All this talk of 1080p and TrueHD sound.......you can brag on specs all you want, but unless you can fully utilise it with the right set of equipment like a real 1080p display system and sound system that decode that beastly TrueHD sound everyone been bickering about, then it is no use. It is sad when the fanboys claim victories over another just by shoving whitepaper and specsheets on another opposing fanboy's face, when they themselves are still punching controller buttons over a non-HDTV setup (read: ShitTTV) and computer speakers with crackling subs.

So until i see anyone here with those kinds of setup, with both machines running at the allegedly 1080p and that TrueHD thingamajigs, then please STFU with all this drivel.The Wii folks are laughing all the way to the bank with their underpowered console while the PS3/360 mindless zombies duke it on each other.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Sep 27 2006, 11:02 AM

The statement about 1080p panels priced as much as a Japanese car is not true. The SXRD Sony RPTVs are prices competitively at 16 grand a piece, that statement in InTech refers to LCD Panels and Plasmas only. The SXRDs are ALREADY available at Sony Style KLCC, as well as MediaPlex KLCC.

Me? Im sitting on my ass waiting for the SED technology to bear fruition. As that article in InTech states, unless you sit any less than 2m from the TV screen, you wont notice much difference, plus motion blurs every screen details which negates high resolution advantages.

.....Or maybe i'll just turn on the impatient side of me and see if i can push the current TV i have now out into the bargain bin and get myself on of those SXRDs. Should have enough for one of those by year end, just in time to settle all this pointless bickering about whether 1080p is "all that" and all.

The point is, even on the "yesterday gen" consoles like PS1 and PS2, games like Vagrant Story on PS1 and Shadow of Collossus/God of War on PS2 looks and plays miles better than their flashier, beefier big bros on next gen machines,.......because of gameplay design and art directions. So , i need these next gen consoles to show me more than lens flaring or multipoint light sourcing to entice me. Gamers of the current lot are overexposed to techspecs blitz-pimping , and want more than just gajillion polygon pushing monsters.Ever wonder why Nintendo E3 booth have waiting line up to 3 hours just to get 15 minutes of play on the Wii? It is no longer about graphic whore mongering, folks!

Too bad with all the waiting and penny pinching, you're missing on tons of great games on the 360. For someone is all about the games, i dont think i can wait for the November release for PS3 to play Oblivion, or wait it out till all three consoles are out just to make a supposedly "wiser" decision of waiting things out. Others do not conform to your trains of thought, and belittling them for going their own way, is a bit on the arrogant side IMO. Or are you "waiting it out" for something else,......the Sparrow clan support perhaps, when you speak of "how the support and then buy yourself the one with the most game you want? Hey, im entitled to the assumption isnt it, since you are entitled to your own assumption about the early purchases of others?

I dont go by the numbers, i go where the games go. Comparing numbers and go where the numbers are, IMO, is shallow and stupid. And i think i speak for most of the guys who went with their purchases here, that they are comfortable with their early purchase, rather than waiting it out "just to be safe" like what you are doing. Why, you ask? Because of the games, my dear informed and "play-it-safe" friend, the games.

The bitter pill for you to swallow is that you are not willing to take a chance, and wait till the masses startes dictating your choice, rather thanmake your own decision on which to go for, since you based everything, including your future console purchase , on numerical figures. I guess, reality does bite back once in a while, sint it?

And oh, before you start classifying me just like you classified MZaidi here as an Xbox 360 zealot, i'll pre-empt you and say that i have mine Wii and PS3 on waiting lists. Maybe it is just me, but i just cant turn to my supposedly "wiser" side of me, like where you did, and wait things out till the dust settle before i decide which console to safe-handingly pick. Because i dont want to miss out on Oblivion while waiting the PS3 versiont o be out, because i dont to wait it out while others are enjoying a healthy, community-building relationship with others on with their online friends in 360. Other consoles will have their strengths and weaknesses, PS3 will have the franchises, while Wii will have its unique gameplay, but dissing others for making their console purchases, just because they did not follow the supposedly "wiser" decision of waiting it out like you did, is a little bit on the idiotic side, if i may say it rather "politely".

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 1 2006, 09:07 PM

I predict the next response would be "oh , its because you are rich, and im poor so i have to wait it out and pick only one console" response.

That excuse is fine by me, but dont start going out dissing other people's decision with their console purchases, or their preferences for that matter.You wanna play it safe by waiting it out? fine by me, but critising others with their spending habits, it getting way out of line here. Nobody's shoving their preferences down your throat, so you should not do the same to others too. Numbers sure dont lie, but then again, Proton outsells other cars here but i dont see much customer satisfaction to be had with that car brand now, isnt it? Opening one's mind and choices to other options, in this case, other consoles and their offerings, IMO will help you be more broad-minded with what's offered by these other alternatives. Sure, you may be stuck on one console due to financial basis, but that SHOULD NOT stop you from appreciating that there are equally enjoyable or BETTER offering on other competing console. Closing one's mind on other options, while glorifying one's own leads to the leading Internet-based debilitating disease known as Fanboyism.

It is good to clarify, and from your post, things look a bit clearer now isnt it? <------------------compulsory wink to make sure, everyone gets it that im "provoking" you as well.

The fact is, the future is still unwritten with the next gen consoles. And history also shows that you cannot depends on past history to predict the distant future. If you have been in gaming forums often enough, and not only a particularly polarized forums like the cordoned sections we have here ( PS2/Xbox/Gamecube for their respective fanatics, and with only very few who traverse between three of them and hold equal objectivity and likings to all three of these consoles ), you will see that the interest in PS3 and its launch lineup is lukewarm at best, while overwhelming Wii is THE Christmas present everyone wants this year. This is a total opposite to the last gen when PS2 was THE item to get .

My point here is that, you are comparing apples and oranges. you are comparing sales of Xbox 360 against a well-established current gen console/portable which has proven track records and established IPs and franchises. Of course the adoption of new technology is going to be slower than a current technology everyone's comfortable with. Do you see people rushing to buy HD-DVD/BluRay drives/players now, when they are comfortable with their DVD players? And that figure you posted is way back in April, which is 6 months AFTER the initial launch of the xbox 360, i urge you to dig up the info during those launch periods and post them here for a much more fair comparison. And i dont have to post about Xbox360 dismal performance in Japan. A US 360 launch window sales figure would be a fair comparison.

As for the sales figure discrepancy between a next gen console and a next gen portable, of course people feel more comfortable parting with the lower priced item, than a more pricier item. also, bear in mind that the installed userbase for the NDS is larger than the 360, and from human nature, people feel more comfortable flocking to the subject that more agree or subscribe to than the unconventional but radical ones. Only a couple few, see beyond the usual, and see the potential a newer technology hold, while the rest waits and see if the tech is mass-adopted by the Average Joes and Janes. Some are meant to pioneer, others are meant to be followers.....

Hey, that pioneer/follower statement holds true to one of the machine you considered, the PS3 innit, its Bluray and all? Im just saying that as a broad general statement, not directed at particular invidual, rather its directed at these console devs in particular.

Fine for me if you want to play the waiting game, but some rather not let the opportunity passes them by. Heck, i'd say that you pay extra for that extra few months of experiencing what the best these consoles have to offer, so it's a fair tradeoff for me. *shrugs*

I mean, i get your stance on playing the waiting game, but we all dont think alike. Those who got their consoles early are not necessarily more lavish and brash with their expenditure, some are more passionate about the games they play, which made them get their wanted console early. Nothing to do with their financial status whatsoever, we have school students and struggling young parents that does not fit into the "rich" category. Maybe these folks are more passionate about their games than you? I mean, people prioritize their lives according what they can and cannot live without, and what they have to get ASAP and what they can abstain (read: puasa) from getting, maybe your gaming priorities arent as important as these folks?

P/S: Of course, priorities all go down the drain once Sparrow-branded discs are widely available, since you can easily use-and-throw these items thanks to their nature.

Ot: Sparrow = Jack Sparrow = notorious gay-walking pirate in Pirates of Caribbean = pirates = lanun cetak rompak = Uncle Ho.

Since you elaborate it that way, fair enough then. That comment of yours regarding games not enticing enough i agree, as well as go where the games are going, no particular console allegiance whatsoever.It's a loss to narrow down your choices to a particular console when there are tons other fun alternatives out there. Same goes with food, girls, and sexual positions.

I thought Sparrow clans eat dried salted fish and stale rum? Modern Sparrows aa? Plus, it's fasting woh and you're posting this at 8am! Naughty, naughty!

Looks who's generalizing who. Classic "Pot calling the kettle black" moment here, folks!

Do you keep tab on what i said, in order to bring it up in future "re-engagements" with me? Wow, someone do need to get a life. Nowhere in this thread had i brought up the issue of Konka/Kongkek 14 inch TVs, but some people had to bring it up to buffer up his assault.

that pst i wrote was "an eye for an eye, blood for blood". You posted about "the show is over while you have popcorn and coke in hand" in jest, so i posted the " sparrow kind" remark as retaliation. An eye for an eye, a pound of flesh for a pound of flesh, fair and square. Both remarks posted in general, not quoting or directed at anyone, unless orang tu terasa lah, which in this case, you felt the heat cos apparently you are the subset of the people i mentioned in my previous post. But did i brought up Konka TV sets? Nope, but hey, if you feel comfortable pandering past quotes of me to support your Sparrow-like cause ( i can call you Sparrow crewmate now right, since you admitted to the thing? ), then be my guest. Coz as long as there is still the likes of you here in the country, there wont be much progress of getting any sort of official support for our consoles here.

Since we're bringing up old, stale remarks and issues here, i'll keep it in theme. Werent you banned before for a certain piracy issue , before you come back crawling here after your banned period? How apt, blocked out of the watering hole, and come crawling back through your wormhole. Oh well, after all, you NEEd to be here to spread your "support free trade, hack the planet, play for free not for a fee" propaganda right? Just to make your daily life feel a little bit more meaningful perhaps.

P/S: I cooked my own chicken yesterday, in fact, ayam masak merah dengan kacang peas. I remembered paying for my house loan last week at BCB, and certainly made my car payments last week to as well. Brought my family to live with me, coz i dont want to be left out of the life in the city, yet i still do my part in bringing the food on to the table with the wages i earned. As for getting the action from pixelated Rumble Roses XXX, that's "virtually" nonexistant (pun intended) since being in the company of beautiful ladies of the sky negates any need for that. Perhaps you can tell me what's so exciting about this game, since you mentioned it much. And oh, nice gamertag by the way, very campy and tacky!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 2 2006, 12:03 PM

Lerrr, takkan internet line also so poor kut? Sampai the picture also blur like 480i image of your Konka 14 inch TV set!

Try this for size:-



And for a better quality image of the poor 480i interlaced analog TV version of snipersnake's Konka TV quality image post, here's my 720p/1080i HDTV resolution version:-



And people wonder why i scoff against Konka TV sets!

LOL seems like if you cant get the guy, you get them by his marital status? Your Indah Water tak bayar ke, until run out of ideas? Even dig up old dried wells to bring up dried-old threads.

Nice quotings of my post though, you make a great picture framemaker one day when/if you decide to quit yer scurvy pirating one of these days. Too bad all qoute and no response makes even Davy Jones a dried salted calamari. Try a little bit more substance in your post next time, aku puasa gaks, tapi i got my post filled with things to talk about. Tiptoeing around your post to make cause seem legit eh? Gambatte, you can do better than that!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 2 2006, 07:10 PM