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sss123
post Jul 1 2015, 06:39 PM

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hi would like to ask, for a loan amt of 560k, if bank interest rate differ by 0.15%, would it make a lot of difference in terms of interest paid? Thanks for answering..
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post Jul 6 2015, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(snoppykid @ Jul 6 2015, 04:50 PM)
Hi All sifu's, I'm get 2 offer. haven't decided will go which bank, need some advise

Public Bank 3.65 (BR) + 0.70 (profit) = 4.35

Cimb Bank 4.0 (BR) + 0.40 (profit) = 4.4

which is that a good deal?
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May I know how did u manage to get 4.35 and 4.4 from those banks? as I heard a lot of bank offering lowest 4.45% now. May I know what type of home loan u applied to? full flexi semi flexi? islamic? any lock in period? did they come with mrta etc?
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post Jul 6 2015, 10:39 PM

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would like to enquire, between maybank and cimb, which bank should I try apply for, for semi flexi, variable, no lock in, no mrta loan? anyone can advise abt the diff products they have? If i go for islamic, heard it will incur lots of legal fees, is tat rite?
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post Jul 6 2015, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 6 2015, 05:35 PM)
At face value CIMB bank would be better. But I believe CIMB forces its customer to take up flexi services? Please confirm with the. It costs RM5 to RM20 a month for flexi services, something you may or may not need.
It depends, recently AMBANK  changed their base Rate from 3.99% to 3.80%, with such a jump, you can't be sure if the loan package you are getting is the best as BR changes like crazy as far as I can tell.
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does it means the lower the profit, the safer?
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post Jul 7 2015, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 6 2015, 11:38 PM)
Hello,

I dont know about branch bankers, but mortgage brokers like some of us are not required to sell MRTA as the requirement waived because we are not part of the overhead by the bank - hence no need to cross sell.

Semi-flexi don't have any charges, only full-flexi facilities have charges. At this price you can look at rates of around 4.50 to 4.55%, depending on your credit score.

Most banks can include the loan legal fees into the loan package, all my banks can do it from MBB, HLBB, OCBC, AMBANK and Alliance. But are you sure the developers are not absorbing the legal fees? If they do, good for you, if they don't no worries, as I said.
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can i please check again, I have heard a few banks are going to change their br in mid july, if i get my loan approved before they change their br, does my loan follow the old br or new br? and if approved aft they change their br, it would definitely follow new br?
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post Jul 7 2015, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 7 2015, 08:15 PM)
It should be similar as long as the interest is calculated on the same schedule such as daily or monthly rest.

Keep note that there will be many charges that takes place such as fire insurance,  flexi fees if any, etc. that will kacau your repayment schedule. With daily rest even if you pay your installment earlier every month it would have an effect in your tenure.
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confused abt all these loan stuffs..

Maybank 3.2+ 1.25

affin 3.99+ 0.46

how come the br can vary soooooo much.... banks r going crazy... it doesnt sound healthy..

which are better? does ambank offer any other loan type other than the one which charge monthly fees?

btw, if im applying loan with non panel bank, would there be a lot more additional legal fees? if so roughly how much more?
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post Jul 7 2015, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(sss123 @ Jul 7 2015, 09:51 PM)
confused abt all these loan stuffs..

Maybank 3.2+ 1.25

affin 3.99+ 0.46

how come the br can vary soooooo much.... banks r going crazy... it doesnt sound healthy..

which are better? does ambank offer any other loan type other than the one which charge monthly fees?

btw, if im applying loan with non panel bank, would there be a lot more additional legal fees? if so roughly how much more?
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y they r not using blr now...damn frustrating with all the diff interest rate which cant be compared.
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post Jul 7 2015, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 7 2015, 10:07 PM)
I am on mobile but we need to summon this jason86 guy to answer your question. How do I summon a person eh?

Now, I wont say which one is better. I agree that it is crazy. Did you know that AMBANK changed their BR from 3.99 to 3.80% just this month? Thos who got their loans at BR + .46 signed it based on 4.45 weir, but now they are at freaking 4.26% Crazy kan? Hahahaha

If you apply from non panel banks, you can use your own lawyer for the LA, but the developer will not cover the fees, as well as mmany other discounts that they give. You need to find that out. May I know why you are not going with the panel banks?
No kidding!!! I have 5 banks in my panel and Ican't be bothered remembering the rates anymore now. I just remember the weir, and not the spread.

But ZSeti is smart. As someone in finance, Iput my faith in Zeti. She said it was to spur competition.
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panel affin, maybank, and cimb.

affin like not very reliable.. nv heard of anyone borrowing money fr them...and very few branches..
cimb, like others said, full flexi loan is not my cup of tea, if other type of normal or islamic loan, they r not flexi at all rite?
maybank, with the spread at 1.26 and very diff fr other bank, i do not understand them very well.. like u said b4, better to go for safer, lower spread..

hlb offer priority customers home loan with legal fees waived, my dad is their priority customer, if joint name with my dad, can enjoy this benefit. the SA of my project told me the legal fees will amount to 13k.. 13k is a lot...the thg is, ive bought laman view, hlb manager told my dad bcoz they r new developer, they need to check their status first and it will take up to 2 wks for them to get back to me if they accept my loan app....

im in a dilemma now, not knowing which bank to go to.. seems non is perfect or ideal...

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post Jul 9 2015, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jul 9 2015, 10:09 PM)
I have not followed up on the latest BR of the banks in town for quite some time. Anyone have complete up to date list?
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hlb 3.84
ambank 3.80
public 3.65
maybank 3.20
cimb 4.00
affin 3.99

can actually check fr website br.my



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post Jul 10 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jul 9 2015, 11:09 PM)
Alright thanks.
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damn it, applied to hlb before the br changed but they hold my app coz they need to run a check on the project developer. and it took so long till aft br changed. so now br changed, i nv get to benefit fr it as they actually adjust the spread and make the effective lending rate remain the same. so now spread higher and im paying interest higher than those who applied before br changed. Those who wanna apply for loan, better apply earlier before the nxt 2 banks change their br.
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post Jul 10 2015, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(sss123 @ Jul 10 2015, 12:20 PM)
damn it, applied to hlb before the br changed but they hold my app coz they need to run a check on the project developer. and it took so long till aft br changed. so now br changed, i nv get to benefit fr it as they actually adjust the spread and make the effective lending rate remain the same. so now spread higher and im paying interest higher than those who applied before br changed. Those who wanna apply for loan, better apply earlier before the nxt 2 banks change their br.
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any tips on which r the 2 banks which r gonna change their br?
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post Jul 10 2015, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jasoncat @ Jul 10 2015, 01:46 PM)
That's when there are questions raised which banks' offers are better though the effective lending rate are the same, I always say that it is generally indifferent to take either one.  BR could be different for different bank due to different methodologies in their calculation.  The banks can easily adjust their all-in rate by tuning the profit margin (one of the elements in the pricing spread) up or down.
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it seems br doesn't benefit either party. and its really a lot harder to compare btw banks now compared to using blr. can u imagine application before and aft br change giv a diff of 0.15% on interest for 30 yrs for a 600k house..

plus the promo with their preferred banking, which says all legal fees waived, is only for built houses.. im not getting any benefit fr them now, they r no diff fr any other bank now.. so gonna withdraw my app oredi..
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post Jul 15 2015, 07:19 PM

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public bank told me if apply home loan without mrta, interest rate lowest will b 4.60.. is it true? Worth to buy mrta with 3.5k for 5 yrs to get lower interest rate? she cant guarantee how much lower the rate for buying mrta..
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post Jul 21 2015, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(cdspins @ Jul 16 2015, 09:10 AM)
Just for your info, the cost of mrta will always be higher than the saving from the lower interest rate.
It is wort to buy MRTA, that really depends on your age, financial situation and your family needs. If you already have enough insurance, then there is no need, if you are the sole bread winner in the house and this is your first house... then you might consider or even extend the coverage to 2/3 of the loan tenure.
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Proven if just wanna get lower interest rate, mrta is not reslly necessary..i got approval with 4.35% without mrta..

But then can i just check, if we buy mrta for 5 yrs, it only cover for 5 yrs rite? Its not covered for whole loan tenure rite? Unless we buy for whole loan tenure?
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post Jul 21 2015, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(sss123 @ Jul 21 2015, 11:05 AM)
Proven if just wanna get lower interest rate, mrta is not reslly necessary..i got approval with 4.35% without mrta..

But then can i just check, if we buy mrta for 5 yrs, it only cover for 5 yrs rite? Its not covered for whole loan tenure rite? Unless we buy for whole loan tenure?
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Wats the diff btw mlta and mrta?
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post Jul 22 2015, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(wild_card_my @ Jul 22 2015, 03:52 PM)
0.1% difference only attributes to RM100 per year per RM100,000 outstanding. IN the first year, you would be paying RM351 extra to the bank in the form of interests, this figure goes down as your outstanding goes down.

Now with MRTA you would need to finance it into the loan, and it would be expensive if you are older. Your alternative would be:

1. No insurane

2. Short, 5 year  MRTA (basically no insurance)

3. MLTA

MLTA coverage is fixed; agents love to paddle the fact that MLTA has a cash back, true, but it will affect your cashflow since the monthly premiums are usually higher than the MRTA monthly repayment costs when included into the loan
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is there a way to work out mathematically whether paying extra for mrta in exchange for lower interest rate is beneficial? for my case, 3.5k for 5 yrs mrta and 0.15% reduction in interest rate for loan amount 530k.
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post Jul 26 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(lord @ Jul 25 2015, 10:19 PM)
4.45%, 90% loan margin.
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i think u can try a few other bank, there are lower interest rate ard. Last wed I went to apply for mbb, the agent told me rate 4.5, then i told her another agent told me possible 4.45, she said she would try to appeal for me. However, I actually got offered fr public bank with interest rate 4.35 without mrta. Guess you can apply to few more banks to compare the rate.
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post Jul 30 2015, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(Neo Light @ Jul 30 2015, 12:48 AM)
So far, enquire three banks for interest rate. The lowest is 4.45% Public Bank, with 30 years tenure, loan amount 680K.

Any of you guys got better offer than 4.45%? Which bank?  icon_question.gif
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Affinbank 4.4% wihout mrta, loan amt 530k..
Publicbank 4.35% without mrta

Both semi flexi.

Still waiting for ambank..submitted more than 2 wks ago, havent got approval yet...and yet the manager actually promised to giv me a reply within 1 wk...dun really trust them now..plus their counter service is really bad...the staffs r quite rude too..

Publicbank service is ok..at least efficient..i got reply fr them within 1wk over raya holiday..

Affinbank very troublesome...ask for lots of additional documents which other bank nv req for..And also take ages to process loan approval..

Rhb even worse, went there first time the loan ppl not in left my contact they nv contact me, second time go the person was so rude and not helpful..actually went to 2 diff branches and end up din get to apply coz the loan ppl not in...if they dun wanna giv out loan better just close their loan service..swore i will nv use their service anymore...gonna close my savings acc too..

Guess u should also take into consderation the bank servixe when choosing loan...if bank cause so much troubles its really a waste of time and money..and who knows wat will go wrong if some r so unproffessional..

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post Jul 30 2015, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(Neo Light @ Jul 30 2015, 12:48 AM)
So far, enquire three banks for interest rate. The lowest is 4.45% Public Bank, with 30 years tenure, loan amount 680K.

Any of you guys got better offer than 4.45%? Which bank?  icon_question.gif
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Btw, watever rate they offer u before application dun take it too seriously..as the final decision is not made by them..and can always appeal aft the approval till u get the rate u want...

My publicbank previously was 4.5%, affinbank4.45%, and before the appeal the agent kept convincing me to get mrta to get lower rate, in the end i still get lower rate without mrta..so dun giv in too easily..should fight till u r happy with the rate..
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post Jul 30 2015, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(henchman @ Jul 28 2015, 02:48 PM)
Looking at 2 loan options here:

1) Ambank (4.45%, 90%, 35years ) - Full Flexi: No withdrawal fee. Setup Fee RM 100. Monthly Charges RM10 (Waived if loan current account has RM 1000 access money).

2) Public Bank (4.40%, 90%, 35years ) - Semi Flexi - Withdrawal fee RM 50. No setup fee. Minimum withdrawal amount is RM 5000.

3) Public Bank (4.40%, 90%, 35years ) - Full Flexi - No withdrawal fee. Setup fee RM 200. Monthly Charges RM 10.
Only 50% of the access Money will be reduced from the loan amount.  shocking.gif
I like the Public Bank rate, but their full flexi is not that attractive. My idea is to channel both mine and my wife's salary to the current account every month to reduce the overall loan amount(since interest is calculated daily). We will eventually transfer our salary from the current account whenever we want to use it.

Do advice if my salary transferring idea using full flexi loan seems flawed. Also do advice if got any other bank which can offer more attractive packages.
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I have checked with ambank agent, she said not possible to ask for waiver for the monthly fees...there will always be a monthly fees..may i know how do u get the waiver huh?

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