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post Nov 25 2014, 08:51 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Nov 25 2014, 08:19 AM)
Nak menyelesaikan masalah ni is nothing more than mentality.. kogi najmi tu dah tunjuk dah skill set lebih kurang je for youth age.

Patut sports school from now dah push them mentally bukan physically and technical sahaja. Jgn terlalu selesa bermain sebelah ahseng abu maniam saja. (and of coz parents encouragement)...u got to admit it is not easy. Tp pelik jgk..as a footballer u shud know that this is not a weak sports. Walhal ramai jgk rakyat malaysia yg kerja sorang2 kt negara org (mentally challenging..tp masih mampu carik nasik dan tidur)

Wenger pon pernah ckp yang membezakan player remaja pd end of their youth cap is mentality. How far they want..how far they are willing to push

Kalau tak mampu acknowledge masalah ni sampai bila kita tak ke mana.

Sbb tu harini kita masih bangga dgn nicol ann david sorang je. Pdhal umur setahun jagung dia dah gi training kt europe sengsorang bwk beg (player squash byk mcmni..gi europe sengsorg..carik hotel flight sendir since youth age)
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post Nov 25 2014, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(dedark @ Nov 24 2014, 11:06 PM)
Park the bus..park the bus till we die.Pastu counter kat mat yo.Biar dia buat keje,gol x gol belakang citer as long as we avoid defeat. Seriusly lawan ngan siam ni jangan lah main pacey sangat risau betul saya. Nanti dah pancit,siam tikitakuk time tu confirm stress pastu tak boleh adapt pressure. Kalau tengok game siam-xinjiapo,kita boleh je grab 1 point,tapi instead of 1 point awat tak grab je 3 point nanti boleh play safe ngan xinjiapor nanti.
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If DS really implement the 'park the bus' tactic then our players need to be very disciplined which a thing that we fear the most....2 layers of 4 & Khairul Fahmi need to be at is very best as we would expect that Thailand will have a lot of shots on target...absorb the pressure and hit them on the counter...Matyo will be the key with support from 2 speedy wingers.. keep the faith.
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My 1st 11 Vs. Siam
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Mahalli Afif Fadhli Zubir
Hafiz Safiq Bad
Amri Matyo
Safee

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post Nov 25 2014, 10:59 AM

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Safee juga yg diharap.
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QUOTE(abangjamboo @ Nov 25 2014, 11:52 AM)
My 1st 11 Vs. Siam
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Mahalli Afif Fadhli Zubir
Hafiz Safiq Bad
Amri Matyo
Safee
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letak safee ibarat main 10 org, lawam siam lak tu, mmg carik maut la
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angin kencang rangel masuk ganu.
untunglaaaaa ganu, menangguk di air keruh.
kesian andik. sad.gif
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QUOTE(ooorait @ Nov 25 2014, 11:33 AM)
angin kencang rangel masuk ganu.
untunglaaaaa ganu, menangguk di air keruh.
kesian andik. sad.gif
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harap azmin blh kawtim cpt...
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post Nov 25 2014, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Nov 25 2014, 08:19 AM)
Nak menyelesaikan masalah ni is nothing more than mentality.. kogi najmi tu dah tunjuk dah skill set lebih kurang je for youth age.

Patut sports school from now dah push them mentally bukan physically and technical sahaja. Jgn terlalu selesa bermain sebelah ahseng abu maniam saja. (and of coz parents encouragement)...u got to admit it is not easy. Tp pelik jgk..as a footballer u shud know that this is not a weak sports. Walhal ramai jgk rakyat malaysia yg kerja sorang2 kt negara org (mentally challenging..tp masih mampu carik nasik dan tidur)

Wenger pon pernah ckp yang membezakan player remaja pd end of their youth cap is mentality. How far they want..how far they are willing to push

Kalau tak mampu acknowledge masalah ni sampai bila kita tak ke mana.

Sbb tu harini kita masih bangga dgn nicol ann david sorang je. Pdhal umur setahun jagung dia dah gi training kt europe sengsorang bwk beg (player squash byk mcmni..gi europe sengsorg..carik hotel flight sendir since youth age)
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Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.

Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.

Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.

Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.

Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.

Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.


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JAWAPAN TMJ

Ini Jawapan TMJ Berkenaan dakwaan kononnya,
"JDT adalah punca kejatuhan bola sepak Malaysia" dan "JDT punca Liga M hadapi masalah"..

Kredit Johor Southern Tigers
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post Nov 25 2014, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 25 2014, 11:45 AM)
Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.

Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.

Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.

Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.

Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.

Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.
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Yg ni aku sangat setuju. Terutamanya on sending our young boys abroad as a team together. Yg ni pun aku rasa adalah revised decision dari pihak FAM, memandangkan batch sebelum ni yg dihantar ke luar secara solo tak membuahkan hasil sangat. Btw dulu akmal rizal dihantar berdua bersama Juzaili, jadi not exactly the case of him fending for himself alone masa kat France.

Tapi memang betul la, Amri Yahya dan Indra Putra ni sebaya dengan Akmal Rizal, tapi dari segi longevity of career, diorang lagi lama main ( mungkin injury factors menyumbang, menyebabkan akmal has to cut his career short ). Tapi at his peak of performance, Akmal lagi berbisa dari segi penyudah kalau nak dibandingkan dgn amri yahya sebagai contoh...

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Btw, IINM fadzli shaari dan rudie ramli masih main bola professionally lagi kan? Diorang ni lagi muda dari batch Akmal dan Indra...

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 25 2014, 11:45 AM)
Aku rasa mentality " nothing more untuk selesaikan masalah ni dari mentality" adelah very limiting.

Sebab while kita peluk tubuh tunggu mentality orang lain untuk berubah, result national team still counts.

Our endpoint should not be the players mentality. Tapi how to improve national team standings . Tak kiralah cecamne pon mentaliti player tu.

Sementara nak tunggu anak2 duta berminat nak main bola, we kinda stuck with these kampung dudes. And we are not even close to milking them yet. Sure, most of them sepatah haram bahasa asing takle paham, tak reti duduk budaya asing, rindu masakan mak semua...tapi some of them can really play good football... Itu je yg penting..... Titus jame proved that kalau mentaliti untuk adapt ke budaya luar bagus pon, belom tentu player tu boleh improve national team.

Berdasarkan past rekod, hantar player ke luar sesorang bring more unrepairable regress ke atas pontentially good young talent dari actually improving him. Aku tak sure if safee sali, amri yahya, shukur adan, norhafiz zamani or inderaputra could reach the level there were at their heights if they were sent to fend for themselves in foreign land at early age.

Hantar ke luar as a team is a much better compromise to what we learn from our mistakes in the 90s. Some of the players from harimau muda slovakia/liga s/queensland project achived more caps and international achievement than akmal rizal, fazli shaari, rudie ramli, juzaili sameon dan titus james combined.
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And we shud reaping the benefit NOW.
Termasuk muslim ahmad..hanya 3 org je produk harimau muda yg main aff kalini. Is this u called a success? Harimau muda projek dah almost 7-8thn tu. Marah kj kalau projek dia 7-8thn end up mcmni jgk.

Im not saying we shud stop harimau Muda. NO. It is just that past 2 years tak nampak apa pon progress bebudak hantar luar ni..takat tu lagi. (sama je lah result nya dgn hantar sorang dua pergi oversea laugh.gif )

Investing millions tp dpt la seorang dua level sukan sea or aff and end up beraksi dalam liga M adalah investment gagal. Period.

Kena revise. Kenapa mentaliti takde pon player berebut nak main aussie a league professionally? apa tak kena? Mcmana team ni yg dulunya fokus OLIMPIK...now cukup la menang sea games. Now dpt main s league pon dah suka..atau negeri sebelahnya. Hahaha.Mcmana mindset ni boleh berubah?

Kalau nak acknowledge yea yea improvement menang sea games and aff...so where we go from there? Still struggling w the likes of thai singapore myanmmar aint pretty at all. Seriously all sea teams are still struggling to break the asian barrier.

Level AFF.

Yea sure kita perlukan improvement sambil nak tunggu org berubah mentaliti...dah 4 tahun tunggu since last menang. National team pon x berubah.

kalau menang tahun ni syukur laaa. Tp bkn la sekadar level next year lwn dgn indon terpaksa draw lg...sigh..regress sungguh expectation kita.
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QUOTE(sam.hajime @ Nov 25 2014, 12:23 PM)
JAWAPAN TMJ

Ini Jawapan TMJ Berkenaan dakwaan kononnya,
"JDT adalah punca kejatuhan bola sepak Malaysia" dan "JDT punca Liga M hadapi masalah"..

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QUOTE(ooorait @ Nov 25 2014, 11:33 AM)
angin kencang rangel masuk ganu.
untunglaaaaa ganu, menangguk di air keruh.
kesian andik. sad.gif
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Padan muka FAS
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post Nov 25 2014, 01:25 PM

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Perhaps my bar is different than the rest. For me, i shud seeing these boys are atleast challenging the likes of qatar, bahrain, japan, oz, iran, saudi and so on.

And comparison akmal and titus is very unfair.
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Akmal rizal becomes a legend not because his short stint in europe. (it was cut short because of his continuous injury). Dia jd taraf legend coz his contribution to the national team. Simple. I still do remember his lovely goal vs china away. We drew 1-1. Sharp gila dia dulu. Letak akmal rizal dgn safee time peak pon aku still pilih akmal.

Nazmi pon sampai harini masih misteri sbb sbnr dia balik. X dpt makan nasi ke? Xcukup duit ke? Atau agent yg scam? Or rindu awek?

Wud u say teerasil is a fail example if let say his almeria stint will end within 1 season? Hmm

Selagi mentaliti nak main kampung..tak apalahh aku dah cukup bagus dari hadi yahya..aku dah cukup lg bagus dr ashari..aku dah cukup lg bagus dr sharom kalam...CUKUP la dpt beli kereta besar ni..cash pulak tu...

Selagi tu lah kita just mengharapkan taktik2 terpaksa squeeze out points here and there utk advance....

Ironically

Harimau B main liga S dgn liga byk import for whole season jgk...brp byk talent kita dpt squeeze out?

Harimau A yg main S league sblm ni pon talent2 yg sama gak. Mahali wanzack fadhlishas izham kecik and so on...yg lain mcmtu gak

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Harimau Muda lebih byk success bila main dlm negara je ketika rajagobal coach siap boleh bawak jadi juara liga perdana. Lepas tu main luar, banyak jatuh pulak.

Aku lebih minat result frenz united. Masanya akan tiba bila first batch frenz ni masuk pasaran ataupun frenz sendiri masuk liga malaysia. Aku jangkakan, diorang ni akan lebih menyinar dari Najmuddin & Kogi.
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QUOTE(mie_taiping @ Nov 25 2014, 02:05 PM)
Harimau Muda lebih byk success bila main dlm negara je ketika rajagobal coach siap boleh bawak jadi juara liga perdana. Lepas tu main luar, banyak jatuh pulak.

Aku lebih minat result frenz united. Masanya akan tiba bila first batch frenz ni masuk pasaran ataupun frenz sendiri masuk liga malaysia. Aku jangkakan, diorang ni akan lebih menyinar dari Najmuddin & Kogi.
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Dan kemudian di sapu bersih oleh JDT untuk memanaskan leather recaro

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post Nov 25 2014, 02:24 PM

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Kenapa sistem bola sepak Brazil tidak sesuai untuk bola sepak Malaysia?

Brazil juga mempunyai semangat kenegerian yang tinggi dan juga masalah kemiskinan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_foo...l_league_system
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QUOTE(Xnet @ Nov 25 2014, 02:14 PM)
Dan kemudian di sapu bersih oleh JDT untuk memanaskan leather recaro
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Hehehe...

JDT sepatutnya dah boleh start groom player sendiri. Sebagai permulaan, diorang boleh beli (sapu bersih lagi) bebudak Harimau muda c masuk akademi jdt. Bawak diorang merantau & dilatih coach luar. Ala, apa guna sain partnership ngan kelab luar, kalau takleh nak sparing ngan youth diorang.
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QUOTE(mie_taiping @ Nov 25 2014, 02:27 PM)
Hehehe...

JDT sepatutnya dah boleh start groom player sendiri. Sebagai permulaan, diorang boleh beli (sapu bersih lagi) bebudak Harimau muda c masuk akademi jdt. Bawak diorang merantau & dilatih coach luar. Ala, apa guna sain partnership ngan kelab luar, kalau takleh nak sparing ngan youth diorang.
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Instead of hmc... Baik dia gi hantar bebudak youth dia sendiri gi merantau...

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