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 proper technique to stop a manual car, free gear,stop or clutch,brake,free gear

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emechelmi
post Sep 26 2006, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Sep 26 2006, 09:59 AM)

When traffic jam, here's what i do:
-step on brake
-step on clutch
-when wanna move, shift to lower gear(*probably 1st gear), release brake, lighten up ur clutch, and ur car wil move a lil`.
-when the car in front of u slow down again/stop, press ur clutch down again, and step on ur brake again.

in this way, u don hav to apply ur pedal, thus u don havta waste alot of fuel in traffic jam, but ur car will be moving very slowly.
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but my car weighs almost 1.5ton. So I have to apply a little gas in order to move the car from standstill. your statement might be true for a lightweight supermini car like Kancil. When I was in driving school, I did the same too with driving school's Kancil and 120Y. Their idle rpm is tuned a little bit high to avoid stalling (usually occurred when newbie trainees don't know how to play with clutch).
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post Sep 26 2006, 01:26 PM

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if the traffic is moving very very slowly, you can actually just engage in second gear and let your car roll slowly, instead of pressing/releasing the clutch pedal all the time. But you have to time yourself so that you are neither too close nor too far from the car in front.
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post Sep 26 2006, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(emechelmi @ Sep 26 2006, 12:45 PM)
but my car weighs almost 1.5ton. So I have to apply a little gas in order to move the car from standstill. your statement might be true for a lightweight supermini car like Kancil. When I was in driving school, I did the same too with driving school's Kancil and 120Y. Their idle rpm is tuned a little bit high to avoid stalling (usually occurred when newbie trainees don't know how to play with clutch).
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a lorry? rclxms.gif but i supposed if its that heavy, it should be running on a v10 or v12 flex.gif , which in wad i understand, should also be very powerful. its just that, if u apply this, then its gonna be valy valy slow for the car to move.

kancil and kelisa in driving academy hav their throttle adjust to a higher rpm. so the idle rpm might be 1.5k, which is impossible for the car to "die" even if u lift the clutch too soon. so u wont fail lo~ biggrin.gif

QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Sep 26 2006, 02:26 PM)
if the traffic is moving very very slowly, you can actually just engage in second gear and let your car roll slowly, instead of pressing/releasing the clutch pedal all the time. But you have to time yourself so that you are neither too close nor too far from the car in front.
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i usually engage in 1st gear during traffic jam, and didn apply acceleration pedal. this is coz my car has small displacement.

QUOTE(darrencw @ Sep 26 2006, 11:39 AM)
Drifting technique also roughly like this.but need to apply handbrake only right?
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to drift rclxm9.gif (*around 100km/h - 5th gear):
1st, step on brake pedal
2nd, press clutch,
3rd, turn to the direction you wanna go to
4th, pull handbrake, shift to 2nd gear (*though valy stiff, juz force it in)
5th, counter steer and rev ur car, (*by that, i mean step hard on the acceleration pedal)
6th, when u c the exit (*by that i mean a straight line), SMILE!!! biggrin.gif
th, release clutch, release brake, let go the steering wheel abit, and grab back when u know its in straight line...

the next thing u know... u r DK!!! thumbup.gif

This post has been edited by don^don: Sep 26 2006, 03:08 PM
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post Sep 26 2006, 03:58 PM

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a lorry? 


it's still a car. A '74 volvo 144 to be exact. kerb weight already 1300kg.

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but i supposed if its that heavy, it should be running on a v10 or v12

it's running on a 2L 4 cyl engine with single carb. Idle rpm normally set at 700-900rpm but peak torque only comes at 3000 rpm. Peak HP is only 97HP at 5700 rpm.

the transmission gear ratios are designed to enable highway cruising/overtaking without having to change gear quite often (4 speed), not to crawl in traffic jams (late 60's automotive engineering philosophy). with such gear ratio and idle rpm, i need to step a little gas. the plus point is, i don't need to press more than half of pedal travel at highway speed.
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post Sep 27 2006, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Sep 26 2006, 01:26 PM)
if the traffic is moving very very slowly, you can actually just engage in second gear and let your car roll slowly, instead of pressing/releasing the clutch pedal all the time. But you have to time yourself so that you are neither too close nor too far from the car in front.
does not apply to all cars

at least mine wont work in traffic jam with 2nd gear, i need to use 1st gear. 2nd gear will stall, or i need to rev more compare to 1st gear.
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post Sep 29 2006, 12:02 AM

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if your car has ABS
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slam on the brake right before any corner
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but of course, your pads lifespan will be shorter la
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post Oct 16 2006, 05:09 PM

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hit hard on the brake (but dun locked it) down-shift untill you reach first gear+car almost stopped at the same time, then onli move into free gear~ hold the brake untill the car stopped sompletely biggrin.gif~ rclxms.gif
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post Oct 17 2006, 04:48 AM

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the best way to stop a manual car is still heel & toe i think......i m practising this since i was able to do it in my car now...hehe....i like MT...lolz
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post Nov 27 2006, 12:49 AM

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What about Engine braking?
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post Nov 27 2006, 01:44 PM

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Engine braking? Doesn't will cause engine wear too?
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post Nov 27 2006, 01:52 PM

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I only do engine braking only when going downhill.... which one is cheaper to replace, engine or the brake pads...dun overstress ur engine.
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post Nov 27 2006, 03:25 PM

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Can i says something STUPID ???..

How to stop a car with a proper tecnique ..

As long as u stop before hearing a bang.. :-P.

To me.. brake 1st.
2nd Apply Clutch. to standstill.

During Speeding..
Downshift .. engine braking.. Heel and toe.. (TALK only .. seldom do) .. finally brake.. to a halt.
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post Nov 28 2006, 05:12 AM

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guys...i hav a ques
when u press on de clutch, arent the gears hav been disengage?
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post Nov 28 2006, 05:17 AM

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yes the gears will be disengage when u press the clutch, basically its on Neutral
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post Nov 28 2006, 09:17 AM

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Whatever the case, just DON'T tailgate, keep a distance from the car in front and break early for a safer stop.
But the best way to stop when reaching traffic is just drop one gear and and press the brakes. I always use this way to stop. Just make use of the engine brake.
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post Nov 28 2006, 11:24 AM

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Dun ride on the clutch! press cluth while driving or when the car is moving..it will wear out your clutch plate!
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post Nov 28 2006, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(hypermount @ Nov 28 2006, 11:24 AM)
Dun ride on the clutch! press cluth while driving or when the car is moving..it will wear out your clutch plate!
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So.. Does that means.. i drive without pressing the clutch i wont wear it out ?? tongue.gif
(trying to be stupid) .. hahaa laugh.gif

He is rite thou .. when the car is moving smoothly .. release the clutch totally.. and dun put ur foot on it...
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post Nov 28 2006, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Chartry @ Sep 22 2006, 10:57 PM)
There is a question I want to ask.

I see alot of people driving manual car will free the gear first before applying brake to stop the car but last time when Im in the driving academy, my instructor taught me to press the clutch and brake till the car stop and then only free the gear.

Which one is the right way because my instructor scold me when i use the first technique
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It depends on the cruising speed and rpm. when you driving on highspeed, need to brake accidentally, you need to first brake and then press the cluth with transmission. if you know what i mean. if driving at low speed and certain distance from car infront, you can play with the clutch first to free gear and need not to press gear, it depends still, because if you veteran driver, you can sense how fast is the car driving right infront of you. Why do ppl not press the gear sometimes, because once you press the clutch, that will decrease your rpm ratio thus cost your more fuel effiency. Hope this point of view of mine could help smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2006, 02:01 AM

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break the car............ i like the idea.......looking for a chance to try it out haha...........

pressing the clutch all the time when u braking.......it's meaning less......

best, let the engine help u to break; when u almost stop onlt shift to N, but remember to match the rpm a bit before engaging gears again if u still rolling ( moving lar)

my dad always drive like that, the brake pad sets last him for 10yrs before he borrow the car for me.......... used till almost finish.....

but autocars brake pad very fast wear out though..........
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QUOTE(LExus65 @ Nov 29 2006, 02:01 AM)
break the car............ i like the idea.......looking for a chance to try it out haha...........

pressing the clutch all the time when u braking.......it's meaning less......

best, let the engine help u to break; when u almost stop onlt shift to N, but remember to match the rpm a bit before engaging gears again if u still rolling ( moving lar)

my dad always drive like that, the brake pad sets last him for 10yrs before he borrow the car for me.......... used till almost finish.....

but autocars brake pad very fast wear out though..........
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You gotta be kidding me with that Brake Pads set last for 10 years?? shocking.gif

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