Source ?

Kebetulan terbuka replay first leg second half final aff 2010 .

Mat yo godmode... Safee , mahali and amar rohidan didnt put a foot wrong....

Boleh tgak kat mata masing2 how pumpped up they were...

The most surreal 10 minutes of football in my life..

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Kenapa the same set of players boleh deteriote so much ?

Apa yang beza ? Nt Coach ? Import ? Jdt ? Presiden fam ?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 20 2014, 11:50 PM

Harap saham safee masih tinggi kat indon...then move back there after aff..

Its better for him to maintain his import status elsewhere than to stay in malaysia and compete wih imports....

Some time import players get more playing time not only because of their ability and physicality, but also due to their 'import status' .... Due to commercial , financial and professonal politics, the management would want the expensively selected imports to do well. So they will provide all the tools needed for that to happen at the expense of local players.

Its unfair to sweep the problem under the carpet by blaming local players mentality when they cant compete when it was an unfair competetion to begin with..

The odds were never in their favour.

I am all for competetion . But only if playing time is not the stake of the competition...because playing time is the tool needed to compete. Kalau yg menang je dapat tool tu, yg kalah akan terus kalah. That is not a healthy competition to me.

kita paksa pemain untuk solve dan improve masa 90 minutes atas padang.... Baru btol.

Sebab tu aku pelik bile ade orang nak dismiss lions dari liga kita....they can win an import infested league without imports. dgn team macam ni la yang patut kita bersaing dan berguru..

Ade saingan + guna kudrat sendiri = improve

Ade saingan + guna kudrat org lain yg setelkan = org lain la yg improve....

Anyway...aku hanya lay down my points to counter opinion yg cakap import > improve liga >improve our national team..... Its not that simple..

Tapi aku tak harap pon fam akan mansuhkan import balik walaupun aku yakin its the right thing to do . aku concede yg imports will not go anywhere soon .

We can take our time .

But sooner or later kita kena buat something to dance around the import situation. Continuously putting the blame solely on metality of our players will not improve our national team . Kita tak boleh apply Type A solution to Type B problem. Dah tahu kita ni Type B, apa kita nak buat ?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 21 2014, 02:03 PM

Tepuk sebelah tgn takkan berbunyi.....

The teams also have to get out of their comfort zone to offer that import spot to us...

As I said before import selection have high commercial, financial and political stake. People can lose their jobs if the selection turned out wrong.

safee sali fits that criteria when pelita jaya signed them after 2010.

The case for us need to overwhelming for it to happen.... Right now its pretty weak....

Luckily I dont have to be politically correct as him when giving opinion...

From his selection I doubt imports dont have any impact at all...

Kita tgk je la result camne nanti... Dollah pon nampak cam tak lame dah..... Pintu pdrm pon cam tak tutup bebtol je lepas die blh hari tu..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 21 2014, 10:07 PM

Quite interesting data here...thanks for the info..

Its a assesment for asian club competition. I suprised national team contribute any point at all..

Actually kalau ikut ratio club 10.975 / 70 compare to national team 7.179 / 30 , our clubs yg ketinggalan.

Tapi its interesting to see dynamic national team and clubs across asia.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 21 2014, 11:45 PM

A dose of some feel good weed before tomorow...

A league where no one is paid and everybody plays

Indon pon nampaknya become worse dari 2010 team.....

Teringin nak dgr komen abang bonek...

Satu je goal betol . Lagi 3 all comical...

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 22 2014, 10:26 PM

Thing about salary cap is, if you reaaallllly want to be fair to allllll team, the salary standard would be too low and not competetive and fair to the players...

Kalau conveniently propose standard salary cap just so yours and a few other team je boleh lawan jdt, then the fight for fairness is hypocritical..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 22 2014, 10:44 PM

1. shukor memang takleh adapt dgn level international sekang ni.
2. mahali, apek, afif main bagus...
3. we were much better when amri on the right...
4. Referee mesia too lenient . Byk kali dah player kita kene kad merah wether kat international or afc cup.
Need to look into that.


............................mat yo....................

.......kunalan...................................amri...

......................safiq......hafiz kamal.......

zubir....fadhli shas...shukur....afif.....mahali....

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 24 2014, 02:16 AM

Knowing thailand, for the first 25 minutea kita akan kene pinned down. So its important to hold fort first and weather the storm. Game sebenar hanya akan bemula lepas 25 minites..... Sebelum tu, ade 2 forward pon tak guna sebab bola tak akan sampai pon.

Shukor sebagai DM memang takleh cope tapi sebagai libero third centreback he maybe can still do it. ..aku nampak die sorang je boleh main libero dalam lineup yg kita ade. I definately tak pecaya kat muslim.

Based pade game vs singapore, thai memula nampak gempak , tapi lelama derang pon buntu juga. Masa tu la kita tukar formation to either push shukor ke midfield jadi 433, or sub shukur untuk masukkan sorang lagi striker...

Nampak letih betol dollah salleh. I never thought a dark skinned person could turned soo pale.

Pergi sorang2 pon achieved zero result jugak sebelum ni..... Rember akmal rizal, titus james, stanley bernard , fazli saari , juzaili sameon?... ..last last orang kampung macam shukor adan, amri yahya dan inderaputra gak jadi legend.....

Lebih baik hantar satu kumpulan bagi aku....at least derang learn how to know, trust, solve problem and depend on each other as a team...

Aku rasa antar youth satu team ke luar adelah lebih baik for our football in the long run.....daripada player pergi sorang2....

And sama macam menj, kelakar plak bile dgr org cakap terlampau banyak sekolah sukan adelah satu masalah......

On the contrary, aku rasa model bukir jalil , ss tmj dan ss gambang patut ditambah lagi ke seluruh malaysia macam kj dok plan tu. ....

Top of the cream akan still pergi ke gambang. Tapi payung kat bawah kene besar...

1. Kelab main terminate je kontrak player suka hati tetap salah. Baik local atau import. Apa player import takde anak bini ?

2. By system, pemain local will never be better than import. Kalau local player made an improvement, macam hadi yahya, safee sali, and mat yo did previously masa zaman takde import, the pressure in on the club to raise the bar and find better import out there to counter improvement atau usaha yg local player buat... Its a moving goal post system.... Macam marathon yg finishing line die bergerak je tak habis-habis.....

3. Manade local player duk kak bench dan harap national team call up. ....tu bukan satu masalah... Derang just follow laluan rezeki memasing.....Problem sekarang coach yg tak ade pilihan dan terpaksa panggil player walaupun derang duk kat bench...something is wrong there when that happens...

4. Sebenarnye on pure footballing sense , takde masalah pon kalau local yg tak bagus terpaksa give way to imports. Dah tak bagus , bagi je la yg bagus main. Ye tak ? Liga kita akan lagi kuat dan gempak kalau pemain dipilih 100% atas football attributes dan bukan nationality.

Bagi aku keje pemain bola ni dah same dgn pekerja kontrak, maid or operator pengeluaran. Dah org kita tak minat nak buat, baik bagi je kat org luar yg lagi minat dan skillfull. ...org kita pon takde masalah nak sokong sehati sejiwa team yang 100% pemain pemain luar .

Masalah sekaran fifa yg ngada2 nak buat system bola kuno berdasarkan nationality. Asia cup la. World cup la. Pastu bila team kita kalah , mulala keluar nama chinaun la moktar dahari la.... tu yang boring tu..zaman tu boleyla....bukan nye ade player import pon...

Kalau btol this is just temporary hiccup ,dan lelama after some time in near future , dgn adenye pemain import, national team kita akan jadi power sebab kita dah tak main sesama sendiri, tak apa. I am all for it.


Tapi sejak kita ade import balik ni, result national team makin teruk. The grim truth is, aku tak nampak how things will improve kalau kekal je camni...

5. Aku suka cara di mana kita tetap main lawan org luar tetapi still maintain playing time. Macam yg lions sedang buat sekang ni. That way, kita push pemain local untuk take the challenge on the pitch, where it matters, daripada spiraling downwards on the bench..

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 25 2014, 10:56 AM

Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.

Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.

Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.

Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.

Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.

Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.

Valid goal.... Free kick taker have every right to take early kick if they want to waive the 10 step wall...

They now have a bigger jalan besar stadium. What do you know...

Its just a matter of time before we realise that we practically should do the same tooo with snbj...

Tu la yg aku dgr 2 org jer ditahan masuk sebelum match myammar...

Penyokong kita sikit kat stadium simply because memang sikit je yg beli tiket tu....fam terpaksa pulang balik baki tiket ke singapore...

Mungkin fans kita kureng sebab dah nampak tahun ni kita takkan menang...

Thats understandable....

Tapi kalau kehadiran penyokong berkadar rata dgn kemungkinan untuk menang, what weed did those burmese smoking to make them think they have higher probality then us ?

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 26 2014, 03:16 PM

Basah + sintetik = red card.

This will mess with the live programming...