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 Proton Prevé V22, Venturing into 3rd anniversary!

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minizian
post Dec 28 2014, 01:02 AM

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Does anyone actually have the manual version of preve and how does it compare to persona apart from the much more superior safety features of preve. If one wanna vroom in is it offering performance or i need to go to get satria neo to get that thrill? Does, the new engine eliminated the torque dip in the campro cps?

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post Mar 4 2015, 01:11 AM

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Tested driven again my uncle car around the road at nottingham uni/broga area. When compared to my honda city, preve eat my car for breakfast in cornering. To be honest CVT car is nice to drive if you drive it differently (driven other cvt car before for sometime). He as a car nut thinks that preve is the best value for money car in Malaysia due to our crazy tax structure smile.gif

Couldnt bother playing the paddle shift apart when i needed the extra engine breaking. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 4 2015, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Mar 4 2015, 05:45 AM)
Even I haven't played with the paddle shifter much, because the basic performance is already very good, kudos to Proton
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 4 2015, 09:12 AM)
The operation of the paddle shift of the Preve Turbo is crude and quite useless due to the gear ratios that are fixed too closely to each other. Nevertheless, I still use it in my everyday driving as I prefer the manual gear shifting than D in low speed acceleration.
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If i not mistaken someone here or suprima thread mention that the whole thing is more efficient if you leave it in D or S. Last time when i first got my first cvt car with 7 speed manual I was like jakun mode. But after playing it and compare it with normal D/S mode i conclude that the whole thing is best leave at D/S unless i need extra ommph from engine braking. Actually CVT is quite enjoyable to drive if you drive it the way it suppose to be instead of driving like you do with normal slush automatic gearbox thumbup.gif Proton should have get better supplier for CVT instead of punch rclxub.gif Any upgrade to engine power will be canceled off by the durability of punch gearbox doh.gif

I do agree that basic performance is more than enough for daily drive, just wish that they will release the manual CFE. What the hell happend to it? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif the last time i heard is that they were trying to figure out how to prevent the ESC interfering driving manual car. That what i heard straight out of horse mouth. doh.gif

After drove my uncle car, i felt like my car cant perform well in any sense when come to handling and performance. cry.gif Closest to this is my mom waja (that need some new absorber to handle my driving lol) rolleyes.gif

Also I checked that there are few of members here who had manual preve, wondering what is their feedback on the car. For sure performance wise will loose to CFE variant. thorrellius, ZeroHavoc, yoshiki81

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post Mar 4 2015, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 4 2015, 01:37 PM)
It depends on what you mean by it's more "efficient" if the gear is left at D or S. Automatic transmissions are purely for convenience as you just step on the pedal and don't need to worry about upshifting or downshifting the gears, as in manual gear transmission. The only reason I use the paddle shifters instead of leaving the car in D is I don't like the throttle response of the car when accelerating from standstill or during low speed acceleration. There is this dragging or heavy feel of the car when accelerating from standstill or bumper to bumper crawl traffic jams. You need to step on the pedal more if you want the car to move forward, otherwise the car wont' move forward. This lag in the acceleration due to the throttle response coupled by the engine roar in D gives the heavy or dragging feel of the car.

When using manual gears, accelerating from gear 1 or 2 is more instantaneous. There is less drag or "heavy feel" during acceleration from standstill with the paddle shifters(manual gears), and the car feels lighter.

But in terms of performance as in quick acceleration off the blocks from 0 to 100km/h, the D is much better. YOu can feel the Turbo power kicking in if you accelerate the car in D. The car seems to accelerate slower if you use the manual gear shifters, as if the Turbo isn't working.

FWIW the paddle shifters are only practical for speeds of up to 80km/h. The RPMs are above 2000 at the highest gear 7 which isn't economical. I use the manual shifters all the time when the vehicle speed is 80km/h and below. I only switch from manual to D whenever the speed of my car is above 80km/h, or when I am on the mobile phone.
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The delay is preve gearbox in D is consider very low (infect it is consider very good, suprima S gearbox will be even better due to better hardware), I driven Mitsu Outlander (bigger version of ASX) overseas and that the CVT performance is worse than even my Honda city old CVT gearbox doh.gif

It be icing on the cake if proton used torque converter instead of clutch, as a result there always slight delay when u put D and the moment the car start rolling forward as time taken for the clutch to engage.
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post Mar 5 2015, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Mar 5 2015, 08:42 AM)
If you have driven the Honda City, then you would have an idea on the difference in throttle response between the City and Preve Turbo when accelerating from standstill. Although there is still a very slight delay in the City when accelerating from standstill, the responsiveness is better than the Preve Turbo. Just a light step on the accelerator the car will move forward. Unlike the Preve where you cannot lightly step on the car but put more force on the pedal before the car will move forward. Nevertheless, when it comes to acceleration power, handling and driving dynamics the City is no match for the Preve Turbo.

Spot on this one, the delay in city on startup is higher than preve. The "more force on the pedal" in preve vs city can be really see when going on hill, my city will just automatically rev higher in order to maintain that particular speed with the same pedal input whereas preve you had to push in further more to get more out of the engine and maintain at that particular speed.

It is sometimes difficult to describe the experience in words unless one has driven other cars and compared the differences. The delay or lag in acceleration when accelerating from standstill may be minimal or not so much of an issue. It is the combination of this lag and the "heavy dragging feel". No doubt the car is accelerating well, but you feel some force is pulling the car back when the car is accelerating, which gives this "dragging feel". Perhaps it is the characteristics of the CVT gearbox in the Preve Turbo. The Nissan Sylphy's CVT does not behave the same way as the Preve Turbo although there is a lag in acceleration during standstill ie. accelerating from 0km/h. Although there is an approximately 0.5 seconds lag when you step on the pedal (before the car gets moving), you don't experience the dragging feel as in the Preve Turbo. The car just glides forward and it feels light.

I not sure if the newer torque converter Jazz/City would feel as I did not test drive it but what i can saw is the overall feel on cvt is preve is better than my city for sure  thumbup.gif Maybe one have to get use to the different cvt feel  nod.gif 

No experience with the Suprima S though I have read it drives better than the Preve due to upgraded electronics and stuff.

Personally I think the biggest weakness of the Preve Turbo is in the transmission. If Proton can improve on this aspect it will be a much nicer car to drive especially when it is stuck in traffic jams. Don't get me wrong. THe car drives well as it is if someone does not compare it with other cars. Only when you drive other cars you will feel the difference. But at a price of between 65k to 69k, one cannot complain too much as the car is already considered to be a good value and unbeatable at its price point.

How I deal when stuck is traffic jam is to put D and let the car creep by itself before i press the pedal. When on hilly part is just put handbrake and put D and wait for creep before drive it (think it like the hill start stop in driving test).

Value wise like you said it really a good deal apart you need to pay more for fill up but that is some marginal disadvantage to it. Pity many ppl scoff it off because of the Proton Badge infront (eg my mom doh.gif ). I just wish they release the manual CFE version asap since i tend to keep car for many many years less thing to worry about breaking down eg cvt gearbox. And for the same price i rather get this than Iriz premium manual even though i do no need such big car at this stage flex.gif
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