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post Feb 17 2019, 02:04 PM

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Any special deal for today event?
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post Mar 12 2019, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(Skistones @ Mar 5 2019, 02:52 PM)
Please help to add me too. I have just resent my request. Thanks.
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Hi please add me too. I just booked
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post Jul 28 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(RedDevils88 @ Jul 24 2020, 12:39 AM)
Waltz developer units left 37 units in total. majority of the units are 1691 sqft,
1250sqft fully booked,
a few 1088 sqft units.
958 sqft units fully sold.

informed you the latest package.
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Hmmm, but WCT staff themself informed me 70+ more unit unsold.
Yes, majority is the largest unit.
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post Aug 14 2020, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(HangHang6663 @ Aug 14 2020, 08:15 AM)
View nice and location..and near to coming soon master plan
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LOL, are you referring to the abandon GOOD master plan or new BAD master plan?
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post Aug 14 2020, 03:21 PM

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Speaking about luxury guard house.
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post Aug 19 2020, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 15 2020, 11:02 PM)
Ok I'll ask my agent and go have a look

Interested in Maple actually but wanna know how is waltz doing first

Honestly sometimes 2nd project may not carry over the defects and issues from 1st project as developer may improve upon the feedbacks. But as we all know it could be the same or even worse

And regarding defects, my opinion is no matter what price range condo you buy nowadays, be it low to high end, defects is to be expected. The important thing is how the developer respond and rectify it
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Super agree with you, no matter what the price of the condo sure will have defect. Even RM10mil property can have major defect.

What is more important when researching for developer/project reputation is,

1) How developer deal with the defect and treat their client's feedback/complaint. So far(6 weeks) most of defect resolution given by developer is temporary(defect literally resurface the next day). It might be acceptable to some but I think if your property got defect you definitely want a long term fix right? However, it is better than developer ghosting you.
2) Quality vs Price. If you are paying X amount of money, you should be expecting X amount of quality. On average, owner is paying 20+% premium PSF compared to property around that area. However, most of the fitting and material used by developer is either low or mid end. One might say quality is very subjective, so I Googled the water heater provided. It cost RM200+ in Shopee, for a RM1mil+ property.

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post Aug 19 2020, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(wrl1992 @ Aug 16 2020, 11:58 AM)
I guess I have visit myself to get to know more on this. Still not sure why one try to compare this with "luxury" given the price you are paying isnt that "luxury".
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Price and Luxury is relative.

In Waltz context, paying 20+% premium PSF compared to property at the same location is expensive/luxury.
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post Aug 19 2020, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(coolhunter88 @ Aug 19 2020, 06:29 PM)
Correction!!
NON-LUXURY BUT MID END..
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Yeah man, Paid Premium Got LOW Mid End.
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post Aug 21 2020, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(DavidKool @ Aug 21 2020, 05:56 PM)
Unsure how some owners disappointed about their own Waltz unit or the definition of over paid 20% premium.

If not mistaken, it was launched at around 600+ psf back then, lower than The Park Residence. I visited Waltz a few months ago, visited 2 of the developer units but I found the workmanship is consider decent or just nothing great to shout about. Not that terrible.

Be it luxury or middle end, it is just a naming definition but if it was at RM 600+ psf, for me it is decent and how luxury can it be with about 600-700 psf. Most of the modern highrise by big developers were selling such pricing. Unless it was RM 900-1000 psf, then I would said it is sucks and over priced.

The Park Residence looks good as a development, more facilities and grand lobby, but the workmanship and materials used based on internal unit, that was pretty very very normal and doesn't look like a RM 850 till 900 psf asking price now.
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Just go PropSocial do some research. There are also plenty of data provider can sell you recent transaction on the area.

Correction for you.
1. Buying price is closer to high 700++
2. Selling price for property that area is 500 - 600+

Now, go calculate the premium. Again, price is relative to the location/market. Expecting a premium product for premium price is the most basic thing one can do.

Ignore the low end of the price as there are plenty of unethical agents posting clickbait ads.
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post Aug 22 2020, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(TwelveStones @ Aug 22 2020, 11:44 AM)
Comparing a condo in a mixed development to a Standalone condo like Rainz, casa green or Z residence, is it a fair comparison? I personally doubt so. As far as I know Taman OUG dominantly always been landed only.

Yeah, agree that psf is obviously cheaper. Even if they are cheap, how many are willing and able to pay 10%, lawyer fees, legals fees, MOT? And also cons is no defects period warranty, so need to come from own savings also. Be prepared for major reno also.

Personally, I see Waltz and maple gives an assurance to all owners a guaranteed no possible other developments in front or the back of this project. The congestion of low cost area surrounding Awan Besar, doesnt seem pleasant at all. We people love certainty.
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EXACTLY! They sold us with mixed development then they SCRAPED the 2016 plan!!!
Now they just launched a UNDESIRABLE master plan during MAPLE launch. So how do they give assurance year 2024 they wont change their mind again?

If you speak about defect and reno, just go and see the unit. There are owner plan to fork out extra just to hack and throw away those "free gift" furnish stuff from developer.
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post Aug 22 2020, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Aug 22 2020, 02:12 PM)
Are you agents selling other projects here. LOL
else just attach photos here lar, LYN forum is very transparent.
Don't blow water only.
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LOL, go do some detective work la.
See can find any 1 post I got on other property with this 12 years old account a not.
Don't simply blow water here.
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post Aug 22 2020, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Aug 22 2020, 02:34 PM)
Sorry my relative got one unit here. They okay with the quality and workmanship delivered.
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Okay sorry. Yeah I also heard there are one or two unit with less issue. Maybe those don't have issue didn't rant, idk.
But common area defect is like, you really need to go and see yourself.
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post Aug 24 2020, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Bianca08111 @ Aug 23 2020, 10:11 PM)
Common facilities area? Level 31,30 ? This happen at north tower only? Very scary

.This is  going to have negative effect on  rental value.
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Rental value already nose dive when they scrap the masterplan and U turn tunnel.
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post Sep 3 2020, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 2 2020, 09:29 PM)
Looking at this picture I wouldnt guess its a 'luxury condo'
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Worst thing is, developer don't even provide dustbin in common area!
Like seriously?
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post Sep 3 2020, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Sep 3 2020, 01:41 PM)
Most condo memang not provide dustbin at common area now

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Ei? Your picture dustbin by management fund?
I think by "most" you meant the low end condo right?
Dustbin is really a fraction of the profit they made.
By not providing dustbin developer can't save much, doesn't make a dent in their book but definitely make a dent in customer satisfaction and their reputation.
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post Sep 3 2020, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Sep 3 2020, 03:56 PM)
This is what happen when u put dustbin at common area
All those waste causing spillage and disgusting smell

In fact high end condo all not putting dustbin in common area now as well educated people will not simply throw even there is no dustbin
Just like in japan , clean and tidy even though cant find dustbin easily
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Aiyaa, your picture is example of stupid management/developer way of dustbin.
Common area should put something like this
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And if the dustbin has spillage and smell means the cleaner doesn't do works.

Japan also got more dustbin than Waltz. You should use Taiwan as example, they got less dustbin in public place than Japan.
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post Sep 24 2020, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(TwelveStones @ Sep 24 2020, 04:05 PM)
"Or maybe i was thinking that your a SA, "
Not to promote myself but since you ask, yes i am a SA.

"If I'm buying this property for own stay, I will not care much on the depreciation of the value"
I think there are other owners here too isn't it. Make yourself known and tell it to the other owners that you don't care.

Again, i'm telling my part of observation and knowledge of the matters that same for all condo projects, that there are channels provided by laws to make voice heard and not cause detrimental result from your own actions as wise owners. Don't waste energy fighting in the wrong channel. Nonetheless, I will cheer and support and comfort you. Knowing that the other side did respond to owners from the MOM. I personally have not seen other projects have ZERO defects.
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To be honest, sharing it here or any social platform can help our fellow forumer/community getting the insider insights on what they are signing up for. It is good for giving back rather than personal gain.

How effective in terms of resolving it doesn't really matter in this equation if we are talking about supporting our community here. If owners want to resolve it, is really talking directly to developer or related agency. And I can reassure you, owners definitely have spend significant amount of effort to do so.

I hope/wish more owners can share their experience so that I know which developer(not only WCT) I need to be careful in the future.

Also experience shared here is only 10-20% of what the owners are dealing with.
I hope it is true but your observation is not even close to what you have said.

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post Sep 24 2020, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(coolhunter88 @ Sep 24 2020, 03:21 PM)
Well, everyone has their own reasons of doing so..
For my own opinion, we hope that if we share the current issues which is happening right now, WCT may pay attention on the feedbacks of owners.. You may not have the idea how does WCT deals with the owners of Waltz and its a pain in the ass.
If I'm buying this property for own stay, I will not care much on the depreciation of the value.. I just want to fight what suppose to be the best for myself and the owners.. Bro, the product that was delivered is even worse than rumah WIP or any other mid range condo..
The developer is fixing the issues, but many incidents / accidents happened whereby relates to safety matters and I as a owner couldn't start my renovation or some might afraid of moving in... And yet WCT is convincing us of the building is safe to move in whereas its not.. and still wants us to pay for management fees..

Yes management fees is a no doubt a fix cost. However seems like the owners gotta pay for the mistake done by third parties.. Even a bloody dustbin is not found in the common areas, and requested the owners to pay for it... however FYI, we manage to get free dustbin from develop.. thanks for that..

Or maybe i was thinking that your a SA, where we are standing in your way of promoting your product??  hmm.gif
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Don't think we got the dustbin for free thou.

 

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