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post Dec 8 2014, 11:37 AM

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post Dec 9 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Dec 9 2014, 10:54 PM)
i remembered i joined a group buy some time ago, but then the news died out, wondering if anyone still remembers it

*granite key sets*
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Its being shipped out internationally iinm. Quite a number of buyers received it oversea. When's our?!!!
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post Dec 16 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Dec 16 2014, 10:31 AM)
So I managed to sell my ThinkPad USB keyboard with TrackPoint and TouchPad for us$80 and use the money to buy my first Korean custom, 2TU with MX Blue for us$110. Is 2TU consider Korean custom? Very excited for it!
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it aint even mechanical and u can sell it off for $80?!! teach me masta notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

but going back to Cherry MX is it considered a downgrade for u? since you have been using the endgame topre switches for quite some time now... hmm.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 10:44 AM

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Pic of the day. No bb. No fortunate. No luck. Get this.
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post Dec 29 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(sarumanthewhite @ Dec 29 2014, 02:32 PM)
Does anyone here provide like 3D printing service for keycaps?
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summoning altan, he printed some for me previously
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post Dec 29 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Dec 29 2014, 03:29 PM)
I always wonder, did anyone in Lyn forum buy from this k3kc?
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i guess its quite hard to figure that out right? once u put it on your keyboard they look all the same to me, unless can mount it upside down to show the bottom of the keycap. maybe personally will feel prouder by supporting the original cc/bb maker instead of replicas, just like buying GMK Dolch vs Taihao Dolch icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 29 2014, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Dec 29 2014, 05:30 PM)
yeah, he's doing it on purpose to spite the maker of CC and BB. He went to geekhack and openly taunt them despite people asking him to go away. You are right, he has the means and tools to make caps, why copy?
Sure, sure. Some people are ok with fake stuff. Like carrying fake handbags or wearing fake Nike/branded clothes. Bags are bags, right? Shirts are shirts, right? But somehow, to me, I rather wear non-branded stuff than wear branded stuff and pretend to be in the same cool gang.
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so u saying i using taihao dolch no up enough? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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post Dec 30 2014, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(altan @ Dec 30 2014, 12:40 PM)
Anyone seeking for 3D printing service?

Made keycaps for ntw (thanks for the summon), they don't cost much, maybe about RM 5 a cap but I would suggest large quantity, say RM 40 above for free postage. I would recommend this new rubberize material for key caps rather than the hard plastic material, not so painful when pressing on keys. I can also offer customization to key caps like 3D embossing but you might have to provide me with a sketch or picture.

I even have semi transparent plastics, so you can have nice mood lighting for your keyboards  icon_rolleyes.gif
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hey man, have u upgraded your nozzle head? brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jan 20 2015, 01:15 AM

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DSA is LOVE

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post Jan 20 2015, 06:40 AM

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QUOTE(joonwei23 @ Jan 20 2015, 01:24 AM)
your D at the right arrow cluster. ocd  rclxub.gif
must unsee...  laugh.gif
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why u keep focusing on my D?!! brows.gif brows.gif

i totally didnt notice that... one of the perks of DSA profile?
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post Jan 21 2015, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 21 2015, 02:45 PM)
Thanks ntw biggrin.gif

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itu krytone mia keycap
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post Jan 25 2015, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Jan 25 2015, 11:32 AM)
Yea.. Not plan to buy another keycap so soon.. Pbt full set keycap usually would cost up how much? smile.gif

What do you think of blue switch? The sound really so annoying? Sorry it is my first mechanical keyboard.
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I bought a Keycool PBT set along with my very first mkb because I know it is worth it. I got them from China taobao, the Keycool costs me close to rm100 that time.. and now with the weak MYR the price is gonna be higher than that cry.gif better just get second hand from GS. if you need further pointers, jusnits is selling his IMSTO set for cheap!!! IMSTO and BSP are the top PBT keycaps manufacturers and their keycaps are darn thick; Keycool ones are just cheap and thin.

I graduated from using blue switch. Blues are definitely not suitable for a quiet office environment (been there done that brows.gif brows.gif) BUT if you are staying alone then it wouldn't matter and you can enjoy the orgasmic feeling by your own. anyhow switch preference is very subjective, you will need to test it out for yourself. Viewnet n All IT in lowyat plaza, HeavyArm in SS15 have display units for you to sit/stand there n type for 10-15minutes or even longer if you don't mind the staring eyes of other shoppers.
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post Jan 30 2015, 01:26 AM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Jan 29 2015, 08:28 PM)
DAS 4C
- First TKL by DAS  sweat.gif
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Not using cherry MX. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Lotus1109 @ Jan 29 2015, 08:32 PM)
Hey, is that how it looks like IRL? It looks overly pink. I almost pulled my trigger until I saw yours sad.gif
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Got Korean liao still want Jeppunis? Insaflaaa
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post Feb 8 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Feb 6 2015, 02:04 PM)
heeeee.. I am fortunate to win a Blackout Stump MX biggrin.gif
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belfong have u tried to have a go at toto/magnum/4d/genting/sentosa? with your luck, you can multiply your bank acc a few times mang
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post Feb 12 2015, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Feb 11 2015, 06:42 PM)
Kailh Switches, that's a known problem I guess.
My previous Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Chroma is using Razer Switches(Made by Kailh), and, I have several keys double-tapping(double output) problem too.  sweat.gif  Though, I sent it to Warranty/RMA, and they instantly give me 1-on-1 exchange.  smile.gif

The difference of feeling for Kailh and Cherry MX is minimal. I don't feel there's a huge gap of difference between them. But, quality, you're talking about Germany vs China. LOL.

Other than this, I also found out the feeling and actuation point of my Ducky Shine 4 and Filco Majestouch 2 TKL is different. Both of them are using Cherry MX Blue Switches.
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different actuation point on DS4 and MJ2? have u tried typing on both of them using the same keyset? i can only guess the difference in stock keycap heigh/construction might be causing this. but then again, different overall build quality might affect the typing feel though.

"with mechanical keyboard, it's all about feel"
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post Feb 14 2015, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Feb 14 2015, 02:27 AM)
haha
i got few keyboard
normal keyboard , microsoft side winder x4 and alienware tact x keyboard
so far i use dao alienware nice XD
side winder x4 is the numpad good
it can make ur keyboard become 10keyless

then now try to get mkb
cause trend and clicky sound
wanna see is it will improve the typing feel ^^
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i think you meant the Microsoft Sidewinder X6... i have briefly used one sidewinder x4 though and its really nice feel to type on them thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Feb 14 2015, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Feb 14 2015, 09:45 AM)
But from what i can see its ironic cause...
Their case is not full alu. Psu not platinum. Cooling if its air not nickel plated.

Most important hardware on their computer experience gets neglected.

Not all of them but generally. But notice alot of mkb ppl are audiophiles.

Hmm decided to use the razer rgb chroma for main rig n k70 rgb for second. Ducky shine 4 give bro inlaw as cny present.

Waiting now for the das k/b to be shipped.
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its totally wrong to make comparison this way bro. an enthusiast is enthusiastic in his/her own area of interest.

we spend on our keyboards because we are enthusiastic in it and we want to test out different typing feels on our keyboards with its wide assortments of differences and add-ons, ie: different build quality/ material used to make the board, different kind of switches with very very different kind of feedback, different stiffness of the springs used, keycaps in different profiles/height/printing/material/thickness, different add-ons like the stickers, LEDs, o-rings, novelties. there's a lot of knowledge to be learnt and trial & errors before you will arrive at the particular set(s) of combination of above mentioned that will be your ultimatum.

all in all, playing with mechanical keyboard is as much as pimping out your rig. it is a hobby on its own. it does complement the computer experience. but typing on the keyboard that we loved with a tablet alone is good enough for the mechanical keyboard enthusiasts, it doesn't necessarily need to be a powerful rig to play games/render because all we like to do is type(our computer experience doesn't get neglected); likewise coming from your perspective of a computer enthusiast, using a super powerful computer that can run graphics that bleeds your eyes out, responds to you even before you move your finger, using full copper water cooling with top brands (alphacool/hws/heatkiller/etc) will be your ultimatum, you don't necessarily need to even use a mechanical keyboard to feel good playing on your rig.

ALSO, availability of moolah is a very important factor. cry.gif cry.gif with enough of it, one can up his mechanical keyboard game from a few hundred RM to a few hundred USD; heck you can even manufacture your own keyboard to the design that you like.

by the way, kudos to you for the entrance into the mechanical keyboard scene. getting a few mechanical keyboards at the same time just to find the one that you like best is something that most of us can dream of but not capable to do it. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Feb 14 2015, 10:27 PM)
But, on your Signature, I read you're having many MKBs in your current possession. This is a sign of WEALTHINESS.
I personally, bought and used 4 MKBs since July of 2014 but, I sold 2 of them off.  tongue.gif

Now, thinking to sell off my Ducky Shine 4 too... Not sure yet. Maybe not, maybe yes.
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a second hand ducky shine 2, a free wang terminal, a custom acrylic ghpad and bmini. i assure you each of these pieces are acquired at reasonable price, none of them are more expensive than a razer bwu chroma. but if you say this is a sign of wealthiness, i can only rebut that i spend my money on what i like.

QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Feb 14 2015, 10:56 PM)
Cap Ular bukan expensive. It's just not worth the price due to using Kailh Switches.
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do u mean they are worth the price if they are using cherry mx switches?
and if the price are cheaper then its worth it when they are using kailh switches?

so you are saying it is expensive AND not worth the price because they are using kailh switch.
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post Feb 15 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(dadudeneverabides @ Feb 15 2015, 02:54 AM)
I see a faker in this thread.

Yeah, you buy a lot of STOCK and pre-built boards. That does not, in any way, make you an MKB enthusiast.

Only once you have tasted all the possible switch types for Cherry (at least!) then can you compare with others. Topre and Alps also needed to really understand MKB switches.

Next step is to try the difference between acrylic customs and SUS customs plates. Still, that is not enough because you will need to have tasted the beauty of full alu plate.

In the end though, anyone who will prefer a board which:

1. Emphasis more on bling than quality.
2. Uses clone switches with inferior and questionable quality.
3. Non-ANSI (aka "standard") non-Tsangan layout, non-ISO layout.
4. Reliance on gimmicks to sell instead of creating value.

Unfortunately, all this criteria for me points to any board which is made for "gamers" and not typist boards. Trisnek is only one of the many culprits, which also include corsair, and some models for CM (which actually improved into using standard layouts and pretty decent build quality).

However, I need to mention this to a lot of people. Most Dota 2 pros that who aren't using sponsored boards are using Topres, Duckies and Filcos. Most SC2 pros are using custom boards.

So if you are someone who ranks a bling bling board with cloned switches like Razer Blackwidow Chroma above something like a Ducky, I suggest that you exit the "mechanical" keyboard thread and go enjoy the "gaming" keyboard thread instead, because here you will be treated as a retard, but there they will worship your "good choice" and congratulate your stupidity.

So get lost, because you have nothing to contribute.
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why so serious. razer, corsair, cm, heck even armageddon and tesoro also selling mechanical keyboard, just that they are using cloned switch with inferior and questionable quality. and the pick on them using non-standard layout can't really comment anything la, since they are going for "gaming-optimized" layout doh.gif , trying to cramp as many keys onto the keyboard. bling2 is just a add-on for zhuangbility, ducky orion lightsaver gon also include bling2 as their selling point to attract higher sales.

welcome all mechanical keyboard users but teach them about differentiating between the good quality ones and bad ones. why the separation into bling2/gaming vs typist keyboard? both are still mechanical keyboard?

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Feb 15 2015, 04:00 AM)
@zennasyndroxx, PM for BEST PRICE and DETAILS. LOL. Thanks.

@yuktsi14, Kailh Switches on Custom MKB, that's rare!
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Kailh is not the only one manufacturing replica switches. Gateron for one is making replica LINEAR switches with similar if not superior quality

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post Feb 16 2015, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(DarkSilver @ Feb 16 2015, 12:15 AM)
Yes, Topre is one kind of switch only. Deal with it.  tongue.gif
And, it's mechanism is quite different compared to Cherry MX counter parts.
If not wrong, it's LINEAR like RED or BLACK but has better or smoother bounce back, and you'll need to press each key deep enough for it to register(but, it won't matter much if you're a MX Black user originally). You can say it's a REFINED version of Cherry MX Red or Black.

Cherry MX switches usually categorized into Tactile and Linear.
Cherry MX Blue, Brown, Grey, White/Clear, Green, etc for TACTILE.
Cherry MX Black, Red, Yellow, etc for LINEAR.
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topre is tactile

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