Governing body: Football Association of Malaysia (FAM)
Confederation: Asian Football Confederation (Asia)
Regional confederation: ASEAN Football Federation (Southeast Asia)
Head coach: Dollah Salleh (MAS) In service since: 2014
Captain: Shukor Adan
Home stadium: National Stadium, Bukit Jalil
FIFA code: MAS
FIFA ranking: 156 (October 2014)
Highest FIFA ranking: 75 (August 1993)
Lowest FIFA ranking: 170 (April 2008)
Kit 2014
The Malaysia national football team (Malay: Pasukan bola sepak kebangsaan Malaysia) nicknamed Harimau Malaya, after the Malayan Tiger, is the national team of Malaysia and is controlled by the Football Association of Malaysia (FAM). Before 1963, the team represented the Federation of Malaya and was known as the Malaya national football team.
The most significant successes of the team has come in the regional AFF Suzuki Cup (formerly known as the 'Tiger Cup'), which Malaysia won in 2010 for the first time in history. They beat Indonesia 4–2 on aggregate in the final to capture the country's first major international football title.
Malaysia had many top players since the creation of the Federation of Malaya until the country became known as Malaysia, such as the legendary Mokhtar Dahari and Sabah's Hassan Sani and James Wong, which led Malaysia into their golden age during the 1970s until the 1980s. Before Mokhtar, The Malaysian King of Football, Datuk Abdul Ghani Minhat was the most famous and respected footballer in the whole Malaya during the 1950s until the 1960s. Malaysia's 15–1 victory over the Philippines in 1962 is currently the record for the highest win for the national team and the record has never been broken since then. In the current generation, Mohd Safee Mohd Sali and Norshahrul Idlan Talaha are considered by Malaysians as their best striker pair.
In the FIFA World Rankings, Malaysia's highest standing was in the first release of the figures, in August 1993, at 75th. Malaysia's main rival on the international stage are their geographical neighbors, Indonesia and Singapore, and past matches between these two teams have produced much drama. Malaysia is one of the most successful teams in Southeast Asia along with Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam, winning the ASEAN Football Championship 2010 and other small competitions while improving at the same time.
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Bangunlah wahai semua penyokong Satukan lah hatimu Tinggikan sorakanmu Demi Malaysia...... Ooo oooo ooooooo ~~~~~~~ Mana kamu! (Kiri) Mana kamu! (Kanan) Malaysia ku! (Kiri) Malaysia ku! (Kanan) Dimana pun kamu kami ada selalu...... Berikanlah! (Kiri) Berikanlah! (Kanan) Kemenangan! (Kiri) Kemenangan! (Kanan) Berikan lah kami sebuah kebangaan....
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Hari ini aku datang keranamu Hari ini jiwa hati kita bersatu Darah engkau darah aku jadi satu Malaysia tetap selamanya dihatiku..... Oooo ooooooo ooooooo ooooooooooo (3x) Selamanya Malaysia kan dihatiku La la la la la la la la la (3x) Selamanya Malaysia kan dihatiku
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Ultras Malaya, ekor Harimau Malaya Ultras Malaya, ekor Harimau Malaya Kami turun ke Bukit Jalil Satu jiwa sokong Malaysia Musuh durjana! dibunuh saja..
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Ayuh bangkit bersama.. Demi nusa dan bangsa.. Kan ku julang namamu oh tanah airku Malaysia yang satu.. Kan ku julang namamu oh tanah airku Malaysia yang satu MA! LAY! SIA!
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Oh Malaysia engkau tetap di hati Oh Malaysia gunung sanggup di daki Oh Malaysia lautan kurenangi Berjuang dan berbakti untuk ibu pertiwi Oh Malaysia tanah tumpah darahku Kukorbankan nyawaku hidup mati untukmu..
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Mana kamu! (Kiri) Mana kamu! (Kanan) Malaysia ku! (Kiri) Malaysia ku! (Kanan) Dimana pun kamu kami ada selalu... Berikanlah! (Kiri) Berikanlah! (Kanan) Kemenangan! (Kiri) Kemenangan! (Kanan) Berikan lah kami sebuah kebangaan.
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_______________________________________________________________ Competitive record
Olympic Games *before 1992 1972: Group stage 1980: Qualified but withdrew
AFC Asian Cup 1976: Group stage 1980: Group stage 2007: Group stage 2015: Champions
Asian Games *before 2002 1958: Group stage 1962: Third place 1966: Group stage 1970: Group stage 1974: Third place 1978: Semi-finals 1982: Group stage 1986: Group stage 1990: Group stage 1994: Group stage 1998: Group stage
AFF ASEAN Football Championship 1996: Runners-up 1998: Group stage 2000: Third place 2002: Fourth place 2004: Third place 2007: Semi-final 2008: Group stage 2010: Champions 2012: Semi-final
SEA Games *before 2001 1959: Third place 1961: Champions 1963: Fourth place 1967: Group stage 1969: Semi-final 1971: Runners-up 1973: Third place 1975: Runners-up 1977: Champions 1979: Champions 1981: Runners-up 1983: Third place 1985: Third place 1987: Runners-up 1991: Group stage 1993: Group stage 1995: Group stage 1995: Group stage 1997: Group stage 1999: Group stage
Midfielders Ariff Farhan D. Saarvindran Ridzuan Abdunloh Saiful Ridzuwan Amirul Hisyam K. Satish Gary Steven Robbat Azrif Nasrulhaq Nurridzuan Hassan Zaiful Abdul Hakim Arif Anwar Jafri Firdaus Chew Adam Nor Azlin
_______________________________________________________________ Competitive record AFC U-19 Championship 1959:Runners-up 1960:Runners-up 1961: Group stage 1962: Fourth place 1963: Group stage 1965: Third place 1966: Quarterfinal 1967: Group stage 1968: Runners-up 1969: Quarterfinal 1971: Quarterfinal 1975: Group stage 1976: Group stage 1977: Group stage 1978: Group stage 2004: Quarterfinal 2006: Group stage
AFF U19 Championship 2002: Group stage 2005: Runners-up 2006: Runners-up 2007: Runners-up 2008: Did not enter 2009: Fourth place 2010: Did not enter 2011: Third place 2012: Did not enter 2013: Group stage _______________________________________________________________ Honours
AFC U19 Championship
Runners-up (3): 1959, 1960, 1968 Third place (1): 1965
AFF U19 Championship
Runners-up (3): 2005, 2006, 2007 Third place (1): 2011
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Current squad 2014 AFC U16 Championship | 6th-20th Sept 2014
_______________________________________________________________ Competitive record
AFC U16 Championship 2004: Group stage 2008: Group stage 2014: TBD
AFF U16 Championship 2002: Fourth place 2005: Fourth place 2006: Did not enter 2007: Group stage 2008: Third place 2010: Did not enter 2011: Group stage 2012: Did not enter 2013: Champions
Have the feeling of 2010 all over again...Insya Allah...all the best to our boys.
2010...hehehe punyalah bengang aku time tu gopal panggil safee (sbb dia main agak pemalas time kt selangor) stiap hari komplen apehal dia panggil safee. Final frenly before aff dgn selangor kot masuk free..seri match tu xslp aku.perhh main xde jiwa tul time tu
The 2010 team are the golden generation as most of the players was from the 2009 gold medal team...and Safee peak at the right moment...it was definitely a one - off performance by him and unable to replicate it post 2010...
2010...hehehe punyalah bengang aku time tu gopal panggil safee (sbb dia main agak pemalas time kt selangor) stiap hari komplen apehal dia panggil safee. Final frenly before aff dgn selangor kot masuk free..seri match tu xslp aku.perhh main xde jiwa tul time tu
Sekali..tak sengaja menang. Hehehe
First match ptg kan?
Fuh kalau jadi mcm tu, confirm aku x question dh sapa dollah nk amik, bubuh irfan ghani pun aku x kisah dh pasni kalau dpt juara dgn skuad yg ada skrg.
Fuh kalau jadi mcm tu, confirm aku x question dh sapa dollah nk amik, bubuh irfan ghani pun aku x kisah dh pasni kalau dpt juara dgn skuad yg ada skrg.
We need beyond miracle with this current squad..keep the faith.
Kenapa the same set of players boleh deteriote so much ?
Apa yang beza ? Nt Coach ? Import ? Jdt ? Presiden fam ?
Detoriate starts 2011. Taktau apa jd. Gagal build from the winning momentum. Remember wcq? Kena sembelih 3-0 dgn singapork "rajagopal apa ko dah buat" first game aff 2012?
Dlm semua posisi yang wujud atas padang, ada dua posisi yg bg gopal untouchable. Kalau anyone can compile list of our first 11 since 2010 until 2014 ..maybe boleh dpt jwpn
1. Player tak on form 2. Nt coach, not brave and very limited with plan A.
Jdt pon wujud tahun 2013. Jauh sgt tu nak blame jdt waktu tu.
Despite that..rg manage to spur his team to semi. Home and away v thailand...same old spirit is there, during that tough and grueling time for their mental
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Detoriate starts 2011. Taktau apa jd. Gagal build from the winning momentum. Remember wcq? Kena sembelih 3-0 dgn singapork "rajagopal apa ko dah buat" first game aff 2012?
Dlm semua posisi yang wujud atas padang, ada dua posisi yg bg gopal untouchable. Kalau anyone can compile list of our first 11 since 2010 until 2014 ..maybe boleh dpt jwpn
1. Player tak on form 2. Nt coach, not brave and very limited with plan A.
Jdt pon wujud tahun 2013. Jauh sgt tu nak blame jdt waktu tu.
Despite that..rg manage to spur his team to semi. Home and away v thailand...same old spirit is there, during that tough and grueling time for their mental
ingat lagi masa safee main pelita 2011 tu. die punya stail main pun ade improve tapi masa tu geng2 Malaysia masih dibuai mimpi menang AFF.
bagi aku to put blame JDT x jugak mcm syazwan ckp la. jdt wujud pun 2013. tapi utk ckp JDT punca safee jadi suka duk bench, yg ni aku sokong. player duk bench mmg jadi lemau la.
ingat lagi masa safee main pelita 2011 tu. die punya stail main pun ade improve tapi masa tu geng2 Malaysia masih dibuai mimpi menang AFF.
bagi aku to put blame JDT x jugak mcm syazwan ckp la. jdt wujud pun 2013. tapi utk ckp JDT punca safee jadi suka duk bench, yg ni aku sokong. player duk bench mmg jadi lemau la.
Yup...more top local players will be a regular benchwarmer at JDT next season....good luck to Kunalan , Farizal , Junior & Chanturu.
Harap saham safee masih tinggi kat indon...then move back there after aff..
Its better for him to maintain his import status elsewhere than to stay in malaysia and compete wih imports....
Some time import players get more playing time not only because of their ability and physicality, but also due to their 'import status' .... Due to commercial , financial and professonal politics, the management would want the expensively selected imports to do well. So they will provide all the tools needed for that to happen at the expense of local players.
Its unfair to sweep the problem under the carpet by blaming local players mentality when they cant compete when it was an unfair competetion to begin with..
The odds were never in their favour.
I am all for competetion . But only if playing time is not the stake of the competition...because playing time is the tool needed to compete. Kalau yg menang je dapat tool tu, yg kalah akan terus kalah. That is not a healthy competition to me.
kita paksa pemain untuk solve dan improve masa 90 minutes atas padang.... Baru btol.
Sebab tu aku pelik bile ade orang nak dismiss lions dari liga kita....they can win an import infested league without imports. dgn team macam ni la yang patut kita bersaing dan berguru..
Ade saingan + guna kudrat sendiri = improve
Ade saingan + guna kudrat org lain yg setelkan = org lain la yg improve....
Anyway...aku hanya lay down my points to counter opinion yg cakap import > improve liga >improve our national team..... Its not that simple..
Tapi aku tak harap pon fam akan mansuhkan import balik walaupun aku yakin its the right thing to do . aku concede yg imports will not go anywhere soon .
We can take our time .
But sooner or later kita kena buat something to dance around the import situation. Continuously putting the blame solely on metality of our players will not improve our national team . Kita tak boleh apply Type A solution to Type B problem. Dah tahu kita ni Type B, apa kita nak buat ?
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rather than safee why not introduce other local talents as an import status towards asean country. The like of Mat yo,Farhan, Wak am, Kecik pun boleh je jadi imports. Target asean league je, dapat main untuk liga laos pun boleh je kot. Player singapura, macam Noh Alam Shah,Shahril Ishak berape tahun berkelana kat liga indon.
rather than safee why not introduce other local talents as an import status towards asean country. The like of Mat yo,Farhan, Wak am, Kecik pun boleh je jadi imports. Target asean league je, dapat main untuk liga laos pun boleh je kot. Player singapura, macam Noh Alam Shah,Shahril Ishak berape tahun berkelana kat liga indon.
Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
Budak2 Melayu Malaysia sekarang bukan budak2 Melayu zaman sebelum dan baru Merdeka. Budak2 Melayu sekarang lembik - tahu nak senang dengan minimum effort. Sangat senang di'bookie' kan - refer to nak senang dgn minimum effort.
Tak salahkan depa jugak - kalau dah ada employer yang nak bagi gaji besar sementara boleh memanaskan telur - memang lah itu arrangement yang ideal.
Buat apa nak pegi ke indon - jauh, nasik lemak sambal tak power, nak buat kuang ajar kat sana takut kena tetak dek Batak. Bila dah agak2 nak menetas sebelah telur tu - adjust la sikit bagi sama panas.
Budak2 Melayu Malaysia sekarang bukan budak2 Melayu zaman sebelum dan baru Merdeka. Budak2 Melayu sekarang lembik - tahu nak senang dengan minimum effort. Sangat senang di'bookie' kan - refer to nak senang dgn minimum effort.
Tak salahkan depa jugak - kalau dah ada employer yang nak bagi gaji besar sementara boleh memanaskan telur - memang lah itu arrangement yang ideal.
Buat apa nak pegi ke indon - jauh, nasik lemak sambal tak power, nak buat kuang ajar kat sana takut kena tetak dek Batak. Bila dah agak2 nak menetas sebelah telur tu - adjust la sikit bagi sama panas.
Majulah bookie untuk semua
kekekkeke hantar main kat indon karang tahu tahu kawen baru. Yang tak kawen lagi tak pelah. Tu belum main ngan liga thailand lagi tahu tahu balik bawak siplis. Joking je. Aside that baru tahu, one of the India Super league punya team partly own by anak amitabh bachan. Bila visit official league site dia sangat sangat impress. Adakah itu namanya privatisation in football?
Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
Tepuk sebelah tgn takkan berbunyi.....
The teams also have to get out of their comfort zone to offer that import spot to us...
As I said before import selection have high commercial, financial and political stake. People can lose their jobs if the selection turned out wrong.
safee sali fits that criteria when pelita jaya signed them after 2010.
The case for us need to overwhelming for it to happen.... Right now its pretty weak....
kekekkeke hantar main kat indon karang tahu tahu kawen baru. Yang tak kawen lagi tak pelah. Tu belum main ngan liga thailand lagi tahu tahu balik bawak siplis. Joking je. Aside that baru tahu, one of the India Super league punya team partly own by anak amitabh bachan. Bila visit official league site dia sangat sangat impress. Adakah itu namanya privatisation in football?
apa pun harapnya ada sinar2 bahagia dalam games vs. menyamar dan siam. aku dah beli tiket vs singapore + tix bas....tapi kalu both games awal dah lingkup, mcm xde makna jugak g spore
apa pun harapnya ada sinar2 bahagia dalam games vs. menyamar dan siam. aku dah beli tiket vs singapore + tix bas....tapi kalu both games awal dah lingkup, mcm xde makna jugak g spore
Kau koyakkan tixs tu , bakat , kemudian rebus. Tunggu depa balik di KLIA dan humban satu periuk air tixs rebus tu kat depa satu team.
Korea kalah world cup siap baling telur busuk kat players dan coach - itu WORLD CUP Dan terkebil kebil players dan coach tunduk tunduk kat fans.
Ni belum apa2 pun dah bagi latuk - dah dapat latuk - lingkup
"Situasi ini sama macam AFF 2010. Masa itu pun tak ada siapa menjangka kami boleh muncul juara"
"Saya rasa Malaysia bakal mengubah penampilan buruk jadi baik ketika kejohanan bermula"
"Mungkin persembahan kami menuju Piala AFF tidak begitu cemerlang, namun sekarang penampilan kami sudah jauh meningkat"
"Sebagai penyerang saya sedia dan tiada hal hendak berganding dengan siapa pun, namun saya merasa lebih sesuai berganding dengan Norsharul Idlan Talaha. Walau macam mana pun, terpulang kepada jurulatih kerana kami ada banyak pilihan"
Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
The teams also have to get out of their comfort zone to offer that import spot to us...
As I said before import selection have high commercial, financial and political stake. People can lose their jobs if the selection turned out wrong.
safee sali fits that criteria when pelita jaya signed them after 2010.
The case for us need to overwhelming for it to happen.... Right now its pretty weak....
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However, Dollah stressed that clubs and foreign players should not shoulder all the blame, telling FourFourTwo in May: "When every team signs and plays foreign players, it will definitely sideline the locals [and affect the national team]. To me, if you're a professional player, you have to fight for your place in the team. Whether you are a local player or not, if you can put up a fight, train well and perform, I will play you. "During my playing time, everyone including myself had to compete with foreigners. So, why can't today's players do it?"
rather than safee why not introduce other local talents as an import status towards asean country. The like of Mat yo,Farhan, Wak am, Kecik pun boleh je jadi imports. Target asean league je, dapat main untuk liga laos pun boleh je kot. Player singapura, macam Noh Alam Shah,Shahril Ishak berape tahun berkelana kat liga indon.
Bernard stanley bkn regular international pon gi trial sampai liga india. Syg xdpt cont contract waktu tu sbb format dorang tukar. Now dh habis dah lutut dia tu yang asyik bersembang kt tv
Yang lain kena tunggu kontrak sampai atas meja. Kalau tak, baik aku gi main felda ke pdrm ke...masyukkkkk
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"Situasi ini sama macam AFF 2010. Masa itu pun tak ada siapa menjangka kami boleh muncul juara"
"Saya rasa Malaysia bakal mengubah penampilan buruk jadi baik ketika kejohanan bermula"
"Mungkin persembahan kami menuju Piala AFF tidak begitu cemerlang, namun sekarang penampilan kami sudah jauh meningkat"
"Sebagai penyerang saya sedia dan tiada hal hendak berganding dengan siapa pun, namun saya merasa lebih sesuai berganding dengan Norsharul Idlan Talaha. Walau macam mana pun, terpulang kepada jurulatih kerana kami ada banyak pilihan"
Pak di timnas garulah di dadaku pun yakin sekali Aff tahun ni milik timnas
Bernard stanley bkn regular international pon gi trial sampai liga india. Syg xdpt cont contract waktu tu sbb format dorang tukar. Now dh habis dah lutut dia tu yang asyik bersembang kt tv
Yang lain kena tunggu kontrak sampai atas meja. Kalau tak, baik aku gi main felda ke pdrm ke...masyukkkkk
40 k 50k 80k sbln, duk malaysia, awek lawa, kete besar, nak apa lg. Haha cukuplah. Duk luar mana leh mkn nasi lemak, xleh jumpa awek.
gi Selangor atau Kelantan utk batu loncatan je.. ekekekek..
ingat player bola sepak ni pandai sgt ke.. lagi2 tang money management.
ak rasa team yg okay untuk msk selain jdt..kelantan, terengganu, pahang, selangor...sape youngster bru nak breakthru tu bleh lah ke perak..yg rasa nk tukar angin ak rasa sarawak pun okay.
Sejukkan sikit saturday morning dgn rumes sblm kita panas esok. Sah ke x lu org carik la sndr..nama pun rumours
Atm : titus james hehehe, shukor jusoh pdrm awe and shahurain Jdt2 : baihakki (confirmed by his personal instagram) yob: ricardo fuller and younis capt iraq (tp dgr mcm xdpt sbb salary tinggi sgt) , shahrazen dpmm brunei (juga top scorer masa ada import bersama manjou) selangor :azrif nazrulhaq and saiful ridzwan Jdt: amer saidin & fandi pahang: razman, fauzi, hafiz kamal stay, gary &saarvindran in
Sejukkan sikit saturday morning dgn rumes sblm kita panas esok. Sah ke x lu org carik la sndr..nama pun rumours
Atm : titus james hehehe, shukor jusoh pdrm awe and shahurain Jdt2 : baihakki (confirmed by his personal instagram) yob: ricardo fuller and younis capt iraq (tp dgr mcm xdpt sbb salary tinggi sgt) , shahrazen dpmm brunei (juga top scorer masa ada import bersama manjou) selangor :azrif nazrulhaq and saiful ridzwan Jdt: amer saidin & fandi pahang: razman, fauzi, hafiz kamal stay, gary &saarvindran in
Power Pahang, amik yg laju je, sesuai la dgn wing play
Usaha yang bagus, but the news article says that it was started in 2000. Ni sekarang dah 2014. Berapa ramai bakat baru yang telah dicungkil selama ni?
Nak cungkil apa benda Kalau ada bakat pun bukan ada sekor scout dari mana2 datang tengok. Scout adalah pada nama saja - collect gaji - dan peram telur juga
pada pendapat semua, if ad salary cap membantu tak?
Aku tertarik ngn topik ni. haha
What if FAM buat FFP plak mcm uefa. Sape exceed belanja lebih dari income..kena tolak points or...skuad registration - 5 pro players (nak topup kena tambah pemain piala presiden sahaja..or import registration tolak 2 orang)
Tp fam kena hire la audit firm or something. Pwc ke deloitte ke haha. Cmni mcm lg seronokk je mcm lagi syokkk je
What if FAM buat FFP plak mcm uefa. Sape exceed belanja lebih dari income..kena tolak points or...skuad registration - 5 pro players (nak topup kena tambah pemain piala presiden sahaja..or import registration tolak 2 orang) Tp fam kena hire la audit firm or something. Pwc ke deloitte ke haha. Cmni mcm lg seronokk je mcm lagi syokkk je
Jauh sgt tu bro dr pemikiran FAM.. Hehe. Jadual liga, isu tiket, pengadil pun FAM dh pening, inikan pulak benda mcm tu. Tolak campur bahagi darab x fully pandai lg, ni nk bg soalan algebra plak. Haha
Lgpun kita xde sistem bid players, so nk tau belanja lebih dr income mcmana.
Jauh sgt tu bro dr pemikiran FAM.. Hehe. Jadual liga, isu tiket, pengadil pun FAM dh pening, inikan pulak benda mcm tu. Tolak campur bahagi darab x fully pandai lg, ni nk bg soalan algebra plak. Haha
Lgpun kita xde sistem bid players, so nk tau belanja lebih dr income mcmana.
Kahkahkah betul gak tu. Dahla dr aku duk pening psl benda ni baik layan fm hahahahah
Thing about salary cap is, if you reaaallllly want to be fair to allllll team, the salary standard would be too low and not competetive and fair to the players...
Kalau conveniently propose standard salary cap just so yours and a few other team je boleh lawan jdt, then the fight for fairness is hypocritical..
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Fans kita kena tahan, tiket mahal, fans lain xde mslh. Tp FAM bangsat nk fight utk pasukan sendiri pun payah. Bangang sungguh. X fhm aku apa jenis manusia dlm fam ni. Rileks je fans myanmar penuhkan stadium
I think dollah should hv identify n deal with tis issue long b4 tis game. Player kte da terbiase ngan ref msia yg generally is lenient. Ble jumpe ref yg strict sket tu yg kena red card tu. Is it 3 red in 3 games? Shud hv insist only limit the yellows for tactical fouls. Haizz
bawak la masuk sorang passer dekat dalam midfield. main pump bola je. dapat dekat mahali nak gelecek semua orang dekat belah kanan. n tbh combo shukor-gary memang ticking bomb, pilih je mana satu nak dapat red dulu.
bawak la masuk sorang passer dekat dalam midfield. main pump bola je. dapat dekat mahali nak gelecek semua orang dekat belah kanan. n tbh combo shukor-gary memang ticking bomb, pilih je mana satu nak dapat red dulu.
Shukor adan dgn Alex not in the game....masuk safiq dgn sapa lagi main DM?
Tu la, ada defensive yg bagus x bawak. Mcm position right back, mahali sorg je dia bawak, pasni kalau injured ke kena gantung, alex dgn kunanlan dia nk makeshift. Pelik2
Chopot acah acah gengster puiiii bdk bdk ko main dah macam tyler blackett x nak pulak kau tiow. Main casual sangat.rasanya dollah turun aff xde gameplan kalau ada pun hit go je la
Kad merah? Oi 3 kad merah dlm 3 game straight..ni rekod boleh register kt FAM. tarikh bersejarah..first time in our football history.
Aku tgk first few tackle pon nak main sedap je tackle. Takkan la x belajar member dah kena last 2 games
Nak kata ref kat mesia too linient, gary tak main pun liga mesia. Walaupun dia memang mid yg bagus, tapi selalu tackle yg keras tak bertempat.
selain asian game kad remah legend dulu, kat ostolia lepas injured asyik kutib kad kuning je. Kad merah pun ada. Pendek kata, pengutip kad tegar dia ni.
Siam punya tikataka a joy to watch. Xinjiapor pun ...kene admitla diorg punya basic jauh lagi bagus dari malaysia. Tapi tengok game td pun siam pun mcm ada pressure sikit sbb tu gopoh bila control bola tapi still boleh adapt lagi gameplay xinjiapor. A draw this wednesday memang miracle la buat squad dollah. Next saturday baru langgar itu singapura
Siam punya tikataka a joy to watch. Xinjiapor pun ...kene admitla diorg punya basic jauh lagi bagus dari malaysia. Tapi tengok game td pun siam pun mcm ada pressure sikit sbb tu gopoh bila control bola tapi still boleh adapt lagi gameplay xinjiapor. A draw this wednesday memang miracle la buat squad dollah. Next saturday baru langgar itu singapura
Siam ni skuad muda, lihat lihat diorg main sedap tapi fan siam kata main mcm palat
i think regardless of spore-thai result jz now, it's basically a do or die mission against spore. against myanmar, it is safe to assume that myanmar will lose to spore anyways so nak xnak kena mng lwn spore. i think generally ms main ngan 10 org tu bole je main tapi xtau la kenape b4 gary kuar, the whole team langsung x compose. espcially shukor but i think others pn x jauh beza sgt.
BTW: takde sapa2 dgr ke commentator repeat nama full dollah salleh as pablo dollah saleh lps habis match? Hahahhaahahhahaha dez corckhill bkn tu org kuat astro arena gak ke...
1. shukor memang takleh adapt dgn level international sekang ni. 2. mahali, apek, afif main bagus... 3. we were much better when amri on the right... 4. Referee mesia too lenient . Byk kali dah player kita kene kad merah wether kat international or afc cup. Need to look into that.
There's one thing I kenot brain...kenapa Shukor dapat a lot of playing time whereas Indra Putra cuma dapat main sebagai sub in all the friendly matches (including this major one) during the last ten minutes or so?
This post has been edited by menj: Nov 24 2014, 02:28 AM
1. shukor memang takleh adapt dgn level international sekang ni. 2. mahali, apek, afif main bagus... 3. we were much better when amri on the right... 4. Referee mesia too lenient . Byk kali dah player kita kene kad merah wether kat international or afc cup. Need to look into that. ............................mat yo....................
There's one thing I kenot brain...kenapa Shukor dapat a lot of playing time whereas Indra Putra cuma dapat main sebagai sub in all the friendly matches (including this major one) during the last ten minutes or so?
Kenangan silam kot, ataupun cuba nk elak fans marah, combine muda, berpengalaman, kenangan lampau , sejarah silam.
Indra Piya tu boleh dikatakan panggilan utk cukupkan skuad je pun.
Right back mahali seorang. Ready la make shift kalau mahali injured.
Matyo kena ada partner kat dpn, sorang2 isolated plak dia. Terlalu negatif la plak kalau main 5 kat bawah sedangkan kita nk menang.
Skrg ni skuad yg ada sistem xde, gameplan xde, first eleven pun x pasti lg. Chemistry xyah ckp la..
Knowing thailand, for the first 25 minutea kita akan kene pinned down. So its important to hold fort first and weather the storm. Game sebenar hanya akan bemula lepas 25 minites..... Sebelum tu, ade 2 forward pon tak guna sebab bola tak akan sampai pon.
Shukor sebagai DM memang takleh cope tapi sebagai libero third centreback he maybe can still do it. ..aku nampak die sorang je boleh main libero dalam lineup yg kita ade. I definately tak pecaya kat muslim.
Based pade game vs singapore, thai memula nampak gempak , tapi lelama derang pon buntu juga. Masa tu la kita tukar formation to either push shukor ke midfield jadi 433, or sub shukur untuk masukkan sorang lagi striker...
Knowing thailand, for the first 25 minutea kita akan kene pinned down. So its important to hold fort first and weather the storm. Game sebenar hanya akan bemula lepas 25 minites..... Sebelum tu, ade 2 forward pon tak guna sebab bola tak akan sampai pon.
Shukor sebagai DM memang takleh cope tapi sebagai libero third centreback he maybe can still do it. ..aku nampak die sorang je boleh main libero dalam lineup yg kita ade. I definately tak pecaya kat muslim.
Based pade game vs singapore, thai memula nampak gempak , tapi lelama derang pon buntu juga. Masa tu la kita tukar formation to either push shukor ke midfield jadi 433, or sub shukur untuk masukkan sorang lagi striker...
Dengan Afif nye performance semalam... better stick with Afif and Fadhli... quite agree with Amri playing as RW... Maybe can switch Baddrol as LW?
Knowing thailand, for the first 25 minutea kita akan kene pinned down. So its important to hold fort first and weather the storm. Game sebenar hanya akan bemula lepas 25 minites..... Sebelum tu, ade 2 forward pon tak guna sebab bola tak akan sampai pon.
Shukor sebagai DM memang takleh cope tapi sebagai libero third centreback he maybe can still do it. ..aku nampak die sorang je boleh main libero dalam lineup yg kita ade. I definately tak pecaya kat muslim.
Based pade game vs singapore, thai memula nampak gempak , tapi lelama derang pon buntu juga. Masa tu la kita tukar formation to either push shukor ke midfield jadi 433, or sub shukur untuk masukkan sorang lagi striker...
Yup...Shukor as a libero with afif & fadhli besides him will be a good option...at this level he really looks out of place as a DM.
Kuna, attacking wise mmg dia takde pape sangat. Tapi defensive wise, dia sangat berguna. Semalam byk kali juga dia potong bola myanmar. Ada sekali tu, memang crucial gak potongan dia masa kena counter attack.
Next match, kita predict sapa pulak kena kad merah. hehehe...
Kuna, attacking wise mmg dia takde pape sangat. Tapi defensive wise, dia sangat berguna. Semalam byk kali juga dia potong bola myanmar. Ada sekali tu, memang crucial gak potongan dia masa kena counter attack.
Next match, kita predict sapa pulak kena kad merah. hehehe...
Layak atau tak ditentukan masa lawan singapore. Walau menang lawan thai, tapi kalah masa lawan singapore, still tak layak. Kalau kalah ngan thai, tapi menang singapore, kita still layak.
Pendek kata, hari sabtu ni adalah penentuan kpi pablo dollah. Dia boleh lupakan game lawan thai & concentrate cara utk kalahkan singapore dengan syarat, myanmar tak buat kejutan dgn kalahkan singapore lusa.
This post has been edited by mie_taiping: Nov 24 2014, 11:51 AM
Kuna, attacking wise mmg dia takde pape sangat. Tapi defensive wise, dia sangat berguna. Semalam byk kali juga dia potong bola myanmar. Ada sekali tu, memang crucial gak potongan dia masa kena counter attack.
Next match, kita predict sapa pulak kena kad merah. hehehe...
Safiq.
This post has been edited by sam.hajime: Nov 24 2014, 02:46 PM
So..fandi dan amer sah sertai jdt dari harimau muda.
Ok fair to fandi dia mungkin lebih byk peluang main compared to amer...so amer ni rasa2 boleh dislodged ke centreback kebangsaan yg lain? Apa pendapat kwn2? mungkin kah faktor marcos atau fadhli shas menjadi punca amer tak dapat main nanti...? Atau salah coach jgk?
Apa2pun tahniah. Masyukkkk
Smentara itu difahamkan 2 pemain remaja kedah dah gi trial ke kelab div 2 thai. Sure it is not glamour as it looks. (before this ramai gak player liga premier yg dah main div 2 thailand)
This post has been edited by syazwan: Nov 24 2014, 03:45 PM
So..fandi dan amer sah sertai jdt dari harimau muda.
Ok fair to fandi dia mungkin lebih byk peluang main compared to amer...so amer ni rasa2 boleh dislodged ke centreback kebangsaan yg lain? Apa pendapat kwn2? mungkin kah faktor marcos atau fadhli shas menjadi punca amer tak dapat main nanti...? Atau salah coach jgk?
Apa2pun tahniah. Masyukkkk
Smentara itu difahamkan 2 pemain remaja kedah dah gi trial ke kelab div 2 thai. Sure it is not glamour as it looks. (before this ramai gak player liga premier yg dah main div 2 thailand)
Perhaps comparing to the previous 2010 & 2012 squad - 2014 is not as good..I really hope that our boys have the desire to prove everyone wrong & go all the way...
got 4 posts from last night hidden already. imagine if ppl call our team malayb*b*...how? sure all parangs come out la, want go burn their house la.
just banter .just like we called them anjing including indon and indon call us maling or malon or whatever...no need to butthurt...but lots of immature SG over here..even blocking fans from entering the country...very matured indeed...
just banter .just like we called them anjing including indon and indon call us maling or malon or whatever...no need to butthurt...but lots of immature SG over here..even blocking fans from entering the country...very matured indeed...
haha, yea but try to keep it as clean as possible. call english teams funny names also can kena...zzz. this one here not kopitiam anyway
Perhaps comparing to the previous 2010 & 2012 squad - 2014 is not as good..I really hope that our boys have the desire to prove everyone wrong & go all the way...
not much preparation as I see it compared to Raja's team ...if it was Raja's team I 'm sure we can get a draw out of the Thailand match but it will be interesting to see what happens..2 more days...
haha, yea but try to keep it as clean as possible. call english teams funny names also can kena...zzz. this one here not kopitiam anyway
I was dissapointed with that kopitiam thread..was keen on experiencing the game with fellow Malaysians instead of just watching it by myself instead it turned into a racial spat between two posters..Zzzzzzzzz...
I was dissapointed with that kopitiam thread..was keen on experiencing the game with fellow Malaysians instead of just watching it by myself instead it turned into a racial spat between two posters..Zzzzzzzzz...
ya, see sure happen. so best to avoid the same thing happening here la.
Pablo dollah hinted at keeping afif instead of Muslim. Safee also probably will be paired with Matyo, and Wak Am playing on the right wing. No news about Shukor Adan though.
Pablo dollah hinted at keeping afif instead of Muslim. Safee also probably will be paired with Matyo, and Wak Am playing on the right wing. No news about Shukor Adan though.
Park the bus..park the bus till we die.Pastu counter kat mat yo.Biar dia buat keje,gol x gol belakang citer as long as we avoid defeat. Seriusly lawan ngan siam ni jangan lah main pacey sangat risau betul saya. Nanti dah pancit,siam tikitakuk time tu confirm stress pastu tak boleh adapt pressure. Kalau tengok game siam-xinjiapo,kita boleh je grab 1 point,tapi instead of 1 point awat tak grab je 3 point nanti boleh play safe ngan xinjiapor nanti.
Park the bus..park the bus till we die.Pastu counter kat mat yo.Biar dia buat keje,gol x gol belakang citer as long as we avoid defeat. Seriusly lawan ngan siam ni jangan lah main pacey sangat risau betul saya. Nanti dah pancit,siam tikitakuk time tu confirm stress pastu tak boleh adapt pressure. Kalau tengok game siam-xinjiapo,kita boleh je grab 1 point,tapi instead of 1 point awat tak grab je 3 point nanti boleh play safe ngan xinjiapor nanti.
Bila aku tgk skuad skang, aku kesian kat Dollah. Skuad kita brada di status yg sungguh2 nazak. Bila kita terpaksa panggil Indra dan Shukor Adan main balik. Bila kita terpaksa pakai striker2 yang hanya main sebagai sub di kelab masing2. Bila kita terpaksa recycle hero2 lama cam Apek, Mat Yo, Chopot, Mahali. Bila tiada youth players. Ini semua sifir untuk di rogol beramai2 di AFF nanti.
Rajagopal dulu bukan terer mana pon. Tapi dia inherit player2 muda yang telah excellently brought up by Sekolah Sukan Bukit Jalil. Chemistry dan technical skills diaorang mantap. Zaman tu, kalau kita letak Moyes jadi coach Malaysia pon kita boleh menang. Tapi era tu dah over. Batch Apek dan kawan2 dah pass their peak bro.
Jadi mana barisan pelapis kita? Mana budak2 yang kita hantar pergi Slovakia? Takan dalam ramai2 budak2 Harmau Muda A yg main kat Queensland, Gary Steven Robat sorang jer yg layak main senior team?
Jadi apakah yang telah terjadi? Di manakah silapnya? ____________________________ Punca Masalah
PERTAMA. Somewhere along the path, ada orang yang telah mengkelingkan youth sytem kita. Dulu dah elok2 semua dok kat SS Bukit Jalil, pastu tetiba diaorang buat skuad satu lagi kat SS Bandar Penawar plak (skang dah tukar nama jadi SS TMJ). Apsal ada sampai dua sekolah? Pastu tetiba pum pam buat Akademi Mokhtar Dahari plak. Sudah. Ni apa plak fungsi dia?
Barca, ManU etc semuanya pakai satu akademi je cukup. Kita sampai bersepah2 Sekolah Sukan dan akademi bagai ni, dah sungguh bercelaru nampaknya. Cemana diaorang tentukan budak2 yg berpotensi pergi mana satu? Belum kira lagi budak2 drp sekolah2 projek negeri2 satu Malaysia. Ade ke org yg memantau prestasi diaorang dan quality coaching yang diaorang terima drp sekolah2 tersebut? Gilos.
Last2 youth team FAM nak main tournament pon kene tumpang kasih Frenz. Nak harap diaorng buat friendly, mmg berkulat lah. Frenz United tu private youth teams kot. Cemana management dan marketing diaorang lagi mantab ni? Terima kasih Frenz United. Korang penyelamat negara!
Jadi tak heranlah bila batch2 lepas chopot/apek/aidil etc, semua kualiti dah macam tahi. Tak layak naik pangkat main senior team. Tamil Arasu for example. Wan Zack sekor je boleh harap, itu pon karrier dia telah over. Lutut dia dah abis. Babai wan zek forever.
Dulu Umno Melbourne Cup boleh import. Ada mat salleh lah, africa lah. Ni striker power Singapore tapau aku. Sial lah.
KEDUA. Dasar player import Liga Super. Korang jgn buat2 lupa, masa kita menang Suzuki Cup 2010 tu, TIADA SORANG PON PLAYER IMPORT dlm liga kita. Masa tu player import kene banned. Sbb FAM takde duit kot. Jadi tetiba masa tu, mana2 team yang berjaya kumpul player2 tempatan yg power (kelantan, terengganu) atau pun mempunyai youth team yg power (NSembilan champ SUKMA 2004), maka team tu yg dominated liga kita.
Pastu tetiba adalh team negeri ataupun kerabat2 durjana mana ntah yang nak kejayaan mee segera macam dahulu kala. Jadi diaorng telah mengarahkan FAM utk bukak balik utk player import. Jadi kembalilah kita kepada sistem tahi najis yg asal, iaitu semua team akan import striker yg power, pastu ambiklah player2 tempatan utk jadi pelakon tambahan ataupun pak pacak.
Jadi kita telah berhijrah drp iklim bolasepak di mana semua striker2 tempatan boleh main full game, kepada hanya bermain pada 5 minit terakhir. What the najis.
Aku tak setuju dengan apa dia cakap pasal sekolah-sekolah sukan. The more is the better actually. In fact sepatutnya kita ada satu sekolah sukan untuk setiap daerah, bukannya di setiap negeri sahaja. A bigger pool of talent could be unearthed. Tapi yang dia cakap tu pasal import memang betullah. Aku daripada awal lagi tak berapa setuju kita nak kena ada import dalam liga.
Aku tak setuju dengan apa dia cakap pasal sekolah-sekolah sukan. The more is the better actually. In fact sepatutnya kita ada satu sekolah sukan untuk setiap daerah, bukannya di setiap negeri sahaja. A bigger pool of talent could be unearthed. Tapi yang dia cakap tu pasal import memang betullah. Aku daripada awal lagi tak berapa setuju kita nak kena ada import dalam liga.
the more is better if managed professionally and handled accordingly tapi masalahnya kat sini nanti jadi geng pulak, geng kerabat, geng akademi dan geng FAM cam BAM lah gitu...problem is state fa's should have their own youth development system, we just rely on FAM so our pool talent is extremely small. Has playing in Queensland actually helped us? not really ...these stints dont work because its the same mentality all around you take the kampung and put them in a foreign league but they're still the same kampung because they mingle among themselves..to improve players need to move abroad and be by themselves in a professional set up but nobody wants to get out of their comfort zone so Malaysian football shall remain ASEAN level...semua happy dgn nasi lemak dan roti canai..
aku tak setuju pasal import player. bagi aku idea import player bagus. masalah dia sebenarnya dekat player kita je.
xde import player, level player kita takat tu jela. macam main dengan orang sama level dengan kita. bak kata budak /k/ jaguh kampung. main luar kampung kelam kabut.
tapi dengan ada import player, kenapa diorang (striker local terutamanya) tak main? senang, sebab diorang tak sama level dengan awang import. susah camne pun nak terima, tu la fakta dia. maksud dia time training dengan club waktu league adalah isu dengan coach. coach tak puas hati ke, ataupun usaha diorang tak cukup bagus nak convinced kan coach.
kelab tak suka dengan import, terminate je kontrak diorang. senang. tapi buat tengok dekat player local, konfirm keluar dekat headline; "Kesian anak bini saya" atau yang sewaktu dengannya. Berani coach buat?
aku admit aku tak la tengok local football sangat, ada time aku leh tengok, aku tengok. nak tengok kat stadium walaupun betul betul sebelah rumah aku je (stadium shah alam) aku xmampu pergi sebab hal hal peribadi. tapi apa aku tengok ada si boroi main untuk jdt tapi set skill dia power. sekarang tak tau pegi mana.
dollah tak salah. dia ambik player mana dia nampak okay je. sebab tu amri yahyah main lagi walhal aku rasa dia dah lama lepas peak. #9 boleh la, sebab finishing ada lagi, nak main winger / 90 minit memang aku rasa tak.
so masalah dia sekarang ni, player sendiri yang lagi rela duduk dekat bench, takde match fitness (kalau malaysia ada league u-18, u-21 reserve league ke takpe la jugak) pastu expect untuk national call up. gila!
coach club (FA) yang lagi pentingkan jawatan dia (dan nama) daripada ambik player local (takut kena sambar kemudian hari dengan club lain kot) dan jadikan dia super hero kepada club sendiri. bukan awang import.
the more is better if managed professionally and handled accordingly tapi masalahnya kat sini nanti jadi geng pulak, geng kerabat, geng akademi dan geng FAM cam BAM lah gitu...problem is state fa's should have their own youth development system, we just rely on FAM so our pool talent is extremely small. Has playing in Queensland actually helped us? not really ...these stints dont work because its the same mentality all around you take the kampung and put them in a foreign league but they're still the same kampung because they mingle among themselves..to improve players need to move abroad and be by themselves in a professional set up but nobody wants to get out of their comfort zone so Malaysian football shall remain ASEAN level...semua happy dgn nasi lemak dan roti canai..
Pergi sorang2 pon achieved zero result jugak sebelum ni..... Rember akmal rizal, titus james, stanley bernard , fazli saari , juzaili sameon?... ..last last orang kampung macam shukor adan, amri yahya dan inderaputra gak jadi legend.....
Lebih baik hantar satu kumpulan bagi aku....at least derang learn how to know, trust, solve problem and depend on each other as a team...
Aku rasa antar youth satu team ke luar adelah lebih baik for our football in the long run.....daripada player pergi sorang2....
And sama macam menj, kelakar plak bile dgr org cakap terlampau banyak sekolah sukan adelah satu masalah......
On the contrary, aku rasa model bukir jalil , ss tmj dan ss gambang patut ditambah lagi ke seluruh malaysia macam kj dok plan tu. ....
Top of the cream akan still pergi ke gambang. Tapi payung kat bawah kene besar...
Nak menyelesaikan masalah ni is nothing more than mentality.. kogi najmi tu dah tunjuk dah skill set lebih kurang je for youth age.
Patut sports school from now dah push them mentally bukan physically and technical sahaja. Jgn terlalu selesa bermain sebelah ahseng abu maniam saja. (and of coz parents encouragement)...u got to admit it is not easy. Tp pelik jgk..as a footballer u shud know that this is not a weak sports. Walhal ramai jgk rakyat malaysia yg kerja sorang2 kt negara org (mentally challenging..tp masih mampu carik nasik dan tidur)
Wenger pon pernah ckp yang membezakan player remaja pd end of their youth cap is mentality. How far they want..how far they are willing to push
Kalau tak mampu acknowledge masalah ni sampai bila kita tak ke mana.
Sbb tu harini kita masih bangga dgn nicol ann david sorang je. Pdhal umur setahun jagung dia dah gi training kt europe sengsorang bwk beg (player squash byk mcmni..gi europe sengsorg..carik hotel flight sendir since youth age)
This post has been edited by syazwan: Nov 25 2014, 08:21 AM
aku tak setuju pasal import player. bagi aku idea import player bagus. masalah dia sebenarnya dekat player kita je.
xde import player, level player kita takat tu jela. macam main dengan orang sama level dengan kita. bak kata budak /k/ jaguh kampung. main luar kampung kelam kabut.
tapi dengan ada import player, kenapa diorang (striker local terutamanya) tak main? senang, sebab diorang tak sama level dengan awang import. susah camne pun nak terima, tu la fakta dia. maksud dia time training dengan club waktu league adalah isu dengan coach. coach tak puas hati ke, ataupun usaha diorang tak cukup bagus nak convinced kan coach.
kelab tak suka dengan import, terminate je kontrak diorang. senang. tapi buat tengok dekat player local, konfirm keluar dekat headline; "Kesian anak bini saya" atau yang sewaktu dengannya. Berani coach buat?
aku admit aku tak la tengok local football sangat, ada time aku leh tengok, aku tengok. nak tengok kat stadium walaupun betul betul sebelah rumah aku je (stadium shah alam) aku xmampu pergi sebab hal hal peribadi. tapi apa aku tengok ada si boroi main untuk jdt tapi set skill dia power. sekarang tak tau pegi mana.
dollah tak salah. dia ambik player mana dia nampak okay je. sebab tu amri yahyah main lagi walhal aku rasa dia dah lama lepas peak. #9 boleh la, sebab finishing ada lagi, nak main winger / 90 minit memang aku rasa tak.
so masalah dia sekarang ni, player sendiri yang lagi rela duduk dekat bench, takde match fitness (kalau malaysia ada league u-18, u-21 reserve league ke takpe la jugak) pastu expect untuk national call up. gila!
coach club (FA) yang lagi pentingkan jawatan dia (dan nama) daripada ambik player local (takut kena sambar kemudian hari dengan club lain kot) dan jadikan dia super hero kepada club sendiri. bukan awang import.
1. Kelab main terminate je kontrak player suka hati tetap salah. Baik local atau import. Apa player import takde anak bini ?
2. By system, pemain local will never be better than import. Kalau local player made an improvement, macam hadi yahya, safee sali, and mat yo did previously masa zaman takde import, the pressure in on the club to raise the bar and find better import out there to counter improvement atau usaha yg local player buat... Its a moving goal post system.... Macam marathon yg finishing line die bergerak je tak habis-habis.....
3. Manade local player duk kak bench dan harap national team call up. ....tu bukan satu masalah... Derang just follow laluan rezeki memasing.....Problem sekarang coach yg tak ade pilihan dan terpaksa panggil player walaupun derang duk kat bench...something is wrong there when that happens...
4. Sebenarnye on pure footballing sense , takde masalah pon kalau local yg tak bagus terpaksa give way to imports. Dah tak bagus , bagi je la yg bagus main. Ye tak ? Liga kita akan lagi kuat dan gempak kalau pemain dipilih 100% atas football attributes dan bukan nationality.
Bagi aku keje pemain bola ni dah same dgn pekerja kontrak, maid or operator pengeluaran. Dah org kita tak minat nak buat, baik bagi je kat org luar yg lagi minat dan skillfull. ...org kita pon takde masalah nak sokong sehati sejiwa team yang 100% pemain pemain luar .
Masalah sekaran fifa yg ngada2 nak buat system bola kuno berdasarkan nationality. Asia cup la. World cup la. Pastu bila team kita kalah , mulala keluar nama chinaun la moktar dahari la.... tu yang boring tu..zaman tu boleyla....bukan nye ade player import pon...
Kalau btol this is just temporary hiccup ,dan lelama after some time in near future , dgn adenye pemain import, national team kita akan jadi power sebab kita dah tak main sesama sendiri, tak apa. I am all for it.
Tapi sejak kita ade import balik ni, result national team makin teruk. The grim truth is, aku tak nampak how things will improve kalau kekal je camni...
5. Aku suka cara di mana kita tetap main lawan org luar tetapi still maintain playing time. Macam yg lions sedang buat sekang ni. That way, kita push pemain local untuk take the challenge on the pitch, where it matters, daripada spiraling downwards on the bench..
This post has been edited by aressandro10: Nov 25 2014, 10:56 AM
Kalau xda import, liga xmeriah. Berapa kerat local player yang nak main untuk kelab/ negeri selain jdt, kelantan, lahang and maybe selangor? Team macam sabah and sarawak memang xboleh compete sebab financial limitation. + faktor geografi. Even sekarang pun. Local players yang main untuk sarawak mostly rejects dari team semenanjung.
Nak menyelesaikan masalah ni is nothing more than mentality.. kogi najmi tu dah tunjuk dah skill set lebih kurang je for youth age.
Patut sports school from now dah push them mentally bukan physically and technical sahaja. Jgn terlalu selesa bermain sebelah ahseng abu maniam saja. (and of coz parents encouragement)...u got to admit it is not easy. Tp pelik jgk..as a footballer u shud know that this is not a weak sports. Walhal ramai jgk rakyat malaysia yg kerja sorang2 kt negara org (mentally challenging..tp masih mampu carik nasik dan tidur)
Wenger pon pernah ckp yang membezakan player remaja pd end of their youth cap is mentality. How far they want..how far they are willing to push
Kalau tak mampu acknowledge masalah ni sampai bila kita tak ke mana.
Sbb tu harini kita masih bangga dgn nicol ann david sorang je. Pdhal umur setahun jagung dia dah gi training kt europe sengsorang bwk beg (player squash byk mcmni..gi europe sengsorg..carik hotel flight sendir since youth age)
Depa bukan Melayu bro. Melayu mana ada nak bersusah dulu Nak senang jer
Park the bus..park the bus till we die.Pastu counter kat mat yo.Biar dia buat keje,gol x gol belakang citer as long as we avoid defeat. Seriusly lawan ngan siam ni jangan lah main pacey sangat risau betul saya. Nanti dah pancit,siam tikitakuk time tu confirm stress pastu tak boleh adapt pressure. Kalau tengok game siam-xinjiapo,kita boleh je grab 1 point,tapi instead of 1 point awat tak grab je 3 point nanti boleh play safe ngan xinjiapor nanti.
If DS really implement the 'park the bus' tactic then our players need to be very disciplined which a thing that we fear the most....2 layers of 4 & Khairul Fahmi need to be at is very best as we would expect that Thailand will have a lot of shots on target...absorb the pressure and hit them on the counter...Matyo will be the key with support from 2 speedy wingers.. keep the faith.
Nak menyelesaikan masalah ni is nothing more than mentality.. kogi najmi tu dah tunjuk dah skill set lebih kurang je for youth age.
Patut sports school from now dah push them mentally bukan physically and technical sahaja. Jgn terlalu selesa bermain sebelah ahseng abu maniam saja. (and of coz parents encouragement)...u got to admit it is not easy. Tp pelik jgk..as a footballer u shud know that this is not a weak sports. Walhal ramai jgk rakyat malaysia yg kerja sorang2 kt negara org (mentally challenging..tp masih mampu carik nasik dan tidur)
Wenger pon pernah ckp yang membezakan player remaja pd end of their youth cap is mentality. How far they want..how far they are willing to push
Kalau tak mampu acknowledge masalah ni sampai bila kita tak ke mana.
Sbb tu harini kita masih bangga dgn nicol ann david sorang je. Pdhal umur setahun jagung dia dah gi training kt europe sengsorang bwk beg (player squash byk mcmni..gi europe sengsorg..carik hotel flight sendir since youth age)
Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.
Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.
Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.
Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.
Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.
Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.
Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.
Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.
Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.
Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.
Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.
Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.
Yg ni aku sangat setuju. Terutamanya on sending our young boys abroad as a team together. Yg ni pun aku rasa adalah revised decision dari pihak FAM, memandangkan batch sebelum ni yg dihantar ke luar secara solo tak membuahkan hasil sangat. Btw dulu akmal rizal dihantar berdua bersama Juzaili, jadi not exactly the case of him fending for himself alone masa kat France.
Tapi memang betul la, Amri Yahya dan Indra Putra ni sebaya dengan Akmal Rizal, tapi dari segi longevity of career, diorang lagi lama main ( mungkin injury factors menyumbang, menyebabkan akmal has to cut his career short ). Tapi at his peak of performance, Akmal lagi berbisa dari segi penyudah kalau nak dibandingkan dgn amri yahya sebagai contoh...
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Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.
Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.
Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.
Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.
Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.
Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.
And we shud reaping the benefit NOW. Termasuk muslim ahmad..hanya 3 org je produk harimau muda yg main aff kalini. Is this u called a success? Harimau muda projek dah almost 7-8thn tu. Marah kj kalau projek dia 7-8thn end up mcmni jgk.
Im not saying we shud stop harimau Muda. NO. It is just that past 2 years tak nampak apa pon progress bebudak hantar luar ni..takat tu lagi. (sama je lah result nya dgn hantar sorang dua pergi oversea )
Investing millions tp dpt la seorang dua level sukan sea or aff and end up beraksi dalam liga M adalah investment gagal. Period.
Kena revise. Kenapa mentaliti takde pon player berebut nak main aussie a league professionally? apa tak kena? Mcmana team ni yg dulunya fokus OLIMPIK...now cukup la menang sea games. Now dpt main s league pon dah suka..atau negeri sebelahnya. Hahaha.Mcmana mindset ni boleh berubah?
Kalau nak acknowledge yea yea improvement menang sea games and aff...so where we go from there? Still struggling w the likes of thai singapore myanmmar aint pretty at all. Seriously all sea teams are still struggling to break the asian barrier.
Level AFF.
Yea sure kita perlukan improvement sambil nak tunggu org berubah mentaliti...dah 4 tahun tunggu since last menang. National team pon x berubah.
kalau menang tahun ni syukur laaa. Tp bkn la sekadar level next year lwn dgn indon terpaksa draw lg...sigh..regress sungguh expectation kita.
Perhaps my bar is different than the rest. For me, i shud seeing these boys are atleast challenging the likes of qatar, bahrain, japan, oz, iran, saudi and so on.
And comparison akmal and titus is very unfair.
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Takkan hantar 10, 10 orang berjaya. Aku pon x expect hantar 25 orang player ..25 player berjaya.. Anak fandi yg dh main oversea pon belum tentu berjaya.
gael kakuta yg chelsea hijack smp almost kena transfer ban pon dah boleh kira fail wonderkid. And cuba bacalah sendiri comment2 coaches yg mengatakan kenapa dia fail it is all over the internet. Pdhal potensi dia antara paling besar.
Akmal rizal becomes a legend not because his short stint in europe. (it was cut short because of his continuous injury). Dia jd taraf legend coz his contribution to the national team. Simple. I still do remember his lovely goal vs china away. We drew 1-1. Sharp gila dia dulu. Letak akmal rizal dgn safee time peak pon aku still pilih akmal.
Nazmi pon sampai harini masih misteri sbb sbnr dia balik. X dpt makan nasi ke? Xcukup duit ke? Atau agent yg scam? Or rindu awek?
Wud u say teerasil is a fail example if let say his almeria stint will end within 1 season? Hmm
Selagi mentaliti nak main kampung..tak apalahh aku dah cukup bagus dari hadi yahya..aku dah cukup lg bagus dr ashari..aku dah cukup lg bagus dr sharom kalam...CUKUP la dpt beli kereta besar ni..cash pulak tu...
Selagi tu lah kita just mengharapkan taktik2 terpaksa squeeze out points here and there utk advance....
Ironically
Harimau B main liga S dgn liga byk import for whole season jgk...brp byk talent kita dpt squeeze out?
Harimau A yg main S league sblm ni pon talent2 yg sama gak. Mahali wanzack fadhlishas izham kecik and so on...yg lain mcmtu gak
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Harimau Muda lebih byk success bila main dlm negara je ketika rajagobal coach siap boleh bawak jadi juara liga perdana. Lepas tu main luar, banyak jatuh pulak.
Aku lebih minat result frenz united. Masanya akan tiba bila first batch frenz ni masuk pasaran ataupun frenz sendiri masuk liga malaysia. Aku jangkakan, diorang ni akan lebih menyinar dari Najmuddin & Kogi.
Harimau Muda lebih byk success bila main dlm negara je ketika rajagobal coach siap boleh bawak jadi juara liga perdana. Lepas tu main luar, banyak jatuh pulak.
Aku lebih minat result frenz united. Masanya akan tiba bila first batch frenz ni masuk pasaran ataupun frenz sendiri masuk liga malaysia. Aku jangkakan, diorang ni akan lebih menyinar dari Najmuddin & Kogi.
Dan kemudian di sapu bersih oleh JDT untuk memanaskan leather recaro
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Dan kemudian di sapu bersih oleh JDT untuk memanaskan leather recaro
Hehehe...
JDT sepatutnya dah boleh start groom player sendiri. Sebagai permulaan, diorang boleh beli (sapu bersih lagi) bebudak Harimau muda c masuk akademi jdt. Bawak diorang merantau & dilatih coach luar. Ala, apa guna sain partnership ngan kelab luar, kalau takleh nak sparing ngan youth diorang.
JDT sepatutnya dah boleh start groom player sendiri. Sebagai permulaan, diorang boleh beli (sapu bersih lagi) bebudak Harimau muda c masuk akademi jdt. Bawak diorang merantau & dilatih coach luar. Ala, apa guna sain partnership ngan kelab luar, kalau takleh nak sparing ngan youth diorang.
Instead of hmc... Baik dia gi hantar bebudak youth dia sendiri gi merantau...
Ini Jawapan TMJ Berkenaan dakwaan kononnya, "JDT adalah punca kejatuhan bola sepak Malaysia" dan "JDT punca Liga M hadapi masalah"..
Kredit Johor Southern Tigers
Dear TMJ, you are totally missing the point. It's not about the competition and the big wages that true fans of the league are complaining about.
Rather, it's what happens to the players AFTER you tempt them to your club with big wages and Recaro seats. Lepas beli, ada pakai tak? Noooooooooooo....they sit on the bench and warm their balls. Hang bayaq depa untuk main bola sepak ka, atau untuk peram teloq depa?
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Dear TMJ, you are totally missing the point. It's not about the competition and the big wages that true fans of the league are complaining about.
Rather, it's what happens to the players AFTER you tempt them to your club with big wages and Recaro seats. Lepas beli, ada pakai tak? Noooooooooooo....they sit on the bench and warm their balls. Hang bayaq depa untuk main bola sepak ka, atau untuk peram teloq depa?
Dear TMJ, you are totally missing the point. It's not about the competition and the big wages that true fans of the league are complaining about.
Rather, it's what happens to the players AFTER you tempt them to your club with big wages and Recaro seats. Lepas beli, ada pakai tak? Noooooooooooo....they sit on the bench and warm their balls. Hang bayaq depa untuk main bola sepak ka, atau untuk peram teloq depa?
Huih.... Fan JDT marah ni... Dierang kate semua ni utk team depth
Dear TMJ, you are totally missing the point. It's not about the competition and the big wages that true fans of the league are complaining about.
Rather, it's what happens to the players AFTER you tempt them to your club with big wages and Recaro seats. Lepas beli, ada pakai tak? Noooooooooooo....they sit on the bench and warm their balls. Hang bayaq depa untuk main bola sepak ka, atau untuk peram teloq depa?
Peminat lalang jdt berkata mereka tak perform sebab tu kena duduk di bangku recaro
If DS really implement the 'park the bus' tactic then our players need to be very disciplined which a thing that we fear the most....2 layers of 4 & Khairul Fahmi need to be at is very best as we would expect that Thailand will have a lot of shots on target...absorb the pressure and hit them on the counter...Matyo will be the key with support from 2 speedy wingers.. keep the faith.
QUOTE(me @ me and me,Nov 25 2014, 04:25 PM)
Peminat lalang jdt berkata mereka tak perform sebab tu kena duduk di bangku recaro Tmj punya duit suka hati dia lah kata lalang jdt
Supply and demand beb...at the end of the day, players are trying to make a living...kalau jdt nak bayar aku 80k sebulan tax free setakat duduk seat recaro, why not? daripada main team lain gaji rm6k..
Most people will put priority of feeding themselves over others...
Yg ni aku sangat setuju. Terutamanya on sending our young boys abroad as a team together. Yg ni pun aku rasa adalah revised decision dari pihak FAM, memandangkan batch sebelum ni yg dihantar ke luar secara solo tak membuahkan hasil sangat. Btw dulu akmal rizal dihantar berdua bersama Juzaili, jadi not exactly the case of him fending for himself alone masa kat France.
Tapi memang betul la, Amri Yahya dan Indra Putra ni sebaya dengan Akmal Rizal, tapi dari segi longevity of career, diorang lagi lama main ( mungkin injury factors menyumbang, menyebabkan akmal has to cut his career short ). Tapi at his peak of performance, Akmal lagi berbisa dari segi penyudah kalau nak dibandingkan dgn amri yahya sebagai contoh...
Akmal Rizal is one those rare gifted player that we have...but perhaps due to injury he's unable to sustain his performance...I fear the worst for our current talented players such as Nazmi & Wan Zack Haikal...
Akmal Rizal is one those rare gifted player that we have...but perhaps due to injury he's unable to sustain his performance...I fear the worst for our current talented players such as Nazmi & Wan Zack Haikal...
Wan Z kaki kaca beb. Nazmi sjk masuk selangor...merudum...Rozaimi dah baik injury blom?
syok ye bang. nak lagi syok pegi layan goal.com indo. wkwkwkwkwk
Hahaha kk sorry la x tahan lak nak gelak. Mana poster indon lescial haritu? Lel
But to be fair to real indon fans...they did not deserve this. One of the most passionate fans kt asia maybe. Crazy! Pssi sakit tenat sbb byk taiko dlm tu yg xleh disentuh. Malaysia pon baik sikit je. Tu pon org kita masih salam cium tangan pipi smua
Nampak tak betapa bezanya QUANTITY winning aff doesnt matter (singapore, most aff champion) but quality is(thai)
What i mean is as we know quality thailand yg last 15 years or so yg regularly main2 dgn big names kt asia lg besar impak dia. Dlu thai saing2 big teams bwh skit je. Dgn oz pon boleh bg saingan. sampai sekarang org masih cuak dgn thai. tak kira la dia bwk team remaja ke terkuat ke..
Kita? Buat team remaja utk menang sea games and aff je ke target kita? Takdo sapo kecut teloq jackkkk
Still dont know yet, there is chances Pinoy top group but still meet Thailand. This is still possible if Thai loose and Singapore Loose to Malaysia....
Best sangat ke padang sintetik singapore? Stadium nasional baru diorang, yang pakai time aff ni pun akan dicabut rumputnya dan ditukar ke sintetik punya.
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QUOTE(mie_taiping @ Nov 26 2014, 03:20 AM)
Best sangat ke padang sintetik singapore? Stadium nasional baru diorang, yang pakai time aff ni pun akan dicabut rumputnya dan ditukar ke sintetik punya.
bukan best tapi maintenance senang. 3-5 taun sekali tukar.. dgn keadaan stadium yg tutup dan buat pengudaraan pencahayaan matahari kurang, mmg susah nak tanam rumput betul.
bukan best tapi maintenance senang. 3-5 taun sekali tukar.. dgn keadaan stadium yg tutup dan buat pengudaraan pencahayaan matahari kurang, mmg susah nak tanam rumput betul.
contoh SBNJ. Singapore cepat belajar.
They now have a bigger jalan besar stadium. What do you know...
Its just a matter of time before we realise that we practically should do the same tooo with snbj...
Best sangat ke padang sintetik singapore? Stadium nasional baru diorang, yang pakai time aff ni pun akan dicabut rumputnya dan ditukar ke sintetik punya.
Best sangat ke padang sintetik singapore? Stadium nasional baru diorang, yang pakai time aff ni pun akan dicabut rumputnya dan ditukar ke sintetik punya.
Singapore buat hal lagi. Penyokong sangkut kat woodlands hari ni
Berapa ramaii sebenarnya yang sangkut kat CIQ? Ada info tak? Penyokong SG tuduh mereka yang ditahan ni sebagai "hooligans" dan cuma beberapa orang sahaja yang tak diberi masuk. Mohon info lagi pasal isu ni.
Berapa ramaii sebenarnya yang sangkut kat CIQ? Ada info tak? Penyokong SG tuduh mereka yang ditahan ni sebagai "hooligans" dan cuma beberapa orang sahaja yang tak diberi masuk. Mohon info lagi pasal isu ni.
Tu la yg aku dgr 2 org jer ditahan masuk sebelum match myammar...
Penyokong kita sikit kat stadium simply because memang sikit je yg beli tiket tu....fam terpaksa pulang balik baki tiket ke singapore...
Mungkin fans kita kureng sebab dah nampak tahun ni kita takkan menang...
Thats understandable....
Tapi kalau kehadiran penyokong berkadar rata dgn kemungkinan untuk menang, what weed did those burmese smoking to make them think they have higher probality then us ?
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Tapi kalau kehadiran penyokong berkadar rata dgn kemungkinan untuk menang, what weed did those burmese smoking to make them think they have higher probality then us ?
sbb team diorg dh nk main WC kot next year. haha
sejam lg woiii. dua legend ASEAN, bawak negara masing2.
Nov 19 2014, 11:24 PM, updated 12y ago
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sebab relate ngan bola sepak..kang off topic lak..
stewardess kot..
...dah main baik...tapi perangai tak baik...adesss 
Tak tau la team yg nak lawan Malaysia ni lagi power ker x? 
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