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abangjamboo
post Nov 20 2014, 08:52 PM

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So, 1st eleven vs menyamar sama dgn vs Vietnam hari tu?
Gary's not too bad. Afif maybe tukar dgn Fadhli shas.
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post Nov 20 2014, 09:43 PM

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Malaysia no 22 dalam AFC MA Ranking as of 3 November.

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Dollah mcm dah sahkan striker yg akan main first match amri &matyo xsalah.

Fair choice
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post Nov 20 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Monolog @ Nov 20 2014, 09:43 PM)
Malaysia no 22 dalam AFC MA Ranking as of 3 November.
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Source ?

Kebetulan terbuka replay first leg second half final aff 2010 .

Mat yo godmode... Safee , mahali and amar rohidan didnt put a foot wrong....

Boleh tgak kat mata masing2 how pumpped up they were...

The most surreal 10 minutes of football in my life..

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Kenapa the same set of players boleh deteriote so much ?

Apa yang beza ? Nt Coach ? Import ? Jdt ? Presiden fam ?

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 20 2014, 10:28 PM)

Kenapa the same set of players boleh deteriote so much ?

Apa yang beza ? Nt Coach ? Import ? Jdt ? Presiden fam ?
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I would say: Import and JDT combined.
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post Nov 21 2014, 12:45 AM

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post Nov 21 2014, 08:26 AM

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Harap dapat bermula dengan baik lawan Myanmar.
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post Nov 21 2014, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Nov 20 2014, 10:28 PM)
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Kenapa the same set of players boleh deteriote so much ?

Apa yang beza ? Nt Coach ? Import ? Jdt ? Presiden fam ?
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Detoriate starts 2011. Taktau apa jd. Gagal build from the winning momentum. Remember wcq? Kena sembelih 3-0 dgn singapork "rajagopal apa ko dah buat" first game aff 2012?

Dlm semua posisi yang wujud atas padang, ada dua posisi yg bg gopal untouchable. Kalau anyone can compile list of our first 11 since 2010 until 2014 ..maybe boleh dpt jwpn smile.gif

1. Player tak on form
2. Nt coach, not brave and very limited with plan A.

Jdt pon wujud tahun 2013. Jauh sgt tu nak blame jdt waktu tu.

Despite that..rg manage to spur his team to semi. Home and away v thailand...same old spirit is there, during that tough and grueling time for their mental

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QUOTE(syazwan @ Nov 21 2014, 03:04 AM)
Detoriate starts 2011. Taktau apa jd. Gagal build from the winning momentum. Remember wcq? Kena sembelih 3-0 dgn singapork "rajagopal apa ko dah buat" first game aff 2012?

Dlm semua posisi yang wujud atas padang, ada dua posisi yg bg gopal untouchable. Kalau anyone can compile list of our first 11 since 2010 until 2014 ..maybe boleh dpt jwpn smile.gif

1. Player tak on form
2. Nt coach, not brave and very limited with plan A.

Jdt pon wujud tahun 2013. Jauh sgt tu nak blame jdt waktu tu.

Despite that..rg manage to spur his team to semi. Home and away v thailand...same old spirit is there, during that tough and grueling time for their mental
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ingat lagi masa safee main pelita 2011 tu. die punya stail main pun ade improve tapi masa tu geng2 Malaysia masih dibuai mimpi menang AFF.

bagi aku to put blame JDT x jugak mcm syazwan ckp la. jdt wujud pun 2013. tapi utk ckp JDT punca safee jadi suka duk bench, yg ni aku sokong. player duk bench mmg jadi lemau la.
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post Nov 21 2014, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Nov 21 2014, 11:27 AM)
ingat lagi masa safee main pelita 2011 tu. die punya stail main pun ade improve tapi masa tu geng2 Malaysia masih dibuai mimpi menang AFF.

bagi aku to put blame JDT x jugak mcm syazwan ckp la. jdt wujud pun 2013. tapi utk ckp JDT punca safee jadi suka duk bench, yg ni aku sokong. player duk bench mmg jadi lemau la.
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Yup...more top local players will be a regular benchwarmer at JDT next season....good luck to Kunalan , Farizal , Junior & Chanturu.
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Dont worry guys, HM will win both game vs Myanmar and Singapore but lose to Thailand and then we beat thailand in final!!!! Hahahaha
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post Nov 21 2014, 01:41 PM

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Harap saham safee masih tinggi kat indon...then move back there after aff..

Its better for him to maintain his import status elsewhere than to stay in malaysia and compete wih imports....

Some time import players get more playing time not only because of their ability and physicality, but also due to their 'import status' .... Due to commercial , financial and professonal politics, the management would want the expensively selected imports to do well. So they will provide all the tools needed for that to happen at the expense of local players.

Its unfair to sweep the problem under the carpet by blaming local players mentality when they cant compete when it was an unfair competetion to begin with..

The odds were never in their favour.

I am all for competetion . But only if playing time is not the stake of the competition...because playing time is the tool needed to compete. Kalau yg menang je dapat tool tu, yg kalah akan terus kalah. That is not a healthy competition to me.

kita paksa pemain untuk solve dan improve masa 90 minutes atas padang.... Baru btol.

Sebab tu aku pelik bile ade orang nak dismiss lions dari liga kita....they can win an import infested league without imports. dgn team macam ni la yang patut kita bersaing dan berguru..

Ade saingan + guna kudrat sendiri = improve

Ade saingan + guna kudrat org lain yg setelkan = org lain la yg improve....

Anyway...aku hanya lay down my points to counter opinion yg cakap import > improve liga >improve our national team..... Its not that simple..

Tapi aku tak harap pon fam akan mansuhkan import balik walaupun aku yakin its the right thing to do . aku concede yg imports will not go anywhere soon .

We can take our time .

But sooner or later kita kena buat something to dance around the import situation. Continuously putting the blame solely on metality of our players will not improve our national team . Kita tak boleh apply Type A solution to Type B problem. Dah tahu kita ni Type B, apa kita nak buat ?

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rather than safee why not introduce other local talents as an import status towards asean country. The like of Mat yo,Farhan, Wak am, Kecik pun boleh je jadi imports. Target asean league je, dapat main untuk liga laos pun boleh je kot. Player singapura, macam Noh Alam Shah,Shahril Ishak berape tahun berkelana kat liga indon.
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post Nov 21 2014, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(dedark @ Nov 21 2014, 03:00 PM)
rather than safee why not introduce other local talents as an import status towards asean country. The like of Mat yo,Farhan, Wak am, Kecik pun boleh je jadi imports. Target asean league je, dapat main untuk liga laos pun boleh je kot. Player singapura, macam Noh Alam Shah,Shahril Ishak berape tahun berkelana kat liga indon.
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Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
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post Nov 21 2014, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(BendItLikeSafiq @ Nov 21 2014, 03:14 PM)
Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
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Budak2 Melayu Malaysia sekarang bukan budak2 Melayu zaman sebelum dan baru Merdeka.
Budak2 Melayu sekarang lembik - tahu nak senang dengan minimum effort.
Sangat senang di'bookie' kan - refer to nak senang dgn minimum effort.

Tak salahkan depa jugak - kalau dah ada employer yang nak bagi gaji besar sementara boleh memanaskan telur - memang lah itu arrangement yang ideal.

Buat apa nak pegi ke indon - jauh, nasik lemak sambal tak power, nak buat kuang ajar kat sana takut kena tetak dek Batak.
Bila dah agak2 nak menetas sebelah telur tu - adjust la sikit bagi sama panas.

Majulah bookie untuk semua
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masalah attitude dan culture malay and even malaysian as a whole kita ni mmg susah nak ubah..


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post Nov 21 2014, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Xnet @ Nov 21 2014, 03:25 PM)
Budak2 Melayu Malaysia sekarang bukan budak2 Melayu zaman sebelum dan baru Merdeka.
Budak2 Melayu sekarang lembik - tahu nak senang dengan minimum effort.
Sangat senang di'bookie' kan - refer to nak senang dgn minimum effort.

Tak salahkan depa jugak - kalau dah ada employer yang nak bagi gaji besar sementara boleh memanaskan telur - memang lah itu arrangement yang ideal.

Buat apa nak pegi ke indon - jauh, nasik lemak sambal tak power, nak buat kuang ajar kat sana takut kena tetak dek Batak.
Bila dah agak2 nak menetas sebelah telur tu - adjust la sikit bagi sama panas.

Majulah bookie untuk semua
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kekekkeke hantar main kat indon karang tahu tahu kawen baru. Yang tak kawen lagi tak pelah. Tu belum main ngan liga thailand lagi tahu tahu balik bawak siplis. Joking je. Aside that baru tahu, one of the India Super league punya team partly own by anak amitabh bachan. Bila visit official league site dia sangat sangat impress. Adakah itu namanya privatisation in football?
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QUOTE(BendItLikeSafiq @ Nov 21 2014, 03:14 PM)
Our players are in a comfort zone in MSL...obviously we have the talent to breakthrough any league in ASEAN region...but its up to them on whether they are willing to leave the comfort zone..
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Tepuk sebelah tgn takkan berbunyi.....

The teams also have to get out of their comfort zone to offer that import spot to us...

As I said before import selection have high commercial, financial and political stake. People can lose their jobs if the selection turned out wrong.

safee sali fits that criteria when pelita jaya signed them after 2010.

The case for us need to overwhelming for it to happen.... Right now its pretty weak....
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QUOTE(dedark @ Nov 21 2014, 04:00 PM)
kekekkeke hantar main kat indon karang tahu tahu kawen baru. Yang tak kawen lagi tak pelah. Tu belum main ngan liga thailand lagi tahu tahu balik bawak siplis. Joking je. Aside that baru tahu, one of the India Super league punya team partly own by anak amitabh bachan. Bila visit official league site dia sangat sangat impress. Adakah itu namanya privatisation in football?
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Bkn saja bolasepak badminton pon diorg sdh handal
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apa pun harapnya ada sinar2 bahagia dalam games vs. menyamar dan siam. aku dah beli tiket vs singapore + tix bas....tapi kalu both games awal dah lingkup, mcm xde makna jugak g spore

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