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post Aug 16 2016, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(faiyahoo @ Aug 16 2016, 03:24 PM)
Hi, I would like to ask should take up the offer or wait.
Currently I have an offer from HxB 4.2 for 1st year then 4.4 for 2nd year on wards. I have apply for PxB too but still pending for approval. Should I take up the offer by HxB or just wait? I have 10 more working days for the deadline.  sweat.gif
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If i were you i would have signed it.

nice rate. after 3 years if there is a better rate or so then refinance. you would have cash out and purchase another property by then anyway. after all, its only a small difference in the short run. if you are looking at a long run then maybe u reconsider other options.
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post Aug 16 2016, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Aug 16 2016, 02:19 PM)
Like i mention, I have a case, they wanna ban me up to them, if they wanna proceed to legal I'm ready, sometimes its not a matter of the money, its a matter of principles. Just because you can afford it doesnt mean u should throw money around for no reason.

Anyway i think my "style" is not so relevant to the thread...
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bro, is that a "line tapping" issue? if that is the case, pressure celcom to remove your name.
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post Aug 16 2016, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 16 2016, 04:19 PM)
Hi sifus... just a query.
If I apply loan from few banks and all offered me with different rates, will there be any penalty if I didn't take their offer? I did read some rules saying need to pay RM2k penalty if didn't take the offer? Is it true?
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Even if you have signed it you still can cancel the Letter Offer. no penalty will be charged if Letter of Instruction is not issued to your appointed solicitor.

Once the Letter Instruction is issued, then you need to bear the cost (say 1% of the TOTAL loan amount)
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post Aug 16 2016, 05:23 PM

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No... if you read the line...

approved at 80% does not mean loan reject, it's actually loan APPROVED, but at a lower margin.

you can request the banker to recommend for reject then only you are able to get the rejection letter.

** let me guess... you have CLEAN CCRISS (langsung no commitment with banks) resulting only 80% loan approval?
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post Aug 16 2016, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 16 2016, 04:55 PM)
Thanks all. Really appreciate it.

Let say I tried 3 banks for 90% MOF, but all banks can offer me 80% only, does it mean i can get my 1% booking fee refunded? In the booking form only mentioned rloan ejected letter to eligible for refund. Do i need to include this clause in the booking form??
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 16 2016, 05:14 PM)
as long as got a clause to say that you can get refund if loan not 90%.
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No... if you read the line...

approved at 80% does not mean loan reject, it's actually loan APPROVED, but at a lower margin.

you can request the banker to recommend for reject then only you are able to get the rejection letter.

** let me guess... you have CLEAN CCRISS (langsung no commitment with banks) resulting only 80% loan approval?
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post Aug 21 2016, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(NyOx @ Aug 19 2016, 04:44 PM)
Hi,

ask for opinions for loan selection:

house price RM565K (S&P) cover by developer
legal fees, MOT not cover.

1) A (Islamic)
Loan amount 90% + MRTA
BR 4.3 (+1.3%)

2) B (conventional) Full Flexi
Loan Amount 90%+MRTA+legal fee
BR 4.4 (+0.5%)

3) C (conventional) Full Flexi
Loan Amount 90%+MLTA
BR 4.4 (+0.75%)

best on above. which one i should consider & prefer?

Thanks
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C. If you wish to have an exit option. It does not have to be as costly as a Mercedes, it can be as cheap as a Kancil as long as it suits your financial needs now and a not so distance future. Don't close your doors. personal opinion.

Some forummers like to provide misleading info. Like advising you to shut your exit options.

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post Aug 25 2016, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ Aug 24 2016, 09:34 PM)
Heard tht MBB just change its refinance policy to fix the effective rate at BR+1.7% effective 10 Aug. Any MBB officer/agents tht can work around this?
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Refinance cash out portion. Grapevine. Your news very fast.

Subsale or buying from developer would still get 4.3% onwards. This is what I heard
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post Aug 25 2016, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Aug 23 2016, 12:37 PM)
Use PMT
=ABS(PMT(C1/12,C2*12,C3,0))
Where
C1=interest rate in %
C2= tenure in years
C3=boreowing amount

Try it. Not 100% accurate but more or less 99.9% compared to other/web loan calculator
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Very good sharing.

This calculation is good for monthly rest.
Daily rest calculator is hard to find. I couldn't find one till now
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post Sep 2 2016, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 30 2016, 03:10 PM)
If there is excess payment then you will have to wait for the bank to reimburse it back to your estate as the bank is the policy owner of the mrta.

They will use it to pay all the bank outstanding fees and etc and then the balance only will be released to your estate. Subject to you writing a will. Otherwise it will subject to distribution act.

This will be different from mlta whereby you can nominate who to give the money to should you pass away.
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Correct explanation. But last point is only applicable for non Muslim. So NOT everyone can nominate a nominee

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post Sep 2 2016, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Aug 30 2016, 03:10 PM)
If there is excess payment then you will have to wait for the bank to reimburse it back to your estate as the bank is the policy owner of the mrta.

They will use it to pay all the bank outstanding fees and etc and then the balance only will be released to your estate. Subject to you writing a will. Otherwise it will subject to distribution act.

This will be different from mlta whereby you can nominate who to give the money to should you pass away.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 2 2016, 06:55 AM)
Yes you can.  Which is why insurance have takaful for Muslims  whereby you can create Hibah to the person of your choice.
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Abang. U wrote Mlta. Mlta is life assurance not takaful. No nomination for Muslim, afaik.

And for mltt (takaful), read this up (for your own good)

http://www.academia.edu/7625802/Effect_of_..._Family_Takaful

So practically, in Muslim cases, the nominee would act as trustee, executor or beneficiary on conditional hibah. This is very important as the "nominee" can only distribute the conditional hibah in accordance to shariah law. (Page75 in the link, 2nd last paragraph). So your explanation there might confuse fellow forummers(especially Muslims) as they would be able to distribute all the insurance/takaful proceeds according to their choice nominee

Hope this clear the clouds
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post Sep 2 2016, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 2 2016, 11:32 AM)
I know you're good in marketing skills and renaming products but it's still ends up with the same concept. Mltt term had just been used recently when all the while it's been mlta all the while. Same goes with mrta and mrtt. I would prefer to stick to the main traditional term rather than create multiple terms like LRTA and LRTT to confuse ppl even more.

Appreciate your contribution. Tq
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You're welcome. But the point here is not the term that I wish to highlight. It's concept of nomination. Bear in mind, nomination is NOT equal to beneficiary. So the insurance/takaful proceeds to Muslims is the part I wish to correct you. Otherwise, it would be till death your policy holder realizes that his/her loved ones would not be getting the proceeds according to his will (because it has to be shariah compliance and distributed that way)
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post Sep 4 2016, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(gastacopz @ Sep 3 2016, 05:27 PM)
If the developer got their own panel bank, can we opt for other bank?

In case the panel bank interest is higher..
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Yes. But it takes ages to get approval as the banker need to hand in extra documents and wait for end financing team review and of course most bankers are reluctant to put in extra efforts unless they are pretty sure you will sign with them

Just my 2 cents
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post Sep 4 2016, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(gastacopz @ Sep 3 2016, 11:51 PM)
thanks for all the input..

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first time buyer here...

btw, how to maximize benefit as 1st house buyer??
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SKim rumah Pertama ku, epf withdrawal 10% for first house (redemption)
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post Sep 5 2016, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(redbull30 @ Sep 4 2016, 11:16 PM)
Any option to still get above 70% MOF for 3rd property and above?
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Buy commercial property. It is not bound by the 70% MOF restriction
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post Sep 7 2016, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(ngph988 @ Sep 5 2016, 10:47 AM)
Good day Manx,

Here's your answer for your inqueries.

1. You can do so by opt any favorable insurance company. Make sure bring along your letter offer to let them understand your financial situation so that they can customize a plan suits your needs.

2. Premium is fixed at the age your purchase. Nowadays MLTT will have cash value accumulation aside providing you mortgage protection. At certain years, your premium will break even with cash value.

MLTT is always transferable to the other properties unlike MRTT.

For instance,

You wish to refinance same property after 5 years. If you bought MRTT for that particular property will be lapsed after refinance. And premium will be increased to current age.

For MLTT, the premium will remain at age you purchase whilst giving you full coverage til end of loan tenu

3. You can make payment for the separate entity

4. Should you sell the house, you may wish to terminate or remain the policy for your own goods.

5. You can opt to insured lower coverage at lower premium.

6. TPD coverages are for eyes, arms and legs. Claimable for a loss of arm and leg, loss of arm and eye and loss of leg and eye, subject to insurance company guideline

Definition for TPD is unable to perform at least 3 activities of daily living
a) Dressing
b) Bathing
c) Eating
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QUOTE(MrKK @ Sep 5 2016, 01:14 PM)
Hi dear,

1. Yes. you can sign the loan letter offer first but it is better to apply earlier because there's waiting period.
2. The premium rate is depending on the coverage, your age and your health condition.
3. One name per policy.
4. The policy will still on going till you surrender or till maturity period
5. Yes. you can.
6. TPD covered if loss a PAIR of eyes, a PAIR of legs, a Pair of hands. TPD covered only if you cant do the following activities > bathing, eating and dressing

CHEERS  biggrin.gif
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Thank you for the explanations
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post Oct 12 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Oct 11 2016, 10:41 PM)
Thank you.
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Dear underhill. The correct explanation is:

Maybank adopts a payment method called balloon payment. It's methodology is actually tying a so-called OD facility to your home loan.

It does not charge you more (on interest), but Maybank requires you to pay more on monthly installment. The extra in payment to bank will direct knock off the principal amount, so you could save on your subsequent interest. And interesting enough, your monthly installment will reduce over time too. So depends on whether you wanna settle the loan quickly. If you can afford to do so in a short time, why not mbb?
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post Oct 12 2016, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(drken13 @ Oct 12 2016, 10:35 AM)
Cimb also big bank rite.. drifted a bit from my main question actually hahhaa.. was asking wether anyone knows what different BR and different fixed rate of banks indicate. Hope some bankers can shed a light
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Bank offers BR (base rate) plus spread rate (not fixed rate)

BR is a rate used by banks with reference to bank negara's OPR (overnight policy rate). But each bank has its own bank book to balance, hence diffferent banks has different bank rates. In broad sense, bank rate can be explained as bank's cost of fund to offer you this loan plus some bank profits.

The spread (+0.71, +0.4 etc etc) is the additional profit the bank wants to make out of this loan deal. As you see, banks try to be competitive, so the rates are 4.x across all banks

Bank would only start to make profit provided you serve more than 28 months of repayment. Therefore there is additional 3 years lock in imposed.
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post Oct 12 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 12 2016, 11:43 AM)
Well should highlight it in cari instead of here though, don't think anyone knows him around here unless u got his contact number to leave behind, anyone can be named "Paul"
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Bro. Cut him some slack. You wouldn't want this to happen to you if you did the same. But I agree that drken13 should do that in Cari forum instead
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post Oct 12 2016, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(drken13 @ Oct 12 2016, 12:14 PM)
Done in cari. I'm only ly user. Wifey in cari.
Flaming not really my forte 😅
But yea thanks alot on the explanations regarding BR + spread rate really helps alot.

In related to mbb loan n interest. It means if we pay faster as in advance payment it will reduce principal directly right? Don't other banks do the same daily interest thingy?

Sorry if I don't get it straight from ur post ..really noo0b when it comes to numbers
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Correct explanation should be:

Maybank full flexi loan mandate you to pay more. Unlike other banks' flexi or semi flexi package where u can pay extra as u wish.

The advantage of doing so is in future when your outstanding reduces, your interest reduces as well. And you can actually lower your monthly installment.

So that is the biggest difference.

My advice to you is accept the semi flexi loan from Maybank. You can redraw(or withdraw) money directly from m2u portal directly to your saving without visiting branch or write in
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post Oct 12 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 12 2016, 12:19 PM)
The repayment of extra amount to your loan will reduce on your principle for all flexi loans. Once you've made the extra payment, the interest incurred to your account will be lesser, thus your loan tenure is reduced but your monthly installment remains the same.

So yes, it's same for most of the banks.
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Bro. Go check out the mbb full flexi package. The monthly installment reduce over time. Info slightly wrong you have provided there.

It works as principal plus interest. (Principal, not principle). So the longer u pay the lower the installment is.

Cheers. Hope that enlightens you too

This post has been edited by kok_pun: Oct 12 2016, 01:19 PM

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