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post Sep 22 2006, 10:57 PM, updated 20y ago

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There is a question I want to ask.

I see alot of people driving manual car will free the gear first before applying brake to stop the car but last time when Im in the driving academy, my instructor taught me to press the clutch and brake till the car stop and then only free the gear.

Which one is the right way because my instructor scold me when i use the first technique
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post Sep 22 2006, 11:19 PM

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press the break first witout pressing the clutch, once u fell that ur car gonna jerk, press the clutch and lower ur gear , than release the clutch and wait until ur car feel like gonna jerk and drop another gear. doing all that while pressing the break.
this will spare ur clutch and brake lifetime.
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post Sep 22 2006, 11:42 PM

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Free-ing the gear (*shifting to N) is for N cruising, which means when u r cruising on high speed, or are going down from a high ground like fly-over, shifting to N will let the car cruise by itself, while not reducing the speed that dramatically.

proper techniq to brake the car is like what foxx3001 said,
-step on the brake pedal until the car's engine ALMOST jerks (*reach a very low rpm that the throttle is insufficient to move the car), while not stepping on the clutch
-shift down a gear, and release the clutch
-repeat step 1, and then 2, until ur car reaches 1st gear, and stop.

what ppl love doing is (*which is not recommended coz it'l reduce ur brake pad's lifespan)
-cruising in N (*free gear)
-step on brake gradually when nearing destination (*or junction, or whatever)
-steps harder until cars stop "cun cun" accurately at the place that u desire.

what i does is,
-cruise on N when not driving high speed
-does not step on brake pedal at all, coz i duno y, but my calculation is always accurate, and the car will stop when reaching junction. (*edit: might need to step slightly on the brake though)

extra info:
when driving at high speed and needs to stop drastically(*this is also used to avoid accidents, like cars that stop suddenly, or bikes that "die fire" suddenly)
-imagine you are speeding at 120km/h, 5th gear
-step on clutch and shift to 4th gear, release clutch, step on brake pedal
-next 2 seconds, step on clutch and shift to 3rd gear, release clutch, step on brake pedal again.
-repeat til 2nd gear, and your car has most probably slowed down drastically to around 20km/h ~ 40km/h, depending on your timing and skill.

this skill is call gear-braking, is taught in BMW driving academy. given situation is:
-there's a trailer which turn over suddenly in front of you
-you're 6 seconds behind him, cruising with 66m/h
-you need to stop ur car in 5 seconds

its impossible to step on the brake pedal to stop the car in 5 seconds. handbrake is out of the though of coz. so u'l need to slow down ur car drastically, and turn ur car when nearing it.

This post has been edited by don^don: Sep 22 2006, 11:43 PM
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post Sep 23 2006, 09:40 AM

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Great explaination, bravoooo
it's a normal habit , break while pressing the clutch.

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post Sep 23 2006, 10:03 AM

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not to me.... i won't free gear or clutch when slowing down the car...
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post Sep 23 2006, 12:16 PM

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thanx for the praise. wil always try to help. i'm still valy noobies though. biggrin.gif

eng98, what you do is actually the correct way, and recommended. its just that, that's my bad habit la... haha~
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:01 PM

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What i did is, when wanted to stop, push the gear to N, or lower gear then hit the brake abit just to slow down the car.

Always drop gear when there is a sudden stop infront of you.

Do not step brake as hard as u can, this will get ur spin 360 degree*xx times

also, press brake to stop car at average speed/high speed normaly will increase the Fuel comsumption,

This post has been edited by Shock: Sep 24 2006, 02:24 PM
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:07 PM

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it's brake, not break. smile.gif

btw what about downhill slopes, like when want to pay parking.

since the gravity is pulling the car downwards and the movement is quite often just like few feet at once.

normally i use brake only. let go brake to move. step on brake to stop. no clutch / gear involved.
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:11 PM

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ever seen the driver in the BMW movies? those are proper braking techniques
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post Sep 23 2006, 04:12 PM

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yup in drving school, the instructor also asked me to step on the clutch before steping on the brakes for the car to stop.......
anyway, drive auto is better la
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post Sep 23 2006, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Sep 23 2006, 05:07 PM)
it's brake, not break. smile.gif

btw what about downhill slopes, like when want to pay parking.

since the gravity is pulling the car downwards and the movement is quite often just like few feet at once.

normally i use brake only. let go brake to move. step on brake to stop. no clutch / gear involved.
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rclxms.gif break the car! nice...

anyway, yeah, at slopes, i supposed everyone will do that, including me.
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post Sep 24 2006, 02:25 PM

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lol, sorry dude, just woke up at that time ^^
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post Sep 24 2006, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Shock @ Sep 23 2006, 04:01 PM)
What i did is, when wanted to stop, push the gear to N, or lower gear then hit the brake abit just to slow down the car.

Always drop gear when there is a sudden stop infront of you.

Do not step brake as hard as u can, this will get ur spin 360 degree*xx times

also, press brake to stop car at average speed/high speed normaly will increase the Fuel comsumption,
braking does not increase fuel consumption... that is purely misconseption

re-accelerating after hardbraking requires driver to press the gas paddle more... that's where the fuel consumption comes into the picture. but it's not that obvious though... ECU is much more efficient that what people could think of, in managing fuel system of course.

QUOTE(evilhomura89 @ Sep 23 2006, 04:12 PM)
yup in drving school, the instructor also asked me to step on the clutch before steping on the brakes for the car to stop.......
anyway, drive auto is better la
driving at low speed can la. with clutch pressed, you're just putting braking power on the wheels. that increases brakepad wear. if you brake without stepping the clutch, you're doing engine braking as well. you can see the rpm drops tremendously.


This post has been edited by soulfly: Sep 24 2006, 11:17 PM
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post Sep 24 2006, 11:43 PM

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drop down the gear and press the brake simultaneously
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Actually it's correct to shift down lower gear + applying some brake when U doesn't want to burden the brakepad and tyres.....

and in case if you are on high speed and want to slow down ur car asap, follow what did Don^Don said .....for me, If I'm in the 5th gear mode, I will shift to 3rd gear and release clutch + hit the brake harder than usual...and hence I quickly change to 2nd gear + brake...afterall, It's depend on ur driving skill....when U shift to lower gear and U feel the car starts lowering the speed b4 ur meter hit high RPM, that is the moment U need to apply much brake....this will decrease ur speed lots....
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post Sep 25 2006, 01:57 PM

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if time permit i'll try to blip abit throttle when down-shifting and braking so tat the car won't jerk too much when down shifting...
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post Sep 25 2006, 09:21 PM

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errr, how bout if i brake until car almost or stop already then faster clutch and free gear ? issit the rigth way ma ?
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Obviously one need to brake a lot while in traffic jam. But Do you step on the clutch when braking too? I heard too much stepping on the clutch is not good.
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post Sep 26 2006, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Atlantis @ Sep 25 2006, 10:21 PM)
errr, how bout if i brake until car almost or stop already then faster clutch and free gear ? issit the rigth way ma ?
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ur car will probably jerk alot, if you're not stepping on the clutch (*i mean stepping, not releasing).

QUOTE(lauyah @ Sep 26 2006, 04:13 AM)
Obviously one need to brake a lot while in traffic jam. But Do you step on the clutch when braking too? I heard too much stepping on the clutch is not good.
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stepping on clutch while braking will wear and tear your clutch's skin. its not recommended if you're at junction or crossroads.

i only step on clutch and brake only at junction cornering, that is to prepare myself to shift to a lower gear when exiting corners.

When traffic jam, here's what i do:
-step on brake
-step on clutch
-when wanna move, shift to lower gear(*probably 1st gear), release brake, lighten up ur clutch, and ur car wil move a lil`.
-when the car in front of u slow down again/stop, press ur clutch down again, and step on ur brake again.

in this way, u don hav to apply ur pedal, thus u don havta waste alot of fuel in traffic jam, but ur car will be moving very slowly.

This post has been edited by don^don: Sep 26 2006, 10:01 AM
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post Sep 26 2006, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(don^don @ Sep 22 2006, 11:42 PM)

extra info:
when driving at high speed and needs to stop drastically(*this is also used to avoid accidents, like cars that stop suddenly, or bikes that "die fire" suddenly)
-imagine you are speeding at 120km/h, 5th gear
-step on clutch and shift to 4th gear, release clutch, step on brake pedal
-next 2 seconds, step on clutch and shift to 3rd gear, release clutch, step on brake pedal again.
-repeat til 2nd gear, and your car has most probably slowed down drastically to around 20km/h ~ 40km/h, depending on your timing and skill.

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Drifting technique also roughly like this.but need to apply handbrake only right?

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