to visiting graves of Islamic mystics or warriors or teachers, but it should be the Chinese which incorporated it into sintua practice by having statues or names of the datuks housed in little shrines, offering joss-sticks and food.
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QUOTE(estcin @ Jul 15 2015, 12:49 PM)
Nacht, can share with us how a person is possessed by ghost? My friend was possessed before and tried to suicide. His voice and face expression turned into an entirely different person. I guess the ghost wanted to reincarnate.
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Why does a ghost need to possess a person to reincarnate?
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Look at what I found...from the Garuda Purana. The Hindus also have the Cow Head and Horse Face. Probably that's where the Buddhists got it since Buddhism is closely related to Hinduism.

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QUOTE(sales.convenience @ Aug 21 2015, 02:01 PM)
Like Bro Natch always say , everyone irregardless of religion , race , nationality likewise goes to the same hell as everyone else does smile.gif
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The Buddhist/Hindu concept of Hell is different from those of the monotheistic religions as it seems the Buddhist/Hindu concept of Hell is not permanent/eternal.
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Aug 25 2015, 11:56 AM)
Welcome to the sintua thread, Prince; make yourself at home. As Chinese folk religion deals with death and the afterlife, and as many of the Hell deities are ghostly creatures, ghostly tales are quite welcome here. biggrin.gif

Since it's the Seventh Month, let's delve into the truth behind a rather well-known ghostly tale.

Can one really earn money by selling salt to ghosts in a cemetery?

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You may be familiar with tales of people going to cemeteries by midnight and earning large fortunes by selling salt to the spirits who reside there.

It doesn't take a genius to realise that these tales are absolute rubbish, and anyone who claims to have achieved such a feat is a liar.

Salt is used in various cultures, including European, Middle Eastern, Indian, Haitian and Japanese cultures, as an exorcism tool - to chase ghosts away.

Selling salt to ghosts would be like selling rat poison to rats.

They have no use for it whatsoever.  rclxub.gif
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I've never heard of this tale regarding selling salt...lol. Yes I can vouch for it that salt is part of the ingredients used in exorcism. In Christianity, especially Catholicism, exorcised salt (salt blessed with exorcism prayers) are placed into water as part of the rite for making holy water.

Perhaps salt is not an exorcism tool in Chinese folk religion..hehe. I have heard of black dog's blood, or blood from certain roosters, but not salt.

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post Sep 12 2015, 12:05 AM

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Can someone explain what's the meaning for the red ribbon with the gold knob and also the 2 colourful things with peacock feathers usually seen in Chinese altars?

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