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lapaq
post Oct 1 2006, 06:13 PM

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  relax..  
but anyway,comparing gameplay/graphics is not fair,but in terms of sales,ps2 still outsells xbox360,right?(correct me if this is wrong...  )


Media Create Hardware (from 2006-09-11 to 2006-09-17)
week's sales

1. Nintendo DS lite 139,835
2. PlayStation 2 32,673
3. PSP 23,118
4. Game Boy Advance SP 2,145
5. Game Boy micro 1,186
6. Xbox360 1,109
7. GameCube 763
8. DS 316
9. Game Boy Advance 20
10. Xbox 8

Yes, you are right..infact PS2 outsold xbox360 by almost 32 times.

p/s: lapaq thought that he should contribute some facts in return after having a good laugh reading thru this thread from the begining.

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post Oct 1 2006, 08:26 PM

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Media Create is Japanese site, and those sales number are taken based on console sales in Japan. Of course Xbox 360 sales is way too low.


This US sales chart was based off Aprils figure. As US don't really like to make a weekly tally of their hardware sales there aren't any recent sales figure that I can find.

The hardware sales for US consoles has been released, here's how it broke down, in terms of total unit sales and difference (in percentage) from April:

PlayStation 2: 232,000 ( 12.1%)
Sony PSP: 159,659 ( 17.1%)
Nintendo DS: 145,930 ( 5.4%)
Xbox 360: 221,000 ( 25%)
GameCube: 33,000 ( 13.2%)
Xbox One: 26,000 ( 33.3%)

Don't be mad doh.gif at me for showing Jap score (seeing that u owned an Xbox360, I can see why wink.gif . )

Why I gave Jap sales figure? It 's because we are Asian we based our numbers on Japan's numbers.

And you can also see that US figures also gives the same impression. Xbox360 sales aren't that great too. And this is in April where sales of X360 was still strong. Now consoles sales are not that strong as people are in a wait-and-see state for PS3 and Wii launch.

Source: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/06/09/us-hardw...60-takes-a-dip/

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post Oct 1 2006, 08:52 PM

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Xbox 360 is still considered expensive. Other consoles (eg, PS2) are selling at less than a 1/3 price of Xbox 360. That's why older consoles are still selling well. To be fair, why not see the worldwide sales figure? That way we can see the overall picture. 


there is no way we can see a worldwide sales figure. as there isn't a body or an org that keep track of the figures. usually, the only way to get a worldwide sales figure is from the manufacturer themselves (i.e. Sony, MS and Nintendo) but we can't really trust them can't we. What we need is figures from a third party like what I have shown you.

And based on the two figures (US & JAP), you can still see sort of the same pattern. NDS and PS2 being on top. Combining the above two figures is the closest that you can get to Worldwide figures. If you are to add in Europe figures, you'll add in Sony figures more...and you'll be even more 'unhappy' as Europe is a Sony land.

Expensive is not an issue here, Why is the NDS selling so well eventhough the GBA is so much cheaper than NDS?

The same applies to PS2 and X360. Just swallow the bitter pill mate. Numbers don't lie

p/s: I'm not against and pro any consoles. i'm still waiting till mid 2007 till I bought me a next gen consoles. That is what I've been doing since the Mega Drive/SNES era. See first how's the support and then Buy me the one with the most game that I want.

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post Oct 1 2006, 09:35 PM

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but dissing others for making their console purchases, just because they did not follow the supposedly "wiser" decision of waiting it out like you did, is a little bit on the idiotic side, if i may it "politely".


First of all, I'm not dissing so you don't have to be so 'defensive'. it just a matter of kidding/joking (for the lack of a better word 'provoking') with mzaidi. you can noticed that I put a 'wink' at my stmt to zaidi.

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I dont go by the numbers, i go where the games go. Comparing numbers and go where the numbers are, IMO, is shallow and stupid.


I agree.

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informed and "play-it-safe"


Thanks for the compliment. I tend to play it safe as I'm not as wealthy as some guys who can buy a console when ever they come out.

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and wait till the masses startes dictating your choice, rather than make your own decision on which to go for, since you based everything, including your future console purchase , on numerical figures.


This is where you get me wrong. When I gave out them figures, It doesn't mean that I let others dictate what I'm buying up to the point of basing my decision solely on the sales figures. I like to wait for a while to see what are the games that will be coming out and those that have come out.

While it is good that you really liked Oblivion and decided to buy the x360 and play it there. It looks like we share the same passion for great games though I played it using my PC and oblivion is not enough reason for me to purchase x360.

While I don't know why you just bombarded me with all this but I can see how 'defensive' people can be When a certain things is not 'ngam' with them. In this case the Xbox360 sales figure.

The main point that I brought is was that the NDS and PS2 sales is better than that of the X360 and prices is but one of the many reason and not the only reason like what mzaidi said in the previous post.

You can also see that mzaidi quickly jumped at the figures by saying that I purposely used Japan figures because Jap don't like X360 where as I never meant it to be like that.

The reason why I used the figures from Jap is that it is the easiest that I can get off hand cause I have it bookmarked.

and at the last bit of my post, I stated that I'm not into any next gen consoles at the moment as I'm still thinking which consoles will give me the most value for my time and hard earned money. It actually means that I'm not dissing any NDS, PS2, PSP X360 or even GBA owners out there as I don't even own a next gen consoles yet...how could I be dissing them if I myself don't even own anything next gen yet.

Please, Don't turn this into another X360 fanboys Vs PS3 fanboys thread.

p/s: I dont know why but my post counter never goes up eventhough I have posted so many times...anybody knows why?

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post Oct 1 2006, 10:12 PM

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Thanks for the info on the post counts zaidi...

Glad to hear that you've taken no offence and my apologies should you felt 'uneasy' with my post. cheers.gif

In buying them next gen consoles, The only thing that is stopping me from buying now is to see the PS3 Network support. if it is as robust as X360 then I'm buying the PS3 but if it is somewhat inferior to X360 live then buy X360 first.

Then, the moment I can afford another console, I'll go for X360...Wii can wait...Unless they come out with something that I really want.
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post Oct 1 2006, 11:27 PM

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The fact is, the future is still unwritten with the next gen consoles. And history also shows that you cannot depends on past history to predict the distant future. If you have been in gaming forums often enough, and not only a particularly polarized forums like the cordoned sections we have here ( PS2/Xbox/Gamecube for their respective fanatics, and with only very few who traverse between three of them and hold equal objectivity and likings to all three of these consoles ), you will see that the interest in PS3 and its launch lineup is lukewarm at best, while overwhelming Wii is THE Christmas present everyone wants this year. This is a total opposite to the last gen when PS2 was THE item to get .
I somewhat agree that Wii is THE christmas gift and and PS3 launch lineup is lukewarm at best. But for PS3 IMHO the following 2-4 month after the launch is where most of the better games will start to come out.

That is why I'm waiting till mid 07 to make up my mind.

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My point here is that, you are comparing apples and oranges. you are comparing sales of Xbox 360 against a well-established current gen console/portable which has proven track records and established IPs and franchises.


after reading this a few times, I still don't get it as to why you brought up this point. I never compare between the two to prove anything. I'm merely replying to a post by, mgsrulz. I totally agree. You can't compare between ps2 and X360. you can compare ps2 and X1 or ps3 and X360 or NDS and PSP (though NDS and PSP is not exactly Apple-to-apple)

As for you last para, Generally I have nothing to comment.

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Only a couple few, see beyond the usual, and see the potential a newer technology hold, while the rest waits and see if the tech is mass-adopted by the Average Joes and Janes. Some are meant to pioneer, others are meant to be followers.....


But for the above stmt, I can only say good for you to think so...please excuse me for a few minutes to have a good laugh wink.gif
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post Oct 2 2006, 12:48 AM

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P/S: Of course, priorities all go down the drain once Sparrow-branded discs are widely available, since you can easily use-and-throw these items thanks to their nature.


Um...Excuse my noobness here. I really don't get this sparrow-branded thingy you mentioned....twice already. can u explain please...

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Heck, i'd say that you pay extra for that extra few months of experiencing what the best these consoles have to offer, so it's a fair tradeoff for me. *shrugs*


I agree that is why I bought myself a c2d the minute it came out. I'm also one of the few fortunate enough to own a Sega Saturn when it first came out. It is worth it to pay a little extra for that extra few months of experiencing what the best these consoles have to offer. So you can say I can 'feel' what you're feeling now.

But, like I said you don't have to be so defensive about it. I never said anything bad about it. I just stated that, for me, I wanna wait first.

It is only fair that you have bought it. There is no need to be so defensive. If you would have said that you bought it because you wanted it...that is fine by me and that is enough to make me understand the whole thing. There is no need to justify with any of the above reasoning.

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maybe your gaming priorities arent as important as these folks?


Well it is not my gaming priotities but it is the features/games of these consoles that is lacking. I just don't find it 'enticing' enough for me to warrant an immediate buy. There is nothing against todays consoles but I just don't fancy them enough to make me go and buy them yet.

p/s: I think we're going a bit off topic here... blush.gif

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post Oct 2 2006, 12:55 AM

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holy crap...
talk about off topic discussions laugh.gif

from 1080p to br to br movies to console sales to fanboyism...this thread has it all! party.gif laugh.gif  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif  rclxm9.gif  laugh.gif
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I concur...Does Lowyat.net have awards given to Most Off-topic Thread or sumthing like that?
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post Oct 2 2006, 01:03 AM

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Well, I has been good discussion string...It is great to know that there are still a fellow forumer like you which are very engaging and enlightning to 'chat' with.till we meet again.

p/s: lapaq is not a very frequent visitor of this forum. He only visits when he got nothing else better to do and since he still don't have enough money to replace his lost VGA card, he will remain bored as he can't continue playing Oblivion which has actually sucked his life away till his wife 'merajuk to balik kampung kalau tak berenti main oblivion'.
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post Oct 2 2006, 01:26 AM

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How did you lose your VGA card? Your wife takes it because you can't stop playing Oblivion?


I actually sold it as I upgraded from socket 478 (AGP) to c2d (PCIE). Now saving enough money to buy me a decent card next mth as this month already burnt too big a hole buying mobo+c2d+ram. now only using ati x550 as temporary measure.

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Play oblivion until no time to play with the wife LOL


That is excatly what my wife keeps telling me!!!!!

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