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 Property Bubble Burst or Deflate ? V14 (发), Cherroy Most Forwarded Thread

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post Nov 27 2014, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mikken @ Nov 27 2014, 08:58 AM)
I am already seeing a 10% - 15% drop in market. Healthy in my opinion as this will spur transactions.

The market now is unbelievable. Heard a Z Residence fully furnished unit going for RM1,800. Previously was asking RM2,300. Waiting for LRT completion as next catalyst.
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1st thing, bear bear got no money to buy.

2nd thing, bear bear wants more than 50%drop. He wont buy once the price has increase more than 200k.

Typical useless rubbish. Cant even buy a "rubbish" property. Which makes him one level lower than a rubbish. Anyone can make a good guess what that is?
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post Nov 28 2014, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jen1 @ Nov 28 2014, 04:18 PM)
People queuing since this morning for tomorrow morning's launching in bbw's so-called "rubbish" area.
Who says no demand...
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To bear bear, property he cannot afford is called rubbish. Then. He is one level lower than rubbish.

Anyone can suggest what he is?
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(Jliew168 @ Nov 29 2014, 11:25 AM)
He is greedy..that why he confuse..he want good he want big he want cheap he want be the only winner..he want property price shoot up once he bought

Typical selfish behavior..he lost his objective looking house for own stay..he treat his own stay property like investment ..he also wanna be a flipper but the only problem is he missed the boat but die die don't want to admit. Bearbear is the biggest flipper wannabe
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Spot on description on the bear bear. Useless brickfield graduate with no common sense
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:04 PM

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One more thing i notice is once bear bear cannot take the heat from everyone. He will run away and then reply when we are gone.
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:06 PM

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Bear bear u are missing the. Things are not looking good for you after gst.

Next year u buy will cost u rm250k more instead of 200k.
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:26 PM

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For any young couples who read this thread , please dont believe in bear bear misguided ideas.

He is showing u very bad example.
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post Nov 29 2014, 01:18 PM

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bear bear is meeting is gf, gf family, relative,

after that, he will be gone bonker again,
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post Nov 29 2014, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(kradun @ Nov 29 2014, 01:53 PM)
dono bear2 will suddenly abandon the ddd ship after see the condition not right liao.. either join the rest who cant afford, or buy at premium left his dd comrade behind continue wait for durian drop..
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Normally for this of mentally dis-order person, they wont.

Bear bear will continue to curse the property like no tomorrow . Maybe he will curse his gf and PAMA and others for not helping him .
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post Nov 29 2014, 08:46 PM

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this is specially for bear bear, if only he got dumped by his gf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw9CALKOvAI
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(gapuahy @ Nov 29 2014, 09:02 PM)
sk one residence sri kembangan , start from 230k, from 800sf , fee hold, public bus to seri kembangan ktm, walking distance to major mall such as aeon,hospital and etc. majoy chinese population there, very cheap, great for investment due to high chinese population and good rental yield.
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new project , complete by 2017/2018
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This property is too cheap for bear bear. You look down on bear bear? Olso. The place is so ulu place from city centre. Need to take public transport. U think he is nepalis?


I am only speaking on behalf of him as now he is busy kena by his gf. No hard feelings
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:25 PM

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Bear bear faz faz buy the property above. Later the price goes up from 310k to 500k u wont buy anymore.

U will miss the boat again
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post Nov 29 2014, 09:27 PM

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Bear bear is hiding like an animal now. Later he will come out replying one by one after 12 o clock
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post Nov 29 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Nov 29 2014, 10:12 PM)
BBW go to the EM showhouse launching makan makan....not going back so early today..... thumbup.gif
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He cannot afford to buy EM house . vmad.gif
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post Nov 29 2014, 11:08 PM

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one more hour to go, sure bear bear come out bark like no tomorrow

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post Nov 29 2014, 11:44 PM

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15 more minutes , bear bear will bark liao
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post Nov 30 2014, 12:30 AM

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as predicted,barking after 12

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post Nov 30 2014, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 30 2014, 12:35 AM)
bearbearwong is a very interesting forum member in LYN. His behaviour brought us lots of fun and at the same time, he showed us many things which we should avoid. There are many mistakes he made, and below are 6 mistakes made by bearbear which I think home buyers and investors alike can "learn" from him and avoid them in their future purchases :

Mistake #1 Confused objective
bearbear's intention to buy a property is for own stay. For own stay, the objective is totally different from investment. For own stay, it is 1 of the 4 daily needs (clothing, food, dwelling and transport). Just like clothing, food and transport, we buy a house when we need it (like marriage). We should not delay because it is our need. We can always choose a budget that suits us. But bearbear wanted designer cloth and BMW instead of something more affordable. He wanted those mid-high end housing >RM600k instead of those RM300k+ which is his actual affordable budget.

Moreover, for own stay, the future rise and fall of market price does not affect him. He still have to own the house if the market price increase by 100%. He can't sell it for profit otherwise he has no roof over his head. Likewise, if the market falls by 50%, he will not sell either. A house for own stay is a need, not an investment which could turn into profit or loss due to price movement
Mistake #2 Buying a property is a 1 time decision
bearbear thought that buying a house is a 1 time decision (like marriage). But in fact, almost everyone have the opportunity to upgrade their house in the future. Therefore, we should buy a property based on our own financial ability at that time. We should not think that we will be stuck with a property for whole life. We can always sell it and upgrade to a better property in the future. Thinking buying a property and will stay in it for the rest of you life will make your purchase decision very difficult
Mistake #3 Timing the market
Nobody knows the timing of market ups and downs. It applies to any market including stock and property. So, it is foolish to time the market for best price. Instead, the best time to buy a property is when you are financially ready and comfortable. Timing the market is like gambling. If you time the market wrongly, the loss is substantial. Just like the DDDs for the last 5-6 years, they have missed the great opportunity of riding the super bull run which has never been seen in malaysia property market history

Over long term, in malaysia property market history, market price will increase between 5%-10% pa on long term average. So, in 20 years time and beyond, the property will appreciate at least 3 times. Of course, there are ups and downs during the 20 years period, but if a person holds a long term view, the price is on an upward linear trend as history has shown us
Mistake #4 want to wear too big a hat
bearbear's salary is only RM4k gross. His saving is only RM40k. But he aspire to buy property in the region of RM600k-RM700k. He has over-stretched his budget. The result would be catastrophic. A property buyer should not over-stretch their financial ability, unless he has backup from PAMA or spouse. With RM4k salary, bearbear should only be looking at property in the region of RM300k-RM400k. However, he even take into account his 3 credit card limit of RM50k in choosing his target property. Using credit card as part of the deposit is plainly a foolish decision

Be truthful to yourself. Weigh your financial ability objectively. Face and social status will be down the drain when repo man knocks on your door.
Mistake #5 getting influenced by his working life
bearbear has a "hazardous" job. His repomen job forces him to meet people who failed financially everyday. When he sees people bankrupt day in day out, he is influenced by them and giving him an impression that many people are facing financial trouble. This could have lead him to believe that most people are not prudent in their financial management and hence, most property buyers are vulnerable to fail. His mindset has become negative and pessimistic. Causing him to read any news and deduce his own findings negatively.

His world becomes doom and gloom and market will crash soon. He cannot see the market objectively anymore. As such, his market outlook causes him to think crash is coming and he should delay his purchase decision.

Property purchase is 1 of our biggest decision. We should be more objective when making such decision. Try to get advice from as many people as possible instead of being influenced by people around you.
   
 
Mistake #6 wish the environment to come down to meet his wants instead of working towards achieving his wish
He already has a job. He can work hard to improve his income. If he works towards improving his income by double to RM8k, buying the property of his choice is no more an issue. However, instead of working hard to achieve higher income, he blame the market instead. He whine about the UUU, the flippers, the government etc for causing the price to inflate exponentially until his current salary could not afford.

Instead of working hard, he spend a big proportion of his productive time from 7am - 12 midnight in the forum argue with the UUU and other property buyers. He did not realise he is spending his time unproductively and will not help in his career. He should have use his productive time to work towards how to achieve better career path instead.

We should always bear in mind in this cruel world, nothing will come to you unless you make an effort to achieve it. Ie. there is no free lunch and complaining wouldn't help you get what you wish
I am sure there are more bearbear's mistakes which we can learn. Feel free to add on  thumbup.gif

p/s if I have time, I will examine the mistakes made by iceman....
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Very detailed analysis on the troubled bear bear. Very Spot On . Like hitting on the bulls eye . I feel like his biggest mistake is actually his job being the repomen. I once asked him how about being a doctor who is seeing people die on a daily basis. Should the doctor be crazy and cursing that the world is gonna end soon where human extinction is for real gonna happen? Nonetheless, he dodged my question.

His job actually some how poisoned his mind till he cannot analyze things clearly.


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post Nov 30 2014, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 30 2014, 10:24 AM)
Doctor actually saves life 90% of their time. So their job is very meaningful

Whereas repoman's job is not save life. He put the final nail into the coffin. He takes away the last hope from the bankrupt. He is the executor, the person who press the button on electric chair

So bearbear becomes very negative. He takes away hope. He everyday look at faces which are hopeless. And unconsciously, he also become hopeless of his own life
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post Nov 30 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(jolokia @ Nov 30 2014, 03:51 PM)
Cxnt & Haji Cloud r more of poking fun with him so they not in the most hatered list, as for Tigerr you he may need some info on "How to get job earning S$ working in Singapore" so at best the rest only in his 2nd line hatered list.

Today he tries to siam to Property Talk particularly at EM & OUG Parklane thread with his sidekick Ice Cream Boy.

See he go bongus or not tonight after been grilled by GF & In law.

He last stand is OUG Parklane, which he can squeezed till Max to buy one, but he dead worry Negros will invade the place, now post like mad man over there, hope someone would offer him cheap price to avoid another Venice Hill case.

Very predictable fellow... wink.gif
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With me in this thread and along with you guys, he already run liao . He knew he lost the war. Cant even argue on a logical way.

Still say he graduated with a law degree. what the hell ? doh.gif
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post Nov 30 2014, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Nov 30 2014, 04:14 PM)
Did he tell us he graduated or not????
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he said he got a degree in law or something with LLP, not sure is real or what .

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