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Moogle Stiltzkin
post Dec 24 2014, 12:59 PM

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Mechanical keyboard roundup 2014
http://hothardware.com/reviews/know-your-t...boards-compared

=^-^=; good read for new buyers. it doesn't cover all mkbs e.g. ducky, filco... but still a good read.

the comparison list smile.gif
- Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
- Roccat Ryos MK Pro
- Corsair Gaming K65 RGB
- Tt eSports Poseidon ZX
- Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid-i

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post Dec 24 2014, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 24 2014, 12:59 PM)
Mechanical keyboard roundup 2014
http://hothardware.com/reviews/know-your-t...boards-compared

=^-^=; good read for new buyers. it doesn't cover all mkbs e.g. ducky, filco... but still a good read.

the comparison list  smile.gif
- Razer BlackWidow Ultimate
- Roccat Ryos MK Pro
- Corsair Gaming K65 RGB
- Tt eSports Poseidon ZX
- Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid-i
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Long time no see. wub.gif

Good read.

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However, we can say that Cherry MX key switches are indeed of higher quality than knock-offs like the Kailh switch found in Tt eSports' Poseidon ZX. That's not to say Kailh switches are bad, just that you can discern a difference when going from one to the other.


Razer BWU and Tt Poseidon are using Kailh switches.
Still, Cherry is the best! flex.gif

Too bad, the review no compare with Ducky. wub.gif


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post Dec 24 2014, 01:26 PM

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I'm looking to get a new keyboard for my workplace, the current work ergonomics are killing me.

I'm thinking of getting a 60% layout for portability and to my knowledge there's only the poker 2, kbparadise v60, ducky mini, filco minila and the hhkb available locally. I just have no idea what to go for. Are there any others I should consider? Layout's all the same right, just the switches and build quality difference?

Considering the fact that my office is an open plan I don't think anything with clicks or loud bottoming out sounds will be... acceptable. lol.

I use a ducky tkl mx black at home.

tldr; looking for a 60% mkb for work, no idea what to choose.
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(pristine @ Dec 24 2014, 01:26 PM)
I'm looking to get a new keyboard for my workplace, the current work ergonomics are killing me.

I'm thinking of getting a 60% layout for portability and to my knowledge there's only the poker 2, kbparadise v60, ducky mini, filco minila and the hhkb available locally. I just have no idea what to go for. Are there any others I should consider? Layout's all the same right, just the switches and build quality difference?

Considering the fact that my office is an open plan I don't think anything with clicks or loud bottoming out sounds will be... acceptable. lol.

I use a ducky tkl mx black at home.

tldr; looking for a 60% mkb for work, no idea what to choose.
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Dec 24 2014, 01:19 PM)
Long time no see.  wub.gif

Good read.
Razer BWU and Tt Poseidon are using Kailh switches.
Still, Cherry is the best!  flex.gif

Too bad, the review no compare with Ducky. wub.gif
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yeh... these review sites tend to only cover brands who bother to send them review units. this tends to lead to a misconception in the roundup that is the only valid choices :} but still doesn't hurt to see what these brands covered have, and to compare them.

thx :} been busy with gaming xd.... strife moba thumbup.gif



QUOTE(pristine @ Dec 24 2014, 01:26 PM)
I'm looking to get a new keyboard for my workplace, the current work ergonomics are killing me.

I'm thinking of getting a 60% layout for portability and to my knowledge there's only the poker 2, kbparadise v60, ducky mini, filco minila and the hhkb available locally. I just have no idea what to go for. Are there any others I should consider? Layout's all the same right, just the switches and build quality difference?

Considering the fact that my office is an open plan I don't think anything with clicks or loud bottoming out sounds will be... acceptable. lol.

I use a ducky tkl mx black at home.

tldr; looking for a 60% mkb for work, no idea what to choose.
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for work don't get a mkb with so much colored lighting. is very out of place for work environment xd.

for work i find a full standard keyboard with numpad is better compared to tenkeyless. the numpad is very useful (depending if your job does lots of data entry or not)

i strongly recommend cherry mx brown for work and general use :}

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post Dec 24 2014, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Dec 24 2014, 02:19 PM)
Long time no see.  wub.gif

Good read.
Razer BWU and Tt Poseidon are using Kailh switches.
Still, Cherry is the best!  flex.gif

Too bad, the review no compare with Ducky. wub.gif
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ya too bad no ducky vmad.gif and cherry dying out cause company want to earn money alot going to kailh switches and i find razer really smart after changing to kailh switches the charge people the same until now they having promotion so more people will buy hmmm really smart move.
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(cloud8992 @ Dec 24 2014, 01:34 PM)
ya too bad no ducky  vmad.gif and cherry dying out cause company want to earn money alot going to kailh switches and i find razer really smart after changing to kailh switches the charge people the same until now they having promotion so more people will buy hmmm really smart move.
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you mean these switches ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7911/razer-b...yboard-review/3

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Although that tiny logo looks like it came out from Star Trek, it actually belongs to Kaihua Electronics (also known as Kailh), a Chinese manufacturer specializing in switches, so it goes without saying that they are the OEM behind Razer's Green and Orange keyboard switches. They are far from a new company; Kailh has been making switches for over two decades, including keyboard switches. However, if someone compares their products to those from Cherry, it becomes apparent that their keyboard-related products are a direct copy of Cherry's designs. This is not illegal, however, as Cherry's patent on mechanical keyboard switches dates back in the early 1980's and thus expired well over a decade ago.

There is no reason that a copy cannot be just as good as or even better than the original. Kailh's reputation however isn't the greatest. Razer claims that their switches not only are just as good as the originals, but they have extended their life expectancy by 10 million keystrokes. Unfortunately, although we do have access to equipment that could be used for durability testing, such equipment's top speed is limited to about one actuation per 0.8 seconds. This means that 60 million keystrokes necessitates a minimum of 556 days to test a single button.

Put another way, if you could type 100 WPM eight hours per day, every day, you would perform around 122 million keystrokes per year...but those would be distributed among all the keys, so perhaps six million strokes on each key. A more likely figure would be at most 5000 words per day, six days per week, which would be 10 million keystrokes per year, or about 500K per key on average. In other words, the durability rating is ludicrous to begin with, as even the original 50 million keystrokes should greatly outlast the lifespan of the user, let alone the keyboard.

If you were to examine the specifications of Razer's new switches, it becomes apparent that their Green and Orange switches are almost identical to the Blue and Brown switches from either Cherry or Kailh respectively. In terms of performance, Razer only reduced the actuation travel from 2.2mm down to 1.9mm (Blue vs Green). The difference is even smaller for the Orange switch, as the Brown switch actuates at 2.0mm.



i've been out of the scene for a while so wasn't aware about these hmm.gif interesting

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post Dec 24 2014, 01:40 PM

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Any news about the Granite GB? Last I checked at the Massdrop Discussion, it said that it has been shipped. I hope there's no problem about missing keys and whatnot.
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Dec 24 2014, 01:40 PM)
Any news about the Granite GB? Last I checked at the Massdrop Discussion, it said that it has been shipped. I hope there's no problem about missing keys and whatnot.
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from what i heard seems to be a geekhack group thing doh.gif you'll probably find out more from there.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 24 2014, 02:36 PM)
you mean these switches ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7911/razer-b...yboard-review/3

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i've been out of the scene for a while so wasn't aware about these  hmm.gif  interesting
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yes razer is using kailh switches just they change the design a bit so that it has a shorter actuation point and put their name on the switches so its looks cooler XD
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Dec 24 2014, 01:36 PM)
you mean these switches ?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7911/razer-b...yboard-review/3

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i've been out of the scene for a while so wasn't aware about these  hmm.gif  interesting
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Maybe collaboration between Razer engineers and Kailh. laugh.gif
The green color stem so pretty. thumbup.gif
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post Dec 24 2014, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Dec 24 2014, 01:59 PM)
Maybe collaboration between Razer engineers and Kailh.  laugh.gif
The green color stem so pretty.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cloud8992 @ Dec 24 2014, 01:45 PM)
yes razer is using kailh switches just they change the design a bit so that it has a shorter actuation point and put their name on the switches so its looks cooler XD
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that as may be, i think it will all come down to pricing hmm.gif

but a shorter actuation point is always welcome nod.gif

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What are you guys opinion on 75% keyboards?
Looks like only tkl and 60% are popular here.

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post Dec 24 2014, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Dec 24 2014, 02:23 PM)
What are you guys opinion on 75% keyboards?
Looks like only tkl and 60% are popular here.
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Example of 75% keyboards?

Not really only TKL and 60% popular here.. smile.gif

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post Dec 24 2014, 02:30 PM

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Something like KBT Race 75%?

Keycool 84 too I guess but now using kailh switch sad.gif
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75% might be one of my favourite layout. I already sold my HHKB because I can't live without the dedicated arrow key and function key. It's just a hassle and impractical to me to use a Fn+number rows/Fn+arrow cluster instead of just having dedicated key.
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QUOTE(Patent @ Dec 24 2014, 02:30 PM)
Something like KBT Race 75%?

Keycool 84 too I guess but now using kailh switch sad.gif
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KBT race the keycaps very hard to find replacement.
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post Dec 24 2014, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Dec 24 2014, 02:35 PM)
75% might be one of my favourite layout. I already sold my HHKB because I can't live without the dedicated arrow key and function key. It's just a hassle and impractical to me to use a Fn+number rows/Fn+arrow cluster instead of just having dedicated key.
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So, what keyboard you using now?
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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Dec 24 2014, 02:36 PM)
So, what keyboard you using now?
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A rubber dome. tongue.gif . Probably will buy a Filco soon as I never actually owned a MX switch board before. On an unrelated note, will you restock the white Realforce keycaps anytime soon? Or is it a one time thing?

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QUOTE(nemesis94 @ Dec 24 2014, 02:39 PM)
A rubber dome.  tongue.gif . Probably will buy a Filco soon as I never actually owned a MX switch board before.
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Good. laugh.gif
Where is your pink realforce set ? sold too?

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