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 Mortgage Loan Package Inquiries, (Strictly NO Promotion Allowed)

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Jasoncat
post May 23 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(renodiy @ May 23 2015, 10:07 PM)
any format or a just a simple letter?

after that how will the property discharge be done? bank appointed lawyer?
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Just a simple letter clearly stating your intention will do.
If you have any lawyer which you want to appoint to handle the discharge matter, just let them know. Else, they may let you to select the lawyer (or they decide it for you) to do the necessary.
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post May 25 2015, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(mnbs @ May 24 2015, 11:51 PM)
hi.. need some clarification on this, I plan to refinance my house.. from.. so indicative valuation is 680k..

i need to know th effect of cash out portion for my next property purchase..

Example if I settle my current mortage it would reflect as below:

earlier mortage value, 322k.. so 90% of 680k.. would be 612k... so the breakdown as pe below...

Property 1
Loan 1 - Settle to Bank A - 304k (calculation of new loan = at 4.4% for 30 years = 1612)
Loan 2 - Cash out from Bank B 308k- (calculation of new loan cash out portion = 308k at 4.4% for 10 years = 3177 but if I take 30 years it become 1524..

So when buying the next property.. will the new bank..let say bank C.. see this as 4789(1612+3177) or 3136(1612+1524)?

this is the part I am stuck...
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Bank C should use the actual monthly repayments of your loan from Bank B as basis for its calculation (though for Bank B it may use 10 yrs as basis of calculation for DSR but with actual 30 year loan tenure).
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post May 25 2015, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(mnbs @ May 25 2015, 12:18 AM)
Thanks Jasoncat for your valuable response... thumbup.gif
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No prob. Wish you luck.
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post May 29 2015, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(Vinic Yap @ May 27 2015, 03:44 PM)
hihi thanks for your reply.. but how do im not sure whats the drawdown amount.? can you clarify a bit ? appreciate
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If the intent of your question is to calculate / estimate the interest to be paid during the construction period, it would be around 3% to 5% as a rough gauge.
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post Jun 2 2015, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(beyond86 @ Jun 2 2015, 06:17 PM)
Since the developer solicitor Loan Agreement quotation give to me is not nice, so i told MBB that i won't choose this solicitor. And i never told MBB which solicitor i decided to use.
But they pandai pandai key in in their system that this solicitor i used for Loan Agreement.
They said if i want change this solicitor to other firm, this will caused the rate change and etc.
so the best is don't change the firm since they already key in system.

Problems is i never inform them confirm let this firm do the LA
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Tell them that you have the every rights to choose the panel solicitor that you prefer and you can't be penalised for that as in the first place they never seek your prior consent to engage the service of the current solicitor.
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post Jun 3 2015, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(robert82 @ Jun 3 2015, 01:18 PM)
Guys,

I want to ask about scenario below:
Assuming I have housing loan (semi flexi) of 500k for 30 years.

Currently I have 250k cash. So if I deposit 250k cash into this housing loan, it lowers my interest rate and I should be able to pay it off quicker.
Let’s assume at current rate of paying I will be able to pay off all 500k in 5 years time.
However as the amount loan is 500k and amount parked to reduce housing loan is 400k and amount settled in 5 years is 100k, this means I have paid extra 400k.

As my housing loan is for 30 years, I still have 25 years to go.

Here’s the tricky part.
I think and believe it is better for me to keep the cash in the account (400k) and take it out if needed rather than settle it right away.

Is this doable from bank perspective or it I will be asked to settle it right away?
Is it considered wise? Current rate of interest is 4% plus plus. Is it better to do it this way?
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For illustration, assuming that you borrow RM500k full flexi @ 4.50% for 30 years so monthly instalment is RM2533.43. If from day 1 you park RM500k into the account, the bank will charge you no interest from day 1. With the monthly deduction of RM2533.43 from your RM500k, it will take you (RM500k /RM2533.43) ÷ 12 = 16 year 5 months to fully settle the loan without a single cent of interest being charged. So, by putting the money in the account it does help to shorten the loan tenure effectively - but of course this is just for illustration purpose and if you do have RM500k in hand, you can always fully settle your loan at any time as it's just a matter whether doing so will incur penalty or not (due to log in period). Whether you want to dump the money in to save interest is a question of how much you can yield from the funds if you invest in somewhere else. So, if you are confident that you can consistently earn above the loan interest (4.50% per annum in this example), then perhaps it is advisable to let the funds make good money for you somewhere.
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post Jun 4 2015, 03:57 PM

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jun 4 2015, 02:47 PM)
correct me if im wrong

monthly deduction for principal remained the same except that your 'that' month interest payable is 0 in condition clause for utilization can be 0%

therefore you will see principal deduction in accordance to your LO/LA subject to tenure completion of 30 yrs
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If there is no extra money being parked into account, of the 1st instalment of RM2533.43, RM658.43 is for principal payment whereas RM1875 is the payment for interest portion. The portion for principal payment will be increasing while portion for interest will be reducing throughout the tenure as the loan being amortised. So, if from day 1 there is no interest element, the whole instalment will be used for principal repayment, which explains the reason why the loan is effectively fully repaid earlier than expected.

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post Jun 8 2015, 08:17 PM

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It isis not impossible to have only one name for the loan while the SPA has 2 names but I reckon that most banks have didiscouraged such practice.
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post Jun 8 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(paulwong1983 @ Jun 8 2015, 09:50 PM)
SPA 2 names but Loan only one name why no good?
in this case, it is better to buy MRTA?
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It's only good for purchasers not the bank.
It's common that the bank will try to tie up all the purchasers to show their commitments towards the property purchased. In the event of default, the bank can chase after all the borrowers instead of only one borrowers.
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post Jun 8 2015, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(paulwong1983 @ Jun 8 2015, 10:37 PM)
i applied MBB, HLB, BSN & OCBC

only MBB said can third party
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Not unexpected as this is not sth really favoured by the bank.
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post Jun 8 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(paulwong1983 @ Jun 8 2015, 10:38 PM)
form here, MRTA no need buy thumbup.gif
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Correct, MRTA doesn't really address the concern of third party loan ie default by the borrower which is still alive.
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post Jun 8 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(rockrockrock @ Jun 8 2015, 11:10 PM)
from my understanding
SPA = A + B

Loan = A

incase A got anything happend, B still need to pay installment, or else bank will lelong
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Yes, the bank should have the rights to do the foreclosure and auction on the charged property. Legally the non borrower (B in your example) has no obligation owing to the bank and the bank cannot take action against him / her. If the proceeds from the auction cannot recover the loan and all the fees incurred, the bank cannot chase after B.

The best solution for the bank is to get the money back with prompt repayment and not through the hassle of foreclosure/legal suit.
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post Jun 9 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(JamesPond @ Jun 9 2015, 10:07 AM)
means only mbb accept third party? does husband and wife is third party?
I know PBB allow for spouse
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3rd party here in this context means SPA names diff from borrowers - it doesn't really mean a party which has no blood / spouse in relation.
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post Jun 10 2015, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Jun 10 2015, 09:10 PM)
clean. no cc, no car loan, no house loan.

But bankers give me the same reply. not confident because young n just working less than a year
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Totally no borrowings is not entirely a good thing. At least with a credit card (the simplest / easiest form of borrowings) the bank still can assess the repayment records.
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post Jun 10 2015, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(MoneyMaker prince @ Jun 10 2015, 09:26 PM)
ya, this is what I told her. But some ladies just dont care.. haha
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Honestly, sometimes I just find that without a credit card is quite inconvenent. No offence but just wonder how your gf can adapt to it hmm.gif
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post Jun 16 2015, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(windblews @ Jun 16 2015, 08:25 PM)
The owner is still has an unstable income as a part time accountant and income not exceeding 2k per month.

Also the owner is retiring anytime from now.
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Based on the info furnished it's quite difficult if not unlikely to get the loan approved. One way to improve the chance of approval is to get another joint borrower who has satisfactory financial standing to the extent that it alone may get the loan approved.
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post Jun 18 2015, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Jun 18 2015, 06:49 PM)
Not all flexi come with monthly charges ya smile.gif semi flexi there's no monthly charges except full flexi.
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Sorry to say that I disagree that "no monthly charges except full flexi". It really depends on the product features of the bank. Even semi-flexi or full flexi, each bank may have diff treatment/ charges.

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post Jun 18 2015, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(ims2628 @ Jun 18 2015, 11:00 PM)
All bank semi flexi is without monthly charges, but there's a withdrawal charge when withdraw money. I'm very sure on this. And for full flexi there's one bank without any charge which is rhb there's no monthly charges and no setup fees for the full flexi loan.
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One of the reasons why I raised it is because I personally hold one flexi loan account which has no monthly charges (and other incidental charges / fee). So it's incorrect to draw conclusion "no monthly charges except full flexi".

Bank products have keep on changing its features, fees & charges due to stiff competition. I will never dare to say with 100% certainty that certain product feature is commonly shared by all the banks unless it is a regulatory requirement.
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post Jun 21 2015, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Jun 21 2015, 02:49 AM)
Yes, I bank in directly into the loan account using internet banking.. but when I calculated the interest they charged me, it looks like my extra payment did reduce the principal before taking into account the interest calculation.

That's why it confuses me since I keep hearing need to give advance notice in order to deduct principal..
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I suggest that you check with your banker. It could be either the principal has already been repaid by the extra funds or principal remain the same as per your loan amortisation schedule but interest is calculated based on the remaining principal less the advanced payments.
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QUOTE(Tsuto @ Jun 21 2015, 01:52 PM)
Hmm so whats the difference between the two in terms of total interest charged over the loan tenure? I suppose is the same but the second one loan tenure still the same not reduced?
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Yes, I share the same view.

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