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TSHikari Natsumi
post Nov 15 2014, 09:05 PM, updated 12y ago

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My friends send 12 episode of anime, consist of 720p resolution just around 740MB!
not single file 740MB, ALL 12 episode just 740MB with HD quality....

I wonder how they do that? how they compress that small? what software did they use?
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post Nov 15 2014, 09:11 PM

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something like this>?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UHARC
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post Nov 15 2014, 09:28 PM

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That for data, this directly mkv files!

here screenshot:
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post Nov 15 2014, 09:46 PM

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Maybe you need google search IFME, then you find it
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post Nov 15 2014, 10:17 PM

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Highly compressed without losing quality, is impossible.
Most video encoders like h264 and h265 are lossy compressor(by default), they discards the data depends on the settings.
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post Nov 15 2014, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari Natsumi @ Nov 15 2014, 09:28 PM)
That for data, this directly mkv files!
here screenshot:
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maybe name says 720p, but actual quality is not 720p


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post Nov 15 2014, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(ReWeR @ Nov 15 2014, 10:20 PM)
maybe name says 720p, but actual quality is not 720p
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I found this
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/57559

It's 720p! not upscale...

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post Nov 15 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(ImLEaver @ Nov 15 2014, 09:46 PM)
Maybe you need google search IFME, then you find it
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Do you mean this? not those Japanese shoes branded as IFME?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Frie...y_Media_Encoder
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post Nov 15 2014, 10:30 PM

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lots of tools here..
http://www.videohelp.com/tools
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post Nov 15 2014, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(mikicun @ Nov 15 2014, 10:30 PM)
lots of tools here..
http://www.videohelp.com/tools
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Upon clicking it... I found Internet Friendly Media Encoder (IFME) recently updated.
http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Internet-Fr...y-Media-Encoder

You all use this software before?
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post Nov 16 2014, 12:49 PM

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Upon trying so called "IFME", I impressed! It shrink so much smaller,

MediaInfo:
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


I found that this program has Malay language, who Anime4000 anyways?

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post Nov 16 2014, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari Natsumi @ Nov 15 2014, 10:26 PM)
Do you mean this? not those Japanese shoes branded as IFME?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Frie...y_Media_Encoder
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YES! biggrin.gif
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post Nov 16 2014, 10:50 PM

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Seriously this converter really make file much smaller!
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post Nov 16 2014, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari Natsumi @ Nov 16 2014, 10:50 PM)
Seriously this converter really make file much smaller!
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only applies to anime.

you do that to normal movies, you'd get a lot of noise.
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post Nov 16 2014, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Nov 16 2014, 10:54 PM)
only applies to anime.

you do that to normal movies, you'd get a lot of noise.
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Noise only appear if the video decoder does not have deblocking filter, like the ealier MPEG1/2 and MPEG4-ASP (aka DivX/Xvid)

H264 and H265 are enabled by default, so the lower the bit rate, the blurrier the video.
And if the deblocking filter disabled you will see a lot of macroblock artifacts or the video simply looks distorted.
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post Nov 16 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(cracksys @ Nov 16 2014, 10:54 PM)
only applies to anime.

you do that to normal movies, you'd get a lot of noise.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 16 2014, 11:04 PM)
Noise only appear if the video decoder does not have deblocking filter, like the ealier MPEG1/2 and MPEG4-ASP (aka DivX/Xvid)

H264 and H265 are enabled by default, so the lower the bit rate, the blurrier the video.
And if the deblocking filter disabled you will see a lot of macroblock artifacts or the video simply looks distorted.
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I not sure, here the result:
1. x264: 38.4 MB (40,345,268 bytes)
2. x265: 23.9 MB (25,155,477 bytes)

Original: gsmarena_v001.mp4: 79.9 MB (83,836,482 bytes)

too bad 4K video kills my CPU = =

This post has been edited by Hikari Natsumi: Nov 17 2014, 12:02 AM
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post Nov 17 2014, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari Natsumi @ Nov 16 2014, 11:59 PM)
I not sure, here the result:
1. x264: 38.4 MB (40,345,268 bytes)
2. x265: 23.9 MB (25,155,477 bytes)

Original: gsmarena_v001.mp4: 79.9 MB (83,836,482 bytes)

too bad 4K video kills my CPU = =
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The quality degradation is there, just barely noticeable. But i guess Anime source is fine since your priority is to reduce the file size.
DVD-R/W already a lot of cheaper isn't it? sweat.gif

Puny desktop CPU cant really do much, eg Quad core CPU, which only have 2 cores for decoding, and 2 cores for encoding.
Unless the transcoder software support GPU assisted encoding and decoding.
Not to mention it just 8 bit, 10 bit encoding are much slower.
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post Nov 17 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 17 2014, 05:46 PM)
Unless the transcoder software support GPU assisted encoding and decoding.
Not to mention it just 8 bit, 10 bit encoding are much slower.
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Standard accepted since 2009, I didn't find any GPU based decoder yet for this codec.
One Question, Do you know who create that IFME? I often see "Anime4000" on "console" tab. I feel want to ask him, did he join this forum?
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post Nov 17 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari Natsumi @ Nov 17 2014, 10:27 PM)
Standard accepted since 2009, I didn't find any GPU based decoder yet for this codec.
One Question, Do you know who create that IFME? I often see "Anime4000" on "console" tab. I feel want to ask him, did he join this forum?
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https://forum.lowyat.net/user/Anime4000

Standard accepted does not mean it's already widespread used.
Most decoder and GPU already support h264 decoding, while currently only Nvidia support 4K h264 GPU assisted decoding.
for Encoding, we gotta wait for a while. But GPU assisted encoding usually have lower quality.
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post Nov 18 2014, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 17 2014, 10:58 PM)
Standard accepted does not mean it's already widespread used.
Most decoder and GPU already support h264 decoding, while currently only Nvidia support 4K h264 GPU assisted decoding.
for Encoding, we gotta wait for a while. But GPU assisted encoding usually have lower quality.
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Is that him? I don't believe he join this forum too...

I used a lot GPU based encoder, quality super bad!

Found this...
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I test on my AMD PhenomII X6 3GHz vs Core i5 480M... Intel win, I notice that Encoding speed is count on CPU Instruction Set, not more core mean more speed.

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post Nov 18 2014, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Hikari Natsumi @ Nov 18 2014, 09:41 PM)
Is that him? I don't believe he join this forum too...

I used a lot GPU based encoder, quality super bad!

Found this...
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I test on my AMD PhenomII X6 3GHz vs Core i5 480M... Intel win, I notice that Encoding speed is count on CPU Instruction Set, not more core mean more speed.
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Just look at his sig, it's the same person i think.

It's true that more instruction set the better, but x264 encoding speed is somehow depends at the compile times.
Like what compiler used, or what library included during compiling h264 source.

ICL(Intel C Compiler) compiled x264 encoder usually are optimized for Intel CPU thus have dramatical difference.
And it's much faster compare to GCC compiled x264.

Yeah GPU assisted encoder are faster because they're more simpler, but x264 can beat most of them even with the default quality settings.

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post Nov 18 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 18 2014, 09:57 PM)
Just look at his sig, it's the same person i think.

It's true that more instruction set the better, but x264 encoding speed is somehow depends at the compile times.
Like what compiler used, or what library included during compiling h264 source.

ICL(Intel C Compiler) compiled x264 encoder usually are optimized for Intel CPU thus have dramatical difference.
And it's much faster compare to GCC compiled x264.

Yeah GPU assisted encoder are faster because they're more simpler, but x264 can beat most of them even with the default quality settings.
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Oh! going to PM him...

Well... I look that Intel C Compiler is not free on Windows, but free on linux,
I see that IFME using GCC, I think fair for both brand CPU.

I found that IFME works on Linux, found on fb page.
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I didn't see Mac version.

then... Opus audio codec? This something new.
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post Nov 19 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 18 2014, 09:57 PM)
Just look at his sig, it's the same person i think.
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Yep, that's me, Hikari just PM me because this encoder help save disk space = =
yet "IFME" project still in beta, also never finish smile.gif

Here my GitHub, IFME source code, so who to like cracking/decompile will become invalid =P
https://github.com/Anime4000/IFME

please look project website:
http://ifme.sourceforge.net/

There are some people donate some his/her $ to support, yep, I will work my best to make it better!
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post Nov 19 2014, 10:55 PM

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Man... you just make awesome program, with update-able plugins on program launch, I didn't see any video converter have this feature, even paid version!

you make it open source! make people trust that IFME has no backdoor or even viruses!

This program just help my raw footage save in latest codec with smaller size! I need better CPU to make it faster... sad.gif

This post has been edited by Hikari Natsumi: Nov 19 2014, 10:58 PM

 

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