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TShaobeck
post Sep 15 2006, 04:38 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hi all masters here... notworthy.gif

I dono much of ICE stuffs.

All i know is 2 front speakers, 2 back speakers, 1 subwoofer, 1 amp..and HU.

I want a trustable, quality, durable n budget ICE.

Anyone can recommend? Plsssss.s.s.....

*I dont think i wanna install my HU ..coz im having KENWOOD mp3 player".
Really wish to know what specs should i go for... icon_question.gif notworthy.gif

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post Sep 16 2006, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(GRexer @ Sep 15 2006, 08:22 PM)
For your budget, get a decent(if you want better stuff, get used) 4-channel, a decent front component set, and also a subwoofer will do, skip the rear speakers, or if you want, stick wif your stocks powered by the HU.

But if your budget is 1.5k excluding install and cabling, you could work out a pretty decent setup.

For some example:
Front components: some decent 6.5" components like the PHD CF6.1(new for RM650-700)
Amp: Not too sure about this, but set aside at least half your budget for this(though i know some guy who has an Orion XTR450 for sale at about RM800)
Subwoofer: Some MTX or Kicker that works well with about 250Wrms and sealed box, i know some dude who's selling his Type-R Alpines for about RM300 each.

IMO, for audio setups, it'll only turn out nicely if you don't rush and slowly shop for good bargains(i don't call shopping from those lelong sites as bargains though, you'll never know when you actually bought authentic or fakies)
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ooh..i see...so how much for the installation fee normally?
i heard the cable oso quite important for setting an ICE.

But i really wan a durable n budget ICE..which makes me feel very nice listen love songs..no need to too strong..i think my pc ALTEC LANSING quality is better than my car ICE..if my ICE performance like my ALTEC LANSING oso enough lor..hehe.. biggrin.gif

yeah..1st i bought from Brother's ...it;s really sux !! all the crossover component sets are really upset me.no differencee after install.then the salesman called me to install amp only can feel.

ICE got so many many brands...which one should i go for ne ?

I wan a specification to review. + u all info given, i think the salesman wont easily CON me...really hope so. Coz im planning to build my ICE soon.


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post Sep 16 2006, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 16 2006, 11:37 AM)
i assume it's goinna b rm1.5k for 2 front speakers (4 channel amp, 2 back speakers (draw from HU), 1 sub (draw from the 4 channel amp), 1 sub box, 1 4xchannel amp and wirings...

so every1 think it's possible huh? wif the "i want trustable, quality, durable n budget ice" statement it is still possible??  icon_rolleyes.gif

to me trustable ICE would b branded stuffs edi.. rm800 for a reputable amp, rm300 for a normal woofer, rm80 woofer box (if ada), wiring and workmanship would b around rm 150 and the rest r for speakers... how much would u left?

unless he said rm1.5k for component + decent amplifier then may sound reasonable to me wif his statements of "trustable, quality, durable n budget".. in my mind no cheap stuff is good stuff  sweat.gif
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Ooh...i thought 1.5k at least can get a pretty decent ICE Setup.sigh..

Hmm...so brother mattchin, can u give me an idea ..
how to build up a 1.5k decent ICE setup mah?

im using wira...wira speakers quite good , rite?
So shud i go for AMP, woofer, and box...is that enuff lor?? unsure.gif

As im not that kind of person who opens the window and let ppl hear the music.
I wanna listen songs syok syok with myself n my Gf...hehe.. wub.gif
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post Sep 17 2006, 03:39 AM

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QUOTE(driftmeister @ Sep 17 2006, 12:45 AM)
i would say get a HU around 500+/-
get a decent comp and active sub around 800
the rest for installation and cabling
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Nope..i got a Kenwood MP3 HU...
so i jus plan on decent comp, amp..woofer..cabling.

Decent component consists of 2 front speakers..tweeters...crossover.
how bout the back one? have to chg?

im using wira currently n ppl told me not need to chg wira back speakers coz it's quite powerful though. hmm..... unsure.gif unsure.gif
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post Sep 17 2006, 03:53 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 17 2006, 03:06 AM)
ha! ha! i never know that i can listen song/radio inside the car cz my gf is  whistling.gif  whistling.gif

u should start urself wif and amplifier and a component speakers.. regarding speakers, wat types of music r u heading for? i mean pop, rock, r&b ...etc...

get a good amplifier.. do u mind using 2nd hand amplifier? cz wif a new normal amp u can go for a good 2nd hand amp..

hmmm.. i think rm1.5k for all 2nd hand items might gif u a decent 1.. (i assume u r sticking wif ur kenwood mp3 HU..)
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oh? ur gf singing or blah blah blah cant let u listen songs ? hehe..
funny!

actually i like any kind of songs.but mainly is my sound quality.
like jay chou songs? hmm...syok! no techno..hmm..or funky songs inside my car. smile.gif

my god!!! 1.5k for all 2nd hand items..ish.. doh.gif doh.gif
seems like i have to overtime more then only can post here.

i really thought 1.5k can get a good decent ICE.i mean for a beginner like me.

okie...if cable...what brand should i go for ? can request from the shopman?? unsure.gif
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post Sep 17 2006, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 17 2006, 03:45 AM)
u carry ppl around wif u? juz forget 'em.. u can't hear the back speakers.. connect it to the HU and hopefully that ur unit can switch them on or off whenever u like..
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so u mean i have to focus on the front comp ..amp...woofer...rite?

the stock wira front comp can cabut out lor?? unsure.gif
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post Sep 18 2006, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(loon1031 @ Sep 17 2006, 09:52 AM)
Take out the front stock speaker la...
If wira front speaker good ar, no one change speaker loh... doh.gif
If you have amp, the back stock can power up by HU.

You just focus on ;
Front component Spekaer,
2 channel amp(for front component) + mono amp( power up woofer) or 4 channel amp
1 12" woofer
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oh! got the idea!
now i fully focus on front comp.

anyway, can i put 4 channel amp for front comp.
and 4 channel amp for woofer ??

normally u all got two amps one mah ???
sorry ah..noob question hor ?? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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post Sep 18 2006, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 17 2006, 11:18 AM)
stock wira doesn't haf any front component speakers.. i recomend u 2 forget the back speakers unless u always bring ppl around wif ur car..

rm1.5k can start ur project liao.. by it's a step by step project.. it is better to do step by step rather than doing all @ 1 shot..  laugh.gif cz u don really enjoy the fun of ICE upgrading.. the satisfaction u'll get can't even mention by words (for me  tongue.gif )

now u focus on a set of component speakers and amp first.. woofer come later lar.. bcz u can c how much of budget r u left wif  cool.gif

regarding the cables.. u can use normal speaker cables and a good RCA cable from belden, monster, etc... budget them around rm200+ for 2metre o even cheaper if u can source it @ a cheaper price..
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Ok..brother mattchin!!

with 1.5k ..i think can get decent front comp set. amp. n woofer ,rite?
hmm..4get bout the back.coz i wan myself listen.not the "backside".haha!

so normally setting up ICE need how many metres RCA cable neh?
Sorry ah brother...how bout tweeter lor?? unsure.gif unsure.gif

today i went to an ICE shop..its brand is MAGNAT. the shop guy said it's made from Germany.So what do u think?? unsure.gif

FRONT COMP - ??
TWEETER - ??
AMP - ??
WOOFER - ??
SUBWOOFER - ??

(?? = Brand of those ICE stuffs ) Can name some suitable one mah??

Thanks ah ....sifus here!!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


To: cky6667
Then u do it by urself lor..u better get conned by them then. tongue.gif

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post Sep 18 2006, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 18 2006, 11:38 AM)
buy a 4 channel amp..

first 2 channel u use it to power ur front components
and the other 2 u use it to move ur woofer

start wif ur component first bcz it is more important than only come to ur amp.. the rest u left then onli plan for ur woofer..

try getting those components from the forum (garage sales- automotive section) o zth.. there r good quality components selling @ quite cheap price..

installation u can find our brother howiechoo.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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Okok...
so now i go 2 channel for 2 front comp set. did they include the tweeters as well??

2 channel for woofer...

can name spec for these stuffs mah? mattchin?
2 front comp set.
amp ...and woofer. coz i dono which one to go for.

HELIX ? MAGNAT ? or .... unsure.gif unsure.gif unsure.gif


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post Sep 18 2006, 11:12 PM

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so how jek ...loon gor??

place is not the problem la i think.
i wan the brand name only.

Any ppl complain bout MAGNAT b4?
speakers explode...or....??

so ...
2 channel for 2 front comp ..(which are 2 big speakers on the door, 2 tweeters, & 2 crossover??)

another 1 channel for woofer...

so left one more channel ...go where ler?


Ck6667, how much u install MAGNAT ?
the guy charge me 1.5k with full installation without HU.
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QUOTE(MangKoK^ayon @ Sep 18 2006, 11:07 PM)
go for pioneer HU...
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Im using Kenwood MP3 HU..but no USB one lah. tongue.gif
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post Sep 19 2006, 04:22 PM

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wah not bad...

don care bout how pretty it is ..
as long i know how the system goes..hmm..thanks !!! mattchin!! haha..


and one more left..which is subwoofer & woofer ? normally these 2 woofers stored where ??? have to take out the spare tyre one ah ?? unsure.gif unsure.gif

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post Sep 19 2006, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 19 2006, 01:12 PM)
u take how many woofer???u can go my thread to see izit the same woofer n amp......u can sms me 2 discuss....welcome....haha

0126196667
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1 only lor..i juz ask...

oh..haha..so bad u're not a gal...sure call u on the spot ..whahaa..jk~~

anyway..ur thread no pic to see geh?

may i know what's the different btw 2 ways & 3 ways comp set?

2 ways no MID AMP SPEAKER ah??? unsure.gif unsure.gif

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post Sep 19 2006, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(cky6667 @ Sep 19 2006, 05:02 PM)
hah???1 onli...then quite expensive......
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1 woofer lor? then how many u want?

got so many woofers inside car one meh?
soree ah.. i dono ...

what he told me 4 chnl amp....front comp...n back speakers.
all MAGNAT.

1.5 k ... then urs is how much neh??

wah..ur 1st page...where u buka new thread oh..
give me link..k ? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 11:25 PM)
the brother above u is selling magnat.. later he flames u onli then u know.. he! he! biggrin.gif
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no lah...say truly...no matter how ppl convince me to buy his stuff..

i don buy de lor..coz i don like to be a 2nd hand man mah..haha~~!

wai..mattchin...if u can draw details more..then so good ler..can edit back mah..
im really sorry..coz i dono the system...

suddenly i read got pre-amp lah....subwoofer lah....
WATT is count on AMP or SPEAKER ger jek ??

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post Sep 19 2006, 11:37 PM

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1.5 k without HU wor...

why ? very worthy meh?

he said made from germany.

actually all these stuffs got warranty or not ge jek ?? unsure.gif unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 19 2006, 11:49 PM)
pre-amp is for those ultra noobies.. so plz juz forget about it.. i've draw it very clear liao larhh.. i also dono where u don UN.. laugh.gif

if it is written on the speakers it means the power that needs to run at.. (normally it's maximum) u need 2 c how much ur components need 2 power for.. (normally around 50rms watt + -) (can i call rms the pure reading o watt) i

the amp itself also is also written how much rms watt it can produce.. so if it suits.. then it is.. bear in mind that those chapalang brand amps doesn't come wif any rms especially u c those 1000watt.. it might b onli p.m.p.o watt.. (juz j/k)
i dono this brand.. maybe other sifus can help u.. hey.. i thought u haf ur mp3 player?
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i don understand the subwoofer lor..woofer / subwoofer is what ne?? sad.gif
hehe..sorry ah..slow to catch up.hope u don mind.

so do u mean front comp set rms must more or less equal with amp rms?
rms is ??

then how many watts of amp n rms should i get ne?

yah..i got kenwood mp3 player...

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QUOTE(mattchin @ Sep 20 2006, 12:23 AM)
this was wat i used during my 1st year wif my 1st car.. HERE!

that time was nearby rm1k.. now price drop liao.. it is a good 1 for beginner.. highly recomemded for ur tight budget but yet this speakers still performs well from ordinary rm400+/- speakers..
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Ohh..it looks quite nice.
Can u install for me FOC?

actually how to differentiate whether it is RCA cable or not??

how bout this AMP = HELIX ESPRIT H400 ? how much huh??
my fren using this ... unsure.gif unsure.gif
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WAH!!!! so costy gah!!??

maybe i thought he bought it second hand bah...

okok...i PM howiechoo..he didnt reply.maybe he too busy with his business.
wah..so good if i know the knowledge everything..then do business too.
hehe... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

jbl cd12 woofer ok mah?
normally the front comp speakers how many inches de ?? 6.5" ?? unsure.gif
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So yours DSD216 is 6" , rite? i wan 6.5" ooh...
since u say sound better.

jbl cd12" woofer anyone got using it mah?
can provide picture n comment ?

ck6667,
go to seremban!!?? where oh? unless u're setting ICE for me lo..
purposely go there n see ur MAGNAT ICE..lazy lah. tongue.gif

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