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post Dec 17 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(navinnaido36 @ Dec 16 2014, 07:15 PM)
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I empathize with your situation. This is honestly shocking news, I've never thought that the person's character you're accusing is that appaling. I'm stumped for words. I have known the person you're accusing of for a while, and I have never thought this ugly side of him is even possible, much less this shockingly bad.

That's my rig you quoted there, I can understand the vision and ambition you'd like to see how your rig would like to turn out to be. I have no affiliation with APES whatsoever, other than I believe in them, and I believe in their skills, commitment, integrity and honesty of them when handling customer's builds that are entrusted to them. I hold them to high standards, and the end result is my rig, The EndGame. I can vouch for them, and I put my own reputation on the line when I say, without a doubt, that the REAL APES staff are trustworthy and commited towards realizing your dream rig.

My advise is this, if you're really serious about achieving your dream rig, I'd say go back to APES and do a makeover. This time, with the actual APES staff. I found it very disgusting that he did this behind the backs of APES, and when things go horribly, the blame is plastered on APES, when he did this as his own side-build without APES'' knowledge.

My frank and honest advise to you. Do a makeover, bring it back to APES or other reputable custom builders. This has nothing to do with APES, and more a fault of the person who used to work with APES and use that situation to take advantage of the customer (you) for his own greed, and when he cant deliver, he drops the mess on you.

Your specs and rig has serious promise, do it justice, make it right. I only have The Furnace as my secondary AMD rig, and even that is nothing compared to your Quad-CFX 290X.
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post Dec 17 2014, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 17 2014, 06:04 AM)
I empathize with your situation. This is honestly shocking news, I've never thought that the person's character you're accusing is that appaling. I'm stumped for words. I have known the person you're accusing of for a while, and I have never thought this ugly side of him is even possible, much less this shockingly bad.

That's my rig you quoted there, I can understand the vision and ambition you'd like to see how your rig would like to turn out to be. I have no affiliation with APES whatsoever, other than I believe in them, and I believe in their skills, commitment, integrity and honesty of them when handling customer's builds that are entrusted to them. I hold them to high standards, and the end result is my rig, The EndGame. I can vouch for them, and I put my own reputation on the line when I say, without a doubt, that the REAL APES staff are trustworthy and commited towards realizing your dream rig.

My advise is this, if you're really serious about achieving your dream rig, I'd say go back to APES and do a makeover. This time, with the actual APES staff. I found it very disgusting that he did this behind the backs of APES, and when things go horribly, the blame is plastered on APES, when he did this as his own side-build without APES'' knowledge.

My frank and honest advise to you. Do a makeover, bring it back to APES or other reputable custom builders. This has nothing to do with APES, and more a fault of the person who used to work with APES and use that situation to take advantage of the customer (you) for his own greed, and when he cant deliver, he drops the mess on you.

Your specs and rig has serious promise, do it justice, make it right. I only have The Furnace as my secondary AMD rig, and even that is nothing compared to your Quad-CFX 290X.
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Tk for the comment i do trust apes but if u read my updated post u will know that i dont have funds like last time. Thats why im so upset that if all this could be done earlier i dont care about people coned me and i can just move on but just looking at my parents working so hard realized i just have to keep my dream aside for a while. Cause right now, i dont know how much a complete makeover cost me and im not sure i can afford it. Even now my biggest concern is hoping my parents succeed in their new business.

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post Dec 17 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(navinnaido36 @ Dec 17 2014, 10:24 PM)
Tk for the comment i do trust apes but if u read my updated post u will know that i dont have funds like last time. Thats why im so upset that if all this could be done earlier i dont care about people coned me and i can just move on but just looking at my parents working so hard realized i just have to keep my dream aside for a while. Cause right now, i dont know how much a complete makeover cost me and im not sure i can afford it. Even now my biggest concern is hoping my parents succeed in their new business.
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You dont need a complete makeover, just cable management cleanup and it will look nice already. Was it in that condition when you received it, as per the first picture?
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post Dec 17 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 17 2014, 06:28 AM)
You dont need a complete makeover, just cable management cleanup and it will look nice already. Was it in that condition when you received it, as per the first picture?
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Not exactly as you can see the fan cables that is popping out from the case. I added fan controller cables which is provided by cooler master to control the fan speed as he promised that the he will install fan controller to control the speed of the fan but never add it in. My fans were just too noisy because default running at full speed i cant even sleep at night leaving it on. Other then that all its exactly the same as i received it from him...

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post Dec 17 2014, 10:40 PM

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There was some leakage from the reservoir from the top but i assume its because the tank too full and running the rig for too long expands the water so cause it to leak. Im not sure if this is normal cause it happens once in a while...Even he did not gave me the rig with proper cable management. I wanted to do raid 0 for my ssd and he put 2 of my cables in a non raid slot. i hard a freaking hard time taking it out and puting it back even in future i dont think i can add sata cables easily cause he mount the reservoir to close. I expected my 900d to have a lot of space but maybe the rig is too small for him funny...maybe i should make a petition to ask corsair to make a bigger cause since 900d is too small for my professional malaysian modder - u know who im referring too

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post Dec 17 2014, 10:46 PM

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From what I can tell here, you attempt trying to share your ill-experience seems to be successfully pulling in empathy.

Unfortunately, your situation could have been amicably resolved if proper, clear communication was used. e.g. meet up face-to-face to SOLVE the problem.

Instead, you shared it here... I wonder what are you really trying to achieve here.
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post Dec 17 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(nytron @ Dec 17 2014, 06:46 AM)
From what I can tell here, you attempt trying to share your ill-experience seems to be successfully pulling in empathy.

Unfortunately, your situation could have been amicably resolved if proper, clear communication was used. e.g. meet up face-to-face to SOLVE the problem.

Instead, you shared it here... I wonder what are you really trying to achieve here.
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I understand where are you going. If face to face could solve the problem i would have done it already. How am i suppose to meet the fellow who said to me working 7 days a week and not free even to send a fan controller and some sleeved extension. How am i suppose to trust the same face after 1 year my rig with him i got such results from him....Wt im tying to achieve here. Let me tell you straight i want to share wt i went through that was first. Looking at community support me and then the fellow texting me back saying finally he had reserved his time to send me my things and give back the labour money. Next people saying apes can help me and im glad even i got apes attention make me realize that this is the right track now. And finally sad for me when all the things happening so well im just dont have funds right now to do a good makeover just as stringfellow rig. His rig was my role model to be exact...
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:03 PM

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For your information u said wt i was trying to achieve first i taught this post was just to share my experience but then the fellow realized about this post and texted me why i posted this and say this tarnish his name. Why he feel that why, didnt he did a good job for my rig ?. Then i realized this post threaten him and i realized many people also got coned like me. U think im a person just texting and chatting i believed someone. I did meet him face to face at start. He had the face that i believed i can trust me but after the he was just telling me he was very busy and etc...Pls dont come here and ask me wt im trying to achieve. I can edit the post now and delete the last paragraph. I didnt come from a family i beg people sympathy and asking for help. I shared my story u dont like it just keep it to yourself...
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(nytron @ Dec 17 2014, 07:03 AM)
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You didnt went through wt i did. This upset felling u wont know it until its your turn.
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:20 PM

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I'm giving the person you've accused the benefit of the doubt. All we're hearing is your side of the story.

It could well be the fact that items are late arriving for your build due to late payment on your behalf, not items being out of stock.

It could well be that you wanted the rig to look like mine, but wanted it cheaper and faster without scaling back on quality. Some things are not cheap, if the looks is what you're after, you need to spend a little to get that look. You appeared not to be thrifty with your funding when it comes to hardware with your 4 x 290X though, but there are folks who go all out o hardware, but skimped on watercooling because funds were depleted on hardware purchases.

It could very well be that you approached APES for the parts, which you did, enquired about the cost of watercooling with the example of The Endgame, faltered at the cost, and approached the person you have accused for cheaper cost, and expect a build that looks like The Endgame. If that is the case, all I can say that, you have to realize that you get what you pay for. You cant cheat by having a cheaper watercooling build and expect it to look high-end unless you make it yourself. In which you didnt and you deferred it to third party. If this is the case, X amount of $ gets you The EndGame look, while anything less, you cannot expect it to match the looks.

From what I gather, I believe that the person you have accused did mention to you that it is HIS build and not APES. APES build are a team-effort, not of a singular individual. I foresaw my build myself, and only with team-effort that they can maintain that level of quality and speed of build. You cannot expect a single person to match that, much less with him alone sourcing out the parts and managing your build.

Let me ask you again, were you timely with your payments for the parts? If yes, then it's one reason off your back for the build to be delayed that long. Did you consider the fact that this is a one-man-show, not a team build, and that alone would've bloated the length of the build time to that period you mentioned? Also, did you stick to your design standards and not budging, or did the length of time and depleted funding made you accept a compromise level of quality for the watercooling build? You cant rush quality, and you cant rush good quality without funding to boot.

With all that, I retract my previous statement about the person you've accused, and give him the benefit of the doubt. I will leave my previous statement intact without edit to maintain transparency.
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 17 2014, 07:20 AM)
I'm giving the person you've accused the benefit of the doubt. All we're hearing is your side of the story.

It could well be the fact that items are late arriving for your build due to late payment on your behalf, not items being out of stock.

It could well be that you wanted the rig to look like mine, but wanted it cheaper and faster without scaling back on quality. Some things are not cheap, if the looks is what you're after, you need to spend a little to get that look. You appeared not to be thrifty with your funding when it comes to hardware with your 4 x 290X though, but there are folks who go all out o hardware, but skimped on watercooling because funds were depleted on hardware purchases.

It could very well be that you approached APES for the parts, which you did, enquired about the cost of watercooling with the example of The Endgame, faltered at the cost, and approached the person you have accused for cheaper cost, and expect a build that looks like The Endgame. If that is the case, all I can say that, you have to realize that you get what you pay for. You cant cheat by having a cheaper watercooling build and expect it to look high-end unless you make it yourself. In which you didnt and you deferred it to third party. If this is the case, X amount of $ gets you The EndGame look, while anything less, you cannot expect it to match the looks.

From what I gather, I believe that the person you have accused did mention to you that it is HIS build and not APES. APES build are a team-effort, not of a singular individual. I foresaw my build myself, and only with team-effort that they can maintain that level of quality and speed of build. You cannot expect a single person to match that, much less with him alone sourcing out the parts and managing your build.

Let me ask you again, were you timely with your payments for the parts? If yes, then it's one reason off your back for the build to be delayed that long. Did you consider the fact that this is a one-man-show, not a team build, and that alone would've bloated the length of the build time to that period you mentioned? Also, did you stick to your design standards and not budging, or did the length of time and depleted funding made you accept a compromise level of quality for the watercooling build? You cant rush quality, and you cant rush good quality without funding to boot.

With all that, I retract my previous statement about the person you've accused, and give him the benefit of the doubt. I will leave my previous statement intact without edit to maintain transparency.
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Let me make things clear one by one. This guy payment was not an issue. Everytime when i ask him the progress of my rig. He said its on going and along the way the ask funds. From example funds for extra reservoir, funds for fittings, funds for sleeving my psu cables. I without hesitation i bank in the money to his account within a week when he said he needed money. Slowly time passes when everytime i ask him the progress of my rig he said busy on his work but he is spendind time on my rig. I did clearly mention to him fund was not an issue. The main reason i didnt when through apes is because like i mention before cudo recommend this guy and i quote said he worked for apes. That gave me the confidence to pass my rig to him. If i was flatered by the apes cost like u said i do have the receipt that 80 percent of the watercooling parts were purchased from apes expect from the monsoon fittings and some other stuff. Let me make things clear here until recently this year around august my parents business went down. I was very busy with my college and finals during this time. My parents then asked me wt happen to the rig and why is long never arrived. I did update time to time myself with the guy. He did said he was still working on the rig and i havent got the parts. The finally i said wt the parts you were waiting for. He said fan controller and sleeved cable extension. Then i said if thats all why not send me the rig and sent the rest of the stuff once u received it. I did mention that i gave this guy my rig middle last year. And when i got my rig then i was suprised. I realized for the 1 year he kept saying working on my rig but nothing much he did on my rig. I was stupid that i was busy with my college and everytime i ask him wt the progress he made. He said he working or busy but he is still working on my rig....Just recently my budget got tight thats why i asked do the makeover will cost me alot...

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post Dec 17 2014, 11:43 PM

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I understand you guys fell im accusing this person. But if i was money minded in first place why who i go for such an expensive build. Why a 900d if im only going to do some normal watercooling build. Why need such a big case. AM i making sense....
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:47 PM

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Why go for corsair 1500 psu if other psu with 1500 watt can power my rig. Why waited so long to get the psu from corsair as you all know corsair expecially my psu ax1500i is not cheap if there is other alternative such as silverstone and stuff. Im a person who goes for quality not about saving money. I dare you ask the person if u know him that did i say to him before that "money is not an issue". Which idiot will pay rm 500 in advance even only that say he only coming to pick up the rig from my house. I trusted him and i deserved this.....

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I'm intrigued by the roundabout way you posted about the "recommendation" for watercooling entity. If you have purchased your parts via APES, why not just ask them to do the watercooling build for you instead of having to go through CUDO and them recommending the accused. From what I gather, APES never got wind of this build, nor realized its existence. You went to the accused who happened to work with APES and ASSUME that it will have APES build quality without the involvement of the entire APES team?

Were you told by the accused that this is HIS build, not APES build, and therefore is a one-man-show, one-man-build? Which will take time to source out the parts and efforts to do by a single person alone.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 17 2014, 07:47 AM)
I'm intrigued by the roundabout way you posted about the "recommendation" for watercooling entity. If you have purchased your parts via APES, why not just ask them to do the watercooling build for you instead of having to go through CUDO and them recommending the accused. From what I gather, APES never got wind of this build, nor realized its existence. You went to the accused who happened to work with APES and ASSUME that it will have APES build quality without the involvement of the entire APES team?

Were you told by the accused that this is HIS build, not APES build, and therefore is a one-man-show, one-man-build? Which will take time to source out the parts and efforts to do by a single person alone.
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I understand wt you are saying. But unlike today at that time i know about apes but i didnt know much about them. So i had a question of trust because i dont recognize people at apes. But since i did bought many stuff from cudo. The distributor which is a girl which i always talk to her. We are like friends. So she the wan recommend me this guy in apes can do good job. I did ask her why not send to apes. Then she say i quote now "people in apes not pro wan most of the time is this guy idea". Now u tell me wt a noobie like me will do...she even say the wt the vector stuff was his idea.

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QUOTE(navinnaido36 @ Dec 16 2014, 07:15 PM)
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I find it hard to believe the above. (ugly photo from 1st post)

I'm not close to that person BUT I do know that he's capable of setting up computers and I'm most certainly sure he will not delivery such an ugly setup to you.

Heck I think people like him would very likely do better cable management than myself and I for sure will do much better cable management than what's in that picture.

Below is one of his builds, so yeah I don't think he'll hand you a unit with such horrible cable management.

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My point here is this: APES team took 5 months to build my The Endgame, from sourcing parts, brainstorming designs and coolant flow efficiency, building the rig and overclocking/tuning them to my specifications.

You asked 1 person who worked with APES, who took your build as his own build, doing it by himself, and expect parts sourcing, designing and building and tuning it to be done .......in the same period of time it took for a team of custom builders doing it as a collective effort?

My other question is, did you falter? Did you compromise? Did you stick to your guns? Were you adamant in not changing your designs ("inspired by my Endgame") to look like The Endgame? Because it looks like you did compromised and chose tubing instead of acrylics in that picture. Time and impatience can turn folks into compromises that they soon regretted and in turn, causes them to come to the forum and air out their own regrets under the disguise of defaming others.
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 17 2014, 07:47 AM)
I'm intrigued by the roundabout way you posted about the "recommendation" for watercooling entity. If you have purchased your parts via APES, why not just ask them to do the watercooling build for you instead of having to go through CUDO and them recommending the accused. From what I gather, APES never got wind of this build, nor realized its existence. You went to the accused who happened to work with APES and ASSUME that it will have APES build quality without the involvement of the entire APES team?

Were you told by the accused that this is HIS build, not APES build, and therefore is a one-man-show, one-man-build? Which will take time to source out the parts and efforts to do by a single person alone.
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I also understand that since i didnt go through apes team how am i going to get apes build quality. This guy said he can do it thats the problem..i not accusing apes for anything which i made it clear from the start. Im just wt people know got people like this say work in apes and obviously i expected apes build quality and quit apes do one man show and flopped my rig....people may think im simple accusing this guy but think again why do i have to do that and wt i gain from it. Let me tell you straight if im the person who is at fault here why not since u know him ask him come confront here....tell me wt i said ins not true. I mean if he know i did this post and he fell im tarnishing his name. Why until now he didn't come and fight for himself....
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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 17 2014, 07:56 AM)
My point here is this: APES team took 5 months to build my The Endgame, from sourcing parts, brainstorming designs and coolant flow efficiency, building the rig and overclocking/tuning them to my specifications.

You asked 1 person who worked with APES, who took your build as his own build, doing it by himself, and expect parts sourcing, designing and building and tuning it to be done .......in the same period of time it took for a team of custom builders doing it as a collective effort?

My other question is, did you falter? Did you compromise? Did you stick to your guns? Were you adamant in not changing your designs ("inspired by my Endgame") to look like The Endgame? Because it looks like you did compromised and chose tubing instead of acrylics in that picture. Time and impatience can turn folks into compromises that they soon regretted and in turn, causes them to come to the forum and air out their own regrets under the disguise of defaming others.
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Good question sticking to my guns. He said he didnt have the tools to do aryclic bending and stuff. So he said to use tubing to complete my rig. But i did requested to get a similiar finish as your rig in terms of the rotatory fittings, 90 degree and 45 degree fittingd and stuff. He said he will use extender fittings to make my rig get the same finish quality. Then suddenly i get the finish quality as shown in the pic at my post...No tuning is done, agreement good high quality watercooled rig. I didnt take pic of bottom of my pc. He didnt even mount the pumps properly. If i did expected this kind of outcome why am i complaining..He gave me so many ideas 2 pump means 2 colour lah maybe not exactly the same finish as your rig prefectly but now even close to any awesome rigs out there...thats why im mad and upset
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