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 Property Bubble Burst or Deflate ? V14 (发), Cherroy Most Forwarded Thread

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post Nov 17 2014, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(SaProp @ Nov 17 2014, 11:48 PM)
Bro, market this year slow because lot of investor aka speculator not buying, furthermore with govt intervention, it wouldn't be good for some time, not good to stretch to max, no body can predict accurate what is the future...always keep some when opp come, this is call opp cost.
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what you guys do to minimise losses? hold in with more cost? and hope got takers when you seling higher?

reduced profit and dispose is better bet.. nowadays due to technology. concept revolves very fast, what 3 tier seucrity, and etc, access card.. soon new project tumb print, how older ones can stay with prices same like new launch after factoring cost?
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:54 PM

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got a question, say since you giuys make develoeprs sales so bad.. if developers start discount 10-20% on top of the rebated price and etc..

what subsales fella will do?"
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post Nov 17 2014, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 17 2014, 11:53 PM)
if you don sell....you will never loss.  flex.gif
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holding requires cost, holding cost will cut even with profit agree?

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post Nov 17 2014, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 17 2014, 11:56 PM)
sub sales will do better.

if developer discount 20% then only can sell, high chance of abandon, due to cost overrun. you better don buy from developer. this one no joke. icon_idea.gif
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 17 2014, 11:58 PM)
no. when i buy that time, already plan to hold for long period. if opportunity come, will sell and make few hundred thousand.  drool.gif
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icic fight till end? credit lock one... pocket kosong since 70%, dun worry competition from newer launch?
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 18 2014, 12:02 AM)
you no worry wo....my wife earn a lot too rclxms.gif
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icic... working class.. commission base..
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Nov 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
This is stupid question .

Let uncle put some money to your pocket, who ask u buy from developer that have very bad sales..
If bad sales mean bad project lo still wanna bang your head there ah...wanna prove yoursf have very unique eye sigh issit...
So based on reason above, developer bad sales won't affec me coz I won't buy they project

Buy something that have hot demand and everyone grab..
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is there any part of bad singapore for them to give discount?
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post Nov 18 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(kradun @ Nov 18 2014, 12:10 AM)
U no worry subsales / new launch all beyond ur reach?
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u think possible or not? like studio cost 800k in pj old and got takers?
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post Nov 18 2014, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 18 2014, 09:17 AM)
Hope Ah Bear will "Die Heart" Sei Sam & proceed with his life & don't waste his life waiting for thing that never ever going to come by.

Interest increased - Failed 3 round

Budget will introduce more curb measure - Failed

GST will reduce price - Failed

Govt will Bulldozer house price - Failed
Bold Bold Bear become Failed Failed Bear liao.  doh.gif
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Oh so this is the main reason for ppl to stop bubble talking.. TS again derailed from topic.. the small size house will never and can never work.. remember this is malai... majority is malai..you cant do that..

land cost in malaysia only cost 10 to 20% ... and we arenot land scarce either..

Transaction down is failed?
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post Nov 18 2014, 11:27 AM

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No wonder BBB wanna start bubble threads.. to bring and end to bubble talk in LYN.. more ppl are starting to aware..

say not going to hapoen.. believe wont happen.. no reason to happen.. but spend time in bubble and reserve slots for trolling.. making threads as rubbish will be good start.. you want to MODS?

Whatever spouted.. all other countries has better features and safeguards.. but then it happen bubble.. drop price .. correction.. inclusive of the small units in singapore and hong kong of which are land scare..

getting desperate to prevent ppl from talking bout bubble.. jololkia loan repayment starting soon next month..with current bad transaction..it will go worse..
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post Nov 18 2014, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(tnang @ Nov 18 2014, 10:35 AM)
I no buy this year, in fact also cancel 1 booking, for bbw, next year he may claimed inflated 220k, how to buy?
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Will you even considers to buy inflated properties.. laohuu is heavy debt taker
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post Nov 18 2014, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Nov 18 2014, 01:17 PM)
Bear bear u can consider savanna Bangi, 360k only
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Stay bangi sumore stay condo?
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post Nov 18 2014, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(zenjet @ Nov 18 2014, 01:31 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3386394

Bukit Suria ~  whistling.gif

Untuk bearbear ~ smile.gif
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Been there done that.. sutera pines condo
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post Nov 18 2014, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 18 2014, 02:01 PM)
Bangi cannot, he claimed Malai area no potential, he is mono racial concept fellow, though i donno why he like to lived in chinese area as he don't understand chinese & don't like chinese ed people & utar grads like us ??  hmm.gif
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Wah many talks unrelated again..u are UTAR grads? Hello I m BBW..
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post Nov 18 2014, 07:16 PM

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QUOTE(Gravity @ Nov 18 2014, 04:55 PM)
Point 1 - construction cost
what im trying to convey is that cost is continuing to rise. Bulk of the cost will falls under land acquisition cost. Land cost and construction cost will not fall unless major global event happen. On top of that, developer will want to make some money out of the project. Hence, the price will always match the vacinity. Thus, maintaining the price at a higher than market value level.

Point 2 - foreign investment
I was basically refering to FDI. If you're investor and you realized there are high capital appreciation gain investing in KL, why would you go for jakarta or Bangkok which price is already hitting a probable ceiling. Hence, people will still come back to KL for investment. No doubt the government has implemented many ways to curb the speculation, but for me, when there's a will, there's a way. The rich can still invest via different route.

It's all about ROI. Property gives you 10-30% of your purchase value, not your investment amount. With leverage from banks,  a property of RM500K, you only need around RM50K and say RM10K for expenses. A 10% rice in your market value will be already RM50K, hence there's effectively almost 100% ROI on your RM50K investment.
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how come other coutries will face correction? we have Malaysia had crash in property price before..

Insider news from major Insurance company and banks, audit reports suggested cost cutting in all departments, inclusive both local banks and foreign banks..

still on property BBB mode , please buy more..

many Malaysians seems to failed to fork out 40k to 80k to buy the mass market supplies which worth 400k to 800k region, and left it empty for more than 1 year, some genuis say renovation wor, some super genuis whole year no time to go in , some genius also forgot that same time yllow banners are up for sale rclxms.gif

hi I am BBW..

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Nov 18 2014, 04:44 PM)
Then flippers will be disappointed.
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construction cost, land cost, labour cost all are BS, same Indonesia workers, same construction site machines & cranes, if all the above said cost so much, why developers still building rampantly and hope for some 20% profit margin? consultant also take more than that..

they are made up to justify the price of property... since a property say like PV setapak was sold around 200k, now become 500k? the developers cost was 200k inclusive of everything, what is the problem and where the 300k? cost of constructions? labor? expected profit... they mention everything under the sky to justify the price but never admitted the property speculation is the major chunk that cause the price like that..
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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Nov 18 2014, 07:01 PM)
Where is your project  n entry price ?if you don't mind
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Bro Jliew, your profit is 200k for Midfields 2 or more...
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Nov 18 2014, 05:57 PM)
Nope, fall of 5% - easily kena sapu by secondary bargain hunters

To trigger a downfall, you need a slowdown in overall economy

Even if 10% to 15% of flippers sell below cost on VP, still no effect cos will kena sapu
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you try ask agent advertise 5-10% lower see what iis the effect, of course share the project as well
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QUOTE(kradun @ Nov 18 2014, 07:25 PM)
Puchong, 330k.. I only target mass market product no hassle to dispose.. More flexible to keep for rent or sell..
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wah 330k, flip 550k? why taret mass market? Jolokia say property are not for mass market, for rich ppl
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QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Nov 18 2014, 07:34 PM)
Ok la....i admit i am greedy to make 500k from you la. Opps...you cant afford right?
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You really cant buy now.. u max stretch di remember

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