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post Sep 15 2006, 04:38 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hi all masters here... notworthy.gif

I dono much of ICE stuffs.

All i know is 2 front speakers, 2 back speakers, 1 subwoofer, 1 amp..and HU.

I want a trustable, quality, durable n budget ICE.

Anyone can recommend? Plsssss.s.s.....

*I dont think i wanna install my HU ..coz im having KENWOOD mp3 player".
Really wish to know what specs should i go for... icon_question.gif notworthy.gif

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errmm...wht car bro?
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For your budget, get a decent(if you want better stuff, get used) 4-channel, a decent front component set, and also a subwoofer will do, skip the rear speakers, or if you want, stick wif your stocks powered by the HU.

But if your budget is 1.5k excluding install and cabling, you could work out a pretty decent setup.

For some example:
Front components: some decent 6.5" components like the PHD CF6.1(new for RM650-700)
Amp: Not too sure about this, but set aside at least half your budget for this(though i know some guy who has an Orion XTR450 for sale at about RM800)
Subwoofer: Some MTX or Kicker that works well with about 250Wrms and sealed box, i know some dude who's selling his Type-R Alpines for about RM300 each.

IMO, for audio setups, it'll only turn out nicely if you don't rush and slowly shop for good bargains(i don't call shopping from those lelong sites as bargains though, you'll never know when you actually bought authentic or fakies)
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 15 2006, 04:38 PM)
Hi all masters here... notworthy.gif

I do know much of ICE stuffs.

All i know is 2 front speakers, 2 back speakers, 1 subwoofer, 1 amp..and HU.

I want a trustable, quality, durable n budget ICE.

Anyone can recommend? Plsssss.s.s.....

*I dont think i wanna install my HU ..coz im having KENWOOD mp3 player".
Really wish to know what specs should i go for...  icon_question.gif  notworthy.gif
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wif ur budget.. go brothers and they will setlle all for u... no need sweat.gif unless u say rm3k then thumbup.gif larhh... tongue.gif
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Actually 1.5k CAN actually get a pretty decent setup. Just a matter of waiting and taking time to assemble all the parts needed, especially if you get used.
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 15 2006, 11:52 PM)
wif ur budget.. go brothers and they will setlle all for u... no need  sweat.gif unless u say rm3k then  thumbup.gif larhh...  tongue.gif
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Go brother, I better don't spend for ICE liao...
GO to Brother just a waste... doh.gif
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if he wan go brother i dun think he will ask here...
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 16 2006, 12:29 AM)
Go brother, I better don't spend for ICE liao...
GO to Brother just a waste... doh.gif
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post Sep 16 2006, 10:38 AM

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slowly source for quality used equipments will do
1.5 is quite a healthy budget for beginner
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post Sep 16 2006, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 15 2006, 04:38 PM)
All i know is 2 front speakers, 2 back speakers, 1 subwoofer, 1 amp..and HU.

I want a trustable, quality, durable n budget ICE.

*title aledi put rm1k-1.5k
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i assume it's goinna b rm1.5k for 2 front speakers (4 channel amp, 2 back speakers (draw from HU), 1 sub (draw from the 4 channel amp), 1 sub box, 1 4xchannel amp and wirings...

so every1 think it's possible huh? wif the "i want trustable, quality, durable n budget ice" statement it is still possible?? icon_rolleyes.gif

to me trustable ICE would b branded stuffs edi.. rm800 for a reputable amp, rm300 for a normal woofer, rm80 woofer box (if ada), wiring and workmanship would b around rm 150 and the rest r for speakers... how much would u left?

unless he said rm1.5k for component + decent amplifier then may sound reasonable to me wif his statements of "trustable, quality, durable n budget".. in my mind no cheap stuff is good stuff sweat.gif
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QUOTE(GRexer @ Sep 15 2006, 08:22 PM)
For your budget, get a decent(if you want better stuff, get used) 4-channel, a decent front component set, and also a subwoofer will do, skip the rear speakers, or if you want, stick wif your stocks powered by the HU.

But if your budget is 1.5k excluding install and cabling, you could work out a pretty decent setup.

For some example:
Front components: some decent 6.5" components like the PHD CF6.1(new for RM650-700)
Amp: Not too sure about this, but set aside at least half your budget for this(though i know some guy who has an Orion XTR450 for sale at about RM800)
Subwoofer: Some MTX or Kicker that works well with about 250Wrms and sealed box, i know some dude who's selling his Type-R Alpines for about RM300 each.

IMO, for audio setups, it'll only turn out nicely if you don't rush and slowly shop for good bargains(i don't call shopping from those lelong sites as bargains though, you'll never know when you actually bought authentic or fakies)
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ooh..i see...so how much for the installation fee normally?
i heard the cable oso quite important for setting an ICE.

But i really wan a durable n budget ICE..which makes me feel very nice listen love songs..no need to too strong..i think my pc ALTEC LANSING quality is better than my car ICE..if my ICE performance like my ALTEC LANSING oso enough lor..hehe.. biggrin.gif

yeah..1st i bought from Brother's ...it;s really sux !! all the crossover component sets are really upset me.no differencee after install.then the salesman called me to install amp only can feel.

ICE got so many many brands...which one should i go for ne ?

I wan a specification to review. + u all info given, i think the salesman wont easily CON me...really hope so. Coz im planning to build my ICE soon.


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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 16 2006, 11:37 AM)
i assume it's goinna b rm1.5k for 2 front speakers (4 channel amp, 2 back speakers (draw from HU), 1 sub (draw from the 4 channel amp), 1 sub box, 1 4xchannel amp and wirings...

so every1 think it's possible huh? wif the "i want trustable, quality, durable n budget ice" statement it is still possible??  icon_rolleyes.gif

to me trustable ICE would b branded stuffs edi.. rm800 for a reputable amp, rm300 for a normal woofer, rm80 woofer box (if ada), wiring and workmanship would b around rm 150 and the rest r for speakers... how much would u left?

unless he said rm1.5k for component + decent amplifier then may sound reasonable to me wif his statements of "trustable, quality, durable n budget".. in my mind no cheap stuff is good stuff  sweat.gif
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Ooh...i thought 1.5k at least can get a pretty decent ICE Setup.sigh..

Hmm...so brother mattchin, can u give me an idea ..
how to build up a 1.5k decent ICE setup mah?

im using wira...wira speakers quite good , rite?
So shud i go for AMP, woofer, and box...is that enuff lor?? unsure.gif

As im not that kind of person who opens the window and let ppl hear the music.
I wanna listen songs syok syok with myself n my Gf...hehe.. wub.gif
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 16 2006, 07:57 PM)
ooh..i see...so how much for the installation fee normally?
i heard the cable oso quite important for setting an ICE.

But i really wan a durable n budget ICE..which makes me feel very nice listen love songs..no need to too strong..i think my pc  ALTEC LANSING quality is better than my car ICE..if my ICE performance like my ALTEC LANSING oso enough lor..hehe..  biggrin.gif

yeah..1st i bought from Brother's ...it;s really sux !! all the crossover component sets are really upset me.no differencee after install.then the salesman called me to install amp only can feel.

ICE got so many many brands...which one should i go for ne ?

I wan a specification to review. + u all info given, i think the salesman wont easily CON me...really hope so. Coz im planning to build my ICE soon.
REGARDS.  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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need like Altec Lancing...Hmm
Buy MB Quart 6" component...
Add amp...maybe 2nd hand quality amp
then add woofer....
but for me need about RM2K++
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post Sep 17 2006, 12:45 AM

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i would say get a HU around 500+/-
get a decent comp and active sub around 800
the rest for installation and cabling

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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 16 2006, 08:03 PM)
Ooh...i thought 1.5k at least can get a pretty decent ICE Setup.sigh..

Hmm...so brother mattchin, can u give me an idea ..
how to build up a 1.5k decent ICE setup mah?

im using wira...wira speakers quite good , rite?
So shud i go for AMP, woofer, and box...is that enuff lor??  unsure.gif

As im not that kind of person who opens the window and let ppl hear the music.
I wanna listen songs syok syok with myself n my Gf...hehe..  wub.gif
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ha! ha! i never know that i can listen song/radio inside the car cz my gf is whistling.gif whistling.gif

u should start urself wif and amplifier and a component speakers.. regarding speakers, wat types of music r u heading for? i mean pop, rock, r&b ...etc...

get a good amplifier.. do u mind using 2nd hand amplifier? cz wif a new normal amp u can go for a good 2nd hand amp..

hmmm.. i think rm1.5k for all 2nd hand items might gif u a decent 1.. (i assume u r sticking wif ur kenwood mp3 HU..)
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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 17 2006, 12:45 AM)
i would say get a HU around 500+/-
get a decent comp and active sub around 800
the rest for installation and cabling
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Nope..i got a Kenwood MP3 HU...
so i jus plan on decent comp, amp..woofer..cabling.

Decent component consists of 2 front speakers..tweeters...crossover.
how bout the back one? have to chg?

im using wira currently n ppl told me not need to chg wira back speakers coz it's quite powerful though. hmm..... unsure.gif unsure.gif
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u carry ppl around wif u? juz forget 'em.. u can't hear the back speakers.. connect it to the HU and hopefully that ur unit can switch them on or off whenever u like..
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 17 2006, 03:06 AM)
ha! ha! i never know that i can listen song/radio inside the car cz my gf is  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

u should start urself wif and amplifier and a component speakers.. regarding speakers, wat types of music r u heading for? i mean pop, rock, r&b ...etc...

get a good amplifier.. do u mind using 2nd hand amplifier? cz wif a new normal amp u can go for a good 2nd hand amp..

hmmm.. i think rm1.5k for all 2nd hand items might gif u a decent 1.. (i assume u r sticking wif ur kenwood mp3 HU..)
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oh? ur gf singing or blah blah blah cant let u listen songs ? hehe..
funny!

actually i like any kind of songs.but mainly is my sound quality.
like jay chou songs? hmm...syok! no techno..hmm..or funky songs inside my car. smile.gif

my god!!! 1.5k for all 2nd hand items..ish.. doh.gif doh.gif
seems like i have to overtime more then only can post here.

i really thought 1.5k can get a good decent ICE.i mean for a beginner like me.

okie...if cable...what brand should i go for ? can request from the shopman?? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 17 2006, 03:45 AM)
u carry ppl around wif u? juz forget 'em.. u can't hear the back speakers.. connect it to the HU and hopefully that ur unit can switch them on or off whenever u like..
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so u mean i have to focus on the front comp ..amp...woofer...rite?

the stock wira front comp can cabut out lor?? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 17 2006, 03:57 AM)
so u mean i have to focus on the front comp ..amp...woofer...rite?

the stock wira front comp can cabut out lor??  unsure.gif
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Take out the front stock speaker la...
If wira front speaker good ar, no one change speaker loh... doh.gif
If you have amp, the back stock can power up by HU.

You just focus on ;
Front component Spekaer,
2 channel amp(for front component) + mono amp( power up woofer) or 4 channel amp
1 12" woofer
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 17 2006, 03:53 AM)
oh? ur gf singing or blah blah blah cant let u listen songs ? hehe..
funny!

actually i like any kind of songs.but mainly is my sound quality.
like jay chou songs? hmm...syok! no techno..hmm..or funky songs inside my car. smile.gif

my god!!! 1.5k for all 2nd hand items..ish.. doh.gif  doh.gif
seems like i have to overtime more then only can post here.

i really thought 1.5k can get a good decent ICE.i mean for a beginner like me.

okie...if cable...what brand should i go for ? can request from the shopman??  unsure.gif
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If you want quality sound.., you hard to have all in one shot with RM1.5K.


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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 17 2006, 03:57 AM)
so u mean i have to focus on the front comp ..amp...woofer...rite?

the stock wira front comp can cabut out lor??  unsure.gif
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stock wira doesn't haf any front component speakers.. i recomend u 2 forget the back speakers unless u always bring ppl around wif ur car..

rm1.5k can start ur project liao.. by it's a step by step project.. it is better to do step by step rather than doing all @ 1 shot.. laugh.gif cz u don really enjoy the fun of ICE upgrading.. the satisfaction u'll get can't even mention by words (for me tongue.gif )

now u focus on a set of component speakers and amp first.. woofer come later lar.. bcz u can c how much of budget r u left wif cool.gif

regarding the cables.. u can use normal speaker cables and a good RCA cable from belden, monster, etc... budget them around rm200+ for 2metre o even cheaper if u can source it @ a cheaper price..

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use normal cable can liao
i dun think u can differenciate the sound of cap ayam or normal 1 like belden/monster or even Kimber laugh.gif seriously!
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ha! ha!..

maybe u wanna try using the cap ayam of mine.. the different was hell a lot.. it amazed me how a short cable can do such a difference... he! he! biggrin.gif
the cap ayam i used to use was rm50+-...

but i did upgrade this @ the 3rd level.. cz got extra budget tongue.gif
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erm...juz go shop n tell ur budget loh

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 17 2006, 02:50 PM)
erm...juz go shop n tell ur budget loh
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warhh.. very g00d idea hoh... ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 17 2006, 09:52 AM)
Take out the front stock speaker la...
If wira front speaker good ar, no one change speaker loh... doh.gif
If you have amp, the back stock can power up by HU.

You just focus on ;
Front component Spekaer,
2 channel amp(for front component) + mono amp( power up woofer) or 4 channel amp
1 12" woofer
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oh! got the idea!
now i fully focus on front comp.

anyway, can i put 4 channel amp for front comp.
and 4 channel amp for woofer ??

normally u all got two amps one mah ???
sorry ah..noob question hor ?? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 17 2006, 11:18 AM)
stock wira doesn't haf any front component speakers.. i recomend u 2 forget the back speakers unless u always bring ppl around wif ur car..

rm1.5k can start ur project liao.. by it's a step by step project.. it is better to do step by step rather than doing all @ 1 shot..  laugh.gif cz u don really enjoy the fun of ICE upgrading.. the satisfaction u'll get can't even mention by words (for me  tongue.gif )

now u focus on a set of component speakers and amp first.. woofer come later lar.. bcz u can c how much of budget r u left wif  cool.gif

regarding the cables.. u can use normal speaker cables and a good RCA cable from belden, monster, etc... budget them around rm200+ for 2metre o even cheaper if u can source it @ a cheaper price..
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Ok..brother mattchin!!

with 1.5k ..i think can get decent front comp set. amp. n woofer ,rite?
hmm..4get bout the back.coz i wan myself listen.not the "backside".haha!

so normally setting up ICE need how many metres RCA cable neh?
Sorry ah brother...how bout tweeter lor?? unsure.gif unsure.gif

today i went to an ICE shop..its brand is MAGNAT. the shop guy said it's made from Germany.So what do u think?? unsure.gif

FRONT COMP - ??
TWEETER - ??
AMP - ??
WOOFER - ??
SUBWOOFER - ??

(?? = Brand of those ICE stuffs ) Can name some suitable one mah??

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Then u do it by urself lor..u better get conned by them then. tongue.gif

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buy a 4 channel amp..

first 2 channel u use it to power ur front components
and the other 2 u use it to move ur woofer

start wif ur component first bcz it is more important than only come to ur amp.. the rest u left then onli plan for ur woofer..

try getting those components from the forum (garage sales- automotive section) o zth.. there r good quality components selling @ quite cheap price..

installation u can find our brother howiechoo.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 18 2006, 02:45 AM)
oh! got the idea!
now i fully focus on front comp.

anyway, can i put 4 channel amp for front comp.
and 4 channel amp for woofer ??

normally u all got two amps one mah ???
sorry ah..noob question hor ??  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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use 4 channel amp for front speaker?
U want play bi-amp? Bi-amp not for begginer la...
4 channel for woofer? I think don't need do it like that.

Beginner better use one 4 channel amp for 2 channel for componnent speaker & 2 channel bridge for woofer.


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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 18 2006, 11:38 AM)
buy a 4 channel amp..

first 2 channel u use it to power ur front components
and the other 2 u use it to move ur woofer

start wif ur component first bcz it is more important than only come to ur amp.. the rest u left then onli plan for ur woofer..

try getting those components from the forum (garage sales- automotive section) o zth.. there r good quality components selling @ quite cheap price..

installation u can find our brother howiechoo.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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Okok...
so now i go 2 channel for 2 front comp set. did they include the tweeters as well??

2 channel for woofer...

can name spec for these stuffs mah? mattchin?
2 front comp set.
amp ...and woofer. coz i dono which one to go for.

HELIX ? MAGNAT ? or .... unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif


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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 18 2006, 02:55 AM)
Ok..brother mattchin!!

with 1.5k ..i think can get decent front comp set. amp. n woofer ,rite?
hmm..4get bout the back.coz i wan myself listen.not the "backside".haha!

so normally setting up ICE need how many metres RCA cable neh?
Sorry ah brother...how bout tweeter lor??  unsure.gif  unsure.gif 

today i went to an ICE shop..its brand is MAGNAT. the shop guy said it's made from Germany.So what do u think?? unsure.gif

FRONT COMP -  ??
TWEETER - ??
AMP - ??
WOOFER - ??
SUBWOOFER - ??

(?? = Brand of those ICE stuffs ) Can name some suitable one mah??

Thanks ah ....sifus here!!!  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Then u do it by urself lor..u better get conned by them then.  tongue.gif
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magnat nt so branded...but nice ....
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u have 2 find a trustable seller laa...u go around the town,c which shop gt most busy...then u go tat shop ask...myself using magnat.....
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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 18 2006, 10:55 PM)
u have 2 find a trustable seller laa...u go around the town,c which shop gt most busy...then u go tat shop ask...myself using magnat.....
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can't say which shop busy skill must good...! doh.gif
Brother also many people loh... Is it good?
Many that kind of shop just sell stuft cheep or mostly chapalang !
Now mostly people just want to higher the volume only loh...they only look for cheap stuft... Quality leh, I dun think so...

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go for pioneer HU...
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so how jek ...loon gor??

place is not the problem la i think.
i wan the brand name only.

Any ppl complain bout MAGNAT b4?
speakers explode...or....??

so ...
2 channel for 2 front comp ..(which are 2 big speakers on the door, 2 tweeters, & 2 crossover??)

another 1 channel for woofer...

so left one more channel ...go where ler?


Ck6667, how much u install MAGNAT ?
the guy charge me 1.5k with full installation without HU.
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Sep 18 2006, 11:07 PM)
go for pioneer HU...
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Im using Kenwood MP3 HU..but no USB one lah. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 18 2006, 11:12 PM)
so how jek ...loon gor??

place is not the problem la i think.
i wan the brand name only.

Any ppl complain bout MAGNAT b4?
speakers explode...or....??

so ...
2 channel for 2 front comp ..(which are 2 big speakers on the door, 2 tweeters, & 2 crossover??)

another 1 channel for woofer...

so left one more channel ...go where ler?
Ck6667, how much u install MAGNAT ?
the guy charge me 1.5k with full installation without HU.
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2channels for comp
2channel bridged for sub
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ha! ha!.. sorry for the ugly thing below.. but i hope u will b clearer after looking at the diagram below.. blush.gif


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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 02:49 AM)
ha! ha!.. sorry for the ugly thing below.. but i hope u will b clearer after looking at the diagram below..  blush.gif
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but it looks ugly smile.gif

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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 18 2006, 11:12 PM)
Ck6667, how much u install MAGNAT ?
the guy charge me 1.5k with full installation without HU.
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u take how many woofer???u can go my thread to see izit the same woofer n amp......u can sms me 2 discuss....welcome....haha

0126196667
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wah not bad...

don care bout how pretty it is ..
as long i know how the system goes..hmm..thanks !!! mattchin!! haha..


and one more left..which is subwoofer & woofer ? normally these 2 woofers stored where ??? have to take out the spare tyre one ah ?? unsure.gif unsure.gif

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 19 2006, 01:12 PM)
u take how many woofer???u can go my thread to see izit the same woofer n amp......u can sms me 2 discuss....welcome....haha

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1 only lor..i juz ask...

oh..haha..so bad u're not a gal...sure call u on the spot ..whahaa..jk~~

anyway..ur thread no pic to see geh?

may i know what's the different btw 2 ways & 3 ways comp set?

2 ways no MID AMP SPEAKER ah??? unsure.gif unsure.gif

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gt pic leh...now u go c 1st page...
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 04:24 PM)
1 only lor..i juz ask...

oh..haha..so bad u're not a gal...sure call u on the spot ..whahaa..jk~~

anyway..ur thread no pic to see geh?

may i know what's the different btw 2 ways & 3 ways comp set?

2 ways no MID AMP SPEAKER ah??? unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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hah???1 onli...then quite expensive......
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 04:22 PM)
wah not bad...

don care bout how pretty it is ..
as long i know how the system goes..hmm..thanks !!! mattchin!! haha..
and one more left..which is subwoofer & woofer ? normally these 2 woofers stored where ??? have to take out the spare tyre one ah ??  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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the woofer/woofers that u wanna put is normally behind the boot space.. i don get u about subwoofer and woofer thingy and what one more left?

QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 04:24 PM)
1 only lor..i juz ask...

oh..haha..so bad u're not a gal...sure call u on the spot ..whahaa..jk~~

anyway..ur thread no pic to see geh?

may i know what's the different btw 2 ways & 3 ways comp set?

2 ways no MID AMP SPEAKER ah??? unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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2-way inclusive of a pair of tweeters and a mid-bass drivers and while the 3-way is a pair of tweeters, mid-bass drivers and woofer..
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bro...u see already?????
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 18 2006, 05:28 PM)
Okok...
so now i go 2 channel for 2 front comp set. did they include the tweeters as well??

2 channel for woofer...

can name spec for these stuffs mah? mattchin?
2 front comp set.
amp ...and woofer. coz i dono which one to go for.

HELIX ? MAGNAT ? or ....  unsure.gif  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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Try Helix better than Magnat...
Because I hear it before loh... Quite good! wink.gif
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the brother above u is selling magnat.. later he flames u onli then u know.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 19 2006, 05:02 PM)
hah???1 onli...then quite expensive......
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1 woofer lor? then how many u want?

got so many woofers inside car one meh?
soree ah.. i dono ...

what he told me 4 chnl amp....front comp...n back speakers.
all MAGNAT.

1.5 k ... then urs is how much neh??

wah..ur 1st page...where u buka new thread oh..
give me link..k ? tongue.gif
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wah.. all of those for rm1.5k? wait wat oh...? ha! ha!.. inclusive of installation, cabling, woofer box... don wait lorhh..

ha! ha!.. btw, where's magnat from ah?
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 11:25 PM)
the brother above u is selling magnat.. later he flames u onli then u know.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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no lah...say truly...no matter how ppl convince me to buy his stuff..

i don buy de lor..coz i don like to be a 2nd hand man mah..haha~~!

wai..mattchin...if u can draw details more..then so good ler..can edit back mah..
im really sorry..coz i dono the system...

suddenly i read got pre-amp lah....subwoofer lah....
WATT is count on AMP or SPEAKER ger jek ??

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1.5 k without HU wor...

why ? very worthy meh?

he said made from germany.

actually all these stuffs got warranty or not ge jek ?? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 11:36 PM)
no lah...say truly...no matter how ppl convince me to buy his stuff..

i don buy de lor..coz i don like to be a 2nd hand man mah..haha~~!

wai..mattchin...if u can draw details more..then so good ler..can edit back mah..
im really sorry..coz i dono the system...

suddenly i read got pre-amp lah....subwoofer lah....
WATT is count on AMP or SPEAKER ger jek ??

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pre-amp is for those ultra noobies.. so plz juz forget about it.. i've draw it very clear liao larhh.. i also dono where u don UN.. laugh.gif

if it is written on the speakers it means the power that needs to run at.. (normally it's maximum) u need 2 c how much ur components need 2 power for.. (normally around 50rms watt + -) (can i call rms the pure reading o watt) i

the amp itself also is also written how much rms watt it can produce.. so if it suits.. then it is.. bear in mind that those chapalang brand amps doesn't come wif any rms especially u c those 1000watt.. it might b onli p.m.p.o watt.. (juz j/k)

QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 11:37 PM)
1.5 k without HU wor...

why ? very worthy meh?

he said made from germany.

actually all these stuffs got warranty or not ge jek ??  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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i dono this brand.. maybe other sifus can help u.. hey.. i thought u haf ur mp3 player?
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 11:25 PM)
the brother above u is selling magnat.. later he flames u onli then u know.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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Nevermind... I just say right thing mah..!
Magnat & Helix for SQ la ....hmm u take which one?
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 11:36 PM)
no lah...say truly...no matter how ppl convince me to buy his stuff..

i don buy de lor..coz i don like to be a 2nd hand man mah..haha~~!

wai..mattchin...if u can draw details more..then so good ler..can edit back mah..
im really sorry..coz i dono the system...

suddenly i read got pre-amp lah....subwoofer lah....
WATT is count on AMP or SPEAKER ger jek ??

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2nd hand woofer?
2nd hand quality amp still can buy...but 2nd hand woofer better forget about it... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 11:49 PM)
pre-amp is for those ultra noobies.. so plz juz forget about it.. i've draw it very clear liao larhh.. i also dono where u don UN.. laugh.gif

if it is written on the speakers it means the power that needs to run at.. (normally it's maximum) u need 2 c how much ur components need 2 power for.. (normally around 50rms watt + -) (can i call rms the pure reading o watt) i

the amp itself also is also written how much rms watt it can produce.. so if it suits.. then it is.. bear in mind that those chapalang brand amps doesn't come wif any rms especially u c those 1000watt.. it might b onli p.m.p.o watt.. (juz j/k)
i dono this brand.. maybe other sifus can help u.. hey.. i thought u haf ur mp3 player?
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i don understand the subwoofer lor..woofer / subwoofer is what ne?? sad.gif
hehe..sorry ah..slow to catch up.hope u don mind.

so do u mean front comp set rms must more or less equal with amp rms?
rms is ??

then how many watts of amp n rms should i get ne?

yah..i got kenwood mp3 player...

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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 11:55 PM)
i don understand the subwoofer lor..woofer / subwoofer is what ne??  sad.gif
hehe..sorry ah..slow to catch up.hope u don mind.

so do u mean front comp set rms must more or less equal with amp rms?
rms is ??

then how many watts of amp n rms should i get ne?

yah..i got kenwood mp3 player...

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seriously i don gif a shit wat's a woofer o a subwoofer... 2 me they r a speaker that produces deep bass which is below 60hz.. this woofer continues the bass that the component's mid can't carry on wif..

if u r asking how many watts (rms) u r looking for depends on ur budget.. actually u can try out 2nd hand woofer and also amp which will save u plenty.. u don c them.. but u only hear them.. u hear them but u won't know it's 2nd hand.. sometimes woofer which is 2nd hand performs better bcz it is more responsive (plz.. this is 2 me onli) and there r times, ppl call this run in (he! he!.. i know it's a week for the speakers 2 run in)..

branded amps such as a/d/s, alpine, eclipse .. etc can last u very very long time.. i have an alpine 4 channel amp which my father bought on year 92 still works until now.. (but very low rms 20rms+- per channel cz i can't remember)..

if u don mind, i can help u 2 notice around if there is any 2nd hand good items in the forum..
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this was wat i used during my 1st year wif my 1st car.. HERE!

that time was nearby rm1k.. now price drop liao.. it is a good 1 for beginner.. highly recomemded for ur tight budget but yet this speakers still performs well from ordinary rm400+/- speakers..
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 11:25 PM)
the brother above u is selling magnat.. later he flames u onli then u know.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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nvm la...its ok...haha

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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 19 2006, 11:33 PM)
1 woofer lor? then how many u want?

got so many woofers inside car one meh?
soree ah.. i dono ...

what he told me 4 chnl amp....front comp...n back speakers.
all MAGNAT.

1.5 k ... then urs is how much neh??

wah..ur 1st page...where u buka new thread oh..
give me link..k ?  tongue.gif
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mine is 1 12" woofer,monoblock amp, front component set....
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erm....magnat woofer veli deep bass d...now inside my dad car already..hahahaaaa
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bro...if u want,u can come 2 seremban view it....but let me know earlier
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fren.. u can always use the quote button and also edit button if u forgotten 2 put in wat u haf.. icon_rolleyes.gif

don make the whole page also like ur posting.. smile.gif
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ohohohohohoh...soli........
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 20 2006, 12:23 AM)
this was wat i used during my 1st year wif my 1st car.. HERE!

that time was nearby rm1k.. now price drop liao.. it is a good 1 for beginner.. highly recomemded for ur tight budget but yet this speakers still performs well from ordinary rm400+/- speakers..
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Ohh..it looks quite nice.
Can u install for me FOC?

actually how to differentiate whether it is RCA cable or not??

how bout this AMP = HELIX ESPRIT H400 ? how much huh??
my fren using this ... unsure.gif unsure.gif
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crazy.. i am no installer..

find howiechoo.. acceptable work wif super reasonable price..

helix stuffs r costy.. but not sure how costy it is..
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HELIX ESPRIT H400 about RM2K+ ... It costy due to this amp slim loh...and sound also good!
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WAH!!!! so costy gah!!??

maybe i thought he bought it second hand bah...

okok...i PM howiechoo..he didnt reply.maybe he too busy with his business.
wah..so good if i know the knowledge everything..then do business too.
hehe... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

jbl cd12 woofer ok mah?
normally the front comp speakers how many inches de ?? 6.5" ?? unsure.gif
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normal size for the component's tweeter is 1" and mid is 6.5"..

it is best 2 take 6.5" cz it will produce more bassy sound..
there r also 4", 5.25", 5.5", 6" and 6.5"..
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So yours DSD216 is 6" , rite? i wan 6.5" ooh...
since u say sound better.

jbl cd12" woofer anyone got using it mah?
can provide picture n comment ?

ck6667,
go to seremban!!?? where oh? unless u're setting ICE for me lo..
purposely go there n see ur MAGNAT ICE..lazy lah. tongue.gif
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if u gt come n find ur relative,then juz view it laa....hahaaa...u saw my amp n woofer ady????
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wai..
u didnt post a link...how to see oh ??


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erm...use search machine...type MAGNAT...then ok alreay....i duno how 2 put link...haha
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My Webpage
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upload the link already...tq....
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Why you cant type all in same reply?
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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 20 2006, 07:45 PM)
Why you cant type all in same reply?
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probably wants to increase his post counts tongue.gif ....
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QUOTE(shocker @ Sep 20 2006, 11:25 PM)
probably wants to increase his post counts tongue.gif ....
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yeah... this is wat i think too.. ha! ha! it isn't ur webpage.. it's a thread.. u don own it.. LYN does.. smile.gif

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So yours DSD216 is 6" , rite? i wan 6.5" ooh...
since u say sound better.


i think it is a 6.5" o his did a mistake.. cz i remembered mine was this model also and it is 6.5".. btw.. 0.5" not much difference guah.. tongue.gif ??

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jbl cd12" woofer anyone got using it mah?
can provide picture n comment ?


how much r u left wif after deduct ur amp, components and workmanship? u got PM howiechoo for quotation? laugh.gif i think he went back hometown for holidayz.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 21 2006, 12:53 AM)
yeah... this is wat i think too.. ha! ha! it isn't ur webpage.. it's a thread.. u don own it.. LYN does..  smile.gif
i think it is a 6.5" o his did a mistake.. cz i remembered mine was this model also and it is 6.5".. btw.. 0.5" not much difference guah..  tongue.gif ??
how much r u left wif after deduct ur amp, components and workmanship? u got PM howiechoo for quotation?  laugh.gif i think he went back hometown for holidayz..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ooh?? like that oso can ah? sigh...maybe he forgot to type..then add on bah..

ooh...the budget given by howiechoo is ngam ngam hor... 1.5k

ish... doh.gif doh.gif wonder when he will come back neh?

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wah... this case arhh.. i dono larh..

tarc holz is for another 2-3 weeks time..
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ha!??

then zao "dai look gam cheong" lor...

so matt..
should i go for a 4awg cable ? or 8awg?
is it really big big different mah btw them ?


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u get better power wif 4gauge cable.. 8 gauge also boleh and i'm using it too.. for sure 4 gauge works better.. if u plan 2 put the amp below ur seat then 8awg is enough..

and wat amp r u planning 2 use? some of the chapalang amps onli support 8gauge if it is, then the installer need 2 make the 4 gauge cable 2 8 gauge..
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magnat bull power four 4channel AMP .

This is howiechoo recommend one.

where else amp can locate other than under the seat??? unsure.gif unsure.gif


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boot..some ppl don 1 any1 step on their amp..

he! he! smile.gif

what price he quote for the amp?
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i m here...not goind to enjoy my holiday...lolz....haobeck pm had been replied....
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ooo.. muz b a bad holZ then.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Oct 7 2006, 10:10 PM)
bro...how was ur ICE made???use magnat????????
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bro.. it is normal for forummers 2 come in and have a thread then runaway liao.. don realli haf any updates from 'em tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Oct 9 2006, 10:12 PM

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hahaa.....mayb la.....i juz wana knw he gt wat price......hahaaaa

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post Oct 9 2006, 10:37 PM

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ya lor.....waterfish by waterfish talker....
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:00 AM

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wat................
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:11 AM

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i smell bomb here.. shakehead.gif
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post Oct 10 2006, 12:48 AM

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It's great that people like you guys stick around to help out the noobs in ICE.

Two thumbs up!
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post Oct 10 2006, 01:08 PM

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Wai..soree lah...

not i runaway...suddenly lose budget mah..

my brother gonna marry....i've to support him!!!!
thats why i malu to reply here....coz no money..
til i got money..

im pretty sure i will come back!

I'll be Back!!! smile.gif
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post Oct 10 2006, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(howiechoo @ Oct 9 2006, 10:37 PM)
ya lor.....waterfish by waterfish talker....
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huh!? u mean im waterfish oso ah...
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post Oct 10 2006, 07:51 PM

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understood 1.. tongue.gif
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post Oct 10 2006, 10:05 PM

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nolaaa....then when u 1 buy,let use share ur decision

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post Oct 19 2006, 11:15 AM

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try lelong.

wat i got from there
a USamp 4 channel for rm250, low end but im really suprise by the sound
a pheonix gold 12max sub 200!! box cost me 150 n tat is edi xpensive.
a vandan plas 2x100w rms competition amp, they pump tat bass!! 280 i think
a electronic x-over, 3 way with band pass rm300, brand earthquake, diy burrbrown n all i can say is wow!

wat i get from jalan pasar, 1 pair of mids 175 i think, 1 pair of tweeters, guest wat, 20, lousy tweeter? guest again, it will smoked any component sets tweeter tat cost rm700, its smooth n not bright, the highs r high enof but not piercing! only thing is its big.

rm1,380 total, cabling, i use network cable.
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post Oct 19 2006, 12:10 PM

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post Oct 19 2006, 03:09 PM

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Simple.....go pudu jail
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post Oct 21 2006, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(haobeck @ Sep 20 2006, 11:32 AM)
Ohh..it looks quite nice.
Can u install for me FOC?

actually how to differentiate whether it is RCA cable or not??

how bout this AMP = HELIX ESPRIT H400 ? how much huh??
my fren using this ...  unsure.gif  unsure.gif
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I have the Helix Esprit H400 going for RM1800. Brand new.

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post Oct 25 2006, 11:28 AM

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got the user manual?
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post Nov 4 2006, 03:19 AM

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hhmm...
when see the topic...i suddenly got 1 question
since the budget is tight, can we use the stock HU
for example, satria neo
if just add front component set and 2 channel amp without change the HU, is it will better than the stock sound quality???
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post Nov 4 2006, 12:12 PM

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If budget tight..better save untill budget allow.
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post Nov 6 2006, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(oldfox @ Nov 4 2006, 03:19 AM)
hhmm...
when see the topic...i suddenly got 1 question
since the budget is tight, can we use the stock HU
for example, satria neo
if just add front component set and 2 channel amp without change the HU, is it will better than the stock sound quality???
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yes.. it do sound better than what u haf.. but i'm not sure that is the neo comes wif RCA out.. if it doesn't, do think of changing it..

u can still use the stock HU and the solution is the hi-lo converter.. not really recomended cz the sound quality will not b as g00d as wif RCA out..
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post Nov 9 2006, 08:46 PM

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but stock HU nt so good if compare wit other
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post Nov 9 2006, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Nov 9 2006, 08:46 PM)
but stock HU nt so good if compare wit other
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Have you ever try Chevrolet Optra 5 Stock HU? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 10 2006, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Nov 9 2006, 11:08 PM)
Have you ever try Chevrolet Optra 5 Stock HU? biggrin.gif
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wat is it arhh? sounds so hebat from u.. tongue.gif
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post Nov 10 2006, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Nov 10 2006, 08:47 AM)
wat is it arhh? sounds so hebat from u..  tongue.gif
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Because using Eclipse HU loh... when last time new release only la..now don't know loh
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