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TSmafeya
post Sep 16 2006, 11:19 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hey guys post here if you're a high performance flashlight fan. surefire, inova, pelican, gerber, fenix, and more.

Here's my fenix P1. Been used for quite sometime.

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more here: fenix P1 pics

ps. those thinking flashlight collecting is weird, well we know that already rclxms.gif

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post Sep 17 2006, 01:43 AM

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maglite torchlight can post ah?
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post Sep 17 2006, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(yamato @ Sep 17 2006, 01:43 AM)
maglite torchlight can post ah?
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well I don't see why not. smile.gif
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post Sep 17 2006, 10:48 AM

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My collection of lights so far....

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post Sep 17 2006, 11:39 PM

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once again great collection crusader. cmon ppl...post sum lights.

i guess everyone had those mag(gies) at one time or another...
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post Sep 18 2006, 12:28 AM

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i have a fascination of torchlights since young...

but no money to buy a real high quality flashlight sad.gif

the only thing i have is a 15 LED no brand torchlight with a laser in da middle i bought in singapore for s$20 -.-"

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post Sep 18 2006, 12:35 AM

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where u get these fenix? how much you bought them?
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post Sep 18 2006, 12:44 AM

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He is my expensive & useless torch. It is LED. mad.gif Quality also poor. Anyway i just post mine la. Brand:Kovea Model: VKAF-201 http://www.kovea.com/ProductDetail.asp?pfi...Name=VKAF%2D201

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post Sep 18 2006, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(silllver @ Sep 18 2006, 12:44 AM)
He is my expensive & useless torch. It is LED. mad.gif Quality also poor. Anyway i just post mine la. Brand:Kovea Model: VKAF-201 http://www.kovea.com/ProductDetail.asp?pfi...Name=VKAF%2D201

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at least it looks nice laugh.gif
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post Sep 18 2006, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(silllver @ Sep 18 2006, 12:35 AM)
where u get these fenix? how much you bought them?
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hey there...if you'd like to know more. join us at: EDCmy forum and we will try to answer you our best. rclxm9.gif

btw, the lights you guys have are just out of this world. Swt.

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post Sep 21 2006, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Crusader @ Sep 17 2006, 10:48 AM)
My collection of lights so far....

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WOW shocking.gif shocking.gif
dude!! ultimate collection man!!
must be over 3k sumtin....salute salute
i've always wanted that defender...


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post Sep 21 2006, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(XP750 @ Sep 21 2006, 12:44 PM)
WOW shocking.gif  shocking.gif
dude!! ultimate collection man!!
must be over 3k sumtin....salute salute
i've always wanted that defender...
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i didn't noe REAL torches are that expensive shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Sep 21 2006, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(XP750 @ Sep 21 2006, 12:44 PM)
WOW shocking.gif  shocking.gif
dude!! ultimate collection man!!
must be over 3k sumtin....salute salute
i've always wanted that defender...
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Not really, 2k plus... can't remember exact amount. Not ultimate either... sad.gif those were some below average lights from surefire. Can't really afford those ultimate from surefire smile.gif
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i'm looking for a stinger security flashlight for my weapons collection. tried to get a few security guards to buy for me but was rejected. anyone can help?
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QUOTE(Crusader @ Sep 21 2006, 08:58 PM)
Not really, 2k plus... can't remember exact amount. Not ultimate either... sad.gif those were some below average lights from surefire. Can't really afford those ultimate from surefire smile.gif
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btw..wanna ask sumtin, how's the beam and brightness of the defender? i may be buying 1.. is the beam focus all the way or tends to spread, n how far can the beam shine..thanks ya leet
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QUOTE(XP750 @ Sep 24 2006, 01:23 AM)
btw..wanna ask sumtin, how's the beam and brightness of the defender? i may be buying 1.. is the beam focus all the way or tends to spread, n how far can the beam shine..thanks ya leet
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IIRC, the defender was about RM700 when I bot from ACE hardware. The beam facus all the way but not sure how far can shine.

Read here for details of the light....

E2D Defender Review

Cheers..
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post Apr 5 2007, 10:18 PM

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The E2D can be bought from mafeya here at RM450

I bought mine from him. Quality is good, can shatter glass, car windscreen/window due to its special feature: The Crenallated Strike Bezel head. Only drawback is it is incandescent and thus the output time is only max 1.25 hrs, and also it gets heated up over time making it useful and harmful.

You could use it to melt frozen bandages. Bad it gets HOT so watch where you place the head after usage. Can also use to stun attackers (thus named the Defender) by shining into the eyes, disorientating them. The Strike Bezel hurts the opponent when hit on vital points.

The flashlight (don't use torch you are insulting the quality of these good brands) is a good buy in my opinion for urbanites.

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post Dec 26 2007, 12:25 AM

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This thread totally dead already eh? Wondering if there are still any flashlight fans around.

Here's mine.

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NiteCore Defender Infinity (Cree Q5) and Fenix L2D (Luxeon Rebel 100)

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Fenix L2D (Luxeon Rebel 100) and Romisen RC-I3 (Cree P4) (gave this to my sister already)

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Is those flashlight equipped with Halogen bulb?
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post Dec 26 2007, 01:04 AM

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My 3 lights above are LED.

For lights of this size, LED's are the brightest and most efficient. The Fenix L2D Rebel 100 outputs 175 lumens and the NiteCore Defender Infinity outputs 180 lumens (on NiMH).

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This is my mountain bike flashlight, equipped with micro halogen bulb.
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Need 4 AA batteries to power-up this flashlight.
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post Dec 30 2007, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Dec 26 2007, 12:25 AM)
This thread totally dead already eh? Wondering if there are still any flashlight fans around.

Here's mine.

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NiteCore Defender Infinity (Cree Q5) and Fenix L2D (Luxeon Rebel 100)

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Fenix L2D (Luxeon Rebel 100) and Romisen RC-I3 (Cree P4) (gave this to my sister already)
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The Defender Infinity looks nice... one of the latest light in the market. How do you like it?
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post Dec 30 2007, 09:32 PM

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u guys think rm100+ can get a decent flashlight ar? sweat.gif

luxeon led with AA batteries preffered whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 30 2007, 09:32 PM)
u guys think rm100+ can get a decent flashlight ar? sweat.gif

luxeon led with AA batteries preffered whistling.gif
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This might get your interest..
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/588729
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 30 2007, 09:32 PM)
u guys think rm100+ can get a decent flashlight ar? sweat.gif

luxeon led with AA batteries preffered whistling.gif
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I think you would like the Cree LED better smile.gif See above post for link tongue.gif
If you need an RM 100 AA Luxeon LED light, I can help you too...
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post Jan 12 2008, 11:56 PM

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Sorry long time nvr check this forum.

QUOTE(nexro @ Dec 30 2007, 09:25 PM)
The Defender Infinity looks nice... one of the latest light in the market. How do you like it?
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I absolutely love it. My favourite EDC light now. Unique but easy to use UI and the forward clicky is really nice.
What lights do u have?


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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 30 2007, 09:32 PM)
u guys think rm100+ can get a decent flashlight ar? sweat.gif

luxeon led with AA batteries preffered whistling.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Dec 31 2007, 06:21 PM)
I think you would like the Cree LED better smile.gif See above post for link tongue.gif
If you need an RM 100 AA Luxeon LED light, I can help you too...
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Lumiled's Luxeon is yesterday's LED technology already. The new Rebel series also from Lumiled are better. Current highest bin-rating is Rebel 100-bin.
Others to look out for are Cree (latest is R2 bin but lights with this are still rare. The last Q5 bin is more common with the latest lights.) and SSC(Seoul Semi-Conductors, P4 bin).

The Cree's are cooler, very white, probably a slight hint of blue.
The Rebel's are a little warmer, ie white with a slight hint of yellow. Daylight colour i'd say. Colour rendering is a tiny bit better.

Just curious, how many of you are CPF(candlepowerforums) members?

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post Jan 14 2008, 03:45 PM

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I have a few Surefire and Fenix lights.
Including the DI of course. Did you get the Raidfire Spear as well ?

Not all Cree X-REs are cool white... I have some warmer tints and yellow ones as well.
Rebels on the other hand are more unpredictable... on multi level lights, the tint can be different for each level! laugh.gif

I'm a CPF member... how about you?
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I see... cool. There's just something about surefire's that attracts me. But i haven't got round to pony out the money. Surefire's were the first powerful flashlights that attracted me but several years down the road (quite recently), I finally got a Fenix instead.
Nope I didn't get the spear. I'm trying to not buy any more new lights for a while and wait for more significant advances. But well, as CPF members sometimes we just can't resist. Building a powerful incan like the Mag85 or ROP sounds very tempting to me.
I like either large and very powerful or small cili padi (like the NCDI). The cili padi's are the ones that get the most use because of their size and practicality.
What's your favourite EDC at the moment?
I'm also a CPF member. Same nick. Not a heavy poster though.

about the tint... True, but thats a general idea for some of the better recent ones I guess. So far my lights are typical of the general idea. Not so fortunate ones, erm... even a green tint also got i'm sure u've heard.

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Hi MetalZone,

Nice Defender infinity you got there, I am new to this Bright World.
Been wondering where do you get the NiteCore and how much is it?
i got a fenix P1, but now with my dad, so thinking of getting myself a new light...

This kind of decent flashlight not easy to find it in this region....
regards,
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I see... cool. There's just something about surefire's that attracts me. But i haven't got round to pony out the money. Surefire's were the first powerful flashlights that attracted me but several years down the road (quite recently), I finally got a Fenix instead.
Nope I didn't get the spear. I'm trying to not buy any more new lights for a while and wait for more significant advances. But well, as CPF members sometimes we just can't resist. Building a powerful incan like the Mag85 or ROP sounds very tempting to me.
I like either large and very powerful or small cili padi (like the NCDI). The cili padi's are the ones that get the most use because of their size and practicality.
What's your favourite EDC at the moment?
I'm also a CPF member. Same nick. Not a heavy poster though.

about the tint... True, but thats a general idea for some of the better recent ones I guess. So far my lights are typical of the general idea. Not so fortunate ones, erm... even a green tint also got i'm sure u've heard.
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metalzone,
I EDC my DI and Jetbeam MKIIx on rotation. Keep my SF L1 in my laptop bag.
Also bring out my Jetbeam C-LE sometimes to show people in case they might be interested to buy it smile.gif

stonesix,
The Nitecore DI retails for USD 79 at most dealers around the world.
I'm planning to bring some in... anybody interested? smile.gif
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My collection.
Military n Police Force Touch Light light.
Second Level weapon. (illegal in Malaysia)
Direct pointing to human eye can cause 10 second blind, so u can do whatever u want .....


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Spec :
Specifications & Features :
Size: ψ7.2cm x L38cm
Life span: over 750 hrs
Weight: 1100 g
Color temperature: 7000K
Shooting Distance: 1,000 M
Light Output: 1,850 lm
Lamp type: HID 24W
Burn time: over 110 mins
Rechargeable: Yes
Battery life span: more than 500 times rechargeable.
With Aluminum weatherproof casing

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SonnyCool, was that a just a joke or what?
Unfortunately you couldn't fool me tongue.gif

It's actually a 1kW Xenon Arc Tank Light from the 1980's owned by someone in CPF.
Here's the original thread, pictures and actual owner:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=92396
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jan 19 2008, 01:25 AM)
SonnyCool, was that a just a joke or what?
Unfortunately you couldn't fool me tongue.gif

It's actually a 1kW Xenon Arc Tank Light from the 1980's owned by someone in CPF.
Here's the original thread, pictures and actual owner:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=92396
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i think u get fool by the site ....... this pic actually taken by my customer at Jalan Kuchai lama ....
1kw Xenon ??? he try to make some joke ???


this is the item :
This is second version :
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the brightstar 24W HID doesn't produce such a narrow beam...
why don't you post some pictures that you've taken instead of taking them from other websites???


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post Jan 22 2008, 01:03 AM

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I really don't know what are your intentions and i don't wish to start a flame war. But, the pics you posted claiming it's ur customer's... LOOK CLOSELY at the pictures at the forum i posted. Look at the shape of the light in the second picture. Which does it more closely resemble? The tank light or the brightstar dipper? Besides, how in the world did that guy in the CPF forum get larger unwatermarked pictures of the same thing you posted (of whom you claimed are pictures your customer took)?

And by the way, thats not a 1kW HID. it's a carbon arc light (filled with xenon gas). And that's no joke.

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where you all got fenix. ?
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partly from me tongue.gif
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I get my lights online. A good selection of online stores that ship internationally. Check out www.candlepowerforums.com
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metalzone,
have you got any liteflux lights?
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nexro, are you seller fenix flashlight?
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yes...
but there are also other sellers here and abroad.

I don't carry many of the latest models though but I'm selling off some extras which I had previously. Please check out the link on my siggy.

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who surefire collector here. smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jan 30 2008, 08:38 AM)
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Nope. They are interesting stuff though. I checked them out when I coincidently met Ipoh CPF member LED Cool at the ipoh main post office customs counter. I like the way they switch modes and also have a forward clicky.
The LF2 is a really nice multi-brightness AAA light. Haha, kena poison. But I think i'll wait a while before I get another LED light. For now, I'm 'gassing' for a Surefire.
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The SF E1B looks pretty promising... getting that one? biggrin.gif
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yeah SFE1B so cute. tongue.gif
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post Feb 6 2008, 01:13 AM

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Haha, not sure. I kinda like the L1 Cree. or the E2D (mod it). Probably wait around for some E1B reviews to surface.
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for me the best surefire is E2D and L2. mayb some people like another model tongue.gif
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why do you prefer the E2D and L2 ?
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I dunt think flashlight with higher lumen output is better. it make my eye blind. lol. flashlight with 2 batt 123A it ok not too long and not so bright.
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post Feb 12 2008, 09:39 PM

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Finally bit the bullet and ordered a SureFire L1 Cree... can't wait to receive it.
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hehe... congrats smile.gif
hope you'll like it...
where did you order it from?
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I recently bought a rated 12W Luxeon "Lichao Police" cheapo flashlight (running on 4 AAA batteries) ...I was wondering any expert here know the actual rating as I know, Luxeon never goes higher than 3W & <100Lumen hmm.gif ..Anyway it's cheap (<RM40)......hehe..probably get a fenix P3D from Nexro ... hmm.gif biggrin.gif ...my problem is worry on the cost of cr123 batteries... blush.gif

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CR123 cells are expensive in our country. Although you can get cheaper ones, the quality of the cell comes into question. There has been a lot of cases recently being posted on CPF. Just take extra precautions when using them.

You could also opt for rechargeble li-ions from Petunia or source them elsewhere like Jalan Pasar. Do take note that these cells are to be used carefully. Do read up on them and the safety measures here:
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-5B.htm

I've only posted one part. You should preferabably read them all!
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QUOTE(nexro @ Feb 13 2008, 10:35 AM)
hehe... congrats smile.gif
hope you'll like it...
where did you order it from?
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bought it from a CPF'er brightspot (Randy).
I hope I like it too. Will probably put in some AW 16430 Li-Ion's for that extra lumens.
I was thinking of doing a milky mod (with the madmax+ circuit) but he doesn't seem to be responding (pretty busy man i suppose). Maybe i'll use it for some time first and try modding it myself provided i have enough tips and advice from CPF'ers.

The latest Surefire UB2 Invictus and UA2 Optimus are really mouth watering. Too bad I can't afford them.
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Atlast I got myself a Fenix P3D Premium Q5 from Nexro Y'day and here is the compariosn wth the cheapo rated 12W Police Luxeon III:

Side by side:
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Result (Both at highest mode) (On the left is the Police wth bluish smaller hotspot & Fenix bigger & much focused & brighter hotspot but less spill compare wth Police which has a bigger spill that can't even be seen on the photo:

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On my layman eye estimation, the Police luxeon is only equivalent to the mid-mode of Fenix which is rated at 53Lumen from this website:



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https://www.fenix-store.com/product_info.ph...products_id=363 & here is the advertised Lumen on diff setting:

General Mode: 12 lumens (65hrs) -> 53 lumens (13hrs) -> 120 lumens (4.8hrs) ->  Turbo Mode: 215 lumens (1.8hrs)


So Happy man probably getting brighter one soon to replace the cheapo Poilice... biggrin.gif


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Congrats and welcome to the club bro!
Unfortunately, I think I might be selling off my Fenix L2D Premium 100 soon. Haven't been using it often. Feels redundant as my smaller but equally bright Defender Infinity (with AW 14500 protected Li-Ion) sees use everyday.

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Tnx for the welcome msg...I just placed an order for Ultrafire C2 Q5 -5mode..touted much brighter than Fenix P3D Q5 to replaced my 1 week old Police 12W Luxeon... drool.gif

BTW, my Police 12W which I rated at 60 Lumen is for sale right now in the garage section rclxms.gif

QUOTE(MetalZone @ Feb 15 2008, 12:49 AM)
Congrats and welcome to the club bro!
Unfortunately, I think I might be selling off my Fenix L2D Premium 100 soon. Haven't been using it often. Feels redundant as my smaller but equally bright Defender Infinity (with AW 14500 protected Li-Ion) sees use everyday.
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wow, that was fast... do you review flashlights or what? tongue.gif

metalzone,
i think jacc might be interested in the L2D RB100...
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Aghhhh..my Ultrafire C2 Q5 has been delayed by dealextreme.... sad.gif ..According to them, either too many orders or QC problem. So no review.....Managed to dispose my Police 12 Watt Luxeon flashlight rclxms.gif ...I'm not a reviewer but after seeing those reviewer at CPF forum..probably will be one soon... biggrin.gif ..Nxt to compare Ultrafire C2 Q5 & Fenix P3d Q5 biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

My current collections:
1) No name 9 LED
2) no name 19LED
3) Police 12 w Luxeon (Sold)
4) 9led heaplamp (Lost cry.gif )
5) Fenix P3d Q5 - The most expensive...and my current bolster now...carry it all the time blush.gif
6) Ultrafire C2 Q5 - coming soon.....

Nexro...run some review-lah...It will make this thread more interesting... biggrin.gif

Here is the link to Flashlight lovers in Malsingmaps (The thread that poisoned me on Fenix ! blush.gif ): http://www.malsingmaps.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1035

Another review by comparing Police 12W wth 19 LED no name light:
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wow, that was fast... do you review flashlights or what? tongue.gif

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Got my Surefire L1 (Gen 6, Cree) yesterday and I'm lovin it. Build quality is there and feels more solid compared to my other lights.
I was lucky to get a nice pure white tint, leaning slightly towards the cooler side.
I thought my NDI's Cree Q5 had a cool white tint compared to my Fenix's Rebel 100 warm tint.... till I compared it with my L1... which was an even cooler pure white, but it doesn't seem to have a blueish tint.
Nice little pocket thrower. Much less spill than the NDI and L2D but significantly brighter hotspot. Considering how much more the Surefire costs, I'm greedy to demand more lumens when i receive the AW Li-ions.
My first light with Optics and it looks good.

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Top to bottom:
Fenix L2D, SureFire L1, NiteCore Defender Infinity

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Left to right:
NiteCore Defender Infinity (Cree X-RE Q5, Low orange peel reflector),
SureFire L1 (Cree X-RE, TIR/Total Internal Reflection Optics),
Fenix L2D (Rebel 100, Orange peel reflector)

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Running a review on the 2 lights will be great... hmm.gif biggrin.gif
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Here's some beamshots of the following:

SureFire L1 Cree (with SureFire CR123A)
NiteCore Defender Infinity (with AW Protected Li-Ion 14500)
Fenix L2D Premium 100 (with 2x Sanyo Eneloop NiMH)

Distance to wall: 2 metres

There is a very minor difference between Li-Ion's and Eneloops on my Defender Infinity so I used Li-Ion's anyway.

The photographs were taken by my friend at a slight angle so ignore the slightly irregular beam shape. Also, he adjusted the focal length (zoom) a little while taking the larger Fenix spill beam. However, I tried to compensate that while editing the pictures, so it's not 100% accurate. Shutter speed: 1/30 sec

Aperture: f10
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Aperture: f16
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Aperture: f32
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Aperture: f32. Colour desatured to eliminate the beam tint.
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HmnnFenix having warmer light however I can't differentiate which one is brighter.. hmm.gif
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To quote what i said in CPF,
To my eyes, it appears that the L2D has the most amount of total lumens. The hotspot is noticeably brighter than the NDI and I can tell from the pictures and bare eyes.

In throw, the L2D and L1 seems quite closely matched. The L1's beam is obviously more focused thus so it can go head on with the L2D in throw despite having significantly less total lumens. Therefore, it (the L1) clearly loses out in spill. To rephrase what i just said, the L1 optics throws the best, but the L2D can match it's throw simply because it has significantly more total light output (which means includes the hotspot and spill).
65 'conservative' Surefire lumens versus 175 Fenix lumens... and versus 190 seemingly overrated NiteCore lumens. Just goes to show the different methods each company uses to measure their light output... or rather... conservativeness or exaggeration. haha
But I like the NiteCore more than the Fenix in actual use... the size, the forward clicky. In actual use, small differences in light output doesn't matter anymore. It's my current EDC.

However, I just put in AW Protected RCR123 Li-Ions in the L1 today and i love this pocket thrower!
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Hey guys, I will be joining the - Torch Light club really soon. I ordered 2 units of Fenix torch light last 2 weeks and will be arriving this Saturday.

The models I ordered are the L2D Premium Q5 and P3D Premium Q5. Can't wait to play with it.

I will try to do some comparison between them and post it here, I know there might be a lot of people already done that but hey, new opinions are always welcome right?

The lights that I have now are:
1. 3 C-cells Maglite
2. Mini Maglite
3. Liteflux F1 (bought from nexro)
4. Fenix L2D Premium Q5 (arriving soon)
5. Fenix P3D Premium Q5 (arriving soon)
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hey hi ppl..

i didnt know there is a flashlight club...

well i have the Pelican M6 LED and a maglite 2AA..
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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Mar 17 2008, 11:54 PM)
hey hi ppl..

i didnt know there is a flashlight club...

well i have the Pelican M6 LED and a maglite 2AA..
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Hey buddy, you have a nice flashlight yourself. I thought the Pelican M6 uses a xenon bulb (not the LED type)?

I just made it up myself, I think there are no such thing as "flashlight club" in Malaysia, I might be wrong though....

But I know there are a lot of flashlight maniacs out there, especially those who like outdoors activities, eg: fishing, camping, jungle trekking......

I would like to see more and more of those guys stand out and raises their hands. icon_rolleyes.gif
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well i don't know, but i'm going to get one of the Fenix P3D Q5 Premium, i must admit that i'm new in flashlight thingy... used to collect cheap blush.gif

btw, recently bought Nishica Spotlight, it's actually and handheld patrol light, it's very bright (claimed 2 millions candle power), used it... well is indeed bright, the one thing i worried is... the duration... not even 30 mins before the battery flat sad.gif
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 18 2008, 03:43 PM)
well i don't know, but i'm going to get one of the Fenix P3D Q5 Premium, i must admit that i'm new in flashlight thingy... used to collect cheap blush.gif

btw, recently bought Nishica Spotlight, it's actually and handheld patrol light, it's very bright (claimed 2 millions candle power), used it... well is indeed bright, the one thing i worried is... the duration... not even 30 mins before the battery flat sad.gif
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Welcome to the world of LIGHTS bro.

Nishica Sell large flashlight right? But if you like a more compact size flashlight, Fenix is one of the brand you can try it out. As for the batteries functional duration of the Fenix P3D Q5, it will last for around 65 hours if you use the LOW mode.
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 18 2008, 01:40 PM)
Hey buddy, you have a nice flashlight yourself. I thought the Pelican M6 uses a xenon bulb (not the LED type)?

I just made it up myself, I think there are no such thing as "flashlight club" in Malaysia, I might be wrong though....

But I know there are a lot of flashlight maniacs out there, especially those who like outdoors activities, eg: fishing, camping, jungle trekking......

I would like to see more and more of those guys stand out and raises their hands.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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the pelican M6 have a led series. miine emit 40 lumens which is not that bright. I have the pelican Mitylite 3N LED too as well. but right now, i dont really like the brand much because the customer service is really poor unlike last time. nowadays they dont even reply emails... so i doont like them now.. hehe..

i ll aim for a surefire in the future... but fenix sound cool especially the P3D one....
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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Mar 18 2008, 05:37 PM)
the pelican M6 have a led series. miine emit 40 lumens which is not that bright. I have the pelican Mitylite 3N LED too as well. but right now, i dont really like the brand much because the customer service is really poor unlike last time. nowadays they dont even reply emails... so i doont like them now.. hehe..

i ll aim for a surefire in the future... but fenix sound cool especially the P3D one....
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The Fenix P3D Premium Q5 is sure a great flashlight to invest, I have read a lot of reviews before finally decided to get myself 1 unit.
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 18 2008, 06:50 PM)
The Fenix P3D Premium Q5 is sure a great flashlight to invest, I have read a lot of reviews before finally decided to get myself 1 unit.

uiks... ya ka? then i definitely go for this Fenix lah... anyway, wanted to ask, how much the battery cost? someone told me it's RM80 and i was shocking.gif, but nexro told me it's about RM11~RM20 per piece... hmm.gif unsure.gif
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uiks... ya ka? then i definitely go for this Fenix lah... anyway, wanted to ask, how much the battery cost? someone told me it's RM80 and i was shocking.gif, but nexro told me it's about RM11~RM20 per piece... hmm.gif unsure.gif
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how much is the fenix P3D flashlight? i know nexro sells it.. but i have no idea how much..
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Mar 18 2008, 06:56 PM)
uiks... ya ka? then i definitely go for this Fenix lah... anyway, wanted to ask, how much the battery cost? someone told me it's RM80 and i was shocking.gif, but nexro told me it's about RM11~RM20 per piece... hmm.gif unsure.gif
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Oh, for the batteries, I ordered the rechargeable cr123 together with the P3D Premium Q5, it's definitely worth the money if you plan for long term use, the P3D is quite energy hungry. sweat.gif
I strongly suggest buying the rechargeable cr123 if you plan to buy any flashlight that uses the cr123 batteries.

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how much is the fenix P3D flashlight? i know nexro sells it.. but i have no idea how much..
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The price that my supplier gave me is quite cheap compare to those selling in the lowyat.net, but the MOQ (minimum order quantity) need to be 5 units.
If you are interested then please PM me and I will let you know the price. thumbup.gif
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justin 78,

where did u get the rechargeable cr123a from? what brand is it? and how much does it cost? I hardly get to use my flashlight to to the pricey lithium battery...
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justin 78,

where did u get the rechargeable cr123a from? what brand is it? and how much does it cost? I hardly get to use my flashlight to to the pricey lithium battery...
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I got the batteries together with the P3D Premium Q5 (same supplier), the brand is Ultrafire. The price for it is RM85 for 2 pieces of rechargeable cr123 (Ultrafire).

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wow.. 85 ringgit.. i cant afford that haha...
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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Mar 19 2008, 07:21 PM)
wow.. 85 ringgit.. i cant afford that haha...
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Hahaha..... then you can always choose those flashlights that uses the AA batteries like Fenix L2D Premium Q5, which is damn good already. You can find AA batteries every where and it's cheap.

FYI, 1 piece of non-rechargeable cr123 battery already cost you around RM20, if you buy 2 then it's roughly RM 40 already.
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yeah thats why i hardly get to use my Pelican M6 LED ... I only chage the lithium battery like twice only... nexro was saying petunia is selling rechargeable cr123..

hmm let me ask him..

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You can use a li-ion rechargeble 17670 with the P3D. Just make sure it fits inside the tube.

Those rechargeble CR123s don't last very long. At the best, you can expect only 30 min or less on turbo mode. Plus, it's risky using li-ions in series especially those without a protection circuit built in.

P3D - USD 67.50
17670 - USD 5.50 x 2
UltraFire 3.6/3.7V Battery Charger - USD 12.30

Total cost: USD 90.80
Comes to about RM 291

Not really that expensive for an excellent light smile.gif

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An energizer lithium 3V CR123 costs RM 11.90.
3V rechargeble CR123 (RCR123) costs about USD 4.50 each. You need a different charger for it though and it doesn't last very long. Only 350mAH... probably less.

Better to get Ultrafire RCR123 (protected) for USD 4.90 which comes to about RM 16 for two pieces. Don't try two of these in the P3D though wink.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Mar 19 2008, 10:59 PM)
You can use a li-ion rechargeble 17670 with the P3D. Just make sure it fits inside the tube.

Those rechargeble CR123s don't last very long. At the best, you can expect only 30 min or less on turbo mode. Plus, it's risky using li-ions in series especially those without a protection circuit built in.

P3D - USD 67.50
17670 - USD 5.50 x 2
UltraFire 3.6/3.7V Battery Charger - USD 12.30

Total cost: USD 90.80
Comes to about RM 291

Not really that expensive for an excellent light smile.gif

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An energizer lithium 3V CR123 costs RM 11.90.
3V rechargeble CR123 (RCR123) costs about USD 4.50 each. You need a different charger for it though and it doesn't last very long. Only 350mAH... probably less.

Better to get Ultrafire RCR123 (protected) for USD 4.90 which comes to about RM 16 for two pieces. Don't try two of these in the P3D though  wink.gif
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I believe the P3D price you mentioned up there is referring to the fenix-store right? I manage to get one of those with a slightly cheaper price. rclxm9.gif

And the rechargeable CR123 I bought is the Ultrafire 15270 3.0v 600mAh vs the one you recommend 17340 3.0V 350mAh has a slightly higher miliamp, I don't know whether this is a bad thing or not? But this batteries are recommended by my supplier (who selling me the P3D) and I think it's OK for me to use lah. hmm.gif

Hey nexro my man, I want to say thanks to you, because selling me the wonderful LiteFlux LF1. notworthy.gif
Can't wait to do some comparisons with the Fenix P3D and L2D once they reach me.

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Wow more flashlight kaki's eh. cool

I agree with Nexro on the danger element of (rechargeable) Lithium Ions (Li-Ion, often it is Lithium Cobalt type) and also primary(means non-rechargeable) Lithiums. For those who are new to the flashlight world and lithium batteries, take heed.
There have been several mishaps on CPF. Most of them happen on multi-battery lights. Only one known case of a single battery explosion so far but that was with a crap battery. Treat any lithium battery with RESPECT!
1. Don't overchange or overdischarge them.
2. NEVER mix used and new lithium batteries together. Or, batteries with varying levels of remaining power.
Besides batteries with questionable quality, I believe the above are the most common reasons for lithium battery explosions.
Don't settle for dirt cheap batteries with suspect quality. Your safety is more important. Lithium batteries contain very hazardous chemicals.

As for me, I stick to single battery lights if they use lithium(CR123 primaries) or rechargeable lithium-ion's. But thats just me in precaution to the accidents that have happened to multi-battery lithium powered lights.
I don't intend to scare anybody, but just in case you don't know the dangers of these batteries. Accidents like these are very rare. But carelessness would be asking for trouble.

I personally use AW protected rechargeable lithium ion's. But it's 2-3 times the price of Ultrafire and Trustfire batteries though.

There's a newer safe-chemistry Lithium-Ion that wont explode or vent with flame which is called LiFePo4 (lithium ferric phosphate). These LiFePo4's output 3V compared to the usual 3.7V output of Lithium Cobalt (LiCoO2, one of the most common type of Lithium-Ion. Often just referred to as Lithium-Ion). (Lithium cobalt batteries that output 3V's actually contain a step down circuit to reduce the output voltage from 3.7V to 3V)
You need to get a 3V battery charge for these. But the technology of this battery (LiFePo4) isn't that mature yet so they don't contain as much power as Lithium Cobalt (LiCoO2) and primary Lithiums.

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did anyone of u downloaded the surefire 2008 catalog yet? i was wondering is surefire led, is a cree led? i still dont know what the difference between the cree led and the normal luxeon led though...
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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Mar 21 2008, 10:35 AM)
did anyone of u downloaded the surefire 2008 catalog yet? i was wondering is surefire led, is a cree led? i still dont know what the difference between the cree led and the normal luxeon led though...
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Cree LED is from the company call Cree Inc. Luxeon LED is from the company call Philips. Both companies are from US.

Both types of the LED (Cree, Luxeon) produce great amount of lights. Their LEDs are divided into several models, each model produce different amount of lights, the amount of lights can be measured as Lumens.

The Cree LED models:

P4 - 80.6 lumens min
Q2 - 87.4 lumens min
Q3 - 93.9 lumens min
Q4 - 100 lumens min
Q5 - 107 lumens min
R2 - 114 lumens min
R3 - 122 lumens min
R4 - 130 lumens min

The Luxeon (Phillips) LED models:

L - 80 lumens min / 90 max
M - 90 lumens min / 100 max
N - 100 lumens min / 120 max
P - 120 lumens min / 140 max
Q - 140 lumens min / 160 max

So it's all depends of what LED the flashlight company choose to put into their flashlight.
Fenix previously choose the Luxeon (Phillips) LED for its L2D Rebel 100 and Rebel 80, now they change their range to Cree LED model Q5.

Hope I answered your question.

Source from: Lighthound

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Hey guys,

Look what I got just now, the brand new Fenix P3D Premium Q5 and the L2D Premium Q5.

Here are some of the photos I managed to capture:

The flashlights are still inside the box.
L2D Premium Q5 on the left, and P3D Premium Q5 on the right
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3 flashlights together: P3D Premium Q5, L2D Premium Q5, and Liteflux LF1 v1
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From left to right:
Police 14 LED, pasar malam 3 LED, mini maglite, Liteflux LF1 v1, L2D Premium Q5, P3D Premium Q5, and the Nokia 6500 slide.
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hey i dont really get the fenix meaning bt strobe. isnt strobe like sos blinking light?

Turbo Mode: 215 lumens (1.8hrs) -> Strobe meaning after we press the rubber tail cap we get a strobe mode?

and there is a low battery indicator too... how does it work?

I am referring to the fenix P3D Premium Q5.. is there an orange peel texture on the reflector?

anyone knows as much is the fenix L0D sepcial edition the red one?

this is my flashlight collection..

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the black one is the Pelican M6 LED. Max output 40 lumens quite low compare to fenix now haha... but it was a 2004 make . The Pelican Mitylite 3N LED adventure series which is a limited eidtion now since Pelican dont manufacture ot anymore. max output around 4 lumens. Still in packaging not open yet.. and lastly my 1st flashlight collection the maglite 2AA and i bough the filter lens accesorries for the maglite for rm20 which is quite useless i think.

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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Mar 22 2008, 11:31 PM)
hey i dont really get the fenix meaning bt strobe. isnt strobe like sos blinking light?

Turbo Mode: 215 lumens (1.8hrs) -> Strobe meaning after we press the rubber tail cap we get a strobe mode?

and there is a low battery indicator too... how does it work?

I am referring to the fenix P3D Premium Q5.. is there an orange peel texture on the reflector?

anyone knows as much is the fenix L0D sepcial edition the red one?
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Hahaha, It's quite confusing for me also about this SOS thing at the beginning..... rclxub.gif

After my new P3D reached me I found out the answers.

SOS and strobe are different 2 different thing. P3D can do both of it.

SOS -
While u select the SOS mode, the lights will switch On and Off in a specific pattern call the morse code. Morse code previously is use by the army for transmitting telegraph.

Strobe -
If u select this mode, the light will just blink on off on off in constant manner.

Low battery indicator -
The flashlight will keep on blinking no matter what mode u select, this mean the battery is low.

Orange peel reflector -
Fenix got 2 types of reflector for you to choose before you buy. Please refer to here: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v71/Unkn...ixL2DQ5_hds.jpg
The L2D-CE and L2T (lux3) is using the smooth reflector and the rest is using the the orange peel.

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QUOTE(justin78 @ Mar 21 2008, 05:27 PM)
The Cree LED models:

P4 - 80.6 lumens min
Q2 - 87.4 lumens min
Q3 - 93.9 lumens min
Q4 - 100 lumens min
Q5 - 107 lumens min
R2 - 114 lumens min
R3 - 122 lumens min
R4 - 130 lumens min

The Luxeon (Phillips) LED models:

L - 80 lumens min / 90 max
M - 90 lumens min / 100 max
N - 100 lumens min / 120 max
P - 120 lumens min / 140 max
Q - 140 lumens min / 160 max
Just to add, you should also mention that the above figures are measurements by Fenix flashlights driven at 350ma. The more power to you feed the LED, the more light you get, and vice-versa. Of course, overdriving the LED would reduce it's lifespan as well. Also, you may notice that different manufacturers use different standards/methods to measure their output in lumens. Thus, when comparing lumens ratings between different manufacturers, take them with a grain of salt.

Cheers

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Don't forget that most of them also just take the "bulb lumens" figure which is not the true since they haven't considered reflector and lens losses.

Most of the time, it's only approximately 70 - 75% of their quoted figures.

Of course this doesn't apply to Surefire lights as their lumen figures are measured out the front of the flashlight and not solely the bulb itself.


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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Mar 21 2008, 10:35 AM)
did anyone of u downloaded the surefire 2008 catalog yet? i was wondering is surefire led, is a cree led? i still dont know what the difference between the cree led and the normal luxeon led though...
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I think some of the newer ones are using some sort of 4-die LED (namely the Optimus and Invictus). From SSC perhaps ?
400 lumens of blinding LED light!!! shocking.gif

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why some manufacturer like to rate their flashlights in terms of watts...
eg: 1watt LED
isn't lumens the better rating since consumers need to know the brightness?
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I think some of the newer ones are using some sort of 4-die LED (namely the Optimus and Invictus). From SSC perhaps ?
400 lumens of blinding LED light!!!  shocking.gif
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wooo......a flashaholic gathering in lowyat.net .....hehe

hmppp......i used to own a Surefire Defender and numerous Fenix lights that i bought from Nexro......I lost my defender when i went over to stay at one of my frens house.... lost count with how many cos most of them after i upgrade my lights, i pass the old one to my brothers and sister to use.....have been using Fenix since the time of Luxeon till now.....

my current lights are the L0D, P1 CE and the Jet Beam....thought of buying a back to Surefire to play but its just out of my budget currently ....

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been a long time since i heard from you tongue.gif


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hey bro, now i having a quick bulk for Fenix TK-10 Tatical Series flashlight !! anyone interest can refer my signature!! just hope the bulk can finish soon!!
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After getting my real flashlight (Fenix P3D Q5 Premium) from Nexro, My quest for something brighter never end. First I tried Ultrafire C2 and turned up to be a dissapointment & burnt the LED using RCR123. Not once but twice!! Lucky DX agreed to replace on both instances, & I asked for upgrading to a real thrower...Aurora WF600 Q5 -2Mode multi voltage -USD39.20

Received on Saturday as a replacement to the defective Ultrafire C2

& since last Saturday, I hv tested & compare wth my existing Fenix p3d Q5. And it's an awesome WOW!

Too bad my outdoor nite photos are no good & thus I only posted the one indoor here...On the left is fenix P3D Q5 (Turbo mode) & on the right is Aurora WF600 using 2 RCR123 ..The wow factor is not so apparent on indoor shoot, nevertheless, the intense hotspot beam from Aurora definitely blinding!

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On the outdoor shoot (Will try later), the beam shined the trees opposite the lake where I stood & it's>400M away!! (Measured using Garmin Mapsource) Fenix only travelled 1/4 of the lenght!!
My rough estimate, it's >4 times brighter than Fenix P3D Q5 Turbo mode!! Even on low mode, it's 2 times brighter than Fenix......BTW...it's running cooler than Fenix & The HAIII coating & thickness of the tube is much better than Fenix

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am new here. registered just because i come across this thread. didn't knew there so many flashlight fanatic here. i'm not a collector but i like flashlight and have some. below are my list of flashlight, sorry no photo at this moment;

1. Surefire M2 + KL3 head
2. Surefire C3
3. Surefire G2Z
4. G&P R500 Scorpion
5. Streamlight Scorpion
6. Maglite Solitaire
7. Maglite 2AAA
8. Maglite 2AA
9. Maglite 6C
10 Inova X1
11 Jetbeam CL-E Ver 2
12 Fenix T1
13 Nitecore Defender Infinity
14 Glo-toob FX
15 Tiablo A9 (waiting delivery)

Nexro, message me your number. I would like to know what's available now with you and also handsomeboy, would like to see the Fenix TK-10. thanks

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Striderman,
I don't have the Fenix TK-10. Not really impressed by it. Waiting for some other inovations from Fenix.

I have some older models... check out the links on my siggy.

Jetbeam latest IBS lights will be arriving soon. Contact me if you want any smile.gif
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hey guys, I wanna ask a question. Is surefire better or fenix is better? Because both are quite comparable right? Or comparing brand isnt suitable but rather on each type and series?

U see, I am a guy which is very hard to please. As I constantly looking for the brightest torchlight available. But nothing impress me. Any other brand?

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It depends on better in what sense.
If you're hard to please, get a Surefire. You pay a premium and you can complain as much as you can if anything goes wrong.

Brightest? Hmm... get the Surefire Beast II smile.gif
It's currently on show at PWTC till Thursday. Maybe you should head on over to buy it...

If you want anything really bright, it's definately a HID light. No need to look at LED or Incans.
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Googled Surefire Beast II...& shocking.gif shocking.gif rclxub.gif it's 2000Lumen HID + Led light & carried a poricetag>USD 4,000!!! rclxub.gif shocking.gif


Anyway, Tonite done another outdoor testing comparing the 215Lumen/3920 lux Fenix P3D Q5 Premium wth my new Aurora WF600 Q5 (No rating yet..some says >20,000LUx shocking.gif ):

1st shot: Fenix P3D on turbo mode:
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2nd shot Aurora WF600 on highest mode..Check the batman ray towards the banner 200M away (& yes it is confirmed from the loication I stood to the banner is 200M!:

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QUOTE(nexro @ Apr 23 2008, 07:19 PM)
Brightest? Hmm... get the Surefire Beast II smile.gif
It's currently on show at PWTC till Thursday. Maybe you should head on over to buy it...

If you want anything really bright, it's definately a HID light. No need to look at LED or Incans.
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can't really tell from the pics which is brighter cause you used a different exposure setting on your digicam tongue.gif
The Fenix one looks brighter because it was exposed longer...


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Huh? Not into photography..so dunno what exposure used..What I know I set to nite exposure ..so both should be the same kua?
Anyway, just to sumarise the diff between Aurora & Fenix...Aurora have a dimmer spill & smaller focussed Hotspot comapre to Fenix. Fenis is having a brighter spill & bigger but not so bright hotspot compare to Aurora....Thus you can see wider spread on Fenix but cannot goes far....Aurora does suprise me. BTW, there is another review in CPF on this Aurora..someone comapre it wth 2 giant throwers i.e DBS & Raid fire!! Both throwers are rated >24000 LUX so I'm guessing this Aurora is about 20,000K Lux compare to Fenix at 3900Lux only.. hmm.gif

Probably will be interested wth SSC P7 Romisen nxt.. biggrin.gif drool.gif ..Too bad it's a 18650 light...I dun hv such battery!! sad.gif

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can't really tell from the pics which is brighter cause you used a different exposure setting on your digicam tongue.gif
The Fenix one looks brighter because it was exposed longer...
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Received two Romisen RC-N3's. One had a really white tint. The other had a greenish tint. This is a really good light for the money. It appears to be of similar brightness to my NiteCore Defender Infinity. Haven't compared it extensively yet.
A lot of my mates (non-flashaholics) want one considering the price so I'm gonna order a whole lot more.

Oh and I also got a ZebraLight H30-Q5 headlight. It's a fine specimen of light. The only downside is mine had a slightly purplish tint. Would be fun to take this for caving.

Here's some pics.

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The RC-N3 definitely seems to be "inspired" by the SureFire L1
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damn i'm so gonna get an optimus or invictus!!

finally surefire came out with something with such good specs biggrin.gif
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I'll probably wait till some reviews comes up as well as testing by CPFers before buying smile.gif
It's also a bit on the pricey side now.
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Surefire has good reputation but the thing is the selling price is KILLING, I believe Surefire is for those collectors who are really into flashlight will buy it. wub.gif

Collectors would just put the Surefire flashlight into the drawer and take it out every now and then to enjoy looking at it, and would use a cheaper flashlight for outdoor usage and day to day usage, but that is just my own thinking lah. rolleyes.gif

And another thing in Surefire is they concentrate in building a lot of flashlights that uses the CR123 batteries and not the AA or AAA batteries, this is partly due to the LED they uses need a high voltage to operate in high performance mode, and also partly they do not really target their sales into the Asia market. This is also my own thinking lah. icon_idea.gif


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Surefire has good reputation but the thing is the selling price is KILLING, I believe Surefire is for those collectors who are really into flashlight will buy it.  wub.gif

Collectors would just put the Surefire flashlight into the drawer and take it out every now and then to enjoy looking at it, and would use a cheaper flashlight for outdoor usage and day to day usage, but that is just my own thinking lah.  rolleyes.gif

And another thing in Surefire is they concentrate in building a lot of flashlights that uses the CR123 batteries and not the AA or AAA batteries, this is partly due to the LED they uses need a high voltage to operate in high performance mode, and also partly they do not really target their sales into the Asia market. This is also my own thinking lah.  icon_idea.gif
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Not entirely true. I own a few Surefires and i actually use them (indoors and outdoors). I also have Fenix and other China-made flashlights too and they do serve their purpose as well. Surefire uses CR123 simply because they have a longer shelf life (10 years), dont leak, last longer and has higher power to size capacity compared to AA.
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QUOTE(bimmer @ May 10 2008, 10:48 AM)
Not entirely true. I own a few Surefires and i actually use them (indoors and outdoors). I also have Fenix and other China-made flashlights too and they do serve their purpose as well. Surefire uses CR123 simply because they have a longer shelf life (10 years), dont leak, last longer and has higher power to size capacity compared to AA.
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Those was just my own thought and opinions tongue.gif

Will try to get a few Surefire for myself to do some comparison with the Fenix. cool2.gif
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For a collection, it really depends whether you would like to have mostly production flashlights or special runs/limited edition ones. I find that most of the time, it's the limited ones that will increase in price tongue.gif

If you collect production ones, you'll have a whole lot of lights to keep. I think just the Fenix line alone is already more than what Surefire has although Surefire has been in business much longer biggrin.gif
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actually those 'white people' can really abuse thier surefires, definately not for collection, a lot of them use their surefire daily. i'm also using my e2d for my work, dents here n there after dropping it a few times.

I'll have a look at the optimus during the surefire party and see how it goes, but based on the specs i think confirm i'll get one for my job tongue.gif


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For a collection, it really depends whether you would like to have mostly production flashlights or special runs/limited edition ones. I find that most of the time, it's the limited ones that will increase in price tongue.gif

If you collect production ones, you'll have a whole lot of lights to keep. I think just the Fenix line alone is already more than what Surefire has although Surefire has been in business much longer biggrin.gif
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Talk about the product line of Surefire and Fenix, I have done some calculation at their website, the conclusion are:

Surefire - click
total models available = 43

Fenix - click
total models available = 12

I might counted wrongly. tongue.gif
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A surefire does not cost very much to most of them. I mean if they earn like USD 2000 a month, an optimus costs USD 279.
For us, it's like we earn RM 2000 a month, an optimus is like RM 900! Would you abuse your RM 900 light? tongue.gif

The thing with carrying an expensive light to work is, you'll get very worried when one of your collegues or other people borrow the light away. I usually carry another cheaper one to borrow to others biggrin.gif


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Talk about the product line of Surefire and Fenix, I have done some calculation at their website, the conclusion are:

Surefire - click
total models available = 43

Fenix - click
total models available = 12

I might counted wrongly.  tongue.gif
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You're only counting the newer ones... Surefire has pretty old lights listed too, but they also have many older ones unlisted.

Fenix ones, just to name a few that was mass produced:
L1+ (the very first Fenix light)
L1P
L1P v2
L1S
L1T
L1T v2
L2P
L2S
L2T
E0
E1
P1
Civictor V1
Civictor SS

these are the ones I can think of at the moment... but come to think of it, maybe surefire has more? tongue.gif
but Fenix has achieved so many lights in such a short time span. I still have my L1+ smile.gif

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QUOTE(nexro @ May 10 2008, 11:20 PM)
A surefire does not cost very much to most of them. I mean if they earn like USD 2000 a month, an optimus costs USD 279.
For us, it's like we earn RM 2000 a month, an optimus is like RM 900! Would you abuse your RM 900 light? tongue.gif

The thing with carrying an expensive light to work is, you'll get very worried when one of your collegues or other people borrow the light away. I usually carry another cheaper one to borrow to others biggrin.gif
yea hate it when that happens, they just refuse to buy a flashlight knowing they'll need one, always pinjam and when i need it i've to pinjam from other people vmad.gif


Added on May 11, 2008, 10:47 amhow do you compare the brightness between surefire n fenix?
since they measure their lumens differently

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you do a ceiling bounce test and you read the reviews since many reviewers have the "light box" now smile.gif
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wave.gif, i'm new here... just bought Fenix P3D Premium Q5 from justin thumbup.gif

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i love this flashlight man... even better than the-one-bought-from-Jusco, brand - Nishica @RM59.90 tongue.gif
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wave.gif, i'm new here... just bought Fenix P3D Premium Q5 from justin thumbup.gif

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i love this flashlight man... even better than the-one-bought-from-Jusco, brand - Nishica @RM59.90 tongue.gif
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Great to hear that you love the P3D.

For all the FlashLights enthusiasts out there, just want to let you know you can buy Energizer CR123 batteries at almost all the Watson shops, it cost around 11.90 to 12.50 only. cool2.gif

And sniper69 can try this:
Switch ON your P3D Q5 and then stand beside your car, after that turn ON/OFF your car head light and then do comparisons.
You will know the difference. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

Condition: Your car does not use the HID kind of head lights. wink.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ May 24 2008, 06:19 PM)

For all the FlashLights enthusiasts out there, just want to let you know you can buy Energizer CR123 batteries at almost all the Watson shops, it cost around 11.90 to 12.50 only.  cool2.gif
Thanx for the tip. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ May 24 2008, 06:19 PM)
Great to hear that you love the P3D.

For all the FlashLights enthusiasts out there, just want to let you know you can buy Energizer CR123 batteries at almost all the Watson shops, it cost around 11.90 to 12.50 only.  cool2.gif

And sniper69 can try this:
Switch ON your P3D Q5 and then stand beside your car, after that turn ON/OFF your car head light and then do comparisons.
You will know the difference.  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif

Condition: Your car does not use the HID kind of head lights.  wink.gif
yea, i actually bought those CR123 from Watson icon_idea.gif, eh btw... i found (online actually) some of those batteries comes with 1000mA, 2000mA, 3000mA... tried to find other store... no luck, the higher A, the longer aight? for sure more expensive icon_idea.gif
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if u peeps dont mind me asking...

im looking for a reliable torch which is small and reliable enough to carry around in my jacket pocket. what would you recommend? im confused and its giving me a headache trying to figure out what type i should loook at....

before u all start suggesting away... i dont need a super fancy torch that can permanently blind a person 1km away tongue.gif

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if u peeps dont mind me asking...

im looking for a reliable torch which is small and reliable enough to carry around in my jacket pocket. what would you recommend? im confused and its giving me a headache trying to figure out what type i should loook at....

before u all start suggesting away... i dont need a super fancy torch that can permanently blind a person 1km away tongue.gif
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You can always search in the youtube.com for all the flashlights BIG brands such as the Maglite, Surefire, Fenix.
Youtube.com have all the comparison and comments, with that you can decide for yourself which brand or model to choose. wink.gif
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is there any difference in beam light between textured and smooth reflector? unsure.gif
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alright after cracking my head for awhile on maglite surefire and fenix, ive decided to go for a fenix since the its the only brand with design that appeals to me...

now the dilemma....
Fenix L1D Cree Q5 Premium
Fenix P1D Cree Q5 Premium
Fenix P2D Cree Q5 Premium
well, based on this site anyway... > www.fenixtorch.co.uk
besides the output, and the type of batt used, can owners/ppl who have experienced playing around this 3 give me some input on this?

i dont really get what is the difference between p2d and p1d since the price on the site is the same and max output is the same....











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QUOTE(mr lappy @ May 30 2008, 03:33 PM)
now the dilemma....
Fenix L1D Cree Q5 Premium
Fenix P1D Cree Q5 Premium
Fenix P2D Cree Q5 Premium
well, based on this site anyway... > www.fenixtorch.co.uk
besides the output, and the type of batt used, can owners/ppl who have experienced playing around this 3 give me some input on this?

i dont really get what is the difference between p2d and p1d since the price on the site is the same and max output is the same....
how much your budget? because among those 2 (P1D/P2D), i might suggesting to get P3D Premium Q5 instead... icon_idea.gif tongue.gif
other than that... either P1D or P2D is a go icon_idea.gif

here's the comparison...

http://www.cpfreviews.com/compare-lights.php
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ May 30 2008, 11:56 AM)
is there any difference in beam light between textured and smooth reflector? unsure.gif
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Definately smile.gif
Smooth reflector will give you the best throw (shines far).
Textured one will give you less throw but the beam is smoother with less artifacts.

For Cree LEDs, a smooth reflector will create a lot of rings in the beam. Textured reflector will create a less ringy beam.
I personally prefer a textured reflector, usually orange peel or lightly stippled. The best ones are made by Pelican and the Mcgizmo series.

There's also TIR optics which come in a lot of new Surefire lights... but that's for you to find out tongue.gif

QUOTE(mr lappy @ May 30 2008, 03:33 PM)
alright after cracking my head for awhile on maglite surefire and fenix, ive decided to go for a fenix since the its the only brand with design that appeals to me...

now the dilemma....
Fenix L1D Cree Q5 Premium
Fenix P1D Cree Q5 Premium
Fenix P2D Cree Q5 Premium
well, based on this site anyway... > www.fenixtorch.co.uk
besides the output, and the type of batt used, can owners/ppl who have experienced playing around this 3 give me some input on this?

i dont really get what is the difference between p2d and p1d since the price on the site is the same and max output is the same....
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P1D = CR123 cell, less common but more power, RM 5 for a Tesco brand one (one of the cheapest around).
P2D = Has a reverse clickie tailcap unlike the P1D which you have to twist the head, otherwise similar operation.
P3D = 2xCR123 or Li-ion 17670, I prefer it because you still get all the Med,Low,Hi,Turbo modes with li-ion cells (rechargeble) unlike the rest. One of the smallest and brightest 2xCR123 cell light around!
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well, i excluded p3d since its using 2 batts and its a little too big for me to want to lug around my jacket... and the cells are not cheap as well....

when you said p1d and p2d is a go, what do u mean? both prices are the same on their site and im not sure which to choose...

for budget, i'd say p2d's price is pretty much on the ceiling of it already.... i'd still consider another brand that i've not come across if there are other recommendation...
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QUOTE(mr lappy @ May 30 2008, 10:07 PM)
well, i excluded p3d since its using 2 batts and its a little too big for me to want to lug around my jacket... and the cells are not cheap as well....

when you said p1d and p2d is a go, what do u mean? both prices are the same on their site and im not sure which to choose...

for budget, i'd say p2d's price is pretty much on the ceiling of it already.... i'd still consider another brand that i've not come across if there are other recommendation...
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POISON!!!! drool.gif drool.gif
quoted RM1500 from surefire malaysia

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so low price ?
where's Surefire Malaysia ?

I thought it would be at least RM 2000 tongue.gif
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i think its considered expensive,
its only USD 279 in US

no idea where surefire malaysia is but i know a few contacts,
there's a surefire party coming up
entry with a surefire, anyone going?
they'll showcase the optimus there thumbup.gif
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was just being sarcastic. during the past, it was like double the retail price in the US.

is there even a surefire malaysia?

yeap, i heard about the party organised by Tropical Equipment... but but my brightest light is not a surefire? how? tongue.gif
Is PK coming to join the party???

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Ello. I join camps rather alot so was wondering. Whats a really nice and convenient Flash Light to get? Budget around 200-250.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 3 2008, 02:48 PM)
was just being sarcastic. during the past, it was like double the retail price in the US.

is there even a surefire malaysia?

yeap, i heard about the party organised by Tropical Equipment... but but my brightest light is not a surefire? how? tongue.gif
Is PK coming to join the party???
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ai..get a surefire then!!
no PK is not joining..
but lots of new stuffs will be on show!!
imagine the beast!!
can't wait to get an optimus
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If me i will go for a budget flashlight. Normally i use it for house and outdoor. Very Handy. I am having the old model 10 watt flashlight have been using it for more than a year, no problem at all. I have drop it many times from my table cause got cats climbing on my table always push all my stuff onto the floor, so now my flashlight have lots of scratches cry.gif. I had been selling flashlights and other gadgets for almost 2 years now in Lelong and recently just started posting stuff in LYN.

Below i am selling the 12 Watt torch at RM25 each only. I am unable to tell if it's better than surfire,maglite or fenix as i don't have one to compare it to. See video and compare (The old model 10 Watt). I also have lots of other affordable flashlights (CLICK HERE). You are also welcome to drop by at my shop SS15 Subang Jaya (CLICK HERE FOR MAP) to view the collection of flashlights.


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QUOTE(BlueBerry~ @ Jun 5 2008, 08:05 PM)
Ello. I join camps rather alot so was wondering. Whats a really nice and convenient Flash Light to get? Budget around 200-250.
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would you prefer long runtimes or brightness is more important?
most of my buyers who went camping stated that the lights I sell are too bright for camp use tongue.gif
anyhow, with all these new lights where you can set the brightness level, that's not really a problem now.

QUOTE(achcmy @ Jun 5 2008, 11:10 PM)
I'm looking for JetBeam torch. Anyone know where can i buy those in Malaysia?
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from me!
the latest ones will be arriving soon...

QUOTE(XP750 @ Jun 6 2008, 04:21 AM)
ai..get a surefire then!!
no PK is not joining..
but lots of new stuffs will be on show!!
imagine the beast!!
can't wait to get an optimus
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aiyo, if PK coming, sure everyone will get a door gift usually a surefire light... hehe.
already have a surefire... it's my bedside light tongue.gif
what new stuff? I thought most of it was already shown at the Defense Expo at PWTC a few weeks back.

The Beast is nice... but it uses 20xCR123 cells!?!?!?! doh.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 6 2008, 09:24 PM)
would you prefer long runtimes or brightness is more important?
most of my buyers who went camping stated that the lights I sell are too bright for camp use tongue.gif
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Hmm. In between the two. Cant be too bright but need to have long runtimes. What do you recommend?
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Hmm. In between the two. Cant be too bright but need to have long runtimes. What do you recommend?
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Probably one of the 2xAA cell Fenixs'.
Fenix L2D for instance, should fit the bill nicely.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 7 2008, 10:03 AM)
Probably one of the 2xAA cell Fenixs'.
Fenix L2D for instance, should fit the bill nicely.
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Any photos?
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Metalzone is selling one here: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=706899&hl=cree

or you could look in the Fenix bulk purchase in the Bulk Orders forum.
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somebody can tell me, hav how many brand of flash lights are available in malaysia or lyn ??
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Surefire,Maglite,Fenix,Wolf-eyes,Cree and Liteflux are some i can remember!
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jun 8 2008, 12:34 PM)
Surefire,Maglite,Fenix,Wolf-eyes,Cree and Liteflux are some i can remember!
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which brand better?? and where can i find those brand flashlights??
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It depends on personal preference as they are all good!

Check the bulk sections on here!


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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 6 2008, 09:24 PM)

aiyo, if PK coming, sure everyone will get a door gift usually a surefire light... hehe.
already have a surefire... it's my bedside light tongue.gif
what new stuff? I thought most of it was already shown at the Defense Expo at PWTC a few weeks back.

The Beast is nice... but it uses 20xCR123 cells!?!?!?!  doh.gif
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haha some of them really eat batteries,
maybe we'll get to see some member's "assets" during the party brows.gif
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jun 8 2008, 01:25 PM)
It depends on personal preference as they are all good!

Check the bulk sections on here!
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where is the bulk section ???
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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:53 PM)
haha some of them really eat batteries,
maybe we'll get to see some member's "assets" during the party brows.gif
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can only bring surefire wor doh.gif rolleyes.gif
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where hav sell surefire flash lights??


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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 8 2008, 06:38 PM)
can only bring surefire wor  doh.gif  rolleyes.gif
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WoW, got this kind of party ar?

Where is the venue? Please kindly give some more details for it.

I would also want to organize a Fenix party of my own..... tongue.gif
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wave.gif me want... me want... brows.gif, now poisoning all my relative to get Fenix flashlights whistling.gif, i still remember one of my relative was like... doh.gif when told the price... sweat.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Jun 8 2008, 10:04 PM)
WoW, got this kind of party ar?

Where is the venue? Please kindly give some more details for it.

I would also want to organize a Fenix party of my own.....  tongue.gif
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Surefire party... i dunno where. only heard of it and it's entry with a surefire light.
I think better ask XP750 tongue.gif

If got Fenix party, kindly let me know... laugh.gif
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then no problem
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SUREFIRE APPRECIATION NIGHT 2008

VENUE : SANOOK BISTRO, PLAZA KELANA JAYA (BEHIND KELANA
SEAFOOD)
DATE : 20th June, 2008 (Friday)
TIME : 7:00 PM
ENTRY : Admission by flashing your Surefire Flashlight
F&B : Refreshments provided

Activity : Showcase of new Surefire products
: Introduction of Surefire Dealers in Malaysia
: Early Bird Goodie Bag
: E1B-Backup Draw
: and other surprises .....

Please register to assist in our preparation for your party.
just shine your surefire into his face for an entry tongue.gif

the party is organized by surefire malaysia,
i also didn't know they existed untill i bumped into thier staffs when i was checking out thier lights at mid valley,
luckily i was carrying my surefire that time rclxms.gif

is there a fenix malaysia?
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QUOTE(XP750 @ Jun 9 2008, 01:44 PM)
SUREFIRE APPRECIATION NIGHT 2008

VENUE : SANOOK BISTRO, PLAZA KELANA JAYA (BEHIND KELANA
SEAFOOD)
DATE : 20th June, 2008 (Friday)
TIME : 7:00 PM
ENTRY : Admission by flashing your Surefire Flashlight
F&B : Refreshments provided

Activity : Showcase of new Surefire products
: Introduction of Surefire Dealers in Malaysia
: Early Bird Goodie Bag
: E1B-Backup Draw
: and other surprises .....

Please register to assist in our preparation for your party.
just shine your surefire into his face for an entry tongue.gif

the party is organized by surefire malaysia,
i also didn't know they existed untill i bumped into thier staffs when i was checking out thier lights at mid valley,
luckily i was carrying my surefire that time  rclxms.gif

is there a fenix malaysia?
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20th June, not far from now.
I think I will go there to have a look and try to observe and learn how they organize the party.
I might learn some lessons and apply it to myself and maybe modified a bit by hiring some Pretty Show Girls so that you can shine some lights to their sexy body ? drool.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Jun 9 2008, 02:36 PM)
20th June, not far from now.
I think I will go there to have a look and try to observe and learn how they organize the party.
I might learn some lessons and apply it to myself and maybe modified a bit by hiring some Pretty Show Girls so that you can shine some lights to their sexy body ?  drool.gif
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hahaha lol! yea those are a must!
so u coming?
remember to shine your surefire!
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surefire only?? if i know earlier..can borrow from my friend (he outstation until end this month)..

off topic: saw few brands at ace hardware midvalley. surefire..philips..energizer..n few others. if i remember correctly..g2 surefire (non-led) is about below rm200 n led version rm 300++...is it within reasonable price?
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rioven,
Reasonable or not, it's up to the potential buyer to decide.
Sellers have the right to put up any price they want smile.gif

In US, if I remember correctly, the G2 is USD 35 and the G2 LED is USD 65.
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hi just now get the L2D


how to switch ,12 lumen ,53 lumen ,107 lumens ?
i know turbo mode is pusing the head sampai habis

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QUOTE(zonlee @ Jun 13 2008, 10:31 AM)
hi just now get the L2D
how to switch ,12 lumen ,53 lumen ,107 lumens ?
i know turbo mode is pusing the head sampai habis
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Hi bro,

You just need to loosen the head a bit (just a little bit), turn ON the flashlight and then softly press the tailcap (like pressing the camera button) to change mode.

You will know what I mean after you try it. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(justin78 @ Jun 13 2008, 11:37 AM)
Hi bro,

You just need to loosen the head a bit (just a little bit), turn ON the flashlight and then softly press the tailcap (like pressing the camera button) to change mode.

You will know what I mean after you try it.  thumbup.gif
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oh ya
get it


change the mode
press tailcap ( is not fully press, is softly press )
there is 4 modes
the last one is strobe , other got low, medium and high

thanks


when turn on turbo mode
i can hear the charging sound


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Hey flashoholics,
For those who use CR123A as their power source, get them at bulk at this local website (they sell overseas too...)

http://www.sabahoceanic.com/epages/sabahoc...oducts/14066003

Since these little buggers have a shelf life of 10 years, its relatively safe to keep em' somewhere nice and cool before using them. They've increased their price a bit for CR123A to RM9 per piece (1 single CR123A battery) but its still a good price than buying it retail at the Photo shop, etc !

Note their price is fixed in US dollars and you need still need to pay shipping fee even though the office is in Amcorp Mall!

Portable Power Technology Sdn Bhd [692112-D]
Suite 11.05, Level 11, Amcorp Tower
No. 18, Jalan Persiaran Barat, 46050 Petaling Jaya
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Tel: 603-7954 0355, Fax: 603-7957 0355
Email: sales@sabahoceanic.com

I bought like 40 pieces of CR123A last year (RM7 per piece before price hike) plus other odd batteries for my evil experiments (kidding) and cost of shipping was only RM5. I did call them if they can waiver the shipping cost if I showed up in their office to pick up my order but that was not possible...fortunately it took less than 10 hrs before a beaten up box showed up in my office. All batteries were new though with expiry date of 2017.

Help keep them alive since the guy on the phone was very helpful, answered all of my questions and service delivery was super fast. BTW, this company has been around from ages but its been a while since they started doing e-commerce using the intertubes...

Some help.... I wanna upgrade my Inova to some SureFires... where can I get reasonably good prices to get them here locally? I've got 2 models worth my moolah to equip...

Why CR123A instead of AA/AAA? Better runtime, bigger capacity, and provides up to 90% energy before exploding (unlike AA/AAA batteries where they slowly lose their power and the lamp goes dimmer, dimmer, dimmer....). I'm kidding on the exploding part.

And AA/AAA leak like the titanic if you don't use them for more than 6 months. My old black Maglite is permanently melted with 2 AAs inside because I didn't use or change them frequently enough. Bass de tard.

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CR123 so rare
not easy to find

and the usage not so common


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QUOTE(zonlee @ Jun 13 2008, 04:22 PM)
CR123 so rare
not easy to find

and the usage not so common
doh.gif rare? any photo shop, Watson's sure got... and the usage? used widely in digital photograph -- old digicamera got IIANM...
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doh.gif rare? any photo shop, Watson's sure got... and the usage? used widely in digital photograph -- old digicamera got IIANM...
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oic

should be used on high end camera i think

because i use cheap cheap camera which is running AA battery biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

now common camera using their own designed battery

that 123 batter really never see before

i know this model
since i read this touch light thread


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CR123 is not common... and mostly expensive. But now, you can get Tesco branded ones for RM 5 each.

Also, lithium and li-ion batteries do leak too! Just don't leave your batteries in any electronic device if you don't plan to use it for a long time.

Personally, I use rechargeble CR123s smile.gif
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I would say the CR123A are more likely to explode than leak, so best buy the reputable brands.

Still, CR123A are way much better than AA/AAA any day...
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QUOTE(pedro @ Jun 8 2008, 11:34 AM)
Surefire,Maglite,Fenix,Wolf-eyes,Cree and Liteflux are some i can remember!
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Ive heard of the name olight (www.olightworld.com) but dont know much of their torches.

Anyone have experience with olight?

what about Inova (spelling?) ? I would like to know more of these other brands.


Added on June 15, 2008, 12:50 pmIm new to torchlights but am learning.
Reading this thread, favourites seem to be Fenix and Surefire (if not for the hefty price tag). How does other LED torchlights compared to these two, (eg the olight compared to say fenix, etc...) ?

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Look for some reviews online for particular models smile.gif

Inova's you can try them out at Ace Hardware or any shops that carry it. In KK, there's a shop carrying them but I don't remember the name. The shop is located in a shopping mall... which again, I don't remember the name tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 16 2008, 09:23 AM)
Look for some reviews online for particular models smile.gif

Inova's you can try them out at Ace Hardware or any shops that carry it. In KK, there's a shop carrying them but I don't remember the name. The shop is located in a shopping mall... which again, I don't remember the name tongue.gif
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hey thanks nexro. Thanks for the info. I think I'll try and survey around shopping malls in KK. Appreciate it.

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wow...din realise got so much things to learn about torch......all i have is free LED torch from Castrol....
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I went jalan2 at a pasar malam in KK last nite and saw a hawker selling torchlights. Fiddling around with the torches/flashlights. I asked for the most powerful he has. He showed me the Police 15W (IIRC). I tried it but was not impressed tongue.gif . Cost rm60. But I have to say that that torchlight came with a nice black giftbox.

Im still looking/surveying around KK wanting to test & see "high-end" torchlights. Belum jumpa lagi sad.gif

BTW, have you guys read the coming Cree's XLamp MC-E LED specs?
At @350mA, its ~2x the light output of current XR-E Q5. At 700mA, its ~4x ie (456 lm @ 350mA & 790 lm @ 700mA) shocking.gif
http://www.cree.com/products/pdf/XLamp_MCE_cutsheet.pdf

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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 13 2008, 06:01 PM)
CR123 is not common... and mostly expensive. But now, you can get Tesco branded ones for RM 5 each.

Also, lithium and li-ion batteries do leak too! Just don't leave your  batteries in any electronic device if you don't plan to use it for a long time.

Personally, I use rechargeble CR123s smile.gif
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nexro.. which tesco did u go to.. that u see cr123a battery for rm5? i wanna get it too..
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Hi everyone, I'm new to flashlight here, used to own those big Eveready torchlight, until I bought myself a Fenix flashlight, fell in love to it instantly, small and bright! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(pac1 @ Jun 17 2008, 09:15 PM)
Hi everyone, I'm new to flashlight here, used to own those big Eveready torchlight, until I bought myself a Fenix flashlight, fell in love to it instantly, small and bright! rclxm9.gif
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Nice...
I here see there's many Fenix users here in Lowyat. smile.gif
Anyone using Olight? How do you like it? Its quite similar to Fenix.

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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Jun 17 2008, 05:06 PM)
nexro.. which tesco did u go to.. that u see cr123a battery for rm5? i wanna get it too..
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tesco extra, cheras.
it should be available in all tesco stores i think smile.gif
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oh reallly... wow i love tesco now...

i like the new surefire e2l outdoorman ... 60 lumens.. I like the e2l defender as well but i hate the scalloped tail cap.. if only they have a normal tail cap in black..sighh..

hey nexro if u go to tesco cheras again just snap a picuture of the cr123a for me ? for reference purposes if tesco selayang doesnt have it..

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which flashlight is your favourite, ie say if you have to just choose one... which flashlight would that be? and why?

/me still learning about flashlights
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jun 21 2008, 09:15 AM)
which flashlight is your favourite, ie say if you have to just choose one... which flashlight would that be? and why?

/me still learning about flashlights
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Without a doubt its a Surefire! But which one is tricky. I'll probably go for an Ultra U2 or Kroma. smile.gif
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surefire definitely... try to get the hard anodise type 3 range... they cannot be stratched easily...
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Can anyone tell me where to buy the lubricant for the o-rings? smile.gif
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Can anyone tell me where to buy the lubricant for the o-rings? smile.gif
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look for the silicon type from plumbing shops or Ace Hardware.
In Ace, it's about RM 6.90 when I bought it 2 years ago. Still have a lot left.

Don't use any petroleum based ones on the o-rings.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 22 2008, 08:48 AM)
look for the silicon type from plumbing shops or Ace Hardware.
In Ace, it's about RM 6.90 when I bought it 2 years ago. Still have a lot left.

Don't use any petroleum based ones on the o-rings.
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Thank you, will go search for it at hardware and plumbing shops. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jun 22 2008, 08:48 AM)
look for the silicon type from plumbing shops or Ace Hardware.
In Ace, it's about RM 6.90 when I bought it 2 years ago. Still have a lot left.

Don't use any petroleum based ones on the o-rings.
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oh why cant we used petroluem jelly? whats the difference from silicon based ones?
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Which flashlight would be suitable for jungle trekking use? Need some recommendations. Preferbly < $200
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Hi guys,
Heard about the new NiteCore D10 & EX10 lights from EdgeTac?
Here's the review
Introducing the NiteCore Smart PD System !! <<-- Click there

Look hot drool.gif rclxms.gif

Im thinking of doing bulk order, anyone interested?
(BTW, I do not have previous experience in doing bulk order here in lowyat. sad.gif )

What do you think? Nice lil' light huh? smile.gif


Added on June 25, 2008, 1:15 pmbtw, does anybody know whether ordering flashlights from China/world will be taxed? If so, how much is the rate? tq.

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Hi Guys,

New kid on the block here - just joined. I'm also into flashlights and I can see that there's quite a following here. The hallways in MYCPF has been pretty quiet as of late, so intend to stick around here for a bit and catch up on what's the latest in the Malaysian flashlight scene.

Cheers,
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how to change my fenix rubber switch??

they come with a spare rubber switch right?.. how to change it??
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QUOTE(alantch @ Jun 25 2008, 04:46 PM)
New kid on the block here - just joined. I'm also into flashlights and I can see that there's quite a following here. The hallways in MYCPF has been pretty quiet as of late, so intend to stick around here for a bit and catch up on what's the latest in the Malaysian flashlight scene.
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what's MYCPF ?
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how to change my fenix rubber switch??

they come with a spare rubber switch right?.. how to change it??
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Inside the tailcap, next to the spring, there's two small holes, using some needle nose pliers or forceps, stick into those holes and unscrew the retaining ring. Remove all of the insides carefully and eventually, the rubber boot comes out. Change it and put everything back the same exact way it came out, screw the retaining ring back in and you're done! icon_rolleyes.gif


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MYCPF is the Darkside - once you get in you can never get out. The drug is flashlights and there's no cure for it. Think hard before you take the plunge; be prepared to lose all your money; your friends will think you're crazy; you loved ones will leave you biggrin.gif

http://s3.invisionfree.com/MY_CPF/

Hope to see you there - at least I'll have another kaki lampu suluh from the East in there.

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Anyone can recommend a good budget torch ?

P3D Q5 is 215 lumens and have a run time of 1.5hours in Turbo mode while
the TK10 225 lumes and run time of 1 hours only ?

P3D is a too small in my opinion , is there any other better torch within the price range of let say three to four hundred ?
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Jun 26 2008, 02:46 PM)
Anyone can recommend a good budget torch ?

P3D Q5 is 215 lumens and have a run time of 1.5hours in Turbo mode while
the TK10 225 lumes and run time of 1 hours only ?

P3D is a too small in my opinion , is there any other better torch within the price range of let say three to four hundred ?
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Wow, bro, I think 3 to 4 hundred is no more budget flashlight anymore, at least to me. sweat.gif
I own a L1D Q5 and it serves me very well, pocketable and bright enough for me, though only 120 lumens. What's the best of it that I like is that it only uses 1 AA battery. rclxm9.gif Or you can opt for L2D Q5 which takes 2 AA batteries, higher lumens, longer run time and longer in dimension also! laugh.gif
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Hi all flashlight lovers out there,

Check this out - the latest model by Fenix --- TK11

This is the 1st flashlight from Fenix that can be powered by the rechargeable 18650 battery.

The out look is very similar to the previous flagship TK10.

Check it out guys:

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TK11, TK10... if comparing with P3D, in my POV... apart from performance, P3D for sleek design while those TK10/TK11 more like adventurous, IMO... i'd like one of those TK10 or TK11, but too bad (IINM), it only featuring 2 modes -- General (60 lumens@10 hours) and Turbo-Mode (225 lumens@1.5 hours), unlike the P3D Premium Q5 is 2 base mode with 6 selective; low (12 lumens@65 hours) -- medium (53 lumens@13 hours) -- high (120 lumens@4.8 hours) + S.O.S and another Turbo mode (215 lumens@1.5 hours).

the best part of this Fenix TK10/TK11 is the range, wow... whopping 200m, i really wanted to see the actual, eh... justin... can get a real picture of the 200m kaa? brows.gif whistling.gif
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So, did anyone attend the Surefire party last Friday night? Updates or pics would be good here.
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Hey guys, I'm quite interested in flashlights ever since i got myself a cheap 9-LED police brand flashlight. i'm looking for something small yet bright and affordable. something along the lines of the Fenix P1? or any better suggestions would be greatly appreciated smile.gif
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QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jun 25 2008, 12:57 PM)
Hi guys,
Heard about the new NiteCore D10 & EX10 lights from EdgeTac?
Here's the review
Introducing the NiteCore Smart PD System !! <<-- Click there

Look hot  drool.gif  rclxms.gif

Im thinking of doing bulk order, anyone interested?
(BTW, I do not have previous experience in doing bulk order here in lowyat.  sad.gif )

What do you think? Nice lil' light huh?  smile.gif


Added on June 25, 2008, 1:15 pmbtw, does anybody know whether ordering flashlights from China/world will be taxed? If so, how much is the rate? tq.
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how much is the nitecore?
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D10 and EX10 is around $55 - $59.
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A proud owner of Fenix TK-11 here.

Its huge and heavy (you can whack people's head with it. In the name of self defence of course)

Spent last night beaming across apartments about 100 meters away.

Wish we can have a more active forum on flash light here for Malaysian like the CPF.

is the MYCPF mentioned still active? can't access it from my office though. Dunno if the web pages still there.

Getting Surefire Ls next~!

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QUOTE(kdrocks @ Jul 2 2008, 07:59 AM)
A proud owner of Fenix TK-11 here.

Its huge and heavy (you can whack people's head with it. In the name of self defence of course)

Spent last night beaming across apartments about 100 meters away.

Wish we can have a more active forum on flash light here for Malaysian like the CPF. 

is the MYCPF mentioned still active? can't access it from my office though. Dunno if the web pages still there.

Getting Surefire Ls next~!

kdrocks
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YOH YOH YOH!

I can confirm you (kdrocks) are the 1st person in Malaysia to own a TK11.

The second person owning the TK11 is hushymushy.

So officially on 1-7-2008, you both are the first 2 to own the Fenix TK11. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Jul 2 2008, 09:57 AM)
YOH YOH YOH!

I can confirm you (kdrocks) are the 1st person in Malaysia to own a TK11.

The second person owning the TK11 is hushymushy.

So officially on 1-7-2008, you both are the first 2 to own the Fenix TK11.  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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Yeah~yeah~! rclxm9.gif

Loving everybit of the light now.

Having it in holster on my pants icon_rolleyes.gif

Gonna carrry it where ever i go. Including restrooms. Who knows electricty might go out. Then I can't do 'business' in the dark. brows.gif


Guys, any ideas for a decent nicer looking holster?

Thnking of Victorinox Swiss Army cases but unsure if there's any that fits the humongous light.

Ideas?



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just got my L2D. It makes a whiney sound at full mode. Normal?
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QUOTE(slash @ Jul 3 2008, 10:28 PM)
just got my L2D. It makes a whiney sound at full mode. Normal?
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I'm not sure if its normal or not, but my L2D got sound also in turbo mode! sweat.gif
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QUOTE(slash @ Jul 3 2008, 10:28 PM)
just got my L2D. It makes a whiney sound at full mode. Normal?
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QUOTE(pac1 @ Jul 4 2008, 12:07 PM)
I'm not sure if its normal or not, but my L2D got sound also in turbo mode! sweat.gif
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I was inform by the manufacturer - Fenix, that the sound is coming from the capacitor where it will produce while it is Charging and Discharging.

It is unavoidable and it is definitely normal.

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QUOTE(slash @ Jul 3 2008, 10:28 PM)
just got my L2D. It makes a whiney sound at full mode. Normal?
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It's normal... but it's not loud right?
Most lights with inductors have some sort of humming sound at certain 'level'. Even Surefires' namely the L1 and L2.

It's actually the inductor humming.
Capacitors don't hum, they go boom! tongue.gif
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i would like to know, who here sell the Nitecore Defender Infinity..??

i would to know the price... and probably purchase one...
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Guys, I need help. I'm a frequent boater and tend to go out to sea quite often. I'd like to get a flashright, in case of emergency situations. Not something overly big.

Could you guys recommend me a flash right with good throw and a small concentrated beam? The brighter and more range better. Budget 400++.
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QUOTE(makuyo @ Jul 9 2008, 08:43 PM)
i would like to know, who here sell the Nitecore Defender Infinity..??

i would to know the price... and probably purchase one...
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I don't carry the NDI but will soon have the Nitecore D10 and EX10.
NDI is about USD 74 while the D10 and EX10 is about USD 55.

QUOTE(taingonghai @ Jul 10 2008, 06:50 PM)
Guys, I need help. I'm a frequent boater and tend to go out to sea quite often. I'd like to get a flashright, in case of emergency situations. Not something overly big.

Could you guys recommend me a flash right with good throw and a small concentrated beam? The brighter and more range better. Budget 400++.
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Get a MagLED... tongue.gif
Just kidding...

For such a high budget, you could probably get one of the Pelicans or UKE lights. Which model, I'm not sure, but do check out their website for the line of lights they carry.
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QUOTE(taingonghai @ Jul 10 2008, 06:50 PM)
Guys, I need help. I'm a frequent boater and tend to go out to sea quite often. I'd like to get a flashright, in case of emergency situations. Not something overly big.

Could you guys recommend me a flash right with good throw and a small concentrated beam? The brighter and more range better. Budget 400++.
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well u can get Pelican flashlight, the underwater range. the underwater range Recoil LED is only around 30-40 lumens for the hand size range. if ur budget is rm400 ++ why dont u get a surefire, it can be submerge but not use for diving.

If u want the more brighter and smaller lights from Pelican u can opt for the tactical range but its only water resistance. Pelican light which are water resistance are sucky because a little bit of submerging water tends to enter.. I dont even face that problem with my maglite 2AA...

i think the surefire would fit u best or u can get a fenix one... ask nexro about fenix. I onwn 2 pelican lights which is the mitylite 3N LED (which is not in production anymore) and the Pelican M6 LED ( which has a sucky battery life)
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If you tend to drop your lights into the water, I'd recommend one of the lights that will actually float smile.gif

If not, it's byebye RM 400 tongue.gif
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[quote=nexro,Jul 11 2008, 09:16 AM]
I don't carry the NDI but will soon have the Nitecore D10 and EX10.
NDI is about USD 74 while the D10 and EX10 is about USD 55.


err.. im kinda interested in that too.. watch the demo klip edi... i like the one which uses the AA battery...

may i know the price in RM.. i think i'll buy one from u...
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Guys, thanks for the recommendation, but I''m not looking for underwater lights. Just need a compact light with good throw incase of man overboard situations or distance signalling. I got caught out once, boat ran out of fuel about 45nautical miles off shore.

Fenix TK-11 a good choice for my application? Anything with focused beam upto 150 - 200 m is good. How about INOVA lights? A marine police guy recommended me this brand.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jul 11 2008, 09:16 AM)
I don't carry the NDI but will soon have the Nitecore D10 and EX10.
NDI is about USD 74 while the D10 and EX10 is about USD 55.
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I think NDI is ~ USD79.00 (taken from 4sevens.com) smile.gif
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QUOTE(taingonghai @ Jul 12 2008, 01:05 PM)
Guys, thanks for the recommendation, but I''m not looking for underwater lights. Just need a compact light with good throw incase of man overboard situations or distance signalling. I got caught out once, boat ran out of fuel about 45nautical miles off shore.

Fenix TK-11 a good choice for my application? Anything with focused beam upto 150 - 200 m is good. How about INOVA lights? A marine police guy recommended me this brand.
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i am not sure about the signalling distane for inova, but i reckon should be a mile . well fenix is an okay brand yet functional and perform wise with a good price ratio. i think it should be below rm400 if u buy a fenix.

well if u want a good brand, get the inova one. well i think surefire is still the nicest one in terms of design...
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QUOTE(seale_navy @ Jul 13 2008, 08:33 PM)
i am not sure about the signalling distane for inova, but i reckon should be a mile . well fenix is an okay brand yet functional and perform wise with a good price ratio. i think it should be below rm400 if u buy a fenix.

well if u want a good brand, get the inova one. well i think surefire is still the nicest one in terms of design...
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+1 for fenix good function to price ratio.

But I think tk11 is overdoing it when bringing it to the office. sweat.gif

Anyone here stock Nitecore extreme? nod.gif

Need something discreet with bodyclip, preferrably two stage (high-low) mode. Forward click switch (momentary on, full click constant on).

Recommendation appreciated. biggrin.gif



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[quote=makuyo,Jul 12 2008, 01:03 AM]
[quote=nexro,Jul 11 2008, 09:16 AM]
I don't carry the NDI but will soon have the Nitecore D10 and EX10.
NDI is about USD 74 while the D10 and EX10 is about USD 55.
err.. im kinda interested in that too.. watch the demo klip edi... i like the one which uses the AA battery...

may i know the price in RM.. i think i'll buy one from u...
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[/quote]

D10 or EX10 - RM 195 each inc. shipping
Just got them today... a fine light if you like it simple without features like strobe or SOS.

[quote=kdrocks,Jul 14 2008, 12:00 AM]
+1 for fenix good function to price ratio.

But I think tk11 is overdoing it when bringing it to the office. sweat.gif

Anyone here stock Nitecore extreme? nod.gif

Need something discreet with bodyclip, preferrably two stage (high-low) mode. Forward click switch (momentary on, full click constant on).

Recommendation appreciated. biggrin.gif
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[/quote]

Yeah, TK11 is a kinda huge... hehe.
I wish I could stock the Nitecore Extreme... it's too expensive. I have one on order...
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actually i like the fenix TK10...

since justin dont sell them anymore..

is there anyone who would like to sell me a TK10??

im just asking...
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jul 14 2008, 11:25 PM)
I wish I could stock the Nitecore Extreme... it's too expensive. I have one on order...
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Nexro, u have one nitecore extreme shipping your way?

Let us know (or let me know sweat.gif ) how the light fucntions.

Beamshots~beamshots! brows.gif


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QUOTE(taingonghai @ Jul 12 2008, 01:05 PM)
Just need a compact light with good throw incase of man overboard situations or distance signalling. I got caught out once, boat ran out of fuel about 45nautical miles off shore.

Fenix TK-11 a good choice for my application? Anything with focused beam upto 150 - 200 m is good.
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Need throw? the cheapest (IMHO) and farthest thrower value for money can get, IMHO would be a Fenix T-series. nod.gif

But its heavy. You may want to hook it somewhere to your belt. Or else, it falls into the sea and its a goner. sweat.gif

But do check this one out if mobility is not an issue.

Lumapower MVP

700 lumens bro~!!! THe beam shots makes my air liur meleleh.. sweat.gif and it runs on 4 lithium 123A batts.



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QUOTE(kdrocks @ Jul 15 2008, 07:20 PM)
Nexro, u have one nitecore extreme shipping your way?

Let us know (or let me know  sweat.gif  ) how the light fucntions.

Beamshots~beamshots!  brows.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 7:33 pm

Need throw? the cheapest (IMHO) and farthest thrower value for money can get, IMHO would be a Fenix T-series.  nod.gif

But its heavy. You may want to hook it somewhere to your belt. Or else, it falls into the sea and its a goner.  sweat.gif

But do check this one out if mobility is not an issue.

Lumapower MVP

700 lumens bro~!!! THe beam shots makes my air liur meleleh..  sweat.gif and it runs on 4 lithium 123A batts.
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Yeap... I hope so. I ordered one sometime ago when the priced dropped but still no news about shipping yet!
It functions the same way the NDI does... nothing spectacular tongue.gif
Only thing is, the bezel and the body can be interchanged with the Surefire E-series assemblies.

Actually, for throw, it's not really the TK10 or TK11. Check out the "thrower shootout" in CPF. There's the Raidfire Spear, Tiablo A9, Dereelight DBS, Lumapower MRV, etc. Certain ones are more expensive but some are actually on sale. Look around smile.gif
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HEY all pro's out there, i am a noooob notworthy.gif at this stuff but anyway i would like you guys to help me if you can

I am a regular traveler, most of my time i am out at night you see, some times i go to really dark places and it freaks me not to have a flashlight , my current torchlight ( a cheap eveready wan) has broke down and i find it shitty to change new torchlights constantly so i would like you guys to recommend me a good flashlight to buy , here are my specs:

1-Good brand ( preferably with warranty if can)
2-Quite bright ( able to see at least 3.5 or more meters away from the light source) rclxms.gif
3-Price- the most i will pay is 1k
4-Size of being able to fit in a pocket or easy to be carried around( as i walk most of the time)
5-Durable-must be waterproof so as shock proof as i am very clumsy sweat.gif
6-Good battery life and the batteries are easy to find when it spoils
7-LED or Bulb also can but i think LED is more cool( other new technologies can be recommended too icon_rolleyes.gif )

I hope you sifu's all can give some recommendation's to me, THANKS notworthy.gif

p/s: in the mean time can you guys also tell me where to buy this stuffs


SORRY FOR MY MISTAKES , I AM A NEWBIE HERE notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(fish@5311 @ Jul 15 2008, 09:43 PM)
I am a regular traveler, most of my time i am out at night you see, some times i go to really dark places and it freaks me not to have a flashlight , my current torchlight ( a cheap eveready wan) has broke down and i find it shitty to change new torchlights constantly  so  i would like you guys to recommend me a good flashlight to buy , here are my specs:

1-Good brand ( preferably with warranty if can)
2-Quite bright ( able to see at least 3.5 or more meters away from the light source) rclxms.gif
3-Price- the most i will pay is 1k
4-Size of being able to fit in a pocket or easy to be carried around( as i walk most of the time)
5-Durable-must be waterproof so as shock proof as i am very clumsy sweat.gif
6-Good battery life and the batteries are easy to find when it spoils
7-LED or Bulb also can but i think LED is more cool( other new technologies can be recommended too icon_rolleyes.gif )

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hi there fish~! welkam2~! rclxm9.gif

Before other sifus out there give their suggestion, given your budget of 1k ( i hope its RM/MYR because if its USD it would be better for you laugh.gif ), please see my noob suggestion icon_question.gif to your questions. May you be enlightened laugh.gif

1- Good brand
- Surefire is the best. For RM1k, you can get two of their lights which you can use as primary and backup lights. Trust me, you'd need back up.

Fore more choices, visit Surefire website. Their lights can be purchased in Ace hardware stores. (albeit over priced according to flashaholics here. Its true sweat.gif )

- Fenix, made in China but never mistaken its quality for its origin. I have one of their lights the TK-11 and its really bright. Do search in Candle Power Forums or just Google it.

2. Quite bright
- Get LED flashlights. You'll never go wrong with LED because its really damn bright. Unless you have specific requirement for using incandesecent (good ol bulb), LED is the way to go.

3. Seems price not an issue because only recently that Surefire announced their flagship Incivtus and Optimus and these can come close to RM1,500 when they release. Other brands - Inova, Fenix, Nitecore and many others, you can get 2 or 3 lights with that budget. Do more research on pricing. And again, Google.

4. TOday's flashlights are generally can be carried in pocket or comes with holster or body clip (like pen). Carrying is not an issue as they also look nice and flashy too laugh.gif

5. Durability, this depends on manufacturer and type of lights. Tactical flashlights normally have certain waterproofing standard. Just to give you a picture, I've submerged my Fenix Tk-11 in a bucket with water one feet deep and switch it on. It works. Google review for Fenix Tk10. There's few good one in Candle Power Forums.

6. Good battery life. This will depend on the product offered by manufacturer. Refer to their tech stat before deciding.

There are two type of lights that used the common type of batteries consumed today, They are:

Lithium CR123 - these are bit expensive but they have shelf life of ten years without leaking. Harder to find in shops. So you might want to carry spares in your bags.

AA - our good old battery for walkman. These comes in alkaline normally and tend to leak. But the plus side, its easy to find in shops and cheaper too.

However, modern flashlight have circuits inside that regulates power of the battery how it really works, well, do your homework. I dont really understand but all i know, no need to take out the battery because the circuit will regulate the power and it wont discharge.

7. Please see answer number 2.

I may not answer your question to choose what flashlight to get but hope can help you narrow down choices that suits your needs.

Reason being of lots of brands out there is to suit different needs of users in the market so you'll have fun choosing the brand and model.

As of getting them, except Surefires which need to be purchased from local distributor, most brands can be purchased online. Do search in LYN threads for flashlight for sale. We have few people selling good stuffs around here.

May the force of lithium and LED be with you my fellow Padawan laugh.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(nexro @ Jul 15 2008, 08:18 PM)
Yeap... I hope so. I ordered one sometime ago when the priced dropped but still no news about shipping yet!
It functions the same way the NDI does... nothing spectacular tongue.gif
Only thing is, the bezel and the body can be interchanged with the Surefire E-series assemblies.

Actually, for throw, it's not really the TK10 or TK11. Check out the "thrower shootout" in CPF. There's the Raidfire Spear, Tiablo A9, Dereelight DBS, Lumapower MRV, etc. Certain ones are more expensive but some are actually on sale. Look around smile.gif
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THe nitecore extreme part is interchangeable with surefire e-series?
Intresting. Must do more research icon_rolleyes.gif Thanks!

yeah, the Fenix T is not a real thrower but It'll serve well for the price paid.

Those real throwers you mentioned notworthy.gif , well, its gonna burn a big hole in my wallet moneyflies.gif . I might get the Lumapower MVP later just for fun.

I'm waiting for the invictus to come out and see how it performs. Pocketable/body clip-able with 400L on max, my, i just cant imagine having one.

I wonder how flashlight technology gonna be in next 5 years. We might have real light sabers.


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hello guys..it me again...
need some advice before i buy...dont wanna regret later. i have read at cpf..but my head become rclxub.gif But i manage to shortlist 3 flashlight maybe suits my taste

a) fenix pd3 q5 - likes the multiple selection of brightness..the design
b) fenix tk11 - can throw futher than q5..but lacks of brightness setting (turbo n general mode only)
c) jetbeam jet-III - again..multiple selection of brightness
d)if u can suggest different brand

im using for indoor n outdoor (sometimes)...size doesnt matter..prefer battery cr123 and/or 18650..longer battery life (if possible)..multiple selection of brightness (if possible)..btw between b n c..which one can throw futher?
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QUOTE(kdrocks @ Jul 15 2008, 11:13 PM)
hi there fish~! welkam2~!    rclxm9.gif

Before other sifus out there give their suggestion, given your budget of 1k ( i hope its RM/MYR because if its USD it would be better for you  laugh.gif ), please see my noob suggestion  icon_question.gif  to your questions. May you be enlightened  laugh.gif

1- Good brand
- Surefire is the best. For RM1k, you can get two of their lights which you can use as primary and backup lights. Trust me, you'd need back up.

Fore more choices, visit Surefire website. Their lights can be purchased in Ace hardware stores. (albeit over priced according to flashaholics here. Its true  sweat.gif  )

- Fenix, made in China but never mistaken its quality for its origin. I have one of their lights the TK-11 and its really bright. Do search in Candle Power Forums or just Google it.

2. Quite bright
- Get LED flashlights. You'll never go wrong with LED because its really damn bright. Unless you have specific requirement for using incandesecent (good ol bulb), LED is the way to go.

3. Seems price not an issue because only recently that Surefire announced their flagship Incivtus and Optimus and these can come close to RM1,500 when they release. Other brands - Inova, Fenix, Nitecore and many others, you can get 2 or 3 lights with that budget. Do more research on pricing. And again, Google.

4. TOday's flashlights are generally can be carried in pocket or comes with holster or body clip (like pen). Carrying is not an issue as they also look nice and flashy too  laugh.gif

5. Durability, this depends on manufacturer and type of lights. Tactical flashlights normally have certain waterproofing standard. Just to give you a picture, I've submerged my Fenix Tk-11 in a bucket with water one feet deep and switch it on. It works. Google review for Fenix Tk10. There's few good one in Candle Power Forums.

6. Good battery life. This will depend on the product offered by manufacturer. Refer to their tech stat before deciding.

There are two type of lights that used the common type of batteries consumed today, They are:

Lithium CR123 - these are bit expensive but they have shelf life of ten years without leaking. Harder to find in shops. So you might want to carry spares in your bags.

AA - our good old battery for walkman. These comes in alkaline normally and tend to leak. But the plus side, its easy to find in shops and cheaper too.

However, modern flashlight have circuits inside that regulates power of the battery how it really works, well, do your homework. I dont really understand but all i know, no need to take out the battery because the circuit will regulate the power and it wont discharge.

7. Please see answer number 2.

I may not answer your question to choose what flashlight to get but hope can help you narrow down choices that suits your needs.

Reason being of lots of brands out there is to suit different needs of users in the market so you'll have fun choosing the brand and model.

As of getting them, except Surefires which need to be purchased from local distributor, most brands can be purchased online. Do search in LYN threads for flashlight for sale. We have few people selling good stuffs around here.

May the force of lithium and LED be with you my fellow Padawan  laugh.gif


Added on July 15, 2008, 11:26 pm
THe nitecore extreme part is interchangeable with surefire e-series?
Intresting. Must do more research  icon_rolleyes.gif  Thanks!

yeah, the Fenix T is not a real thrower but It'll serve well for the price paid.

Those real throwers you mentioned  notworthy.gif  , well, its gonna burn a big hole in my wallet moneyflies.gif . I might get the Lumapower MVP later just for fun.

I'm waiting for the invictus to come out and see how it performs. Pocketable/body clip-able with 400L on max, my, i just cant imagine having one.

I wonder how flashlight technology gonna be in next 5 years.  We might have real light sabers.
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THANKS BRO notworthy.gif

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WahWah!! I can see this topic is growing with more and more flashlight lovers and collectors. That is definitely a good sign to see.

I am now officially looking for reseller for my Fenix flashlights. rclxms.gif

My objective is SIMPLE - "To introduce good flashlights to each and everyone in Malaysia".

Let all those noobs know that there are GOOD flashlights out there in the market, if not, they will think those cheapo pasar malam flashlights is the best they can find.

Anyone and I mean anyone who are interested to become a Fenix reseller, kindly PM or contact me. icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(rioven @ Jul 17 2008, 11:05 PM)
d)if u can suggest different brand

im using for indoor n outdoor (sometimes)...size doesnt matter..prefer battery cr123 and/or 18650..longer battery life (if possible)..multiple selection of brightness (if possible)..btw between b n c..which one can throw futher?
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Im waiting for my Olight T15 & T25 from TabLight. He has ordered and hope to receive them sometime next week.

Also I think nexro will have a nice selection of NiteCore products. Might be something you would be interested to consider (if you are looking for a different brand). For Fenix torchlights, Justin sell the "Cheapest in Town" smile.gif

nb: just know that the americans use the term "flashlight" but the UK's use the term "torchlight". Malaysia has a lot of the UK colonial influence biggrin.gif

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lol... i recieve my Nitecore D10 at 5pm friday..

im totally satisfied with it... the light, the weight, the size and the design..

the smart PD system is the best.. choosing from clicky to momentary switch is really realiable...

hohoho.. it's my new EDC.... yahoooo...

thx to nexro~*
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QUOTE(rioven @ Jul 17 2008, 11:05 PM)
hello guys..it me again...
need some advice before i buy...dont wanna regret later. i have read at cpf..but my head become  rclxub.gif But i manage to shortlist 3 flashlight maybe suits my taste

a) fenix pd3 q5 - likes the multiple selection of brightness..the design
b) fenix tk11 - can throw futher than q5..but lacks of brightness setting (turbo n general mode only)
c) jetbeam jet-III - again..multiple selection of brightness
d)if u can suggest different brand

im using for indoor n outdoor (sometimes)...size doesnt matter..prefer battery cr123 and/or 18650..longer battery life (if possible)..multiple selection of brightness (if possible)..btw between b n c..which one can throw futher?
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The TK11 will most likely throw further since it's comes with a smooth reflector. However, brightness wise, it will look the same. If you're looking for a light that can throw far, you'll need to change your list tongue.gif

QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Jul 18 2008, 05:37 PM)
Im waiting for my Olight T15 & T25 from TabLight. He has ordered and hope to receive them sometime next week.

Also I think nexro will have a nice selection of NiteCore products. Might be something you would be interested to consider (if you are looking for a different brand). For Fenix torchlights, Justin sell the "Cheapest in Town"  smile.gif

nb: just know that the americans use the term "flashlight" but the UK's use the term "torchlight". Malaysia has a lot of the UK colonial influence  biggrin.gif
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Thanks for your support smile.gif
I won't have a good selection of Nitecore products. However, I will just be getting the Nitecore D10 currently.
CR123 lights don't seem to be very popular locally while their other lights are a bit on the expensive side.
I prefer the newer SmartPD design because it's simple to use. No need to cycle through strobe/SOS/etc !

QUOTE(makuyo @ Jul 19 2008, 12:17 AM)
lol... i recieve my Nitecore D10 at 5pm friday..

im totally satisfied with it... the light, the weight, the size and the design..

the smart PD system is the best.. choosing from clicky to momentary switch is really realiable...

hohoho.. it's my new EDC.... yahoooo...

thx to nexro~*
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Glad you like it. I'm EDCing my EX10 as well. Sold all the D10s because people like AA lights! I think I'll be concentrating more on AA lights.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jul 20 2008, 01:08 AM)
The TK11 will most likely throw further since it's comes with a smooth reflector. However, brightness wise, it will look the same. If you're looking for a light that can throw far, you'll need to change your list tongue.gif
ahaha..plz dont poison me to that level (yet brows.gif)...well i might buy tk11 (after pc fair..depends on xtra budget that i have icon_rolleyes.gif )..btw guys..do you really use sos/strobe/brightness or just turn it on?
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QUOTE(rioven @ Jul 20 2008, 09:56 AM)
ahaha..plz dont poison me to that level (yet  brows.gif)...well i might buy tk11 (after pc fair..depends on xtra budget that i have  icon_rolleyes.gif )..btw guys..do you really use sos/strobe/brightness or just turn it on?
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hahaha.. yo bro~ like me, i use my fenix L1D to annoyed my frens.. using the strobe and distract their attention at night.. hahaha.. brows.gif

actually the Fenix's strobe and sos is really usefull during emergency... icon_question.gif

but for me now.. i use my Nitecore D10 as my EDC bcoz it is far more small and lightweight... icon_rolleyes.gif

while my Fenix L1D i keep it in my EDC bagpack... sweat.gif

Flashlights~ A weird but then UNIQUE hobby... tongue.gif
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When I eventually get my Olight T25 & T15 (still waiting... sad.gif ), I think the most used feature of my "future" light is the medium brightness ie wil be used when I go night/dawn walking in dark areas. Next useful is the low low brightness level for night reading which I think I will use quite often too (I dont need the high or med brightness level for reading. Thats one reason why I chose Olight over others ie they have a LOW low brightness for long runtime.)

The high brightness level, strobe and SOS features for me are bonuses and Im happy they are there whenever I need them.

... still waiting for my Olights to arrive... *hint* *hint* TabLight tongue.gif

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there's a guy who sells the cree led for surefire...

im juz curious.. how much is the total lumens?? and runtime??

i think someone bought it already.. can give me some info...

all i know is the price is rm100 to replace my P60 lamp in my Surefire G2
izzit totally better than buying the new G2 led???
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Just got my Cheap Romisen RC-F4, very satisfied with the throw and brightness.

What i can say is built quality is ok and it is value for money.

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QUOTE(makuyo @ Jul 21 2008, 11:24 PM)
there's a guy who sells the cree led for surefire...

im juz curious.. how much is the total lumens?? and runtime??

i think someone bought it already.. can give me some info...

all i know is the price is rm100 to replace my P60 lamp in my Surefire G2
izzit totally better than buying the new G2 led???
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Bro, can we have more details on this dude selling SF LED assembly?

Is it P60L he is selling? This retails for USD39 in SF web. G2L is USD65.

P60L = 80 Lumens over 10-12 hours runtime depending on model. (from SF web)

So i think its ok to upgrade right? unless you want to keep one incan light and one LED. get another G2L tongue.gif

Have anyone seen how much G2L actually cost in ACE? I don't have time to see myself... sweat.gif


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yeah... found edi the guy...

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ee+led+surefire

someone also have purchase the led....

can give some info? im much more interested in the runtime...
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You may also want to consider the M60L from Malkoff devices. Here's the link :

http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop2/index....7d51i6aidnt0e38

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Just received my Olight T15 and T25 !!! rclxm9.gif
They look gorgeous... My first advance/premium/high class torchlights. Thanks TabLight thumbup.gif

Cant wait to get home and try. Cant wait for the night to come to play with my new toys drool.gif rclxm9.gif
Watch out my neighbours, hehe laugh.gif
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Hi all flashlight lovers,

Just to update that i am currently selling Fenix Flashlights including all the available accessories such as bike mount, diffuser & red filter.
I have ready stock for the Fenix flashlight CLICK HERE TO MY THREAD. If you want can come to my shop at SS15 Subang Jaya to view the product in person. CLICK HERE FOR MAP

I am also currently looking into bringing in more higher end type of flashlights to be available to all flashlight lovers. Any brand recommendations?
Any other recommendations for any cool & interesting gadgets are welcomed as well, we always seek to expand our company further in every step we take. TQ

Thank you in advance for your recommendations.

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I've got some Nitecore Smart-PD D10 (uses AA cells) if anyone is interested smile.gif

user posted image

http://www.nitecore.com

edit: oops, battery is not included tongue.gif

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trying to find the Nitecore Defender Infinity but have so far found it on ebay malaysia along with a very painful shipping cost...anyone knows where it is sold locally?thanks in advance
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how much is it and the shipping cost??

I don't think anyone is selling it at the moment. you could get it at a fair price online like from Fenix Store. Their price includes shipping. You only have to take the risk in case it gets lost in the mail.
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yeah... i really wanted the Nitecore Defender Infinity...

instead i got the Nitecore D10 for now...

@Nexro... oyeah really recommended flashlight... the D10 is GREAT~!!

hey, im just thinking... if there's many folks who would like the NDI...
could you get them in bulk for us??? hmmm just wondering lor~~
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it costs roughly 72 US dollars for the light but a painful 8 dollars in shipping....after conversion...ouch...anyways hows the D10?mind offering a simple user review

and yeah...somebody please bring in the NDI...its the only single AA battery light that i find appealing to me...dont wanna get stuck with the Fenix L1D
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QUOTE(makuyo @ Jul 24 2008, 07:34 PM)
yeah... i really wanted the Nitecore Defender Infinity...

instead i got the Nitecore D10 for now...

@Nexro... oyeah really recommended flashlight... the D10 is GREAT~!!

hey, im just thinking... if there's many folks who would like the NDI...
could you get them in bulk for us??? hmmm just wondering lor~~
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i think only two or three person wanting the NDI.
While the NDI is a good light, the user interface does not work very well, this is my own opinion anyway.
Everytime you want to change from low to high or change modes, you have to twist the light. Most of the time, it will require both hands.
When you do twist it, you'd have to make sure it gets loosen enough or tighten enough else you'll get flickering light or it changes mode randomly.
The only good side of it is the design. I'm sure many bought it because of the appealing factor because frankly, there are better user interfaces out there.

Anyhow, when I do make an order from Nitecore again and if anyone still wants an NDI, I'll order it for them.
Bulk wise, I don't think 2 units are considered as bulk tongue.gif

If I were to choose, I would get the Raidfire Spear anytime... but that's because I have the NDI already. If anyone wants to try the NDI out, we can always meet up smile.gif
I'm sure you'll find the D10 to be a better suited for anyone who likes simple lights.

D10 review can be found here:
http://www.light-reviews.com/nitecore_d10/

I won't say much here other than the features since I'm actually selling the light and might be seen as biased tongue.gif

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yeah...right after posting i stumbled upon the D10 on cpf and 4sevens site...think it has a wonderful UI...u selling the light as a dealer?or selling off ur own one?
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As a dealer of course... why would I be having some many D10s for myself? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Jul 25 2008, 01:16 AM)
As a dealer of course... why would I be having some many D10s for myself? biggrin.gif
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A flashlight freak maybe... hmm.gif hehe tongue.gif

I think this torchlight hobby is gonna be addictive. aarrgghh... its digging holes in my wallet sad.gif
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i dont know whats going on...spending around 200 ringgit for a torch...yet..something compels me to...nuuuuu~~~
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QUOTE(cloud0188 @ Jul 25 2008, 10:05 PM)
i dont know whats going on...spending around 200 ringgit for a torch...yet..something compels me to...nuuuuu~~~
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nothing wrong with that. it's just a hobby like other hobbies smile.gif
i think there are other hobbies that are more costly...
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Yes, you are right, you can always find expensive hobbies out there.

Like changing to the latest handphone models, changing cars, changing their PC display cards, and collecting models and figures, playing hifi......

I can go on and on for those hobbies that people will need to spend quite a lot of money, so collecting flashlights is just a normal hobby for me.

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QUOTE(cloud0188 @ Jul 25 2008, 10:05 PM)
i dont know whats going on...spending around 200 ringgit for a torch...yet..something compels me to...nuuuuu~~~
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feeling you there bro.

anyway, if u have few to put in the car, one in the house and one u cary with u that is not too bad actually.

Considering an average rm200-300 each, its not even rm1000 spent for this hobby. and they are damn useful too when u need one.

Unless u really have flashlight fetish, considering the options/variations of lights out there in the market, money gonna flow like water la if to get all of them.

Anyway, I'd like to get just the below to fulfill my need.

1. EDC
- Surefire C2L OR
- Nitecore Defender Infinity OR
- Surefire E1L


2. In the car
- my current Fenix TK-11
- backup another Surefire G2L

3. In the house/room
- another tk-11?


How about u guys? biggrin.gif


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had been reading this thread for so long, n it's still poisoning. sweat.gif
i own one SF G3 n its P91 lamp assemblies. i'm looking for led flashlight that can produce a long light beam which i can light up a place from far away. any recommendation from sifus here??
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Hi, maybe you can consider the Fenix TK11.

The Fenix TK11 is RM255, but it's a rather powerful torch can shoot up to 200m as claimed by Fenix.

Whereas, the Fenix E20 is only RM125 and can shoot up to 100m.

You can view my posting. CLICK HERE
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Eh. My shot of the NDI and L2D ended up as the thumbnail on the front page LOL.
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jul 29 2008, 12:47 AM)
Eh. My shot of the NDI and L2D ended up as the thumbnail on the front page LOL.
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front page? where?
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@MetalZone
hehehe... ur NDI n L2D is the pic of this forum...

coool~* "NDI" still with you.. but the L2D is mine edi.. hahaha


**btw, L2d and the new E20... does both of them have the same throw distance??

for me E20 is a nice thrower already since it uses AA battery...

but then L2d have more Lumens... aiyak!! blur blur rclxub.gif

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Hi,

No the L2D will not be able to throw as far as the E20. The reason is because of the large head of the E20 flashlight as compared to the L2D which is much smaller.
Yes the lumens is much lower than L2D.

This will depend on the user either want it brighter or not so bright but can shoot further. You are welcomed to come to my shop to view the product when the stock of TK11 & E20 arrives in 2-3 weeks time, for other models i have ready stock already. When it arrives, i will be doing some comparison and take photos to show power of E20. drool.gif

Stay tuned until then. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Jul 29 2008, 08:43 AM)
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very nice smile.gif
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Hi, maybe you can consider the Fenix TK11.

The Fenix TK11 is RM255, but it's a rather powerful torch can shoot up to 200m as claimed by Fenix.

Whereas, the Fenix E20 is only RM125 and can shoot up to 100m.

You can view my posting. CLICK HERE
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thanks.. that's a really long throw flashlight. already read the spec n it's a great flashlight. smile.gif i'll take it into consideration..
anymore other led flashlight with long throwing light distance? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(cubicle @ Jul 29 2008, 06:05 PM)
thanks.. that's a really long throw flashlight. already read the spec n it's a great flashlight.  smile.gif  i'll take it into consideration..
anymore other led flashlight with long throwing light distance? icon_question.gif
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Sure there are smile.gif
Some cheaper, some more expensive... and some really expensive!

Look here...
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=171386

and here...
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=184664

Tiablo A9 is nice too but I don't like the switch.
Fenix TK11 and Raidfire is nicely done but I don't like having to turn the bezel either.
DBS is nice and simple and you get many modules to choose from.

Also, there are a whole lot of cheaper ones at DX. Personally bought two to play around... but that was quite sometime ago. I don't usually use them, just keep in for "just in case" situations.
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Yup totally agree with Nexro.
There are expensive ones and cheap ones also. Depend on how deep you are willing to dig your wallet. tongue.gif
Btw don't mind me asking Nexro, how long have you been playing with flashlights? You are really knowledgeable in flashlights. shocking.gif

Unfortunately i do not have that much money to spend in my flashlight collections cry.gif (For your info: I am the worker of Gadgetworld2u only)

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Been long enough... but nowadays, flashlight technology is catching up so fast, it's hard to keep up.
During the time I started, we only had Luxeons.

No need to have a lot of money to spend on flashlights... I don't really collect them anymore too. It's more towards reading and looking at what people do to their lights. Trust me, they are much more serious flashaholics around. You'd be amazed what they actually do to their lights, not just making it brighter but analyzing it here and there. Do spend some time at www.candlepowerforums.com smile.gif
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Yes true last time there was only LED flashlight now have so many types like Luxeon,Xenon,etc.

Youtube had lots of videos where people mods their flashlights also. Some could even burn paper in several seconds. . Very cool!! Wish i can have one like that haha....

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QUOTE(cubicle @ Jul 29 2008, 06:05 PM)
thanks.. that's a really long throw flashlight. already read the spec n it's a great flashlight.  smile.gif  i'll take it into consideration..
anymore other led flashlight with long throwing light distance? icon_question.gif
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as nexro has already mentioned, Tiablos can be taken into consideration.

Nexro,
I take back my word that the throwers you mentioned blush.gif (A8,A9, MRV and others) will burn hole in my pocket, apparently, their price is quite reasonable with few online suppliers providing free shipping.

I might be having A9 or MA6 ordered within this few days after much research and beamshots viewed. Especially from Elektrolumens in CPF and many others.

However, I might also consider the below lights. Elektrolumens.com is one of the place we can get on of these without getting our hands dirty... drool.gif

SSC P7 Maglite against hotwire & led throwers. Beamshots!

My colleagues already think something is wrong with me...
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Yup totally agree with you (kdrocks) flashlight collection is sure is addictive brows.gif
I am already hooked onto to this thread, its like taking drugs..... doh.gif

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Hi guys,

Here is a recent build by me. This custom P7 build running at approximately 700 ~ 900 lumens smile.gif
This one has been sold. And I will be building a few more of these. Let me know if you need one.


-Seoul P7
-PWM control Driver
-Metal MOP reflector
-UCL lens
-Run on a single 18650
-Green glow pedestal
-Custom sleeve to accomodate 18650
-Custom heatsink
-Custom tailcap to suit 18650 lithium ion
-Maglite host approximately 1D size



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Some outdoor beamshots, approximately 80 meters
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With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

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Hi guys,

Here is a recent build by me. This custom P7 build running at approximately 700 ~ 900 lumens smile.gif
This one has been sold. And I will be building a few more of these. Let me know if you need one.
-Seoul P7
-PWM control Driver
-Metal MOP reflector
-UCL lens
-Run on a single 18650
-Green glow pedestal
-Custom sleeve to accomodate 18650
-Custom heatsink
-Custom tailcap to suit 18650 lithium ion
-Maglite host approximately 1D size


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With regards,
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Can you help me to modify my 3 c-cells maglite? Or you we can just buy the LED from you to just fix it on the maglite?

Kindly PM me for more details. wink.gif
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Interesting light you got there, Jo.

How much is one of those? Please PM more information.

What's the runtime like with one 18650 cell ?
In the beamshot, how far is the wall ?
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wow the beamshot looks cool, can reach that far some more the light throw.
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waahaha... last night.. my friend's motorbike broke down.... icon_question.gif

went to pick him up with my housemate... it was around 8pm...

1st time my flashlight were used in action... hohoho... rclxms.gif

we have to wait for the workshop guy come and pick up his bike...

so turned on my emergency signal light of my kembara car...

then put my L1d on strobe mode and put it on the roof of my car to warn other drivers...

used my Nitecore D10 to shine my friend's bike.. got problems on the brake pad...

yeah.. everyone slows down when they past by...

at first my friend just used his handphone to shine on his motorbike...

and he was like amazed when i shine my light.... shocking.gif

he was like.. (hah bagus pon ade lampu!!) thumbup.gif

hahhaha.... too bad didn't bring my camera that time sweat.gif , cheers~*

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Wow, good to hear that.
You saved his day... and probably his life too!
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Jetbeam is more expensive in Bangkok but Fenix is cheaper compare to Malaysia prices.....
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Hi Guys,

Will anyone be interested if I start a "Group Buy" for members here in Malaysia?
I am the Authorized JETBeam dealer in Singapore. And I have been occasionally selling these to our Malaysia flashaholics.

What do you guys think? There are few great models in stock soon.


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got my fenix t1 from 4sevens.com. now waiting for my nitecore xtreme. if you guys want to buy fenix online, perhaps check in fenix-store.com and look for the cpf discount.

i like everything about the t1 except the clip. i dont want to buy tk10 or tk11 which generate similiar lumens to t-1.



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one question: is the nitecore D10 digitally regulated like the Fenix lights to achieve constant brightness even when battery is low?
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but then... the T-1 is bulky rite? i dun really like it...

many ppl prefere the TK-10....
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one question: is the nitecore D10 digitally regulated like the Fenix lights to achieve constant brightness even when battery is low?
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Nope the Nitecore doesn't comes with that function.

Output & Runtime:
AA battery
Maximum output 130 lumens, for about 50 minutes (with brightness declines to 50%)
Minimum output 3 lumens(1%), for about 45 hours (with brightness declines to 50%)

Li-ion Battery
Maximum output 130 lumens, for about 80 minutes (with brightness declines to 50%)
Minimum output 5 lumens(1%), for about 60 hours (with brightness declines to 50%)

At maximum it produces 130 lumens but after 50 minutes for AA Battery the brightness declines by 50% producing only 65 lumens.
However, i like Nitecore cause it has the ability to adjust the brightness as how you like it. Which Fenix doens't have cry.gif

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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Aug 5 2008, 06:34 PM)
Nope the Nitecore doesn't comes with that function.

Output & Runtime:
AA battery
Maximum output 130 lumens, for about 50 minutes (with brightness declines to 50%)
Minimum output 3 lumens(1%), for about 45 hours (with brightness declines to 50%)

Li-ion Battery
Maximum output 130 lumens, for about 80 minutes (with brightness declines to 50%)
Minimum output 5 lumens(1%), for about 60 hours (with brightness declines to 50%)

At maximum it produces 130 lumens but after 50 minutes for AA Battery the brightness declines by 50% producing only 65 lumens.
However, i like Nitecore cause it has the ability to adjust the brightness as how you like it. Which Fenix doens't have  cry.gif
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yes it does... these days, most lights are regulated, one way or the other.

From Nitecore's website:
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Unique electronic-controlled switch (Smart PD System), very reliable;
Unique Infinitely Variable Digital-controlled Brightness System;
Quick direct access min & max brightness, very simple user interface;
Made from military grade aluminum alloy, really strong;
Extremely compact size and light weight suitable for EDC (every day carry);
Mil-Spec Type III Hard Anodized finish;
Resistance to impact by dropping according to US MIL-STD-810F;
Waterproof to IPX-8 standard;
Broad-voltage fully-regulated circuit, compatible with kinds of batteries;
Built in high efficiency LED (Light Emitting Diodes);
Torch Lumen 130 lumens;
Extended runtime;
Metal reflector;
Impact-resistant optical lens with Dual-CoatingTM technique;
Tactical lanyards braided with military grade 550 parachute-cord;
Tail stand


Also see here for the runtime graph... note the one for the regular AA cell.
http://www.light-reviews.com/nitecore_d10/

If it's not regulated, you won't get a straight line... of course, there's only so much juice a single AA cell can supply and once it cannot sustain the current draw anymore, it will drop off and finally, go off.

For comparison with a Fenix L1D Q5, you can refer here:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=202436

certain runtime graphs also "seem" to show that these lights are not regulated at all tongue.gif
you can draw your own conclusion...

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Guys,anybody have a light for sale??Preferably long throw,if comes with batt and charger its better!Need it latest by Friday!


Please PM me!
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if you want one without waiting for parcel delivery..try visiting gadgetworld2u's shop in SS15 subang jaya...next to taylor's business school..i pass by his shop all the time and he does have lotsa stocks...
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if you want one without waiting for parcel delivery..try visiting gadgetworld2u's shop in SS15 subang jaya...next to taylor's business school..i pass by his shop all the time and he does have lotsa stocks...
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thanks for promoting. biggrin.gif

Yup if you want long throw flashlight, you can probably look at the Fenix Tk11 or Fenix E20. VIEW POSTING HERE
You can visit the shop to view all the Fenix flashlight models.

The Fenix TK11 stock has arrive today 6/8/08. Have ready stock. For the Fenix E20 stock will be arriving end of this week.
Can come shop to view CLICK HERE FOR MAP



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Thanks,replied to your pm guys!
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well..i study in the business school and go there for lunch almost all the time.haha.glad to be of assistance.
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Just a little reminder for you guys who wanna sell!
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Okay, got my NiteCore D10 from nexro just now and instantly bought batteries for it. Amazing, simply amazing for a light that size. My friend asked whether can pinjam or not...LOL
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Great news for all Flashlight lovers,

Other than Fenix Flashlight, i am also selling the SureFire Flashlight which is the No.1 brand worldwide. rclxms.gif
Currently, display units/stocks (lmited range) for SureFire is not available at the shop but it is expected to be available in the next 2 weeks.
Any inquires do PM me. TQ

SureFire Flashlight Thread : CLICK HERE TO VIEW

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SUREFIRE FLASHLIGHT PRICE LIST       DOWNLOAD HERE [1.6MB]

SUREFIRE ACCESSORIES PRICE LIST     DOWNLOAD HERE [2.32MB]


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Great news indeed!
Good to have a Surefire dealer here in LowYat.net forums!

Any special price for members? tongue.gif

ps: still haven't got time to drop-by your shop...maybe I'll come by tomorrow smile.gif
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Hi, thanks.

The SureFire flashlight are price controlled by the distributor, it's not up to me to set my desirable price. As a slight discount, FREE shipping anywhere within Malaysia is given.
You are welcomed to drop by to the shop anytime of course within our operating hours. tongue.gif
Any inquiries you can look for the worker there Danny. As for me i have mentioned i am the part time worker, i will be at college studying. cry.gif

All the best to you.

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Good news guys, because the Merdeka Day is just around the corner, I have 1 announcement to make:

I'm having Merdaka Day Crazy Sales.

Come and take a look and Grab It While Stock Last.
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Hi all!

I'll be opening a sales thread for OLIGHT flashlights soon in the bulk section.

Just to share the latest and soon to come is OLIGHT M20 Warrior.

Some teaser biggrin.gif

FEATURES:
1. World class super bright Cree XR-E LEDs; Q5 bin or R2 bin (Premium)
2. Throws a beam up to 250 meters / 273 yards
Upto 250 lumens (Premium edition), upto 230 lumen (Standard model)
Upto 150 hours runtime
3. Digitally controlled constant brightness (3 levels) and strobe
Auto memorization of specific function for quick access to output level or mode
Advanced low battery indicator - blink 3x every 20 sec when battery power is low
Reverse polarity protection - protects the circuit/emitter from improperly installed batteries
4. Superior heat sink that disperses heat to protect LED and electrical components
5. Full orange peel reflector, perfectly centered light source - for flawless beam with great throw
Option: smooth reflector available - for maximum penetration and beam distance
6. Rugged, tough aerospace grade aluminium body with Type 3 anodization (MIL-STD-810F) for anti scratching, hard and smooth finish.
7. Rated at IP-68 for enclosure resistance to dust & water (waterproof 1+ meter)
8. Ultra clear, anti-shatter lense.
9. Anodized aluminium "cigar hold" ring offers additional anti-roll properties and is removable for a smoother body profile.
Built-in steel pocket clip, removable
10.Battery magazine to prevent CR123A batteries rattling in the battery tube.

SPECS:
1. LED type: Cree XR-E WC Q5 bin (standard model) or WH R2 bin (Premium edition)
2. Available in Black HA or OD Green
3. Functions: brightness (runtime **)
(Premium Edition) 7 lm (150 hr), 90 lm (12 hr), 250 lm (~3hr), Strobe
(Standard Model) 6 lm (150 hr), 80 lm (12 hr), 230 lm (~3hr), Strobe
** runtime using 1x18650 2500mAh battery
4. Batteries: 2xCR123A, 2xRCR123A, 2x16340, 1x17670, 1x18650
5. Dimensions: Length: 140 mm
Bezel diameter: 33.5 mm
Body diameter: 24.8 mm
Weight: 120.5 g (without battery)
6. Accessories: 1 holster, 1 lanyard, 2 spare O-rings, 1 spare fluorescent tailcap rubber boot, 1 battery magazine

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthrea...004#post2194004

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Hi guys,

I have one opened box Fenix TK11 New unused for immediate sale.

Selling : Fenix TK11 Full Original Box + Charger + 1x 18650 Battery
Date bought : 18/8/2008
Condition : Immaculate/New/Never Been used. Just took out to test trial only.
Price: RM200 (Fenix TK11 Only), RM288 (Fenix TK11 + charger + 1x 18650)
Dealing Method : thru Maybank2u

Interested Party, please SMS me : 016-7676766 or PM me.

Only one unit!. First come first serve!.

Am upgrading to SSC P7 900 Lumens LED Flashlight .


Added on August 27, 2008, 2:09 pmHi Folks....

TK11 sold !. Thanks.

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hi guys, I'm in need of a good flashlight. Prefer something less than Rm300. I'll be using it in the jungle during night time. Will be attaching them to my weapons too during night training. I would prefer the SOS function to be exist on the flashlight as i will be using it to signal my existing mate.

I do own a Wolf-eye Shark-I before but somehow during a training, i dropped it without noticing it and when i gonna use it, it disappears from my weapon =(

So, Rm300 is my maximum budget as i predict similar things will happen again if i did not screw it tight on the mount and it tend to happen every time >.< Hope to get something very similiar to Wolf-eye Shark-I .

Thanks for reading and i do hope some of the fellow forummers will be able to help me out.
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tinker,
what type of mount are you using? any picture of it?
also, do you require a pressure pad switch?

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it's 20mm mount that we normally use it on a rifle. Pad switch is definitely a bonus but it's not necessary. Any idea ? But do recommend something you or other forumers can get it for me hehe.
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hey guys.. look at my new collection..
jus got my TK11 from justin abt 15mins ago..
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Congrats for having another super torch into your collection .....

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any ideas guys ? regarding my question
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Bro,

Wolf-eye Shark-I is HID torch lah.... where can get RM300 or similiar prizing for a HID?

That's unless you have to downgrade to cheaper 900 lumens or 200+ lumens torch....

Cree 6 mode Q3 200 Lumen Torch 1xAA

Do consider.

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Well ya....but i'm saying something similiar.... Ya i will consider that model but i need some flashlights to compare with.
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If you wish to compare HID and Cree's LED, that's definitely out of the question.... as that would be comparing a 1800 lms to only 200+ lms torch.... ha ha.

Otherwise best choice is to get SSP P7 LED at 900 lms which might get into your taste.
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900 lumens are doing great for me already but it does not has a SOS mode which i will be using it for signaling. However, it is on my list now. Thanks for the suggestion, anymore? I will be getting it within 2 more weeks as i'm going to use it soon for another opt.
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QUOTE(tinker @ Aug 27 2008, 06:28 PM)
it's 20mm mount that we normally use it on a rifle. Pad switch is definitely a bonus but it's not necessary. Any idea ? But do recommend something you or other forumers can get it for me hehe.
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doesn't have a pad switch though.
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Hmm....can you pm me or let everyone here know when the JET-III Pro ultra will be announced here ? smile.gif Large reflector with the ability to throw light, not bad not bad. Lack of the SOS mode tho, it's now on my top list. I might stick with Wolf-eye H4-T(F) Hawk (friend's) for few more months until i got my own flashlight. Ya me and my team is all using wolf-eye's xenon/led/ HID flashlights and some surefire's flash....
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QUOTE(tinker @ Aug 29 2008, 05:35 PM)
Hmm....can you pm me or let everyone here know when the JET-III Pro ultra will be announced here ? smile.gif Large reflector with the ability to throw light, not bad not bad. Lack of the SOS mode tho, it's now on my top list. I might stick with Wolf-eye H4-T(F) Hawk (friend's) for few more months until i got my own flashlight. Ya me and my team is all using wolf-eye's xenon/led/ HID flashlights and some surefire's flash....
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yeap, i will surely announce here smile.gif

i'm not sure what exactly you're doing... but if your life depends on the light you use in your opt, i'd suggest you get a Surefire.
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olight just launch M20, which very awesome to me. if somebody do bulk sale this item,, please count me in.
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What's the price??
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QUOTE(Xproblem @ Sep 1 2008, 09:23 AM)
olight just launch M20, which very awesome to me. if somebody do bulk sale this item,, please count me in.
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Yeah, it's all depends on the price, if it's not too expensive, then I will consider to collect 1 of those. brows.gif
The price should be Ringgit Malaysia 200 ~ 300, if too expensive then, I can just say : Semoga Berjaya whistling.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Sep 1 2008, 01:49 PM)
Yeah, it's all depends on the price, if it's not too expensive, then I will consider to collect 1 of those.  brows.gif
The price should be Ringgit Malaysia 200 ~ 300, if too expensive then, I can just say : Semoga Berjaya  whistling.gif
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Personally for me....hmmm... i would be going for those OEM torches which still uses high quality LEDs like Q5 or SSC P7..... still bright and cheaper to use..... laugh.gif
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but got warranty or not ??
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Short Term Warranty....just like handphone shops...those AP sets....with warranty as well but not under main distributorship warranty... that's all.
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then where u get the OEM stuff from?
and how much cheaper will they be?
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How cheap?....errr.......maybe around 30% cheaper than branded.
From where....errr.... overseas.....
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oh..
i mean where do u get them in malaysia?
or u ship them in from overseas?
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i mean where do u get them in malaysia?
or u ship them in from overseas?
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Shipped them in directly from overseas.
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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Sep 2 2008, 06:31 AM)
oh..
i mean where do u get them in malaysia?
or u ship them in from overseas?
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Look around www.dealextreme.com or www.kaidomain.com
These are the two popular ones in CPF. Their shipping time is bad but the stuff is one of the cheapest you'll get online.
Most of the time, you can return DOA items and warranty might be provided for certain items.


Added on September 2, 2008, 6:27 pmHello all,

I'm clearing all my ex-stock of Jet1Pro and Jet2Pro to make way for the new Jet3Pro smile.gif
As such, I'll be selling these at a discounted price.
Jet1Pro - RM 190
Jet2Pro - RM 190

If you need a li-ion charger and li-ion cells, I have the AW branded ones in stock too. These will be priced lower if you get it with one of the Jetbeam lights.

Please see here for the thread: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/717956

Thanks smile.gif

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Bro Watta,

sorry I don't get from these 2 sites..... am getting from a main supplier in overseas. Currently am working into the prices and especially the shipping charges and also if duty (if any).....when it crosses customs.
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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 1 2008, 02:10 PM)
Personally for me....hmmm... i would be going for those OEM torches which still uses high quality LEDs like Q5 or SSC P7..... still bright and cheaper to use.....  laugh.gif
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What's this P7 light? Can provide more info like brand/make name etc?
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Well folks.....my Aurora AK P7 SSC P7 900 lumens just arrived this morning.

I had got one extra in hand as i had order 2 units.

Hahaha....it's using 1x 18650 battery.

Anyone wants this extra unit? Will sell it for RM250 inclusive shipping to your home in Malaysia.

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alan,
The P7 is a new 4-die LED from SSC. Basically, we refer any OEM lights that uses this LED as a P7 light tongue.gif



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Well folks.....my Aurora AK P7 SSC P7 900 lumens just arrived this morning.

I had got one extra in hand as i had order 2 units.

Hahaha....it's using 1x 18650 battery.

Anyone wants this extra unit? Will sell it for RM250 inclusive shipping to your home in Malaysia.
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kinda expensive for an OEM single 18650 P7 light, don't you think?
does it come with any sort of warranty?

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Well...it comes with charger and 2x 18650 batteries!!!... the charger + 2x 18650 batteries alone already take around RM100..... So if you minus RM250-RM100.... basically the torch itself only cost RM150 lor!!!!!.

IF only the torch level - RM150 for 900 lumen (manufacturer rated) .... hahaha...where to find.....

Selling as a set RM250 together with charger + 2x 18650 Batteries.
It comes as set from overseas therefore releasing as a set as well.

All torches are fully tested and functional prior shipping out.

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wah, previous post you didn't mention tongue.gif
what charger and cells are provided ?
does it come in a gift box as well?
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Bro Nexro,

Ok...attached below is what you'll get..... but not my youngest daughter in the background ...hehehe.

Actual fact...my cost is around RM280/unit but due to combined shipment...my cost is lowered therefore i can sell slightly cheaper than actual cost involved comparing to orders of 1 unit only from overseas.

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@patchin
what about this throw beam? how far aaa? unsure.gif
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This Torch is not a throw torch but more of a flood light as it's focus beam is not a spot type... well it's able to throw some good distance.....from my 1st floor (standing) to 20th floor of my apartment in much wider range.

Say, example...if you're in plane hanger....it's able to shine a whole helicopter when you're standing about 20 feet away from it and the whole hanger would be all brigthen's up!.

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so i'd take it as perfect use for cave brows.gif tongue.gif
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For Cave? Ohhh.....caving......Yes!...a perfect partner as a caver would want a whole area of say within 50-100 feet to be brighten up and still be able to throw some distances to see ahead (say 150 feet).

Errr...but won't you eyes get pain due to brightness during the going thru the hole/tunnel (cave)???? I tried shining to my wall in dark condition around 5-7 feet away....my eyes also pain liao.

Below is the sample light throw.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 3 2008, 11:43 PM)
alan,
The P7 is a new 4-die LED from SSC. Basically, we refer any OEM lights that uses this LED as a P7 light tongue.gif
nexro, thanks for explaining smile.gif I guess this qualifies then ...

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Yep...that's Mag with SSC P7 LED.... which might be modified or a new model.

I had friends as well...modified their Old Mag to be NEW Mag using SSC P7 module.... but that gonna cost them easily RM150 and above.... just for changing the LED module alone + shipping ....

If paying for that price just for MODs...hahaha.... i might as well ... buy a new torch...and keep Old Mag to be sentimental value.... hahahaha...

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i'm wondering how to change the tailcap on Fenix TK11 and Fenix P3D Premium Q5, stock is black, but i want it orange smile.gif...

how aaa?
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Sep 4 2008, 06:53 PM)
i'm wondering how to change the tailcap on Fenix TK11 and Fenix P3D Premium Q5, stock is black, but i want it orange smile.gif...

how aaa?
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have patchin spray paint it bright orange for you! nod.gif
and do post a picture when you get it laugh.gif

alan,
nice light... what type of cell powers it?

patchin,
ah, i get it now. nice package.
and regarding the mag, well, some people like their mag a lot... so, they have it modded smile.gif the price is still okay considering it's all done by themselves! you get the satisfaction of actually building up a mag P7 and then using it smile.gif new lights come and go... but the mag... you just need to swap out the LED and circuit board for a new LED smile.gif
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ohmy.gif no... what i'm trying to say is the tailcap switch, left the word - switch tongue.gif
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sniper69,

I think you wanted to change the silicone tailcaps!.
There's now "Glow in the dark" tailcaps!...in the market.
Just take out the switch and change the tailcap....walla....you've got a new tailcap.


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have patchin spray paint it bright orange for you!  nod.gif
and do post a picture when you get it  laugh.gif

alan,
nice light... what type of cell powers it?

patchin,
ah, i get it now. nice package.
and regarding the mag, well, some people like their mag a lot... so, they have it modded smile.gif the price is still okay considering it's all done by themselves! you get the satisfaction of actually building up a mag P7 and then using it smile.gif new lights come and go... but the mag... you just need to swap out the LED and circuit board for a new LED smile.gif
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thumbup.gif Ok... you mean.... "Homebrew" torches.... Of course...you'll get the utmost satisfactions once it's done.
But once any tom d*** harry happens.... there goes your project, time, money and most importantly ...disappointment.

Anyway, I had been homebrewing many things therefore i know the feelings....of ups and downs..... whistling.gif


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yeap the switch, but how i'm gonna do that? i opened it but there's no screw or whatsoever icon_question.gif
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Hahaha...there's no screw...but can you see 2 small tiny holes...each at left and right side ?.
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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 4 2008, 11:07 PM)
Hahaha...there's no screw...but can you see 2 small tiny holes...each at left and right side ?.
there's 2 holes, how i'm gonna unscrew it?
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use a special tools to hold these 2 holes in place and turn it or you can homebrew certain tools yourself... rclxm9.gif
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use a needle nose plier...
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 5 2008, 08:40 AM)
use a needle nose plier...
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so i'd take it as perfect use for cave brows.gif tongue.gif
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HI FOLKS! MY AURORA AK-P7 900 LUMEN TORCH SOLD!.
THANKS.


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Hey guys selling an almost new Cree x4,plz Click here! smile.gif
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eh, I used to sell exactly the same set to a few friends.
where did you get yours from ??
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A friend bought it for me!

My bad for not checking the prices first,paid a lot for that!
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How's the beam looks like? I mean how far is the beam.....
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It is not a long throw but beam goes very far,more than my MK3!
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How far....? estimate? What brand is your MK3?
Fenix Tk11 goes around 200M, my Mini CREE 200 lumen with adjustable Light Beam goes around 350M.

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Jetbeam Mk3!

I'll try to measure accurately how far it goes but my guess would be around 270m as the spill is quite large!
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are you sure it throw further than the jet2 mk3? the mk3 has a bigger reflector while the rc-t5 has 4 smaller ones. it's brighter but i doubt it will outthrow the mk3.

the rc-t5 is a nice 4-cree light. although it only uses a Cree Q2, it's as bright as those cheap SSC P7 lights and throws further too. Look around for a review to see beamshots! smile.gif
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Yo Bro Nexro,

My Spider Fire ZY-C30 200 lumen with adjustable Light Beam 3xAAA can throw upto 400M lah.... much longer than Tk11!. Hahaha.... but the spot is the shape of the CREE LED (Square shape!!! The actual shape of the CREE LED!!) but the flood is good enough to brighten up around 15 feet front only).

Good throw, got to forsake good flood. Cannot get BOTH world together!.
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you're comparing the jet2 mk3 and rc-t5, what's the point having the zy-c30 here? smile.gif
take a pic of your 400m throwing light and show us if you say so... don't forget to measure the distance. if the beam is still bright enough at 400m, then that's a very nice light to have. else, inova's X5T has a 2 mile visibilty with only 5x 5mm LEDs biggrin.gif
and my 5mW green laser can shine a few light years away... but my eyes can't make out anything that far laugh.gif
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Bro Nexro,

Visibility doesn't mean it can shines upto that level lah.... eg: our car's headlight visibility also upto many miles away but can only shines and brighten up roads how many meters away only???

Photos taken using 1sec and some 1/2 sec shot due to night shot. Measured with my GPS unit which took me walking at night.....

Taken at around 20 feet:
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115 Meters shot:
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246 Meters shot:
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You can see that from 482 meters it's still slight brights up...therefore i would say the throw max upto 400 m to be clear.

Now where to find a single Cree LED 200 lumen mini torch with 3xAAA can throw upto 400m ?? whistling.gif Photo of my mini torch thrower as below:

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impressive bro.

how much it cost and wer to buy?
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The X4 uses Cree Q4 bro!
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It looks like it's only usable up to 246 m rather than > 400m. I doubt one could make out anything at that range.
Also, you forgot to post the aperture setting for your digicam.
And, not forgetting your GPS is only accurate to +- 8m or more depending on your how many satellite you got locked.

A car headlamp is designed for a different purpose but I suppose you still don't get my point...
The thing is I might have a light that can shine 2km away, but can I make out what I'm looking at?
I can have a laser locked onto a target 5km away but all I can see is a spot of green light but cannot make out what the target is.
You can have a 400m throw LED light, but really, what's the point other than bragging rights? (and irritating your neighbours tongue.gif)

Your last question: can get it at dealextreme tongue.gif it's pretty cheap too but no where near the throw of a magD with aspherical lens.
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 8 2008, 08:11 AM)
The X4 uses Cree Q4 bro!
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impressive bro.

how much it cost and wer to buy?
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Your last question: can get it at dealextreme tongue.gif it's pretty cheap too but no where near the throw of a magD with aspherical lens.
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DX? wah lan.... their shipping takes forever to arrive lor....from my last shipment experience with DX...takes around 1 month to arrive.....

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what's the rush? smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 8 2008, 03:01 PM)
what's the rush? smile.gif
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rclxm9.gif hahaha..... by the time it arrives, already eyed unto another toy liao.... icon_question.gif
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there are always new toys around...
now also don't have enough money to get all those... haha.
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The problem is almost every month it has new torch toys coming out therefore it's always catchy in our eyeball!
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Got a new brand out eddy, ITP-so so only lah but Eagletac models are impressive, but too bad no dealers in Malaysia, i like the EagleTac T10C2

http://eagletac.com/allmodels.html?2
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the website doesn't seem to be working now...

Their lights look like a Fenix and Olight hybrid... just like what others say. I'll wait for reviews... smile.gif

For now, the M20 seems like a better buy.
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 8 2008, 07:16 PM)
the website doesn't seem to be working now...

Their lights look like a Fenix and Olight hybrid... just like what others say. I'll wait for reviews... smile.gif

For now, the M20 seems like a better buy.
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it's working now, i think their website is down yesterday evening....
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Just wondering, who knows where can provide the Maglite modification in Malaysia?

I have a 3 C-cells Maglite with me with a normal krypton bulb, thinking of want to modify it to LED.

Someone can tell me more?
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 8 2008, 07:16 PM)
the website doesn't seem to be working now...

Their lights look like a Fenix and Olight hybrid... just like what others say. I'll wait for reviews... smile.gif

For now, the M20 seems like a better buy.
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yes, M20 looks nice.

Still waiting for the pricing for Malaysia.
Hope to be able to get some special price for Olight M20 Warrior (special promo for lowyatians) rolleyes.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Sep 9 2008, 09:18 AM)
Just wondering, who knows where can provide the Maglite modification in Malaysia?

I have a 3 C-cells Maglite with me with a normal krypton bulb, thinking of want to modify it to LED.

Someone can tell me more?
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Got a link from pedro:

MAGLITE MODS module

It a straight forward drop-in type.... hahahaha.....another hole in the pocket. rclxub.gif
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hey guys, i'm quite new here. sorry for asking some stupid question.

may i know where can i modify my 2D maglite? i read thru somewhere, some1 modified it with a superb 700+ lumens output.

so was wondering any1 here do this kinna modify business?
was hoping to modify it so that it can achieve high brightness + far throw with easy to get batteries (D size) .
if yes please do drop me a pm. biggrin.gif
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Got a link from pedro:

MAGLITE MODS module

It a straight forward drop-in type.... hahahaha.....another hole in the pocket.  rclxub.gif
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Wow wow wow!!! The Maglite LED drop in cost a bomb, an expensive price USD60 can buy a lot of other flashlight to replace the good old Maglite.

I will need to think twice to buy that.

I found an alternative LED upgrade, this upgrade is from Maglite itself - Check out here:
http://www.maglite.com/LED_Mod.asp
http://www.amazon.com/Mag-Instrument-MagLI...e/dp/B000IXAJG4


Of course the LED upgrade from Maglite itself does not produce very high lumens as compare to this , but it is way CHEAPER.
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off topic question here:
if i buy laser from dealextreme, will kastam rampas it?

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Errr...by right should not.
Well, cannot guarantee as sometimes things can even go missing in Kastam itself.
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QUOTE(i_love_japan @ Sep 9 2008, 06:58 PM)
hey guys, i'm quite new here. sorry for asking some stupid question.

may i know where can i modify my 2D maglite? i read thru somewhere, some1 modified it with a superb 700+ lumens output.

so was wondering any1 here do this kinna modify business?
was hoping to modify it so that it can achieve high brightness + far throw with easy to get batteries (D size) .
if yes please do drop me a pm. biggrin.gif
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for 700+ lumens, I doubt 2xD cells will be enough. you'll probably need li-ion cells like 18650 or C sized ones. The C ones are not cheap.

QUOTE(beskal @ Sep 9 2008, 08:30 PM)
off topic question here:
if i buy laser from dealextreme, will kastam rampas it?
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most likely not. DX declares them as LED light or pen.
If they do hold it, you can tell them that you need it for astronomy smile.gif
Most of these cheap lasers are not made to be weapon mounted anyway...
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no worries in importing lasers or weapon mounting accessories. Take a look at surefire x300, its for 20mm pistol rail. I order laser bore sight for sighting in my scopes too. It goes through without problems. Just declare it as paintball accessories and you are good to go. Cheers
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BatteryJunction.com - OLIGHT's USA dealer was having a special promotional contest for M20 at CandlePowerForums... with big discounts (ie upto 50% for first 1-10 buyers) and the offer was quickly snapped up...
see...
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?t=182794

Hopefully OLIGHT will agree to allow & assist us to have some kind of special promotional sales for Lowyatians smile.gif
(just like what Justin did with the Fenix Merdeka Sales... kudos to justin)
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Sep 9 2008, 07:18 PM)
Wow wow wow!!! The Maglite LED drop in cost a bomb, an expensive price USD60 can buy a lot of other flashlight to replace the good old Maglite.

I will need to think twice to buy that.

I found an alternative LED upgrade, this upgrade is from Maglite itself - Check out here:
http://www.maglite.com/LED_Mod.asp
http://www.amazon.com/Mag-Instrument-MagLI...e/dp/B000IXAJG4


Of course the LED upgrade from Maglite itself does not produce very high lumens as compare to this , but it is way CHEAPER.
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Justin Bro,

Here's one more link for the drop-in mod for maglite.

Maglite LED Module

Happy viewing.
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hey..
anyone tried dumping ure waterproof IPX-8 light into water..?
anything will happen to the light?
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 9 2008, 11:57 PM)
for 700+ lumens, I doubt 2xD cells will be enough. you'll probably need li-ion cells like 18650 or C sized ones. The C ones are not cheap.
most likely not. DX declares them as LED light or pen.
If they do hold it, you can tell them that you need it for astronomy smile.gif
Most of these cheap lasers are not made to be weapon mounted anyway...
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erm, how come C sized cells are more powerful than D? i tot D cells are bigger than C size cells?
maybe u dont mean by those normal C size cells from supermarket right?
sorry quite noob in these. blush.gif
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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Sep 12 2008, 11:29 PM)
hey..
anyone tried dumping ure waterproof IPX-8 light into water..?
anything will happen to the light?
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I got it from wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code).

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8  immersion beyond 1 m 

The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer.
NOTE: Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that produces no harmful effects.
I guess its all up to how the manufacturer identified it.

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i oso read on other forums saying IPX-8 should be waterproof up to 1 meter for 30mins..
but cant the water enter through the tail cap part for the fenix TK11?
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QUOTE(i_love_japan @ Sep 12 2008, 11:36 PM)
erm, how come C sized cells are more powerful than D? i tot D cells are bigger than C size cells?
maybe u dont mean by those normal C size cells from supermarket right?
sorry quite noob in these. blush.gif
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You can find them in AW's sales thread in CPF if you want one smile.gif

waterproof issue...
everyone states that their light are IPX-8... but all these lights are not made for diving, so why bother? It's just another selling point. Even lights without IPX-8 can be subjected to the occasional splash or puddle. If you're looking for a light that can swim or dive, then you gotta look for dive rated lights smile.gif these are available in many dive shops in our country smile.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 13 2008, 09:35 AM)
oops, I was referring to the C-sized li-ion cell. Not the regular alkaline ones.
You can find them in AW's sales thread in CPF if you want one smile.gif

waterproof issue...
everyone states that their light are IPX-8... but all these lights are not made for diving, so why bother? It's just another selling point. Even lights without IPX-8 can be subjected to the occasional splash or puddle. If you're looking for a light that can swim or dive, then you gotta look for dive rated lights smile.gif these are available in many dive shops in our country smile.gif
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This is because metal will have certain amount of weight that is not good for the divers. shakehead.gif
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hmm.. i thought if i have it in my pocket and i fall into the river or something..
or walking in the river..
would my light get busted?
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Bro Watta,

I think the best way to prove it..... is to trial the scenario, rite???? But get prepared to "sacrifice" your toy ????

After the dip....please ensure to open up all (everything) at your torch to blow dry (hair drier) it ASAP.

Then let us know....hahahaha... yawn.gif)
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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Sep 13 2008, 01:03 PM)
hmm.. i thought if i have it in my pocket and i fall into the river or something..
or walking in the river..
would my light get busted?
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most likely not... but depends on what light is it tongue.gif
if you have an aquarium at home, switch the light on and throw it in... when you're satisfied, remove it and check to see if any water got thro.
remember to lube all the o-rings first... this step is very important.
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Oh...yes...lube the lube!!!!
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mine is a TK11..
but i tink water can enter through the tail cap part..
and wat lube shud i use and where to get it??

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The easiest to get is either home uses... Singer Oil or even cooking oil is OK but it's a bit dirty coloured ...... The lube basically resist the water froom going in. As long as there's lube / oil around the "O" ring area, it's better than nothing.
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get the silicon type... do not use cooking oil or any petroleum based ones.
cooking oil will quickly "flow" away.
petroleum based ones will damage the rubber o-rings.

silicon ones are better because they will remain there on the threads and o-rings for quite some time. you can get them at any plumbing shops or Ace Hardware. don't worry, a little container will last you for a long time smile.gif

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Finally, the new batch of Jetbeam lights have arrived!
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If can get the silicon lube...it's the best!!!! or one can travel to any good tackle shop...there also got sale of silicon lube as well....

By the way, the Jet-III Pro series.... does it has the "constant brightness" circuitary as in Fenix TK series or direct pulls from battery?

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hmm..
ok..
but my question is will the water enter through the tail cap part and into the light itself?
or the tail cap part is completely sealed off?
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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 13 2008, 11:59 PM)
If can get the silicon lube...it's the best!!!! or one can travel to any good tackle shop...there also got sale of silicon lube as well....

By the way, the Jet-III Pro series.... does it has the "constant brightness" circuitary as in Fenix TK series or direct pulls from battery?
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If you mean regulator circuit, then it has... as for constant brightness, one have to refer to runtime charts.

Fenix TK11 runtime:
https://www.fenix-store.com/product_info.ph...products_id=497
http://www.light-reviews.com/fenix_tk11/

Jet3Pro runtime:
http://www.cpfreviews.com/JETBeam-Jet-III-Pro-IBS.php
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=196577

Which one has "constant brightness" on 100%/Turbo/High, you be the judge smile.gif

QUOTE(Watta?? @ Sep 14 2008, 09:46 AM)
hmm..
ok..
but my question is will the water enter through the tail cap part and into the light itself?
or the tail cap part is completely sealed off?
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if everything is cleaned and lubed, it water should not enter thro the tail cap or switch, unless you take it for diving!
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oh..
but im not willing to sacrifice my TK11 jus to try..
i'll update next time if my light every falls into water..
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QUOTE(Watta?? @ Sep 14 2008, 11:06 AM)
oh..
but im not willing to sacrifice my TK11 jus to try..
i'll update next time if my light every falls into water..
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haha.. yawn.gif) go and try swimming pools first! or your home's bath tub !.


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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 14 2008, 10:45 AM)
If you mean regulator circuit, then it has... as for constant brightness, one have to refer to runtime charts.

Fenix TK11 runtime:
https://www.fenix-store.com/product_info.ph...products_id=497
http://www.light-reviews.com/fenix_tk11/

Jet3Pro runtime:
http://www.cpfreviews.com/JETBeam-Jet-III-Pro-IBS.php
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=196577

Which one has "constant brightness" on 100%/Turbo/High, you be the judge smile.gif
Wow...looks like JetBeam III Pro has better "constant level" output than Fenix!!! and so is the price as well!! whistling.gif

Fenix definitely has a strong head-on competition!!!!! Personally, I would choose JetBeam III Pro as well.

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yes... but note the runtime too.
Jet3Pro can only hold on for approx 1.5 hours till output reaches 50%.
TK11 for approx 2.5 hours till output reaches 50% but it decreases gradually.

i guess Fenix is only claiming "constant brightness" for the general mode...
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Well, there's alway "claims of claims!!!" from manufacturerlah... if they claimed that "constant brightness" therefore it should not drop anything below 3% from the original lumen otherwise...what's the constant brightness claim for???? ............. for marketing only lor!... LOL
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anyone still interested in a highly programmable light - the Liteflux LF5XT?
I still have one unit (black) and my offer is RM 230 inc. shipping... if you are really interested but the price is a tad bit high, PM me and I'll consider another offer smile.gif

Info here:
http://www.liteflux.com/english/product_de...?act=1&index=18

Thanks smile.gif

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Hi guys, just want to announce an new arrival of CREE flashlight can use either 3pcs AA battery or 2pcs AA (if remove the 2nd half of the flashlight body). The beam output is brighter than Fenix TK11 (Tried comparing it already). Also the flashlight is able to throw further and brighter than Fenix TK11 and price is cheap too RM95 only. However, the downside is that there is no constant brightness i think (have not try it out yet) and its much bulkier in terms of size.

If you notice the burst out beam (high beam) in close distance and has a focus beam (see pic) suitable for far distance. Who said you can't have 2 worlds in ONE flashlight. You are welcome to drop by at our shop in SS15 Subang Jaya to view (CLICK HERE FOR MAP). TQ


*THE BRIGHTEST MODEL* POLICE 25 WATT CREE LED Luxeon Flashlight/Torch

Price: RM95 per piece
Postage Fee (Pos Laju / Skynet): Peninsular RM10, Sarawak RM15, Sabah/Labuan RM15
Item Condition: Brand New


* Full Aluminium Body
* 1st for low beam, 2nd click for high beam & 3rd click high beam strobe light
* Heavy & solid body suitable for self defence
* Burst out beam suitable for close distance & focus beam (see the pic) suitable for far distance ~ Basically 2 worlds in ONE flashlight
* Uses 3pcs AA battery once remove the middle body (refer to pic) it uses 2pcs AA battery
* Latest LED Technology makes it shine more focused and brighter
* Water Resistant & Shock Proof
* LED Life of up to 50,000 hours
* 3 "AA" Battery (Included)
* Colour: Black

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As long as it's good torch...am interested....do you know how many lumen ?
Can take a photo comparison between TK11 and this new torch : 10M and 100M and 200M?
Can we use 1x 14500 using only the back extra tubing as main shaft? as 3x AAA is a bit too long to carry as EDC. 1x 14500 would be the best!.

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As long as it's good torch...am interested....do you know how many lumen ?
Can take a photo comparison between TK11 and this new torch : 10M and 100M and 200M?
Can we use 1x 14500  using only the back extra tubing as main shaft? as 3x AAA is a bit too long to carry as EDC. 1x 14500 would be the best!.
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Hi, nope i don't know how many lumens is it. There is no specs provided & i do not have the equipment to measure it.

You can make comparison with the previous photo we took for TK10. It's better you go to the shop to see, cuz i am not able to take the photos due to lots of college exam and projects. Also i am only a part-timer, i don't have the product with me have to go take from shop which i seldom go cuz busy with college life. Seriously no time. cry.gif Sorry.

I am not sure if you can use 1 x 14500 battery as i don't have these batteries to try it, you can bring the battery over to the shop and try it out. FYI it uses 3pcs AA not 3pcs AAA. TQ

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Is that a real CREE??

What emitter is it using?
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Bro Pedro

I think it's using Luxeon!.

Gadgetworld2u,

Sorry my typo error...it's 3xAA and not 3xAAA.
Since it can use 2 or 3x AA meaning it's circuit should be able to use between 2-4.7V therefore it should be able to use 1x 14500 provided the extra tubing for end part able to connect the front module.

From the photo taken....comparing TK10 and your new Police 25W Luxeon light....looks like TK10 still brighter leh..... just look at TK10 shining at the playground (children slide) and the tree....looks like Tk10 still brighter!.

i took the liberty to edit and paste your Police 25W torch to your TK10 comparison as below:

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If using Luxeon LED, I doubt it can outshine Q5 LED.

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Hi, as mentioned TK10 has a better burst lighting. However TK11 has a focus lighting. So i have made comparison with TK11 and the 25 watt flashlight is brighter than TK11 as when you shine both light at the same spot the 25watt overpowers the TK11. You can go to the shop and see it for yourself then you will know it, maybe you can post comment here to prove me right or wrong haha biggrin.gif . The shop has sold few units already (new arrival).

FYI the 25 watt in close distant is burst out beam and far distance its focus beam. So you can't compare TK10 and this 25 watt much cuz TK10 (burst out beam) is totally different from TK11 (focus beam) that why the picture it seems like TK10 is brighter.

If i am free maybe i will take a photo of TK11 and the 25 watt. But won't be so soon.......cuz really really busy till November, last year of college rclxms.gif

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Anyway..thanks for your info and best of LUCK for your exam....
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Thanks best of luck to you too in everything biggrin.gif !
Although flashlight collection hobby is fun, but do remember also to save some money don't spent too much. Petrol up everything up really hard nowadays. cry.gif
That's why i have to work to help lighten my family's burden. tongue.gif
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I think i am going bankrupt soon....
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Ya me too i already bankrupt. Last year college text book cost RM300 blink.gif i thought that was the worst already. But this year text book RM600 (one subject text book only) mad.gif THAT IS RIDICULOUS!!! We all had no choice but to photocopy..... tongue.gif

Ok finished my work. Have to go sleep already, have morning class otherwise will be going to class looking like a panda! sweat.gif

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Alrite....nite nite...sweetie dreams!
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From the pictures, the TK10 has a brighter hotspot and a brighter corona. It's pretty obvious.
Did you set your camera in Auto mode when you took those pictures?

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From the pictures, the TK10 has a brighter hotspot and a brighter corona. It's pretty obvious.
Did you set your camera in Auto mode when you took those pictures?
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I would believe the light put out a brighter spot, only because of the size of the reflector. But it definately won't put out more lumens than the TK10. Take a side by side shot of both lights together and you'll see what I meant.
And, geez, there's no such thing as a luxeon 25W... not for now, at least tongue.gif

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jus did come copy and paste..
and i still tink the TK10/TK11 will be much brighter..
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Hi, i am comparing by the focus beam which outbeats the TK11. If you all don't believe can just go to the shop the shopkeeper can demo to show you. Then you will see what i mean. TQ
Wait later when free will take a photo comparison of TK11 and the 25 watt flashlight. Will try to get it done asap....but now have lots of college project to do....so please be patient. TQ

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From the pictures, the TK10 has a brighter hotspot and a brighter corona. It's pretty obvious.
Did you set your camera in Auto mode when you took those pictures?
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Those field photos was not taken by me so i also dunno wat camera setting was used (we take the photos using Canon Ixus 570). You can just go to the shop can demo let you see. TQ

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I sincerely think that someone has to go to their shop (best at night, hahahaha) and get an actual test trial live comparison....

Too bad am too far....am from JB otherwise i will definitely go and test it out!.
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Everyone is welcomed to drop by at the shop emmm... no difference even if you come night or day cuz we are located inside a shopping mall/building where all the lights are on whole day cool2.gif. However for customer to make comparison we ussually switch off our shop lights.
Will try to get the photo done asap. So meanwhile do bear with me hehe. TQ
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he's only comparing the hotspot... of course it will be brighter (in terms of hotspot), the reflector is so big... but what's the point here?

but if it's brighter (in terms of output) than your TK10/TK11, then it's time to get a new light... tongue.gif

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yea..
gotta agree with nexro on that..
if its really brighter than TK10/TK11 then time to get a new light..

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Well if you compare TK10 to the 25 watt. No doubt TK10 is good for close distance cuz of the burst out light however it does not have the throw beam.

Well if TK11 & 25 watt. The TK11 has a focus beam, in close distance you will only see a dot of light and not burst out like TK10 & 25 watt. However, for far distance the 25 watt is able to shine brighter compare to the TK11 becuz of the big head and probably a bigger reflector so the 25 watt can throw further and brighter in terms of distance. Hope you all get what i mean kind of hard to explain tongue.gif

For now all i can say is just hold your horses & wait patiently for the photo biggrin.gif Then you all can continue to debate hehe

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looking forward to it..
but kinda broke now..
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I think you got your terms all jumbled up... hehe.

If you see a dot of light, it should look like a red or green laser. I don't have a flashlight that produces a dot of light, even if it's 1cm from the wall.

It's not burst, I think you meant flood. Try to use the correct terms or you'll get all your customers confused.

Throw = how far can the light be projected
Brightness = how much total output that comes out from the bezel end of a light

Throw is usually measured in Lux.
Brightness is usually measured in Lumens.
They are different.

Your light can probably throw very far and hence you'll get a high lux reading at that distance.
But in terms of brightness, it's definately not even close to the TK10/TK11.

What kind of LED is your light using? What's the drive current to the LED?

Come on, do a bit more research before you go all out selling your lights smile.gif The potential buyers seem to know more than you do tongue.gif

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I am not meaning that sort of dot.... sweat.gif
Yup i am meaning throw is by how far the light can shine.

Do forgive me if i have got my terms wrongly.........as i am not the person with all the knowledge like Einstein LOL. Unlike u Nexro bro you started your hobby collection long ago maybe before i was born sweat.gif i am only at the beginner stage only so sometimes you all ask questions i still have to refer to the technical people of the company. I am also at a learning stage here.......still studying in college LOL can't learn too much otherwise my brain will explode icon_question.gif college books are already killing me and don't have the spare time to do other researches.........all my time is spent to college and this part-time work.....and its not easy managing both Lelong and LYN with all the enquiries, payment processing, posting up new products, etc....every night have to work till 1am or 2am on top of that have my college project/homework/exams......... cry.gif rclxub.gif

FYI these are China OEM flashlight. There was no spec provided by supplier therefore i would now want to simply claim the lumens...etc. Unlike Fenix and other branded brand there is specs provided hence only will i state it. TQ

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Take it easy gadgetworld2u..... burst out light also known as sidespills.
Better ask your supplier about the Lumens emitting from your torch otherwise you'll gonna get more headache when customers like us wanting to know the lumens and other infos....

All the best.

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Hi guys, just want to announce an new arrival of CREE flashlight can use either 3pcs AA battery or 2pcs AA (if remove the 2nd half of the flashlight body). The beam output is brighter than Fenix TK11 (Tried comparing it already). Also the flashlight is able to throw further and brighter than Fenix TK11 and price is cheap too RM95 only. However, the downside is that there is no constant brightness i think (have not try it out yet) and its much bulkier in terms of size.

If you notice the burst out beam (high beam) in close distance and has a focus beam (see pic) suitable for far distance. Who said you can't have 2 worlds in ONE flashlight. You are welcome to drop by at our shop in SS15 Subang Jaya to view (CLICK HERE FOR MAP). TQ


*THE BRIGHTEST MODEL* POLICE 25 WATT CREE LED Luxeon Flashlight/Torch

Price: RM95 per piece
Postage Fee (Pos Laju / Skynet): Peninsular RM10, Sarawak RM15, Sabah/Labuan RM15
Item Condition: Brand New


    *  Full Aluminium Body
    * 1st for low beam, 2nd click for high beam & 3rd click high beam strobe light
    * Heavy & solid body suitable for self defence
    * Burst out beam suitable for close distance & focus beam (see the pic) suitable for far distance ~ Basically 2 worlds in ONE flashlight
    * Uses 3pcs AA battery once remove the middle body (refer to pic) it uses 2pcs AA battery
    * Latest LED Technology makes it shine more focused and brighter
    * Water Resistant & Shock Proof
    * LED Life of up to 50,000 hours
    * 3 "AA" Battery (Included)
    * Colour: Black

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Was in your shop last Saturday, indeed from your demo the CREE has a further throw. We were indoor and it was in the morning, so I am interested to see how bright it really is at night!

Currently I'm using Aurora WF-800 Cree Q5 (takes up up to 17v batteries) and I'm really satisfied with its throw, which outranges
TK10 and TK11. I'm mixing 2 unprotected rechargeable CR123 and 2 protected CR123, can I ask the experts here whether this will harm the flashlight?
I can't fit 4 protected batteries in, that's why I have to resort to this config...

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Hi guys,

Are those torch from http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/ any good? Are they reliable/lasting? I wish to get a torch with is brighter than 2XX lumens smile.gif
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Well, looks not bad.....certain product are slight more expensive than other site.....services wise...haven't tried from this site before....
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I ordered Jetbeam Jet2 pro from Nexro edi, can't wait for it's arrival, Nexro-you price rocks man, even singapore dealer cannot match your price eventhough they are so call tax free country...smile.gif

will get the jet3 pro ultra once have fund for the battery...smile.gif

Here are some simple review of the jet3 pro for you guys to read....
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...2005-52,GGLG:en


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Hi guys,

Are those torch from http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/ any good? Are they reliable/lasting? I wish to get a torch with is brighter than 2XX lumens smile.gif
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if you want cheap and reliable, i would recommend you Romisen RC-F4, it uses 2 pcs of cr123 battery.

http://www.qualitychinagoods.com/romisen-c...rcf4-p-836.html

No need to buy rechargeable battery as Tesco RM2.99 cr123 battery output is brighter than using rechargeable.

Tested with my friends Fenix P3D Q5 led with smooth reflector, head on the P3D loses on the brightness and throw, P3D have white light as it uses Q5 led, where as RC-F4 has 10% of yellow tint cause it uses P4 led.
P3D throw losse to RC-F4 due to the depth of the reflector, RC-F4 got twice the depth of P3D so that's why it can throw futher....smile.gif RC-F4 come with OP reflector.

But build quality P3D wins, but what we need is bright and reliable lights right.....smile.gif

For RC-F4 review, you can click here but you have to scroll down and look for ROMISEN RC-F4....
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=176577

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Thanks for the info guys. But I'm looking at something which is brighter than 5XX lumens. Actually I'm interested at the Aurora AK-P7. Hows yours patchin?


Added on September 17, 2008, 9:53 pmBtw, shipment from qualitychinagoods is quite fast. A friend of mine ordered few stuff from them and it reached Malaysia in 3/4 days biggrin.gif

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Thanks for the info guys. But I'm looking at something which is brighter than 5XX lumens. Actually I'm interested at the Aurora AK-P7. Hows yours patchin?
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My 2 units aurora ak-p7 sold out within 2 days of notice... hahaha.... therefore i am not having any aurora ak-p7 anymore.....900 lumens!!!! drool.gif

some of friend just grab the torch from me and threw the money in exchange as they wanted to fish "sotong" on the sea! straight away. They all came back with "fruitful" catch due to the "BRIGHTNESS" of the torch which attracts "sotongs"!. rclxub.gif
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u gonna bring in aurora AK-P7 again ar?
maybe i'll get it if i got budget..
damn poisoned by the 900lumens..
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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 17 2008, 09:55 PM)
My 2 units aurora ak-p7 sold out within 2 days of notice... hahaha.... therefore i am not having any aurora ak-p7 anymore.....900 lumens!!!!  drool.gif

some of friend just grab the torch from me and threw the money in exchange as they wanted to fish "sotong" on the sea! straight away. They all came back with "fruitful" catch due to the "BRIGHTNESS" of the torch which attracts "sotongs"!.  rclxub.gif
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Is it really that SUPER bright as compared to your TK11? biggrin.gif
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Hi all, here is the comparison photo of the Fenix TK11 (2pcs CR123 Battery) & Police 25 watt Cree LED (3pcs AA battery). All batteries are new/fully charged already. TQ

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QUOTE(slk @ Sep 17 2008, 09:50 PM)
Thanks for the info guys. But I'm looking at something which is brighter than 5XX lumens. Actually I'm interested at the Aurora AK-P7. Hows yours patchin?


Added on September 17, 2008, 9:53 pmBtw, shipment from qualitychinagoods is quite fast. A friend of mine ordered few stuff from them and it reached Malaysia in 3/4 days  biggrin.gif
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frankly, the AK-P7 doesn't impress me. 900 lumens is rated by the manufacturer. Frankly, it only close to my RC-T5. The RC-T5 is a 4x Cree Q2 light driven by two 18650 cells.
900 lumens is way over-rated... read some reviews. Don't trust everything that's stated smile.gif
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u gonna bring in aurora AK-P7 again ar?
maybe i'll get it if i got budget..
damn poisoned by the 900lumens..
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Am just thinking of awaiting for the price to drop before ordering as not many ppl can afford it....

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Are you sure the RC-T5 uses Q2??

Mine is using Q4!
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Sep 17 2008, 08:56 PM)

No need to buy rechargeable battery as Tesco RM2.99 cr123 battery output is brighter than using rechargeable.

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That's really cheap! Which Tesco got sell coz I can't seem to find them! Energizer ones goes for above RM 10 per piece!
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QUOTE(-Panadol- @ Sep 18 2008, 02:32 PM)
That's really cheap! Which Tesco got sell coz I can't seem to find them! Energizer ones goes for above RM 10 per piece!
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All klang valley tesco is selling, look for tesco brand battery, battery normal located at all payment counters.
Tesco battery can last me quite long. cheap does not mean it's no good...smile.gif
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looks like the 25watt police torch is really kinda good at its throw..
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gadgetworld2u,

i would assume that 25watt police torch reflector is much deeper reflector than tk11?
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Sep 18 2008, 05:24 PM)
gadgetworld2u,

i would assume that 25watt police torch reflector is much deeper reflector than tk11?
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From what i see...the reflector is much deeper and bigger than TK11.


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looks like the 25watt police torch is really kinda good at its throw..
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So i presume...it's time to kick TK11 off and change it to 25W Police???? rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 18 2008, 05:36 PM)
From what i see...the reflector is much deeper and bigger than TK11.
that's explain the long throw ability....smile.gif
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sweat.gif that is what had been trying to explain since the beginning...... now the picture proves it biggrin.gif
Yes 25 watt has a deeper and bigger reflector compared to TK11.
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but i wont kick out my TK11..
had many bad experiences with those china made police brand torches..
i had a few..
and most of them after a few drops on the floor..
cant even turn it on adi..
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So far i had no problems with it and had no complains in fact customers came back to purchase more drool.gif. Actually the china Police flashlight also have grades...so must know how to choose... blush.gif We however refrain from selling those of low quality, whenever there is new product we always check & test it out 1st before selling....

For example like the 9 LED flashlight have 2 versions.

Version 1: Super cheap price but the body is light made of very thin aluminium, gets dented easily, only the cap can be removed while the LED head is fixed and normally is very colourful but colour fades after a couple of months (mostly available in pasar malam)

Version 2: Like the one we are selling currently. Heavy body comes only in black & silver, the led head can be removed.

Most likely it will depend on how you use also. I had been using the same police flashlight for more than a year now had no problems with it also drop it many many times already - all push off my table by my cats vmad.gif cuz they want to sleep on my table LOL. In fact when small my parents always buy the Energizer flashlight bundle with the batteries and always spoil in less than a month time i think by now should have at least 30-50 Energizer flashlights thrown already.

Also this is subjected to customers budget, that why we have different ranges of flashlight: low price, medium price & high price. biggrin.gif So basically the more you pay the better the quality rclxms.gif

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if u look a few pages back..
u'll see a pic of my collection and it has a police brand light there..
me and my bros bought 5 of them and now left with oni 1 working..
the one i have only dropped once recently and its buggy already..
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QUOTE(pedro @ Sep 18 2008, 09:19 AM)
Are you sure the RC-T5 uses Q2??

Mine is using Q4!
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unsure... it wasn't stated so i did not expect a Q4 in there. based on the output and drive current, i would say mine's a Q2. I also read it somewhere else...

anyhow, there's an RC-T6 now! 6x Cree Q4s ! but dunno why only stated 500 lumens output tongue.gif

QUOTE(Watta?? @ Sep 18 2008, 07:38 PM)
but i wont kick out my TK11..
had many bad experiences with those china made police brand torches..
i had a few..
and most of them after a few drops on the floor..
cant even turn it on adi..
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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 18 2008, 08:11 PM)
So far i had no problems with it and had no complains in fact customers came back to purchase more  drool.gif. Actually the china Police flashlight also have grades...so must know how to choose... blush.gif We however refrain from selling those of low quality, whenever there is new product we always check & test it out 1st before selling....

For example like the 9 LED flashlight have 2 versions.

Version 1: Super cheap price but the body is light made of very thin aluminium, gets dented easily, only the cap can be removed while the LED head is fixed and normally is very colourful but colour fades after a couple of months (mostly available in pasar malam)

Version 2: Like the one we are selling currently. Heavy body comes only in black & silver, the led head can be removed.

Most likely it will depend on how you use also. I had been using the same police flashlight for more than a year now had no problems with it also drop it many many times already - all push off my table by my cats  vmad.gif cuz they want to sleep on my table LOL. In fact when small my parents always buy the Energizer flashlight bundle with the batteries and always spoil in less than a month time i think by now should have at least 30-50 Energizer flashlights thrown already.

Also this is subjected to customers budget, that why we have different ranges of flashlight: low price, medium price & high price.  biggrin.gif So basically the more you pay the better the quality  rclxms.gif
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you're right, normally they come in many grades... hehe... just gotta know what and where to get.
got any pictures of the insides of the light? like the bezel end and battery contacts?

watta,
no warranty for those police lights ah?

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No lah.... all Police torches came without warranties....maybe personal warranties only from seller....

GOOD torches like Fenix/JetBeam/SureFire/etc branded torches all got warranties but of course....a price for it!...
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I still have 9 years warranty left for my Jetbeam if not mistaken!

Confirmed my RC-T5 is using Q4 as it came with some documentation!


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Hi nexro!
I m currently looking for a nitecore D10 , which i m so happy to
find that u hav them in your stock locally! Pls check your PM,
i need more details from u to proceed the order... can't wait to get hold
of it ..

After going thru plenty of reviews and comparisons, i believe it's time to give my nearly 1-year-old L1D an early retirement. =)

And i m glad to see so many flashaholics here too, cheers dude !!



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ginagg,
PM replied.
Thanks.

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hi guys! i just realized there are many people collecting flashlights! thats so very cool!

i'd collect them if i had the resources.

anyway, i am looking for a LED flashlight for a friend that should have 80-100 lumens spec.

anyone recommend a reasonably priced one and where can i get it around pj/kl? smile.gifsmile.gif
thanks so much!
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QUOTE(cjoey19 @ Sep 19 2008, 03:22 PM)
hi guys! i just realized there are many people collecting flashlights! thats so very cool!

i'd collect them if i had the resources.

anyway, i am looking for a LED flashlight for a friend that should have 80-100 lumens spec.

anyone recommend a reasonably priced one and where can i get it around pj/kl? smile.gifsmile.gif
thanks so much!
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Why get 80-100 lumens only???? Wasting $$$ lah....

Just topup a bit more and you'll get those 225-250 lumens type with 6 modes ---->High (100%), Mid (50%), Low (10%), Strobe (Fast), Strobe (slow) and SOS rclxub.gif


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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 19 2008, 03:27 PM)
Why get 80-100 lumens only???? Wasting $$$ lah....

Just topup a bit more and you'll get those 225-250 lumens type with 6 modes ---->High (100%), Mid (50%), Low (10%), Strobe (Fast), Strobe (slow) and SOS  rclxub.gif
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Agree with patchin. Get yourself a good light and it will last you so long maybe to your next generation tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cjoey19 @ Sep 19 2008, 03:22 PM)
hi guys! i just realized there are many people collecting flashlights! thats so very cool!

i'd collect them if i had the resources.

anyway, i am looking for a LED flashlight for a friend that should have 80-100 lumens spec.

anyone recommend a reasonably priced one and where can i get it around pj/kl? smile.gifsmile.gif
thanks so much!
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By the way, what's the budget is like???
Maybe we can assist in getting some good deals here.....among our MSM members.... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(cjoey19 @ Sep 19 2008, 03:22 PM)
hi guys! i just realized there are many people collecting flashlights! thats so very cool!

i'd collect them if i had the resources.

anyway, i am looking for a LED flashlight for a friend that should have 80-100 lumens spec.

anyone recommend a reasonably priced one and where can i get it around pj/kl? smile.gifsmile.gif
thanks so much!
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Fenix L1D or Olight T15-Q5 (2008 version) or NiteCore D10 may fit into that bill... ie ~120 lumen with single AA battery

Olight T15 you can get for ~RM170/-
Fenix L1D <-- can ask Justin or mr gadget
NiteCore D10 <-- can ask nexpro if he still have

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How about my RC-T5,Output is a lot more for a little bit more expensive but you get batts and charger!
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my Nitecore D10 is now almost 2 months old and i'm lovin it more and more each day...apparently this time round, nitecore has been very modest about their lumens rating on the D10...smile.gif still having fun psycho-ing my friends to buy their own lights as well cuz gadgetworld2u's shop is nearby...hahaha
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second last of my nitecore D10 just sold to ginagg.
only have one D10 (Cree Q5) left... new ones would be Osram GD LED sad.gif

if you really use your light, instead of just for showing off and shining at white walls, 80 - 100 lumen lights are already more than enough. i don't see why i would need a 500 lumen or 1000 lumen light... i do have one but it's more for fun than to actually use.
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so...what's the difference between those two then?
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One is too bright for near usage and one is just nice for near usage...

If you wanna use it for range of say... within 30 meters... 100 feets..... 900 lumen is good for flood lights....

If you use it for near usage say... within 10 meters.....33 feets... normal 225-250 lumens is good.....

If you use 900 lumens for near usage...you will find it too bright.....

If you wanna shine somewhere far away....say.... 300 metres....1000 feets...better get a spot type lights to shine far distances.....

all depending on your requirements......
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My latest addition.....
Jet2 Pro IBS
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My current small collection
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I received my nitecore D10 this afternoon, i really like it as my edc.
thanks nexro.

i will definitely recommend more ppl to buy from u soon!

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hey guys....

while googling about flashlight i found this lol...

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/581888/10_po...lashlight_hack/

how to build a cheap and powerful flashlight for under 10USD sweat.gif

involves changing the bulb to a Krypton bulb and drilling away the ridges inside the holder and replace the 2 'AA' batteries with 3 Lithium 123 batteries sweat.gif


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Hi all, here is the comparison photo of the Fenix TK11 (2pcs CR123 Battery) & Police 25 watt Cree LED (3pcs AA battery). All batteries are new/fully charged already. TQ

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the tk11 is in general or turbo mode btw?

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nice..
btw.. would i be able to get krypton bulbs in normal hardware shops?
maybe i'll mod mine..
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All in the turbo mode. All the battery are new/fully charged also.
If TK11 in general mode can't shoot so far. sweat.gif

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who sell solarforce flashlight??

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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 22 2008, 08:45 PM)
All in the turbo mode. All the battery are new/fully charged also.
If TK11 in general mode can't shoot so far.  sweat.gif
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btw found a short video on the TK10 which from what i've known, is similar to the TK11...



so the police 25w cree is brighter than that? shocking.gif

sorry for asking too many questions...

quite interesting in purchasing one of em' lol...
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Hi, as i have PM to you this afternoon.
We will answer all your question when you drop by to the shop on Wednesday & will demo it to you so you can have better understanding, its hard to explain by typing. TQ

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no1 are solarforce seller?

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just got the 25w police light from gadgetworld2u's shop...

a guy named Danny was there...

so far just tested inside my house...

the beam is very narrow but bright....

will try it out later outdoors at night lol...

the thing is huge though sweat.gif

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thanks for the update......hahahaha.... it's just like Aurora AK-P7 900 lumen's body lah.......big and bulky but it's good for hitting some thugs!!!!



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thanks for the update......hahahaha.... it's just like Aurora AK-P7 900 lumen's body lah.......big and bulky but it's good for hitting some thugs!!!!
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well this 1 sure looks like it can knock someone out lol...

build quality can be felt too lol...

tested at the shop comparing this to the TK11...

the TK11 does have a larger beam but in terms of brightness is not as bright as this lol...

but i think the only downside is that this flashlight does not have a power regulator circuit...

so if using alkaline, it will slowly get dimmer and dimmer and dimmer....

gonna get some rechargeables hehe....
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 23 2008, 04:12 PM)
well this 1 sure looks like it can knock someone out lol...

build quality can be felt too lol...

tested at the shop comparing this to the TK11...

the TK11 does have a larger beam but in terms of brightness is not as bright as this lol...

but i think the only downside is that this flashlight does not have a power regulator circuit...

so if using alkaline, it will slowly get dimmer and dimmer and dimmer....

gonna get some rechargeables hehe....
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Looks like the Police 25W torch has some body (tube) extender???? So, if without the extender what type of battery is it using???? 1x18650? or 3x CR123A?

Hmmm...no circuit driver???? so meaning it's pulling direct power lor..... no wonder it's cheap and good!.
If wanna add circuit, just add on or MOD it .... thumbup.gif

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Looks like the Police 25W torch has some body (tube) extender???? So, if without the extender what type of battery is it using???? 1x18650? or 3x CR123A?

Hmmm...no circuit driver???? so meaning it's pulling direct power lor..... no wonder it's cheap and good!.
If wanna add circuit, just add on or MOD it .... thumbup.gif
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not too sure on what other type of batts it can use, but it looks like it can only strictly fit batteries the width of an AA battery as the inside is thick alluminium sweat.gif

the light can be used with 3 or 2 baterries by removing one of the sections of the body....

with 2 batteries, on low mode it remained the same as with 3 batteries but on high or strobe mode, the brightness is significantly reduced compared to with 3 batteries...
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Just wondering if it can use 1x or 2x 14500 batteries??? since it's the same sized as AA...... but please don't try.... as it might blows up the LED!!!!!
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 23 2008, 04:12 PM)
well this 1 sure looks like it can knock someone out lol...

build quality can be felt too lol...

tested at the shop comparing this to the TK11...

the TK11 does have a larger beam but in terms of brightness is not as bright as this lol...

but i think the only downside is that this flashlight does not have a power regulator circuit...

so if using alkaline, it will slowly get dimmer and dimmer and dimmer....

gonna get some rechargeables hehe....
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Hi bro,

It would be definitely good if you can perform the following test - ceiling bounce test:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpo...67&postcount=27

After this test then we can only confirm which 1 is brighter. As from the look of your police light, it seems to me it can give further throw, but bright or not bright, we need to do some test.

The ceiling bounce test in the following post will show you what I'm trying to say. wink.gif

Ceiling Bounce Test

Cheers.

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Hi bro,

It would be definitely good if you can perform the following test - ceiling bounce test:

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showpo...67&postcount=27

After this test then we can only confirm which 1 is brighter. As from the look of your police light, it seems to me it can give further throw, but bright or not bright, we need to do some test.

The ceiling bounce test in the following post will show you what I'm trying to say.  wink.gif

Ceiling Bounce Test

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i think should ask gadgetworld2u for that as i don't have any other lights to compare with...

this is my first and only proper light lol...
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oh..
so thats call ceiling bounce..
i always do that to with my TK11 in my room for reading purpose..
kinda lazy to get out of da bed and turn off the light when im done..
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oh..
so thats call ceiling bounce..
i always do that to with my TK11 in my room for reading purpose..
kinda lazy to get out of da bed and turn off the light when im done..
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Wow, you do that in your room for reading purposes, that is really COOL. notworthy.gif

You sure knows how to fully utilize a damn good powerful light - TK11. thumbup.gif

I should try out your reading style next time, but nowadays really lazy to read books anymore, cause always online to search for any information I need.
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nah..
not really reading books..
reading comics actually..
even if i hold my L2T beside the comic..
its bright enough to read properly...
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gadgetworld2u,

your 25Watt Police really outclass TK11 all the way, with 3AA battery, with 4AA smoke also cannot smell.....smile.gif

Was at your shop, chit chat with Danny-friendly dude....smile.gif
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Thanks for the great feedback. Ya can also use it with 4pcs AA it be brighter but to use 4pcs AA battery you will have to buy 2pcs of the 25 watt and combine the body together. Max 4pcs AA battery, no point goin to 5pcs cuz output is the same but the runtime may last longer. biggrin.gif

Hehe ya he is a friendly dude.
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Thanks for the great feedback. Ya can also use it with 4pcs AA it be brighter but to use 4pcs AA battery you will have to buy 2pcs of the 25 watt and combine the body together. Max 4pcs AA battery, no point goin to 5pcs cuz output is the same but the runtime may last longer.  biggrin.gif

Hehe ya he is a friendly dude.
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You're sure that your torchlight doesn't have the proper circuit driver???? If go directly from max 3xAA to 4x AA, you'll overdrive the LED which will "pop" your LED or overburn it!. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(patchin @ Sep 26 2008, 07:36 PM)
You're sure that your torchlight doesn't have the proper circuit driver???? If go directly from max 3xAA to 4x AA, you'll overdrive the LED which will "pop" your LED or overburn it!.  whistling.gif
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No problem it has power resistor. However, if you want to use AA 3.0V use at your own risk. Please note that this 25 watt doesn't have the digitally regulated output - maintains constant brightness even when battery is low. Also this 25 watt is not LED or luxeon led, It's CREE led.

I have personally just bought one for my own use as well. Had been using it for few days now. So far no problem.
Had several regular customers bought it more than 3-4 weeks back already them came back bringing their friends to buy also. As of now it think have already sold over 10pcs of this flashlight no complains at all. whistling.gif

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it's a Cree P4 led

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it's a Cree P4 led
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 23 2008, 03:38 PM)
just got the 25w police light from gadgetworld2u's shop...

a guy named Danny was there...

so far just tested inside my house...

the beam is very narrow but bright....

will try it out later outdoors at night lol...

the thing is huge though sweat.gif

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hi man can i ask u .. how much u buy it ? have ppl wan sell me Rm100 wor
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hi man can i ask u .. how much u buy it ? have ppl wan sell me Rm100 wor
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bought from gadgetworld2u for rm95 thumbup.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=11&t=691975
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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Sep 27 2008, 02:40 AM)
i work in shoping here .. my friend have sell it .. but i no offer wit him .. he open Rm100 . tomoro i try ask him can gef me Rm80 of not ^^ tongue.gif
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honestly, how did you find that out? blink.gif
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similiar product except here it is written 5W and under rated the lumens like surefire does all the time...smile.gif
this is the first time i see a china led flashlight that under rated their lumens....
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14972

cree P4 has been a bright led cause i have a romisen cree P4 RC-F4 which is brighter than my friend's p3d Q5...smile.gif

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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Sep 27 2008, 03:46 PM)
similiar product except here it is written 5W and under rated the lumens like surefire does all the time...smile.gif
this is the first time i see a china led flashlight that under rated their lumens....
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14972

cree P4 has been a bright led cause i have a romisen cree P4 RC-F4 which is brighter than my friend's p3d Q5...smile.gif
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the p4 is supposed to be the dimmest of all Crees if not mistaken lol...
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Sep 27 2008, 03:46 PM)
similiar product except here it is written 5W and under rated the lumens like surefire does all the time...smile.gif
this is the first time i see a china led flashlight that under rated their lumens....
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14972

cree P4 has been a bright led cause i have a romisen cree P4 RC-F4 which is brighter than my friend's p3d Q5...smile.gif
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They may looked the same.... but i sincerely think that their configurations are different!.
Most China made torchlight's bodies nowadays having almost the same configurations but the different is the LED and it's driver system.....

First of all, the advertised DX is 5W on body and gadgetworld2u's is 25W on the body. The LED's looks the same to our raw eye view .....but i believed that their system configurations are totally different....

From my point of view, most china made torchlights normally will over-rate their products and hardly will under-rate ....as to market their products against competitions!.... rclxub.gif

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Yup its true as some brand claim their flashlight lumens differently. Well it depends on how they measure the lumens.

For example:

Surefire E1B backup (80 lumens) and Fenix E20 (109 lumens) but the Surefire E1B backup is slightly brighter than the Fenix E20.
The reason being is that Surefire measure the flashlight brightness from a distance of 100m or so (forgot the exact distance already), Fenix i am not sure maybe from 50m?? This will influence the lumens measurement. tongue.gif

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the p4 is supposed to be the dimmest of all Crees if not mistaken lol...
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well, the only reason my P4 is brighter is it have deeper reflector than P3D -that's why my P4 the P3D outclass in brightness & throw, which is why the police 25W can out shine TK11.
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QUOTE(PrinceCaspien @ Sep 27 2008, 09:02 PM)
well, the only reason my P4 is brighter is it have deeper reflector than P3D -that's why my P4 the P3D outclass in brightness & throw, which is why the police 25W can out shine TK11.
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The deeper the reflector won't affect the brightness of the lights, it will only affect the THROW of the light. nod.gif

The same LED will produce the same amount of lights no matter what reflector you put with it. cool2.gif
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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 27 2008, 08:46 PM)
Yup its true as some brand claim their flashlight lumens differently. Well it depends on how they measure the lumens.

For example:

Surefire E1B backup (80 lumens) and Fenix E20 (109 lumens) but the Surefire E1B backup is slightly brighter than the Fenix E20.
The reason being is that Surefire measure the flashlight brightness from a distance of 100m or so (forgot the exact distance already), Fenix i am not sure maybe from 50m?? This will influence the lumens measurement.  tongue.gif
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wow, where did you get that information from ?
i've never heard of people measure a light's brightness based on distance blink.gif
better get your facts right... even for an example. try to email surefire or at the least, read from their website.
then email Fenix and ask them to explain how they measure the brightness of any of their lights.
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QUOTE(justin78 @ Sep 28 2008, 11:45 PM)
The deeper the reflector won't affect the brightness of the lights, it will only affect the THROW of the light.  nod.gif

The same LED will produce the same amount of lights no matter what reflector you put with it.  cool2.gif
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i've been trying to explain that since a few pages back laugh.gif
but it's okay... my little keychain LED is actually "brighter" than my 10W HID blush.gif
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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 29 2008, 12:03 AM)
wow, where did you get that information from ?
i've never heard of people measure a light's brightness based on distance  blink.gif
better get your facts right... even for an example. try to email surefire or at the least, read from their website.
then email Fenix and ask them to explain how they measure the brightness of any of their lights.
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I am not sure how Fenix measure their lumens i am just putting an example. As told by the Surefire distributor other than using the integrating sphere photometers to measure the lumen they also measure lumens based on a distance.

We had made comparison with E1B backup (80 lumens) & Fenix E20 (109 lumens) and E1B was brighter than E20 at the same distance. How to explain that? Since nexro you are more experience from your long years in researching in flashlight (most likely when i was still a small kid tongue.gif )........looking forward for your teaching. notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 29 2008, 01:17 AM)
I am not sure how Fenix measure their lumens i am just putting an example. As told by the Surefire distributor other than using the integrating sphere photometers to measure the lumen they also measure lumens based on a distance.

We had made comparison with E1B backup (80 lumens) & Fenix E20 (109 lumens) and E1B was brighter than E20 at the same distance. How to explain that? Since nexro you are more experience from your long years in researching in flashlight (most likely when i was still a small kid tongue.gif )........looking forward for your teaching. notworthy.gif
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Read this: http://www.opticsplanet.net/surefire-flash...t-features.html
Scroll to the topic "Light Output: Candlepower vs. Lumens". There is an example picture of how it was tested with the integrating sphere photometer. Judging from the pic, I doubt its less than 1m so 100m is a bit too far.

In my opinion, Fenix measures lumens out of the emiter or take from LED manufacturer spec while Surefire measures them out of the from of the of the light.
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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 29 2008, 01:17 AM)
I am not sure how Fenix measure their lumens i am just putting an example. As told by the Surefire distributor other than using the integrating sphere photometers to measure the lumen they also measure lumens based on a distance.

We had made comparison with E1B backup (80 lumens) & Fenix E20 (109 lumens) and E1B was brighter than E20 at the same distance. How to explain that? Since nexro you are more experience from your long years in researching in flashlight (most likely when i was still a small kid tongue.gif )........looking forward for your teaching. notworthy.gif
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come on, all i'm saying is this: do your research, read up, before making any claims. you seem like you're more interested in selling your lights.
don't believe what other people say fully. find out for yourself. just because surefire says their E1B is 80 lumens doesn't mean it is. It could be more, it could be less. There's so much information from other more resourceful users.

oh, unfortunately i haven't been in the flashlight scene since you were a small kid... i just recently got to know a few good sites to learn and a good site would be CPF smile.gif

good example would be in the post above this smile.gif people actually take the effort to learn smile.gif
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Ok will do research it if i have spare time as i am busy with coll studies now + work so not much spare time left hehe
As you know i am only managing the sales of the internet, at first as a girl i knew nuts about all this but since joining the company learned a lot of stuff also reading this flashlight thread widen my knowledge. Thank you notworthy.gif

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come on, all i'm saying is this: do your research, read up, before making any claims. you seem like you're more interested in selling your lights.


I admit i have a lot of learning to do, i accept this fact and i don't mind you teaching/telling me. But its very heart pain for you to just say "i seem like more interested in selling flashlight"...........come on do your research, read up, before making such claims don't just only know how to use this statement against ppl the same goes for you making such claims about us without any reseaerch.
Obviously we have to sell, otherwise where is my salary going to come from?? Come on isn't that why you are selling Jetbeam flashlight for......

If we are all out for selling only why would i say that


The 25 Watt flashlight has better throw than TK11 and making this claim would affect the sales of Fenix. Come on the 25 watt is RM95 and TK11 is RM255 of course we would like to sell TK11 more i am sure the margin is better............(This topic was discussed in few pages back)

The same goes for the case of Fenix E01 a customer asked comparing it to cheap China flashlight.

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Quoted reply to the customer on my Fenix thread.
Anyway it will depend to which China flashlight you are comparing with?

As i do not have any China flashlight using single AAA battery. I will make comparison with the China Police flashlight we have which uses single AA battery (CLICK HERE to view the flashlight i am referring to).

Frankly, the china police AA flashlight is brighter than the Fenix E01. This factor maybe be influence by the different type of battery and reflector of the flashlight. Also the police AA flashight is twice the size of Fenix E01. Well the Fenix E01 of course has the body quality. The Fenix E01 is only for short distance lighting (useless for far range).

It all depends on what you need & want. The Fenix E01 is small in terms of size hence its a lot lighter. Also the E01 flashlight is suitable as a gift and as keychain.

For better understanding you are welcomed to drop by at our shop in SS15 Subang Jaya (CLICK HERE FOR MAP) to view the flashlight and make comparison. TQ


Also another case a person asking about a RM14 charger how long does it take to charge 2300mAh batteries. I recommended him to go Careffour to buy Energizer charger which is better in quality and at reasonable pricing RM30++. Which i think he took my advice. You can ask Nightstalker1993 as he was the one asking.

Come on i wouldn't do all of this by turning down the business opportunity or make less profits if we are only interested in selling as you claimed!

PS: Do you know that nexro you always use the "come on" word is very annoying! If you remove the "come on" words which i used above wouldn't it sound better and not so sarcastic. Just my 2 cents.

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QUOTE(nexro @ Sep 29 2008, 12:03 AM)
wow, where did you get that information from ?
i've never heard of people measure a light's brightness based on distance  blink.gif
better get your facts right... even for an example. try to email surefire or at the least, read from their website.
then email Fenix and ask them to explain how they measure the brightness of any of their lights.
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hi nexro..sorry i don't want to offend anyone here.. but i think you should know that surefire measures their lumens from 1 meter distance..
where as other flashlights like fenix who use CREE led measure the lumens at the led itself..

it's like surefire E1B, only 80 lumens uses 1x cr123 3v vs fenix E20, 109 lumens uses 2AA = 3v... but when it throws the beam at the same distance E1B is brighter..

actually a lot of people know how surefire measures the lumens....

and about the TK11 vs 25watt police CREE this two flashlights are using the same CREE Q5, but because the reflector is bigger for 25watt that is why it has a better throw..


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QUOTE(gadgetworld2u @ Sep 29 2008, 01:13 PM)
Ok will do research it if i have spare time as i am busy with coll studies now + work so not much spare time left hehe
As you know i am only managing the sales of the internet, at first as a girl i knew nuts about all this but since joining the company learned a lot of stuff also reading this flashlight thread widen my knowledge. Thank you  notworthy.gif
I admit i have a lot of learning to do, i accept this fact and i don't mind you teaching/telling me. But its very heart pain for you to just say "i seem like more interested in selling flashlight"...........come on do your research, read up, before making such claims don't just only know how to use this statement against ppl the same goes for you making such claims about us without any reseaerch. 
Obviously we have to sell, otherwise where is my salary going to come from?? Come on isn't that why you are selling Jetbeam flashlight for......

If we are all out for selling only why would i say that


The 25 Watt flashlight has better throw than TK11 and making this claim would affect the sales of Fenix. Come on the 25 watt is RM95 and TK11 is RM255 of course we would like to sell TK11 more i am sure the margin is better............(This topic was discussed in few pages back)

The same goes for the case of Fenix E01 a customer asked comparing it to cheap China flashlight.
Also another case a person asking about a RM14 charger how long does it take to charge 2300mAh batteries. I recommended him to go Careffour to buy Energizer charger which is better in quality and at reasonable pricing RM30++. Which i think he took my advice. You can ask Nightstalker1993 as he was the one asking.

Come on why would i do this for if we are all out for selling only to make money!

PS: Do you know that nexro you always use the "come on" word is very annoying! If you remove the "come on" words which i used above wouldn't it sound better and not so sarcastic. Just my 2 cents.
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sorry about that... i get where you're going now after some explanation from you know who smile.gif
and i'll cut down on the "come on" sweat.gif

btw, energizer charger's are not cheap... and they are not that good either. recommended ones are like Sanyo chargers with individual charging. don't get those that are timer based smile.gif


Added on September 29, 2008, 4:21 pm
QUOTE(danniechua @ Sep 29 2008, 03:24 PM)
hi nexro..sorry i don't want to offend anyone here.. but i think you should know that surefire measures their lumens from 1 meter distance..
where as other flashlights like fenix who use CREE led measure the lumens at the led itself..

it's like surefire E1B, only 80 lumens uses 1x cr123 3v vs fenix E20, 109 lumens uses 2AA = 3v... but when it throws the beam at the same distance E1B is brighter..

actually a lot of people know how surefire measures the lumens....

and about the TK11 vs 25watt police CREE this two flashlights are using the same CREE Q5, but because the reflector is bigger for 25watt that is why it has a better throw..
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hi dannie,
don't worry, you didn't offend anyone.
sorry, i don't know that surefire measures their lumens that way.

can you enlighten us as to how do they actually measure their lumens as described by you?
as far as i know, lux is measured from a distance of 1 meter.

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post Sep 29 2008, 04:25 PM

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No worries. I apologize too for the mistakes i made. Well not everybody is perfect lol. biggrin.gif

I have bought Energizer charge + 2pcs AA battery at RM38 from Carefour, quality wise is acceptable for me with that price range. The reason i recommended Energizer charger to the customer because he is looking for charger at budget price and as far as i know Energizer is the only branded brand having charger at RM30++ whereas other brand is above RM50. It be a different story if he is not concern about price.

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