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stringfellow
post Dec 17 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(navinnaido36 @ Dec 16 2014, 07:15 PM)
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I empathize with your situation. This is honestly shocking news, I've never thought that the person's character you're accusing is that appaling. I'm stumped for words. I have known the person you're accusing of for a while, and I have never thought this ugly side of him is even possible, much less this shockingly bad.

That's my rig you quoted there, I can understand the vision and ambition you'd like to see how your rig would like to turn out to be. I have no affiliation with APES whatsoever, other than I believe in them, and I believe in their skills, commitment, integrity and honesty of them when handling customer's builds that are entrusted to them. I hold them to high standards, and the end result is my rig, The EndGame. I can vouch for them, and I put my own reputation on the line when I say, without a doubt, that the REAL APES staff are trustworthy and commited towards realizing your dream rig.

My advise is this, if you're really serious about achieving your dream rig, I'd say go back to APES and do a makeover. This time, with the actual APES staff. I found it very disgusting that he did this behind the backs of APES, and when things go horribly, the blame is plastered on APES, when he did this as his own side-build without APES'' knowledge.

My frank and honest advise to you. Do a makeover, bring it back to APES or other reputable custom builders. This has nothing to do with APES, and more a fault of the person who used to work with APES and use that situation to take advantage of the customer (you) for his own greed, and when he cant deliver, he drops the mess on you.

Your specs and rig has serious promise, do it justice, make it right. I only have The Furnace as my secondary AMD rig, and even that is nothing compared to your Quad-CFX 290X.
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post Dec 17 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(navinnaido36 @ Dec 17 2014, 10:24 PM)
Tk for the comment i do trust apes but if u read my updated post u will know that i dont have funds like last time. Thats why im so upset that if all this could be done earlier i dont care about people coned me and i can just move on but just looking at my parents working so hard realized i just have to keep my dream aside for a while. Cause right now, i dont know how much a complete makeover cost me and im not sure i can afford it. Even now my biggest concern is hoping my parents succeed in their new business.
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You dont need a complete makeover, just cable management cleanup and it will look nice already. Was it in that condition when you received it, as per the first picture?
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:20 PM

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I'm giving the person you've accused the benefit of the doubt. All we're hearing is your side of the story.

It could well be the fact that items are late arriving for your build due to late payment on your behalf, not items being out of stock.

It could well be that you wanted the rig to look like mine, but wanted it cheaper and faster without scaling back on quality. Some things are not cheap, if the looks is what you're after, you need to spend a little to get that look. You appeared not to be thrifty with your funding when it comes to hardware with your 4 x 290X though, but there are folks who go all out o hardware, but skimped on watercooling because funds were depleted on hardware purchases.

It could very well be that you approached APES for the parts, which you did, enquired about the cost of watercooling with the example of The Endgame, faltered at the cost, and approached the person you have accused for cheaper cost, and expect a build that looks like The Endgame. If that is the case, all I can say that, you have to realize that you get what you pay for. You cant cheat by having a cheaper watercooling build and expect it to look high-end unless you make it yourself. In which you didnt and you deferred it to third party. If this is the case, X amount of $ gets you The EndGame look, while anything less, you cannot expect it to match the looks.

From what I gather, I believe that the person you have accused did mention to you that it is HIS build and not APES. APES build are a team-effort, not of a singular individual. I foresaw my build myself, and only with team-effort that they can maintain that level of quality and speed of build. You cannot expect a single person to match that, much less with him alone sourcing out the parts and managing your build.

Let me ask you again, were you timely with your payments for the parts? If yes, then it's one reason off your back for the build to be delayed that long. Did you consider the fact that this is a one-man-show, not a team build, and that alone would've bloated the length of the build time to that period you mentioned? Also, did you stick to your design standards and not budging, or did the length of time and depleted funding made you accept a compromise level of quality for the watercooling build? You cant rush quality, and you cant rush good quality without funding to boot.

With all that, I retract my previous statement about the person you've accused, and give him the benefit of the doubt. I will leave my previous statement intact without edit to maintain transparency.
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:47 PM

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I'm intrigued by the roundabout way you posted about the "recommendation" for watercooling entity. If you have purchased your parts via APES, why not just ask them to do the watercooling build for you instead of having to go through CUDO and them recommending the accused. From what I gather, APES never got wind of this build, nor realized its existence. You went to the accused who happened to work with APES and ASSUME that it will have APES build quality without the involvement of the entire APES team?

Were you told by the accused that this is HIS build, not APES build, and therefore is a one-man-show, one-man-build? Which will take time to source out the parts and efforts to do by a single person alone.
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:56 PM

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My point here is this: APES team took 5 months to build my The Endgame, from sourcing parts, brainstorming designs and coolant flow efficiency, building the rig and overclocking/tuning them to my specifications.

You asked 1 person who worked with APES, who took your build as his own build, doing it by himself, and expect parts sourcing, designing and building and tuning it to be done .......in the same period of time it took for a team of custom builders doing it as a collective effort?

My other question is, did you falter? Did you compromise? Did you stick to your guns? Were you adamant in not changing your designs ("inspired by my Endgame") to look like The Endgame? Because it looks like you did compromised and chose tubing instead of acrylics in that picture. Time and impatience can turn folks into compromises that they soon regretted and in turn, causes them to come to the forum and air out their own regrets under the disguise of defaming others.
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:35 PM

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Good that you've moved on, TS. No point dwelling in the past, move forward and fulfill your rig's potential. It will take a while to complete if you strive for quality build, and it will cost a pretty penny if you're looking for a particular look. Bear that in mind.

As for the suara2 sumbang that thinks I'm fighting the accuser's battles on behalf of him, get off your high horse. "Benefit of the doubt" means opening yourself possibilities that not everything is what it seems. That includes giving both parties a fair chance.
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