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 PROTON EXORA BOLD OWNERS THREAD! V4, Turbo vrooom vrooom pssssstt

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post Jun 3 2016, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 2 2016, 12:24 PM)
WHICH CAR IS BETTER PREVE CFE OR EXORA CFE
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bells&whistles I choose suprima. for 7 seater it's a no brainer
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post Jun 22 2016, 11:15 AM

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i would avoid manual CPS. underpowered. but good base to put bolt-in-turbo or supercharger. just prepare another 8-10k for that
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post Jun 27 2016, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Jun 27 2016, 01:58 PM)
Tukar CVT oil today at 50k.
Old oil looks shiny red, filter element is pinkish red with no weird element.

I was told the stock CVT oil is long life grade, working in an enclosed environment.
It would last all the way to 80k km without the need for replacement, just regular top up would do.

I poured in Amsoil CVT. Just shairng, not that I recommend anything special.
No difference after oil change.
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Be careful on the CVT oil used.
http://service.punchpowertrain.com/product...il1e/id/77.html

The old CVT oil (red) is based on Mobil EZL799 standard.
Now proton used the blue bottle, I believe based on Petronas Tutela.

Bought it for RM38 per bottle today for oil change before raya.
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post Jun 27 2016, 06:28 PM

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Checked https://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/tran...etic-cvt-fluid/, it has Punch EZL 799A listed, so the oil should be good biggrin.gif
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post Jun 29 2016, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(nufeww @ Jun 29 2016, 09:29 AM)
Hello Guys.

I am looking to add some additive like Liquid Moly Ceratec or Ws2.
Anybody using it? Can share some experience.. TQ
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additives are not recommended until the sludge build up issue is solved. X1R was not to be put in the engine due to this.
http://www.funtasticko.net/info-memo-araha...ntuk-enjin-cfe/
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post Aug 2 2016, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(raclette @ Aug 1 2016, 02:46 PM)
so what was the solution smile.gif
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I encounter this before.

Changed wiper motor.
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post Aug 2 2016, 06:01 PM

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Lucky exora later batch got improved with ESC and vacuum assist
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post Aug 16 2016, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 16 2016, 02:02 AM)
Better don't. Change the oil hose ok, but not more.
Noted... but that'll have to wait.
No. I just learned to get used to it.
This is the factory recommendation for clutch adaptation:
http://service.punchpowertrain.com/wap_pro...l_en/id/32.html
http://service.punchpowertrain.com/wap_pro...l_en/id/33.html

If cannot follow, ask SC to perform it.
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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 11:13 AM)
That's going overboard. As long as you use the CORRECT engine oil and keep your filter clean, there shouldn't be any problem. We have diesel turbo engine going up to 500K and never have any problem.

If you really wanted maximum performance, may be clean the piping and intercooler occasionally to get rid of oil film but none of my friend ever bother to do that.
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why not service the turbo unit and see inside, primarily the shaft and the bearings. As long as the turbo was put back to it's original balanced condition it should be OK.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JD1MQRT5AQ

Opening the turbo will show the real condition inside there, if there is already any sludge build ups.


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post Aug 16 2016, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 12:05 PM)
There is a saying....if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Like I say, among our group of friends with many driving turbo charged diesel engines, none of us ever have turbo problem up to 500K. Just be very sure to use the CORRECT engine oil and clean air filters.

I said 500K km because none of us keep our cars beyond that figure.
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The scary thing about EB turbo is that it tend to fail, even before 50k km mark due to sludge build up. some say it's due to iron hose. some report before was due to X1R. some due to late oil change. this is preventive only. just to make sure no issue and peace of mind.

QUOTE(ir5 @ Aug 16 2016, 02:15 PM)
"this guy is a pro"? where is it bro? Zordaq?
sharing is caring...
I think i've never serviced the turbo set since bought it on 2012..huhuhu
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I think it's Pak Tam of tam Turbo in Kg Melayu Subang. I sent in mine before raya and was satisfied with the workmanship and he is very knowledgeable on the turbo setup.

He did not change any of the internal parts though during the service, which I must say a bit on the -ve side. So for next service, I'm preparing the bearings and oil seals to be changed. Probably before 100k mark the wear and tear still ok, but after that should not be reused again.

his contact is 018-2777027
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 03:05 PM)
That's why I emphasized on the CORRECT engine oil. Use the wrong one and I would not be surprised at turbo failure. And we would never use any engine oil additive, X1R included. OCI and air filter also very important. Do those and we have never encountered any failure.
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apparently there were cases where service was done on time in SC with the engine oil from SC, no additive.
yet the turbo failed due to sludge build up.

have you seen OCH burst after 2 weeks changed? that happened as well
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post Aug 16 2016, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 03:56 PM)
May I ask, what is OCH?
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Oil cooler hose
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post Aug 16 2016, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Optiplex330 @ Aug 16 2016, 04:06 PM)
Proton have a recall on the hose.

I am not familiar with turbo charged petrol engine. But have many friends using turbo charged diesel for long time. On the other hand, diesel engine oil tends to have higher detergent than petrol's so that may be a factor.
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I don't know about others but mine never got recalled. even when checking with the SC, they say the hose is in good condition, that was when 90k km on the meter.

turbo charged diesel are very reliable and built tough. not sure with petrol ones though. ever since wira mods with Evo engines, turbos were most unreliable though essential for delivering more power.

I would not say turbo on CFE a total failure though. proton need to be more refined, especially in engine oil replacement and service interval. the manual book which most are following is 10k with fully synthetic oil. it seems not the case though. many opt to service much earlier to reduce risk of oil sludge build up.


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post Aug 17 2016, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Aug 17 2016, 11:41 AM)
I know of his reputation, but curious of his workmanship.
If can, do share once he's done.
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Mine was done by his worker.
Not using clean hands and tools. Just using petrol to clean and compressed air to remove dirt.
Basically stripped the turbo down to the single shaft and bearings removed and cleaned.
They show me the condition before servicing, the engine oil inside housing and the metal oil pipe if it's blocked or not.

My unit is OK, except the main shaft has visible scratch marks near the blade. The bearings are all ok.

Workmanship is ok, not top notch considering this is bawah pokok style. However since this is only one of two workshops currently offering turbo maintenance I don't have much to say.
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post Sep 23 2016, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(tehsarbat @ Sep 21 2016, 04:31 PM)
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post Oct 12 2016, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(riezzien @ Oct 11 2016, 09:54 PM)
Hi guys.
Wanna ask if anyone here having problem with the Exora Bold aircond is not cold?
Especially after left in open parking.
My car is year 2014.
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Cucci filter & add gas
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post Oct 17 2016, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(sil3ntHunt3r @ Oct 16 2016, 06:43 PM)
Hi,

Anyone know any 3rd party overhead dvd player for Exora?
My OEM dvd player remote is missing in action, hence considering to change to 3rd party player.
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I think you can get the replacement remote from proton, for about rm30.

https://my.carousell.com/p/46531061/
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post Feb 2 2017, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(RickRock @ Feb 2 2017, 03:05 PM)
Hi everyone. Am interested on Exora due to family member increase. Upgrade from sedan to MPV.
Test drive Exora and Ertiga last month, wife prefer Exora due to space and complain Ertiga interior hard to maintain.
I a bit "reject" proton due to previous experience, Waja owner!!!
Question:
1. Power steering - Feel very heavy compare to others such as Myvi and Honda. Any female owner here and share, as this will be my wife weekday ride. Will it hard to handle?
2. ISOFix - One thing border me a lot is the 2nd roll do not come with ISOFix, is there any solution to add the ISOFix? Child seat is a MUST for me.
3. Service center - Am staying near shah alam, so properly will send to proton HQ for service, I presume they should be 1 of the best since is the HQ, am my assumption correct?
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1. my wife drive the exora almost daily to fetch the kids at school. she has no complaint. and she is small, 150cm+. power steering/handling wise, not many can match waja handling, but I think the power steering do the job well. try it for a while, you can control with ease
2. isofix only for you to easily mount child seat. You might need to buy extension to fit big seat, but really not a deal-breaker
3. yeah, COSE is good, you can get replacement parts easily compared to smaller service center. however COSE is packed most of the time so you need to really plan for servicing.
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post Apr 8 2017, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(brotan @ Apr 8 2017, 01:43 PM)
hi all,

i still experience my exora jerking during slow movement or reverse. i have tried the method a forumer suggested (alternate between D,R,N gear multiple times) but it helps only for a short while and the issue came back

possible this is due to gear box?
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try clean/service the oil control valve (OCV)
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post May 5 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ May 5 2017, 06:35 PM)
Hi Exorian friends,

Just want to ask, how long does your tyre last?

My 3 yrs old Exora with only 29K mileage, is almost near to its end on its original Champiro BAX 2 tyre. It's a weekend car, which means either run during weekend, or just go nearby.
Spend most of its lifespan running in the city, sometimes run outstation. 

Felt that it's quite short lifespan for this tyre, compared to other cars which can do 40-50K mileage on their tyres.

Sorry if I ask this question again.
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The original bax2 tyres tend to harden as they ages. they will become very noisy, unbearably noisy.
I think I changed mine about 40k as well.
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post Jun 6 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Jun 6 2017, 08:00 AM)
hmm.gif  feels like Proton SC rip me off  laugh.gif
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for cfe the spark plug is a bit expensive, normally sold for 200-400 range.
The normal spark plug for campro engine is cheap as the lelong one.

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