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 Proton Prevé V22, Venturing into 3rd anniversary!

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SportyHandling
post Jun 17 2015, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jun 17 2015, 08:04 AM)
Mine, bought in May 2015 also no free 3 years maintenance. Is this the norm for those who bought their PREVE recently?  Any brothers here can comment?

Anyway, I just changed my HU to SANSUI SA-2650T.  The BLAUPUNKT HU has reverse camera Video IN, but the accessory shop doesn't have the socket.  It's not using the normal RCA type.  They told me that it'll take some time for the socket to be made available since this BLAUPUNKT HU is still new in the market.  I also find that the BLAUPUNKT HU is unable to read the full 32GB MicroSD as almost half of my "mp3" songs won't be listed.  I don't know why?  So for the above 2 reasons, I decided to change to the SANSUI SA-2650T.  Also added the PIONEER TS-D1703C component speakers and the sound improvement is indeed tremendous from those lousy stock 20W BLAUPUNKT speakers.
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Indeed the stock sound system of the Preve is terrible, the worst I've experienced so far with a flat sound and tinny bass. The obsolete Proton Waja's sound system is better than the Preve.
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post Jun 18 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jun 18 2015, 08:50 AM)
GuyS
I had this kind of problem lately
Whenever i wanna start my Preve
Its take time to start like 10-20s and almost stall too(usually 1-5s only)
And i always get Low battery after starting on SID

Even normal start up also got Low battery on SID

Should i worry??
My preve just 6 months only
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Btw i follow the stardard start procedure
1- insert fob
2- press start/stop one and 2nd till all accessory light shown up
3- depress brake
4-push the start/stop again

-Preve Turbo-
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Sounds quite serious. Maybe you should visit the service centre soon to have it fixed. The battery on my car is almost 3 years old (2 years 10 months) but may kaput anytime now. Still, it doesn't take 10 to 20 seconds to start the car. Just a slightly weak sound when the engine is starting but it's usually 1-2 seconds when you push the start button before the engine is running.

The only problem on my car which is also the Preve Turbo is when slowing down the car after high speed cruising, there will be a loud "woo woo" sound from the engine. It comes up occasionally and not everytime, but when the sound comes up you would know that something is wrong somewhere. Will bring this up during the upcoming service appointment.
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post Jun 19 2015, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(bobby25 @ Jun 19 2015, 11:09 AM)
Hi Guys

Just got my preve yesterday,
Problems

1. Rattling sound (sounds like mounting problem)
2.Blaupunkt HU micro sim slot does not detect the micro sin card (navigation does not work)
3 LH speaker sounds more louder than the rest

Really hope proton can solve all these issues...
Furthermore its a May 2015 model
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 19 2015, 12:17 PM)
my car may too.

got plastic sound driver and front passenger door. really speechless.

and also the driver seat noises. prob is for the driver seat noises is like biskut, sekejap ada, sekejap tiada
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Sounds like the newer Preve may have more quality issues now compared to the older 2012/2013 Preve models? I have only rattling sound from the back seat of the car in which after few attempts of pulling down the seat and pushing it back again, the sound was gone. If it comes back again, I just repeat the same exercise. The sound at the back seat may be just a case of the seat not locked securely and the rattling sound comes up due to knocks and vibration when the car is in motion.

As for the rattling sound from front passenger door, if the source can be detected usually it can be resolved. Maybe some wires or other stuff hitting against the metal door panel. Just require a small adjustment.

Left side speaker louder than right side or other speakers or HU micro sim slot cannot detect sim card, this is more to electronic problem. Maybe the thing is faulty. Just claim under warranty and have the old HU replaced to a new unit.
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(K2002 @ Jun 23 2015, 05:58 PM)
I going to COSE this Thursday.

Seems like my CVT gear have some issue now.

is been "fun" and been quiet sometime. Speed is good.
Suddenly last three weeks ago. experience of the gear slip motion.

As if even if I floor down the car hard to propel forward. With lots of vibration as if the CVT slip motion.

I have a lot of car going to die off or die off completely if I park my car downhill want to reverse have problem.

Don't push too much on the CVT gear. too much pushing. too much 5.5k rpm will cause your cvt gear have problem.

mine is  Apr 2012 unit. the first batch of 1070 units.

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This picture shows a gear icon as fault light. Note that I park my car and I have already switch to P but after a while it turns to N. without even I switch the lever to N.

and the video down below shows that I try to switch between the gear eventually the icon gone.



until now the icon gone. but still have problem when want to reverse from a downhill. or when idling press accelerator a bit the car as if want to die off. and when press maximum the accelerator especially reaching 4k~5k rpm it slips and the car no longer propel as if it was in N.
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Seems like the petrol in the tank of your car is going dry? Maybe that was the reason of the problem?
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(metaled @ Jun 20 2015, 03:01 PM)
I claim a set of new mounting a year and a half ago, come 1-2 weeks later for my 80k service, i am going to claim my 2nd set.

The whole car is vibrating right now, can feel on floor, seat, door cut, nearly everything. Amplifying the rattling of the car, it really feels like a 7 years old car.

the warranty of mounting for my car will expire on September (mounting they only cover for 3 years), die die must claim dapat.

Last week just receive claimed fan and wire harness.
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A bit curious on the claimed vibration of the car. Maybe your car has hit a very high mileage at almost 80,000km now, and that may explain that the engine mountings are worn and need replacement.

The mileage on my car is now at around 32,000km and there is no vibration issue. Only the (loud) droning sound from the CVT during acceleration that I experience with the car but I have learnt to live with that.
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post Jun 24 2015, 01:55 PM

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QUOTE(metaled @ Jun 24 2015, 12:30 PM)
Yup, but so to speak as an average, the mounting of Preve has a very short service life, well at least base on the previous experience of my other car.
For my car, 1st set from factory was replaced on 30k KM, 2nd claim set at 60K,

now i am going to my 3rd set.

One set per year is too fast irregardless of the milage.

My gearbox is replaced at 12k KM. Front seat, fan, wire harness, gearknob, handbrake lever. Good thing about Proton is all claim is valid even though there is minor mod on my car.

Come 5 years when the warranty had expired, i am done with Proton.

Preve is an excellent concept and idea, but very poor in execution.
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So the mounting shelf life is approximately 30,000km. That is quite bad. Will monitor the situation when something peculiar pops up.

Your gearbox is replaced at 12,000km? What happened? The most serious thing that happened on my car is the plastic piece on the gear knob fell off. Touch wood nothing serious yet. I am quite worried about the reliability of the CVT as I often do hard acceleration on the car as I mostly drive alone to work. So far it is only the loud noise and most recently, a VERY LOUD "woo woo" sound occasionally when the car's speed slowed down considerably after a high speed cruising session. Somehow these are early signs that the car may not be too reliable. I have yet to get the car to the service centre for checking as it is only the unpleasant sound which only comes up occasionally.

I am actually thinking on the next replacement car for this Preve Turbo as I don't intend to keep it long either. Similarly after it touches 5 years old. It may be a good car at its price point of 65k-70k but the quality and reliability I am having doubts.

Still, the Japanese is most reliable despite their "overpriced" value and lower performance not only when compared to Proton but also the costlier continental cars.
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post Jun 24 2015, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(hbgoh57 @ Jun 24 2015, 01:42 PM)
Mine kaput around 40k as well..you will noticed when it happens..especially when the car is stationary after a cold start in the morning
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Okay thanks. Will monitor the situation. Car is stationary after a cold start. Ok I'll take note.
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post Jun 25 2015, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Jun 25 2015, 11:30 AM)
Do not agree with you on that bro~~

Mine is 34K KM now and i have warrantied the engine mounting (with the latest design) and it makes a REALLY REALLY huge difference~~

No vibration when engine start....no annoying sound when accelerating (between 1.5k RPM to 2.5 RPM)~~

No shaking steering while stopping and just much more comfortable with the car feeling more solid~~

I suggest our friend here (including you) go complain and replace the faulty parts~~(if not faulty why they come out with the new design?)
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No problem with disagreement. If I don't experience vibration in the car, there is no reason to complain, or to demand for a change in engine mounting. Only when I detect a problem then I'll bring it up at the service centre. But I will take note on your comment and bring up on vibration.

I only have issues with the CVT during acceleration as it is currently unrefined and loud. Not too sure it is vibration-related. Will certainly put in a lot of complaint during my next service which is due in 1-2 months time.

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post Jun 26 2015, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Jun 25 2015, 01:42 PM)
Well then let me share a little bit more on this~~

originally i went in to complain on the annoying dashboard sound when accelerating from 1.5k RPM to 2.5K RPM~~i thought it was the dashboard assembly problem or the suspension problem....they (PJ SS13 SC) come back to tell me that it is neither the assemble nor the suspension problem but instead the engine mounting problem~~especially the one that locks the gear box~~i was made to understand that there is a improved version that will resolve the problem (BTW mine is a 2013 Dec car with VT3+, 6 airbag and EVP)~~so of coz i asked for a replacement!!

So after changing the a whole set of mounting.... i can really feel is the difference....and i even doubted if i have started the engine~~~

So i concluded that I have been driving with SOOOOooo much vibration previously and true enough the annoying dashboard sound is totally gone (at least for now)~~

By the way....i did not notice any CVT sound except when going above 100KM/H~~how does it sound by the way~~it sounds like a "woo-ing sound" to me~~
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Thanks for the info.
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post Jun 26 2015, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Jun 25 2015, 10:09 PM)
Well my personal experience is that....they are really willing to warranty parts for you once they confirmed the problem~~

honestly i salute to the PJ Seksyen 13 service center....the first set they changed got problem as well~~~i believe is old model although new mounting~~~they confess the problem is still there and ask me to go back again next week and CHANGE A SECOND SET AGAIN ~~they rather to solve your problem then u go there and complain them~~

Additionally, they also change the whole set  LEATHER WRAPPED STEERING WHEEL for me when i complained one of the button is malfunction~~ i expect them to change the button only~~but no...they change THE WHOLE SET (including the cruise control and signal and wiper control)~~~!! I do think it is a wastage but.....i believe the system come as a whole and they might worry i complain other buttons malfunction again...so they have no choice >.<
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Looks like you are getting free flow of wine with Proton, in this case free flow of spare parts from the PJ service centre. Good to know.
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post Jul 3 2015, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jul 3 2015, 06:44 AM)
If it cranks hard, turn off the engine and take out the key fob.

Then reinsert back, press start button once, press once again, hold brake, press and hold the start button.
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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jul 3 2015, 07:04 AM)
The engine will still fire eventually, except that the cranking takes much longer (2 seconds or more) than usual to be "cut-off".  I believe the engine has already started, just that the power to the starter motor is still not "cut-off".  This problem was commonly highlighted on the pioneer (2012) batch of the PREVEs.  I thought PROTON should have resolved it by now.  Otherwise, in the long run, I'm afraid it'll damage the starter motor prematurely.

I've applied the normal method to start:  insert fob, press START/STOP once to activate ACC, press START/STOP another time to activate ignition and listens for the fuel pump activation to complete, step on footbrake and see green light on START/STOP button, finally press START/STOP again to crank the engine.

The next time, I'll press and hold the START/STOP button during cranking and see the outcome.
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You guys need to press the START/STOP button of the car 3 times to start the car? I thought it is only 2 times? Sometimes when I"m in a rush I only pressed the button only once and the car will start.
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post Jul 3 2015, 08:14 AM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jul 3 2015, 08:12 AM)
Actually, stepping on the brake and pressing the START/STOP button once will also start the engine.  Whether it's a good practice or not, I don't know.  But I practiced the method like using the conventional key:  insert key, turn to ACC, turn to Ignition, wait for fuel pump to stop, turn and start cranking.
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Okay noted. I would advise that you send your car to the service centre for checking since your car is only 2 months old and there is a slight delay in starting the car. My car is almost 3 years old now little issues with starting the car. Started the car by pressing the button 2 times 90% of the time, pressing the button 1 time 10% of the time.
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ Jul 3 2015, 08:11 AM)
Press 3 times:
First time: Turn on accessory source.
Second time: Turn on ignition source.
Third time (with brake): Turn on cranking source.
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Okay thanks. Didn't realise this is the "proper" method of starting the car.
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post Jul 3 2015, 08:20 AM

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By the way, talking about battery life, my car will be 3 years old by next month, and I am still on the original battery. How long does the stock battery in the Preve Turbo usually last?
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post Jul 7 2015, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jul 7 2015, 06:38 PM)
Is it normal for the gearbox to go kaput?

My car was sent to SC cause i feel the gear was slipping, then they told me gearbox need replacement

Only about 1 year old doh.gif
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Can you describe what are the symptoms of "gear slipping". Do you often drive your car hard?

FWIW almost 3 years of ownership with the car I believe this Preve Turbo's CVT is not very suitable to be driven hard. Occasionally yes, but not frequently. Not too sure about others but in my experience the CVT will show some anomalies and act weird if it is subject to frequent hard acceleration. Some signs are the CVT showing louder sound even when you drive slow, weird whining/louder sound and a slightly jerky drive.

I still drive the car with frequent burst of acceleration everyday, but not as hard as before. I'm worried about the reliability of the CVT which doesn't seem too robust from the way it is acting now.

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post Jul 8 2015, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jul 7 2015, 10:23 PM)
Not really.  Only 20k in mileage as it's the car for my parents
There is a loud whining at low rev
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The loud whining at low rev. Maybe it is the same symptom I am experiencing, but in my case it comes up very rarely. Is the loud sound ABNORMALLY LOUD as in an extraneous sound, or it is just louder than usual.
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post Jul 8 2015, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jul 7 2015, 10:23 PM)
Not really.  Only 20k in mileage as it's the car for my parents
There is a loud whining at low rev
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And also, how often does the loud some comes up? Does it happen every time when your parents step on the pedal, or it happens on and off, occasionally?
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post Jul 9 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(sp3d2 @ Jul 9 2015, 11:12 AM)
you r right bro. same with me after 3 years and 60K km, the sound from gearbox getting louder compare to initially. I have my confidence in preve will last long but due to abnormal increasing sound from cvt, im getting nervous on how long it can last since warranty already void after 3 years.

preve is a good car, but the cvt is just.....  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Yes, the sound from the CVT is getting louder by the months, even if you drive it slow and gently. Not too sure if driving patterns will contribute to this anomaly as I usually do hard acceleration with the car everyday. I am not sure if those who drive their cars gently without doing any hard acceleration will experience the same phenomenon with the louder CVT. So far few owners reported zero problems with their Preve Turbo.

Having said that, I have occasionally done some quick darts with my previous car of 5 years, the Nissan Sylphy (acceleration in sports mode with RPMs climbing high) and the transmission of the Sylphy also a CVT performs flawlessly and stays quiet throughout the ownership period. Somehow the CVT of the Preve Turbo is lower quality than that of the Nissan in showing signs of reduced robustness and reliability with the erratic/abnormal loud sound.

Apart from the louder sound of the CVT (during normal drive), the acceleration is also not as smooth and slightly jerky in heavy traffic.

As for the warranty period, I was informed that the warranty is 5 years instead of 3 years the last time i inquired earlier this year. I was surprised as Proton might have changed the regulations. When I bought my car I was told that the warranty is 3 years. Only lately they advised that the warranty is 5 years.
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post Jul 13 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Jul 13 2015, 08:50 AM)
2 years 2 months now, car started to having problem during engine start.
before this, 'engine overflow' due to air filter already koyak.
now, sometimes smooth start, sometimes need to try 3-4 times.

is it because of battery about to kong?
or spark plugs need change? already 1 year not change.

i think all these problems are due to not following every 3 month schedule service,
i sent for service every 5k km which takes about 3-5 month.
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Does Proton specify 3 months for the 5,000km service? FWIW it is usually 6 months for either 5,000km or 10,000km service whichever comes first.

You can have your car checked at the service centre when your car is due for the next service. My car is 2 years 11 months old and no issues with starting the car. The scheduled maintenance for my car is 10,000km, usually 6-7 months interval.
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post Jul 30 2015, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(winners8 @ Jul 30 2015, 08:03 AM)
There's always a hissing sound from the engine bay, near the air-con compressor and radiator area whenever I switch OFF the engine after a drive with the air-con switched ON.  It will last for a few minutes and sounds like an air leak.  It only happens when the air-con is used during the drive.  If I drive without using the air-con, there is no hissing sound.

I had tried to check for air-con gas leakage but there is no trace of compressor oil stains on the pipes, hoses, couplings and joints of the air-con system.  Also, the air-con is still as cold as usual.

Can any PREVE CFE drivers here comment or have similar experiences?
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No such observation on my Preve Turbo.

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