Big4 very shorthanded becos lotsa ppl go overses eg Singapore, HK to work-that's why easy to apply. Not so sure what can happen if really got recession in June in US, Europe and maybe even in China/ singapore. Maybe then it will be like big4 overseas- next to impossible unless you are PR. Alos try to apply if your cgpa grade less than 3 or equivalent or no prof qualification like ACCA. Probably no replylah. They go for the well known uni first and then the rest just on respond to papers. Current shortage give ppl with lower scores to apply and if can do well in interview still got chance of working with Big4. Maybe afterwards with prof qualification and ezperience can go elsewhere.

Good time to join since the busy period is over. Relaxlah. LOL. What course u complete that makes u apply so late? What grades? One important point is to dress appropriately like them!! If u do not know how they are dressed, ask your frens.

No harm speaking to all. As much as they want u, u also want to find the right employer. If you are good enough, no problem with getting a good job. Be Brave!!!Good luck.



This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 8 2008, 01:25 PM

It is quite acceptable to wear a dark-colored non matching jacket over shirt and skirt. Malaysia not so formal. Where u learn japanese? surely not by reading the menu?

If u look like in your picture, i think they will not let u go until u sign the employment>

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 8 2008, 01:33 PM

hr positions now very exciting in bigfour- always new ways to attract young ppl, new project, community, organising parties for passing exams, promotions, annual trips, overseas recruitment = most happening place unless u are payroll then most routine and annoying job- go for recuritment, student affairs, everybody wants to be number one- plenty of money to spend.

Aiyah--u look sweet and pleasant enuf somemore complain. (why 60kg can gvie bigger bs meh?)

If u do not get a job i will be very surprised. Most time they will be looking for someone e pleasant personality, well- organised and pleasant voice as they will be dealing with many high level executives. Knowing Jap will be a big plus esp if Jap boss. Relax (Oooopps can u type?)

First rule of secretary- make fren with boss wife.

Second rule. ....... make fren with boss.

Third. . after i finish my coffee.

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ex-lah--------- now drinking coffee.

a hemm cough cough

if u look like TB, half the guys will fall in luv with you alreadi lah


and the other 50% too shy to say so leh!


(Maybe boss wife see u and now worry kaw kaw? How now to get job? Beauty also got problems )

teeem - mau (canto for sweetcat)

enuf laughs for today- sleep well and hv a successful interview tomolo. Don't show all your barang barang tomolo okay. Let usknow th good news !!

(2nite apply online to D for position opposite the Jap manager office)

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 8 2008, 06:14 PM

veena,
normally assessment only for professional staff- secretary do test typing, compose simple letters lah- then they check for mistakes (spelling can use spell check and grammar check so now no problem)
lotsa places to eat in uptown so car only for to/fro work. nowadays secretary work very relaxlah- alot of new managers/directors can type themselves- only checking appointments, answering phone calls and taking care of boss wifey/ children- sometimes pening also.

sweetcat - like u said earlier wear something like shirt and skirt and a dark blazer\/jacket that all the ladies always like black or something- look professional alredi. Bet u sure get job. Good luck.

(u sure the hr lady in D is not reading this uh? U sure the foto real?).
Things u try to ask gently:
One- Where is my car park?
Two- Do I have to speak to the boss wife?
Three_ How may days sick leave can I get ayear?

CeeJay,

I'm not in the secretary position ler... Audit no need do any exam/assessment to join one? Are you an auditor as well??

Which photo u mean?? Sweet cat photo??

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prof staff all got assessment test - no escape inlcuding audit.

One hidden benefit- big4 firm good place to look for your future one- so many young man start here to become partners, cfo, MD, etc- catch them when they are still stupid with girls (Man develop slower than females- still mong cha cha in their twenties esp the smart ones). You two girls can kowtim anyone of them.

normally immediately after the test- they can marked and results available before interview= lah. Most ppl will pass esp if can write like you here

no harm lah- got secret weapon must use huh? Life must interesting !! why only d the others not good meh? u got choice of one utama or sentral or damansara or uptown?

veena,
what other job u get to go to so many places/ companies (many are blue chips), work with so many young ppl like you , meet so many professional, hgh level execs-- lucky to be in big firm -at least you know u are getting the right experience and professional qualification (they pay the course for you). In most country u are already considered on your way to a successful career.
should nt be afraid of hard work-lah - only if u kenot go anywhere. Like u make more money like in a bank but after three years who are u? in B4, u get your experience and pro qualification to go the next step- whether commerce, or overseas or even stay on- Big4 is a blue chip MNC--duh!.

Good luck - u will also meet alot of your college mates there too!

Secret weapon- don't need car- use your charm- sure got sucker driving you around?

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the interview is ok, and i heard from the lady who recommend me this job says that the director first impression to me is good. i wear black blazer white shirt n black skirt.


. . . got belanja us for the goooooooooooood advice???

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 9 2008, 06:40 PM

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Sweet Cat,

I wan Coffee Bean Coffee.... haha... Got assessment to do... ENGLISH, VOCABULARY, IQ TEST....... I shall attend 3 days English tuition now to brush up my English... Btw, IQ test... is it on maths historical and statistics? Is it tough? You pass easily? How long U spend in the interview? U seem to be spending almost whole day there...

veeeeeee,
normally they want to test u on numbers/ maths/logic- becos if u not comfortable with numbers -very diff to succeed in finance type job lah. Some ppl just go blank when given numerals type tests. Normally quite easy to pass.
When is your interview? did u do VT at D too?

V,
first time i hear ppl donwan to go interview becos of transport problems--go and find out what they offer first. U are just starting out- u should be brave and find out more. U already hv exp in big4- but u went there at the busiest period- if u can survive that u can do well. Bet with you -compare yourself with your frens in other job after three years- if still regret- I am sure if u want to do accounting/financial, this is the best choice. U do not sound like a rich gurl (no car or driver) but professional qualf can still take u very high up and on your own merit 2.

Okay- okay i think too much cafferine for me this morning but still u are very lucky to have good education oredi. Schedule interview to a convenient date so u can concentrate on exams. This is past busy season n i think D can wait for a week.

Relax- if uare really good, they will try to sell u how good D is- ask them all the question like work environment, how much ot, etc etc all the things u saw/experience as VT-

Question?- why your VT firm no offer you jobleh?

rich gurl ? . . papa not counted lah onli if papa got driver.

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 10 2008, 08:53 AM

. . . your boi boi is. . . . IKEA!!! son- aiyoh - don't let go this "chai tau".

sweet cat---aiyoh-so young u r oredi soooooo lucky. I never gave anyone inlcuding mother something so big as complete furniture for house. Like that next bf must gif whole house ( eh u don't hv to return the furniture to boiX2 do you?

v,
don't be so sensitive - sometimes application also lost in mail and maybe not recruiting season. Dun find ways to reject - there are only four- compare them lah go for all four interviews better mah. Some ppl wan also kenot get in.

Advisory- generally take less junior staff as senior consultants are expected to have industry experience but ITA and ITRM are good places to start esp if you have strong IT background. U probably b offered some IT qualification to enhance your expereince. Specialised but in big demand.
Corporate finance - u may be better working in an investment bank first before going to big4.
SAP-too specialised.
Audit- for those who want to be more "finance"- do a prof qualication in the three years- U can also switch later to other jobs like banks, tax, corporate finance, investment after you qualify. Probably has more options to do something different due to varied audit experience.

BTW cgpa grad of 3.5 plus master should get u interview at all the big4. Relaxz lah.

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 15 2008, 08:07 PM

something from a fren; Big4 vs Big Bank

New grad-Big4 vs BigBank
Start pay
Big4- 2400/2500
BigBank-2800

Wkg hours/ OT
Big4- Work like dog but got OT and allowance
BigBank- Work like a Dog

Environment
Big4- Lotsa of young ppl,
BigBank- Lots of clerical staff, ham palang yau.

After three years
Big4- Qualified accountant - looking for job
BigBank- Looking for job but cannot pay off housing loan and car loan

After five years
Big4- Manager- looking for job or maybe in London.
BigBank- Looking for job.

Car loan
Big4- From Papa and mama bank.
BigBank- Ah Kong Bank give loan after one year but can only buy Saga.

Housing loan
Big4- No-Stay with parents
BigBank- Can afford low cost apartment but handcuffed to bank for next 15 years. Sei-loh!

Prof Training
Big4- Free prof course but miss classes to lepak
BigBank- Free to lepak.

Job Training
Big4- So many courses to do- can die wan.
BigBank-Can teach uncle auntie on opening saving account.
BigBank-Can collect HP Debt w/o breaking somebody's leg.
BigBank-Also learn to speak with threatening voice.

Motivation- client
Big4- Date the MD's secretary
BigBank- Help leng lui who donot know how to use ATM

Motivation-at work
Big4- Plenty of sweet young things- male/female
BigBank- Go for teh tarik and nasi lemak at 10am and 4pm daily.

Travel
Big4- Always at customers' place, sometimes overseas.
BigBank- Going to shopping mall to sell credit cards

Downside
Big4- Ladies are a lot smarter and cleverer than u. And they do not want to go out with you.
BigBank- Ladies want to marry you quick and open joint account.

Upside
Big4- Lots more ladies than men in office- you are in demand yoh!!! (Only to carry files-duh!)
BigBank- Going to shopping mall to sell credit cards- hopefully at Curve, 1U not selayang mall.

Marriage
Big4- Too busy to marry
BigBank- Married too early

Tendencies
Big4- Talk with Aussie slang although study in sunway only
BigBank- Talk in canto although never study mandarin

Career goals
Big4- Want to work in China to meet PRC girls and earn big bucks
BigBank- Went to meet PRC girls at karaoke and spent big bucks.

Revelations
Big4- Client money not your money.
BigBank- Bank money not your money.


So which would you choose?

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 17 2008, 01:48 PM

new one. . for V

Bg4- Selling Roxy bikinis at website
BigBank-Watching Roxy bikini at porn-site.. .too much time leh



. . anybody know answer to following:

HR Partner is a
-P Sentral- Female/Male?
-E Damansara- Female
-K-1U- Male?
-D uptown-Male/ Female? :

This post has been edited by ceejay: Apr 18 2008, 09:35 AM